Talk:Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories

There's something with the Bosses sectionTherequiembellishere 23:16, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Card images: Here's a site with the pictures of all the cards on it http://21v.free.fr/khcom/khcom/

RedemptionUltima - What IS he!?! No one's EVER worn the darkness the way that he does! It's impossible! TALK - See my illusion! The link no longer works. I'll take down the link in a week.

Boss section not needed

Why is the boss section included? It's pointless, at least, i think so.

Silly sentence

quote from article: "Deep Jungle didn't appear in this game as in the first Kingdom Hearts. Sora crash lands the ship and lands in the treehouse and it was an accidental memory so it never appeared in Castle Oblivion."

This doesn't make sense. Who said that accidental memories don't appear in castle oblivion? Remember when (in CoM) the three were talking about memories and Sora said something about donald hitting him when he was a heartless. That was accidental but they didn't forget. I think we should change this, correct me if i'm wrong. Morning Star 14:09, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

The real reason the Deep Jungle didn't appear was Disney and Square Enix had a hard time getting copyrights to use Tarzan related topics. Because when they came back and the maker is all like NO! they just left it out. They had an easier time getting The Nightmare Before Christmas copyrights.--PrincessAndie8thprincessofheart 20:31, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

HeartlessSlayer - You see, I want to help them because...because...well, they need us. TALK - *&&X% Deep Jungle has a big part in the series as any other disney world. The problem sometimes with situations like this is that a lot of people come up with romours trying to answer why it wasn't in CoM, either because of how they see the world themselves or just simply they hate the world, which is pretty juvenile. Its like saying The Pride Lands doesn't play a big role in KH2. Besides, if it would make you feel better, games like CoM and 358/2 Days are actually just tie ins for the series, they're not part of the main trilogy story. Its kinda like regarding the Clone Wars of the Star Wars series, you don't see it as part of the main movie series but you see it as it answers questions people will have after seeing the main events.

Wait so if it is a trilogy, there is KHI, KHII, and. . . ? Anyway What I said was what I heard on another website that was made by the creators of KH--PrincessAndie8thprincessofheart 21:04, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Kingdom hearts

Kingdom Hearts chain of memories

Kingdom hearts 2

TRI=3 --Zack fair 007 23:17, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Non, mon ami, there is bound to be a third episode to KH, because as Nomura himself says, I can see the end of KH coming. What it's called, or how it'll take place, is now unknown. Chain of Memories, BBS, Days and Coded serve as interludes to the trilogy, don't you think ? Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne

HeartlessSlayer - You see, I want to help them because...because...well, they need us. TALK - *&&X% Actually, the pattern I've been seeing is that BBS is the 3rd part of the trilogy. Think about it, what do the main 2 KH games have in common? They have a 3D intro, a song by Utada Hikaru, Gummi ship flights, and of course the final fight revolves around the main villain Xehanort. But the other hint are the secret videos at the end of the 2 KH games. Another Side is about KH2 around the theme of Organization XIII and Birth by Sleep shows the events of the great tragedy that started it all.

No, no, no... that is a prelude. Not the end of Sora's journey. We can't have Sora's story just hanging in the air like that after KHII, and we can't leave our anti-hero without his moment of redemption. There are some things even the stars cannot tell me. • TroisNyxÉtienne

HeartlessSlayer - You see, I want to help them because...because...well, they need us. TALK - *&&X% True, but right now we still don't know, but I think we'll just have to wait when BBS comes out and we beat it to get the next secret ending. For an unrelated topic, I remember seeing a fanart comic on DA where a guy was making a sequal of his own where Mickey needs Sora's, Donald and Goofy's help to defeat his greatest threat yet. MICHEAL EISNER!! Its good and funny if you ask me XD lol.

Hahahaha ! Wonderful. One of these days, when I've got less on my hands, you've gotta show it to me. ^_^ I'm as good as new! All my functions have been restored! • TroisNyxÉtienne

Order

In what order do the Organization members fall?? DiSlOcAtOr ChRiS 00:03, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Vexen, Larxene/Lexaeus, Marluxia, Zexion XienZo 01:32, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Card stats and info

Orpheus of the Lyre Let's Talk ! — Prepare to scream ! Sally, why didn't I listen to you? Hey guys please message back if I should do this I played RECOM and COM and I have a list of all the cards their descriptions ability duration and other such info I've made pages for all the Organization XIII cards but should I do articles for the other cards? tell me ^^ I can cite my sources on these cards if you need. i just don't have pics.

Multiplayer

Why isn't there a section about the multiplayer? In the info box it says that there is a link mode, but there isn't anything about it in the article. I didn't even know about a two player on CoM!--Hulon2 15:02, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Nitrous X Talk! — Then I shall make you see...That your hopes are nothing. Nothing but a mere illusion! Don't I even warrant a hello, Lexaeus? Yeah, I don't either. What's up with this Multiplayer stuff? I never new that you could do that with this game.

maggosh Strike backwards... — "That's a nice expression." You're terrified, aren't you? Well, apparently you could hook up two GBAs together and...fight, I guess.

RedemptionUltima - What IS he!?! No one's EVER worn the darkness the way that he does! It's impossible! TALK - See my illusion! You just duel, using the cards and sleights you have amassed over the game. Personally, I wouldn't advise this until you're 99 and have pretty good cards. It's boring, though. You unlock it after you have unlocked Riku's mode. If that doesn't work, beat it.

Xabryn - I don't care if you're real!You're not better! TALK - It's nice to have darkness on my side.{{{time}}} I've played it and Xienzo is right it is pretty boring.BTW i don't know if it is possible play with Riku could anyone tell me?

KHCOM and KHC

Kingdomzachdawg The truth is, Ansem, I just can't stand your foul stench. — 01:04, February 24, 2010 (UTC) OK guys look, about the whole trivia thing involving khcoded, the so called "random scribbles" can only be the page from coded. Lets not fight or anything, but i've watched the cutscene with jiminy finding that all his records are gone multiple times, and I see no scribbles. You know what I see? Lines. Just lines. The kind of lines where you would right something in a journal. So if you guys are seeing something that I'm not, tell me, 'cause I see no scribbles. Now, one more thing, why does that even need to be in the trivia section? It's totally pointless.

Needs to be in lead

"Also, I thought it would be interesting to use another “internet” word like in COM and Coded, and I wanted to make it be shortened as BBS (electronic bulletin board) which “connects” people. And I wanted to put the word “sleep” in the title as well, so it became “Birth by Sleep”."

Returning to fight Marluxia

Organization 13 - I'd rather we just skip the formalities. TALK - How I love a game! Does anyone know why after you defeat Marluxia in CoM you can't fight him again after the game ends? I thought it just did'nt do it in CoM but you can fight "Ansem" anytime you want in Reverse/Rebirth.

Worth a Mention?

Would mentioning any scrapped material in the trivia section be worth it? Examples:

• The earliest scans of Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories featured PS2 graphics.

• The Awakening, Deep Jungle and the End of the World were originally planned to be included.

--XYZ. 06:39, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

I would word it something like, "Early proposals for Chain of Memories had less mobile battles, like an early Final Fantasy game but with attacks decided by cards. These proposals used CGI graphics similar to the Playstation games, rather then the sprites used throughout the finished project, and planned on reusing all worlds form Kingdom Hearts, including the Awakening, Deep Jungle, and End of the World."Glorious CHAOS! 15:30, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

But not trivia, no. That's appropriate for a Design and Conception section.Glorious CHAOS! 15:30, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Kh:com vs. Kh:re:com

What is the difference between Chain of Memories, and RE Chain Of Memories?? User:Dbdbzdbgtwoo/sig2 22:23, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

One is for the Nintendo GBA, the other is for the PS2. One is 2D 256-bit sprites, the other is 100% 3D colored and rendered models. One was released with KH2FM, the other wasn't. Ay, dios mio! I might be late tomorrow. - Erry 00:27, November 30, 2010 (UTC)~

Japanese Box Cover

The Japanese Box Cover looks long, what do you think is in there?

Development

Should there be a development section? KRCCFNF is tired of being STEPPED ON. 17:17, 24 July 2011 (EDT)

Yes."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 00:47, 25 July 2011 (EDT)

Soras Story?

I'm asking myself, why are you using "Sora's Story" and "Reverse/Rebirth"? Why not the given "Journal" and "D Report" instead? Sum2k3 19:59, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

On this page, because those are what the actual journal entries are named. Or at least, was. I think they changed the name in Re:CoM, we need to check that.

On another note: for world/game journal entries, and the album pics in KHII, I have the idea for a template meant to actually look like Jiminy's Journal; so, there would be one journal entry per page, and you can turn the pages to get the next two. Album pics could open up the image for larger review on the pages. I'm not sure if this will work with common tabs we have now, but I'm pretty sure it can be done with the dynamic tabs I'm trying to get the coding for.

Note to Neumannz: DON'T LET ME FORGET THIS!"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 21:24, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Actually I meant this thing. so you named it like its entry in the journal, ok.
New template sounds great. Sum2k3 05:12, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

New question: What do the CoM, ReCoM, and 1.5 versions call Sora's story mode?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 09:55, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Missing characters

Mickey, Donald, Goofy, and Pluto are all missing from the characters section. I'd add them myself, but I'm not quite sure which world they'd go under.--Burgundy 22:37, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

KH:COM versus KHCOM

KeybladeSpyMaster - I do it for my family, my home, my friends! I do it for her! TALK - Welcome to Spy Force One. - 04:36 PM Fri, June 14, 2013 MST Possibly something trivial and not worth anything, but can anyone tell me why this article has a colon separating the "Kingdom Hearts" part from the "Chain of Memories" part of the title. None of the other games with spin off titles have this, and I haven't really seen it anywhere else but here. And is it worth correcting?

No, because it's not incorrect. It's the only game whose official title (besides the Re: games) includes that colon."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 23:57, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

KeybladeSpyMaster - I do it for my family, my home, my friends! I do it for her! TALK - Welcome to Spy Force One. - 05:43 PM Fri, June 14, 2013 MST But where does it say that this is the official title. Because there's no colon on the logo, and the website doesn't have it there either, not even the Japanese site.

As you can see...yes it does. maggosh 03:33, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

I'd sooner accept printed materials. For instance, the US manual uses "KINGDOM HEARTS CHAIN OF MEMORIES" (Link Features, p.25, BradyGames ad, p.31), and the US Days manual does not title it with a colon (rather, "KINGDOM HEARTS CHAIN OF MEMORIES" as a header with the subtitle in smaller font). Further, http://www.square-enix.co.jp/kingdom/khcom/index.html uses ALL-CAPS and no colon. If anything, the colon is an anomaly, so far only seen in few of multitude renditions of SQEX websites. If anything, it's the capitalization I might waver on, since "CHAIN OF MEMORIES", while official by the logo and media, has also been seen in regular capitalization, even so recently as in KH3D (which in the same screen lists Re:coded rather than coded). However, I would insist that initialisms be "KHCOM" rather than "KH:COM" or "KH:CoM", especially as the latter only applies to Re:CoM, as seen here: http://www.square-enix.co.jp/kingdom/kh2fm/index.html -- note that this also displays "KINGDOM HEARTS II Final Mix", as part of the "KINGDOM HEARTS II FINAL MIX+" package, whereas the English release of that game renders it with "FINAL MIX" in ALL-CAPS, despite its very logo using normal capitalization [EDIT: To its credit, though, the JP 2.5 page uses this discrepancy, too: http://www.square-enix.co.jp/kingdom/khhd2/#kh2]. To flit back to initialisms, it's bizarre how often I've been "BBS" and "Re:Coded"/"Re: Coded", yet "CoM" instead of "COM".

I can't find the naming of chain of memories at those links, but fine, do the thing."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 02:16, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

tl;dr - If we're gonna play by SQEX's wonky rules, let's try to get within the same sporting field? TJF588 (talk) 05:47, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

And to add: The 2.5 sites' 1.5 comic uses "KH", "KHCOM", and "KHDays" for the respective titles: (JP), (US)

Why not just use whatever name is in 3D? I don't see why we're mincing details with the mmanuals for other games."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 14:11, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

I haven't played 3D, but I believe it's just labeled by subtitle, not the whole game title ("Chain of Memories" instead of "Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories" or "Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories"). However, the HD 1.5 ReMIX website, HD 2.5 ReMIX website, and Dream Drop Distance website title the game without a colon (Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories). I still believe, like I did almost two years ago when I first opened the subject, that the actual title is "Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories" (without a colon), and the colon is a fluke of a few locations. It does appear that the title without a colon appears more often than the title with a colon. KeybladeSpyMaster 17:36, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

I've got no opposition to this, then."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 04:54, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

So, we doing it?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 15:34, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

bump. ANX219 21:49, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

It has been moved already... TheSilentHero 22:03, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

I was bumping it because it still has the colon on the main page and nav box. I'll fix it. ANX219 23:13, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

I think almost all pages still use the colon. It's too much to change by hand, so we'll probably have to use the bot. TheSilentHero 11:14, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Timeline

Isn't Chain of Memories now the fourth game in the timelime with the addition of X and Unchained X? There are some things even the stars cannot tell me. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 20:28, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

TheFifteenthMember Yes. You're creepy. I can't say we'll miss you while you're gone, so it'd be best if you did go. We all win that way. — TheFifteenthMember 20:29, 30 August 2015 (UTC) Yeah.

TheSilentHero — 20:37, 30 August 2015 (UTC) Days starts before COM, so wouldn't that make it the fifth?

Days and COM are a bit of a strange pair; Days not only starts before COM, but also ends with the start of KHII. Urrrgh... Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 20:53, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

TheFifteenthMember I like white. I find it goes well with yellow, but only if you want it to. — TheFifteenthMember 20:58, 30 August 2015 (UTC) Putting technicalities aside, I would say that Days comes after since most of Days takes place after CoM. I don't know if it's a good idea to generalise like that though.

NinjaSheik - All of this might have started with a lie...But I'm really am glad that I could meet you... TALK - One day, the light-it will be ours, and it will bring us together. Til then, I'll be in your heart... Well, when Days started, Marluxia and the others were still going missions before being sent to C.O, so I'm leaning CoM towards more that being the fifth game. It's tricky since both games overlapped with one another in events, but technically, Days would go first and then CoM.

Eternal Nothingness XIII Why is it that you always have to glare at me like that? — 03:26, 31 August 2015 (UTC) When in doubt, refer to Square's timeline from E3 :D It considers CoM to be the fifth game, even though Days takes place both before and after it.

NinjaSheik - All of this might have started with a lie...But I'm really am glad that I could meet you... TALK - One day, the light-it will be ours, and it will bring us together. Til then, I'll be in your heart... Fifth it is, then! :) Everyone good with that?

I'm agreed. TheFifteenthMember 22:51, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Journal entries

Can we figure out a way to present these more nicely? We should also be adding these to the worlds and other games, along with those screenshots they started using from kh2 onward."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 12:44, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

A journal tab in the infobox, maybe? TheSilentHero 13:37, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

I was thinking either that, or a collapsible, navbox-width version of the character journal tab, to go at the beginning of each game's synopsis section."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 20:45, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Journal entries

Sora's story

Sora's Tale I

Our friends may be here...

It was that thought that led us to Castle Oblivion, where cards rule over all.

A mysterious man gave Sora a card, using it to took us to Traverse Town--of all places!

It turned out the town was just a figment of our own remembrances, the first world of many that lie in Sora's heart.

And so our journey through these worlds begins.

Sora's Tale II

It seems we're slowly losing our memories of what happened before the castle. And all my notes about the last journey have vanished!

But in exchange, Sora is remembering other things he must have forgotten until now--like a girl he knew when he was little.

While fighting Larxene, Sora finally remembered the girl's name...

Naminé.

Sora's Tale III

Sora pressed on in his search for Naminé, and can you believe it? He found Riku, his best friend whom we thought was lost.

Sora was so happy, but Riku attacked him just like that, saying, "I'll protect Naminé!"

What could he mean? Will something happen if Sora finds Naminé?

Sora is chasing after Riku...and the answers.

Reverse/Rebirth

Riku's Tale I

Bored with his secluded island life, Riku dreamt of seeing other worlds.
He got his wish when darkness devoured Destiny Islands and he was thrust into the outside world.
While looking for his lost friend Kairi, he met Maleficent, and accepted her help.
But Maleficent had her eyes on Riku's strength and was working to make him her underling. She gave Riku the power of darkness, but as he used it, it gained power over him.
This is why Riku fought his best friend, Sora, and how his heart fell to Ansem, pursuer of darkness.
But Riku was freed by Sora's light. Riku, Sora, and the king worked together to close the door to darkness, but Riku was trapped inside, in the realm of darkness.
Will he see the realm of light again?

Riku's Tale II

Led by a mysterious voice, Riku made his way through the card-worlds, but met only dark beings within.
Riku was told that because he rejected the other things in his life to claim darkness, his heart is now devoid of anything but the darkness he sought.
Unable to accept this, Riku encountered Ansem, who tried yet again to conquer him.
The king intervened to save Riku, but Ansem had not let go of his heart.
And so Riku must fight the darkness within.

Riku's Tale III

Embattled with the darkness in his heart, Riku met someone who looked just like him, a replica crafted by Vexen, a member of the Organization.
The replica commanded darkness freely, and called Riku cowardly for shunning the dark.
Meanwhile, agents of the Organization laid their rivalry bare. Sora and Riku seem to be the reason they control the castle—but why?

Riku's Tale IV

Vexen took his replica of Riku and headed for the surface, but finally fell at Sora's hands.
Lexaeus confronted Riku, intending to bring him to submission using all force necessary.
It was then that the powerful darkness in Riku's heart awakened. The darkness defeated Lexaeus, then dragged Riku into the realm of darkness.
There, Ansem's shadow loomed large, but Riku was again saved by the king's light.