Talk:Prize Pod

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These videos and the information they contain need to be incorporated into the article. I'm gonna revise the article anyways as I go through Project BBS, but I'm not quite sure where to put everything.

<youtube>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MxPzrRxkPI&feature=related</youtube> <youtube>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeb_jd2f2q4&feature=related</youtube>

Thank you. If someone would take the liberty of going through the article and adding information where applicable, I'll go in later when I conquer the Unversed articles and make sure everything's 100%

In Ven's for the Deep Space, it must be the enemy set with the Yellow Mustard. Another Combonation of enemies includes Tank Toppers, and they screw it up

What are you talking about?LapisLazuliScarab21:18, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

Sometimes when you pop into the Durgon Transporter with Ventus, you get a group of Unversed with Tank toppers. If the Tank Toppers show up, then the Prize Pods won't. I forgot to sign it last time, sorry Hyperwre_2.0 17:20, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

DraftEdit

Is this ready to be posted on the page? TheFifteenth Member 19:55, 3 October 2015 (UTC)c

World	Character	Area	Spawn Trigger	Ingredients
Dwarf Woodlands	Terra	Underground Waterway	Spawn point on top of a waterfall near the exit to the Courtyard.	Apple Pie Gaspberry Merry Mint^{[KH BbS FM]} Merry Dairy Nutty Nut Peach Fantasy
	Ventus	The Mine	Lit area far on the right. Defeat the Monotruckers and Red Hot Chilis.
	Aqua	Flower Glade	Area to the left of the path from the Courtyard.
Enchanted Dominion	Terra	Waterside	Near the wall of fire at the northernmost part.	Bijou Bean Cherryberry Forest Muffin Jumbo Almond Rose Honey Sky Blue Mousse
	Ventus	Audience Chamber	Columned area to the left of the entrance. If Red Hot Chilis appear, leave the area and return.
	Aqua	Waterside	After exiting the Forest Clearing, in the corner of the cliff on the left side.
Castle of Dreams	Terra	Palace Courtyard	Go over to the fountain in the center and defeat four Red Hot Chilis. If another four appear, exit the area and come back.	Birthday Cake Chocolate Valentine Crystal Soda Crystal Sugar Rich Marshmallow^{[KH BbS FM]} Wedding Cake
	Ventus	Mousehole	Far end of the area accessible through the hole on top of the end table with a clock in the Wardrobe Room.
	Aqua	Foyer	Underneath the stairs on the left side. If you don't encounter a single Bruiser beforehand, re-enter the area until it appears.
Radiant Garden	All	Fountain Court	Defeat four Blue Sea Salts in the recess adjacent to the stairs. If Red Hot Chilis appear instead, leave the area and come back.	Moogle Coffee Nebula Nectar Rocket Soda Soy Milk
Disney Town	Terra	Raceway	Defeat four Blue Sea Salts in the blue walled roof across from the exit of Pete's Rec Room, only accessible via Air Sliding. If a Chrono Twister appears, leave the area and come back.	Melodious Grape^{[KH BbS FM]} Prickle Pepper Toonbasco
	Ventus	Raceway	Roof leading from the exit to Pete's Rec Room. Defeat four Blue Sea Salts. If none appear, leave the area and come back.
	Aqua	Raceway	After exiting the Raceway Registration, immediately to your left against the wall with the hidden Mickeys. Must defeat a few Blue Sea Salts beforehand.
Olympus Coliseum	All	Town Near Thebes	Southeast corner. If only Red Hot Chilis appear, or none appear at all, leave the area and come back until Red Hot Chilis and Prize Pots appear together.	Cotton Cloudcandy Heroic Orange Nutty Nut Thundercracker
Deep Space	Terra, Aqua	Turo Prison Block	Far end of the hall	Balloon Melon Bizarro Bean Cream Fluff Galactic Caramel Fizzy Tizzy Star Syrup
Deep Space	Ventus	Durgon Transporter	In the airlock leading to the Ship Exterior. Defeat the first wave of enemies that appear in the room, after which the Prize Pods will appear. If a second wave of enemies appears instead, exit and re-enter the room and try again.
Neverland	Terra	Skull Rock: Entrance	Small cliff accessible via Air Slide from Skull Rock: Cavern. If Jellyshades and a Triple Wrecker appear, leave the area and come back.	Dancin' Lemon Golden Jam Honeybunch Mermaid Salt Rainbow Syrup Whipped Dream
	Ventus	Mermaid Lagoon	On the ledge accessible from the Cliff Path. A Wild Bruiser will appear alone first, followed by the Prize Pods and four Yellow Mustards. If the Wild Bruiser and Yellow Mustards appear together, exit the area and re-enter.
	Aqua	Indian Camp	Far end of the area. Appears alongside a Wild Bruiser.
Mirage Arena	All	Risky Riches	Eight Prize Pods appear in the second-to-last wave of Round Three.	Dancin' Lemon Open Sesame^{[KH BbS FM]}
Mirage Arena	All	Treasure Tussle	Prize Pods spawn on the third wave of Round Three and appear on both platforms.	Open Sesame Starry Sky Delight^{[KH BbS FM]}

It has a lot of empty space that we should trim first, and the characters should have br instead of commas. I am somewhat confused though, what is the intent of this version compared to the previous? Is it to replace the images for readers whose computers won't load them? If so, would it be possible to do both image and word (for world at least) to try and fill some of the blank space?

Also, why are we putting the ingredient nihongo on this page instead of the Ice Cream page?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 15:27, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

I wanted to remove the images. Adding world icons could make this table look prettier, I agree. I put the ingredient nihongo (and icons) here because if we're removing the locations from the Ice Cream page, it'd make more sense to redirect the ingredients here, where most of the information is kept. I assume most readers search for an ingredient name because they're missing it as part of a recipe and want to see where it is; if they're redirected to the Ice Cream page, they'll only see what recipe their ingredient belongs to, which would be useless knowledge to them. TheFifteenth Member 15:37, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Wouldn't it make more sense to put this table on the Ice Cream page, then? TheSilent Hero 17:17, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Locations of this manner basically serve as a strategy section for the Prize Pods, so they make sense here, but that also means the table is fairly packed. Aesthetically, I think it would look nicer to have the ingredient nihongo on that page, and have this one focus on where to find the Prize Pods that drop them. It would leave both tables less cluttered than repeating the same info in both places."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 12:39, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

So which article would the ingredients redirect to? The locations should be on that page. I have no problem with this table being on the Ice Cream page and this strategy section linking to that page. TheFifteenth Member 18:27, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Maybe we could make a "List of Ice Cream Ingredients" page and put it on there. TheSilent Hero 22:21, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

We can put the world on the ingredients/ice cream page, I guess."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 05:05, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Why can't all the information (nihongos, worlds, specific locations within the world) be all in one place rather than scattered across pages? TheFifteenth Member 16:45, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

It's not all part of the same information. Some of that is information for the Prize Pods (specific locations), some of that is info for the Ice Cream (nihongo and world). Trying to combine that all into one page would mean bloating this page with information on the Ice Creams; trying to put too much information about items on an enemy page already makes it difficult to organize and categorize, and that kind of thing doesn't really work too well if you have to start making tables (we do the Mushrooms because you can handle those with quick, simple prose). There's no real need to create a third page if we already have the Ice Cream page, so it makes the most sense to have the walkthrough portion on how to hunt Prize Pods on this page (it's not like the way you hunt them depends on the ingredients at all, you just get that world's set of ingredients at random no matter what), and all the item data on an item page.

Mostly, though, I think the table looks a bit cramped having the nihongo and strategy paragraph at the same time."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 12:44, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

My gripe is when you search for an ingredient, you're redirected to the Ice Cream page which doesn't describe its location in detail and doesn't guide the reader on where to find that information. In my playthrough, I had an issue where I was missing a few ingredients (since I never hammered the Prize Pods enough) and needed to find the Prize Pod location via ingredient rather than world. We can't expect readers to know the layout of our wiki in order to find information, so I think we should put a "see also" template at the top of the section. TheFifteenth Member 18:33, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Ooooooooh, that makes sense. What if we got rid of the world column on the ice cream article, and instead turned the ingredient names into anchored links to this article, so that you can click on the ingredient there to find where the prize pod is here?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 14:25, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Does the table still look cramped? TheFifteenth Member 18:35, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

One thing I definitely wanted to get changed was splitting the ingredient list by character. Would it be possible to revise the table to a multi-cell entry format, similar to World Cards, where instead of three columns for character, location, and ingredients, we had one cell with something like:

World	Location
Dwarf Woodlands	Terra — Underground Waterway On top of the waterfall near the exit to the Courtyard. Gaspberry, Merry Mint^{[KH BbS FM]}, Nutty Nut
	Ventus — The Mine Lit, eastern[?] side of room, after defeating Monotruckers and Red Hot Chilis. Apple Pie, Merry Mint^{[KH BbS FM]}, Merry Dairy
	Aqua — Flower Glade West[?] of the path to the Courtyard. Gaspberry, Merry Mint^{[KH BbS FM]}, Peach Fantasy

This would make it easier to tell whether you have gotten all the ingredients from a world for the character you are playing as, and reduce having to hop back and forth between pages. Also, reduces the cramp just a little bit more."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 19:18, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

The ingredients of a world are different for each character? Do we have a list of all these somewhere? TheFifteenth Member 20:53, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

I'm guessing the ingredients for the Ice Cream that activate the exclusive Command Styles are character-exclusive as well. If you want, I can give you the full list of ingredients by character tomorrow. TheSilent Hero 22:05, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Here it is:

Terra

DW: Gaspberry, Nutty Nut
CoD: Birthday Cake, Crystal Sugar
ED: Bijou Bean, Rose Honey
RG: Nebula Nectar, Rocket Soda, Soy Milk
DT: Prickle Pepper, Toonbasco
OC: Nutty Nut, Thundercracker
DS: Bizarro Bean, Galactic Caramel
NL: Dancing Lemon, Golden Jam, Whipped Dream
MA: Dancing Lemon, Open Sesame

Ventus

DW: Apple Pie, Merry Dairy
CoD: Chocolate Valentine, Wedding Cake
ED: Cherryberry, Forest Muffin, Jumbo Almond
RG: Moogle Coffee, Rocket Soda, Soy Milk
DT: Prickle Pepper, Toonbasco
OC: Cotton Cloudcandy, Thundercracker
DS: Cream Fluff, Star Syrup
NL: Dancing Lemon, Honeybunch, Rainbow Syrup
MA: Dancing Lemon, Open Sesame

Aqua

DW: Gaspberry, Peach Fantasy
CoD: Birthday Cake, Crystal Soda
ED: Rose Honey, Sky Blue Mousse
RG: Nebula Nectar, Rocket Soda, Soy Milk
DT: Prickle Pepper, Toonbasco
OC: Cotton Cloudcandy, Heroic Orange, Thundercracker
DS: Balloon Melon, Cream Fluff, Fizzy Tizzy
NL: Dancing Lemon, Mermaid Salt, Rainbow Syrup
MA: Dancing Lemon, Open Sesame

These are taken from the BBS BradyGames guide. FM ingredients are missing, though. TheSilent Hero 18:25, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Everyone has the same FM ingredients in every world (there's only one, shared, new Ice Cream), so that can just be copied from the existing table."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 19:40, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Is it readable the way I depicted it, with the name, then strategy, then ingredients? Should the strategy perhaps be moved into a separate column to the right, with the hard stats in their own column to the left (still in one cell)?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 19:50, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

World	Location
Dwarf Woodlands	Terra — Underground Waterway Gaspberry, Merry Mint^{[KH BbS FM]}, Nutty Nut	On top of the waterfall near the exit to the Courtyard.
	Ventus — The Mine Apple Pie, Merry Mint^{[KH BbS FM]}, Merry Dairy	Lit, eastern[?] side of room, after defeating Monotruckers and Red Hot Chilis.
	Aqua — Flower Glade Gaspberry, Merry Mint^{[KH BbS FM]}, Peach Fantasy	West[?] of the path to the Courtyard.