We need someone to go through and make sure every enemy article has a design section, which should cover the appearance of the enemy, and the etymology of its name.
What LS did at Shadow looks perfect to me. Does anyone else have any comments or critiques?GloriousCHAOS! 03:42, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
It works for me; short and simple but detailed. Just bear in mind some etymologies may will get much more complicated. And I assume if the Japanese version of the name is different, it would be appropriate to comment on that name as well? BebopKate 03:47, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
I've gone ahead and split this one off into it's own forum thread so we don't clog this one with organizational bits and pieces. BebopKate 02:50, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...02:49, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
Alright, guys. Since we have quite a few volunteers for this project, I thought I'd just go ahead and pull it out of here and make a new topic for it. As a reminder of what we're doing ...
We need someone to go through and make sure every enemy article has a design section, which should cover the appearance of the enemy, and the etymology of its name. (DESIGN)
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...02:49, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
I'm thinking, similar to other similar projects, we need to make a list of who's doing what. I have a couple of ideas of how we can divide this up to make it easier for everyone:
1. Enemies by World - There's going to be a bit of overlap here, since some critters appear in more than one area, but there are also quite a few unique to their areas, enough that dividing it this way is not going to confuse everyone greatly.
2. Enemies by Game - So far, that would be Kingdom Hearts, Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories, et. al. My only concern is some people might feel a bit overwhelmed, unless a couple of us tackled each game at a time.
3. Enemies by Type - We have a few established Heartless-types, the black mage-esque ones being perhaps the most prominent. If someone wanted to snag all the Shadow-types, Soldier-types, etc, that could work.
4. A couple work on etymology, the others work on description - Just another idea to split the load.
So, my designing women friends, any input?
I tend to be kind of haphazard in selecting the sections, and I already finished several that I haven't put up here yet. The ones I've finished so far are the Darkball, Gigas Shadow, Mega-Shadow, White Mushroom, Black Fungus, Rare Truffle, Pink Agaricus, Black Ballade, and Blue Rhapsody. Other than those, which I'll get up either today or tomorrow, I can take the Kingdom Hearts II Heartless if we orgnanize it by game. Though any way we organize it is fine with me. EDIT:'Kay, got those guys up.
LapisScarab Good tidings, friends. Today is a momentous day. I am pleased to announce that a new comrade has been chosen to wear the coat.— 02:57, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
Hey- I'll volunteer for enemies by type and etemology. The Inexistent 20:48, May 18, 2010 (UTC)The Inexistent
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...23:07, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
Sounds like a good start. Lapis, if you'll take the KH2 Heartless, I'll snag the ones from the original game. That leaves CoM & Re:CoM (the few that exist), 358/2 Days, and the Final Mix+ from the appropriate games.
Inexistent, do you want to tackle any specific types to start with? Just realize there's probably going to be some overlap here and there. And also, if anyone is unsure of a etymology or having issues with a description, feel free to tag another project member, of course!
KrytenKoro - "That's when we bumped into Hannity. Sean Hannity. See the thing about this dude is, at first he's fair, right? And you're like "Wow!" But then BOOM. The dude's balanced, too. And you're like, HOLY SHIT." TALK -
For etymologies to wikipedia or final fantasy, please remember to use the interwiki linking code (Ex. [[finalfantasy:article|article]]).
Just a quick suggestion about our progress section. I think it would be easier to organize it by the game the enemy was introduced in. That way, we won't be repeating a lot of the Heartless' names, and we can checkthem easily by looking at the Heartless navigation box.LapisLazuliScarab03:50, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
You make a valid point. Sounds like a plan then. ^_^ BebopKate 04:18, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
Hey, I'd like to volunteer for filling in the etymology sections. Is what I did at Aquatank okay? Dan - A FO BEN, BID BONT. 09:27, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
LapisScarabEmbrace... nothing!— 04:16, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
Be sure to put your signature on the sign-up above, No.1xemnas, and let us know what you want to help with! By the way, The Graveyard and Toy Soldier are giving me a little trouble. I can't tell where the Heartless emblem is on the Graveyard, and I don't remember in detail what the two of them looked in their alternate forms. If anyone could get images of the alternate forms and put them in the gallery, that would be great. I'll save them for last, and if we don't get images, I'll just check KHII.
Dan - My friends are my power! — 11:23, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
I have some images that should clear the confusion (sorry for the horrible quality):
Graveyard front view: [1] (That's a raven on the top, it got cut out, sorry ^_^)
The Toy Soldier has the same Jack-o-lantern as the Graveyard: [3]
LapisScarab - Very good. You don't miss a thing. I cannot feel sorrow... No matter what misery befalls the worlds. No matter what you think, what you feel, or how you exist. TALK - Come closer...
Thanks, and the quality is fine!
LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
I'm noticing that Heartless have a lot of common traits, despite how different they seem to look. Spherical heads that are usually dark-colored, yellow, circular eyes, jagged mouths, and some kind of curled antenna or horn. Just something I noticed. And on more constructive terms, does the Bolt Tower have a different Final Mix coloration?
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...05:50, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
Indeed, I've noticed that as well as I've been writing descriptions; in spite of the fact they can look so dissimilar at first glance, they still have a unified appearance because of those little traits. Even ones without these immediately apparent will have them hidden somewhere; I'm particularly fond of the zig-zag filament in the Angel Star, for example, since it mirrors the standard Heartless jaw.
Come to think of it, the only ones with out the pointy jaws are the Mushrooms. I'm sure that's not by accident.
Okay, finished the KHII enemies. I think I'll finish up the magic uing Heartless (Red Nocturne, etc.), and then I guess I'll move on to Days Heartless.
LapisScarab Good tidings, friends. Today is a momentous day. I am pleased to announce that a new comrade has been chosen to wear the coat.— 03:29, May 27, 2010 (UTC)
LapisScarabEmbrace... nothing!— 02:05, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
Something's just occurred to me. Should we make a design section for the Gummi ship enemies as well? We have pictures for most, if not all, of the KHII ones (albeit not all of them are great). Though we don't even have articles for the KHI enemies...
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...22:03, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
Ooo, good thought, Lapis. I'll give them their own sections...
LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
Looking closer, I seem to have been grossly mistaken with the images. The U.F.O., Reaper's Wheel, Ring Tank, Hunter, Driller, Crawler, Cannon Ball, and Black Ghost all have decent images. The Core, Dragonfly, Grappler, Hunter X, Knight Head, and Mad Rider all need better ones. All others simply don't have images. Not to mention the fact that the KHI Gummi Enemies don't even have articles. I still think they should have design sections but it's looking like this is a project in its own right.
FinalMix+ - "The X-Blade is created from our hearts!"
"If you destroy it, you'll be destroying your own heart!"
To whom it may concern, I accidentally put my name under the design section when I wanted to sign up for the strategy part. I have already removed my name from this section. If anyone expected me to work on design, I sincerely apologise.
'Tis fine, FinalMix+. We have a good group together as it is.LapisLazuliScarab06:14, June 1, 2010 (UTC)
Wait, are Unversed out of the picture until the official English release? I already did the Appearance of the Cursed Carriage. I don't mean to sound like a noob or anything.
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...22:27, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, we really should wait on the Unversed until September; there will be name changes, and might be slight appearance changes between versions, like what happened with the Undead Pirates.
However, I'm not going to criticize work already done. ^_^
Ah, I see. Well how's about this; I work on whichever ones I can for now, and go back and edit them come September. Unless, that is a problem of course. I have no problem backing off if it causes trouble for the site or staff.
Dan - Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase! ♫ — 20:29, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
About the Artful Flyer, Sky Grappler, Air Battler and Aerial Master's names being references to academic degrees, the only thing I can find so far is the "Master's degree"... I don't really think it's enough for an etymology...
In Japanese, they are the "Air Butler", "Aerial Master", and "Flying Arts" (grappler is it's own thing).
Oh, wait. "Butler" isn't an alternative name for Bachelor's like I thought it was. Never mind.GloriousCHAOS! 02:51, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
LapisScarabEmbrace... nothing!— 15:37, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
I think the Dustflier's name may be a reference to meteors, because of its meteor breath, which would make its Japanese name "Debrisflow" make more sensede, but I'm not too sure.
I do believe I finished the Days Heartless (minus a couple of etymologies). Think now I'll go back and get the Final Mix appearances for the KHII Heartless that ShardofTruth uploaded. What should I do after that?
LapisScarab Good tidings, friends. Today is a momentous day. I am pleased to announce that a new comrade has been chosen to wear the coat.— 05:32, June 11, 2010 (UTC)
Dan - Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase! ♫ — 20:57, June 11, 2010 (UTC)
I have a bit of spare time now, as I only have a couple of exams left, so over the next few days, I'll be combing through etymologies. Oh, and if anyone notices a Heartless that has a Design section, but is lacking an etymology, could you please add " - needs etymology" next to its name on the list? Thanks! =D
Um. Some of the etymologies, especially the KHIIFM ones, need quite a bit of editing.GloriousCHAOS! 01:55, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
I've scanned through most of the etymologies, and I've reworded a few. Are there any other ones that need doing? Dan - GWNEWCH Y PETHAU BYCHAIN MEWN BYWYD. 09:35, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
The Inexistent - Pitiful users, mindlessly collecting information. The rage of an edit releases this knowledge, and they all come together, to form: The Wiki!!! TALK - And on the Wiki these words appear: "My name is The_Inexistent, user of users: Look upon my edits, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Wow, are we, like, done? Now what, do we wait to do the Unversed?
LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
I still have the remaining Final Mix and Boss Heartless to do, but those should be finished by tomorrow at the latest.
KrytenKoro - "Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day. But set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life." TALK -
Please remember to be covering the Japanese names in the etymologies.
Just a couple of etymologies left. Also, could someone else get the World of Chaos's description?
LapisScarab Good tidings, friends. Today is a momentous day. I am pleased to announce that a new comrade has been chosen to wear the coat.— 03:06, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
By the way, I'm prepariing descriptions for Unversed for when we start on them, so once BBS comes out we can get started again quickly.
Status Update
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...20:38, June 11, 2010 (UTC)
Okay, the way things appear to me:
Kingdom Hearts: Basic enemy descriptions done, some bosses need filling in, some etymology needed.
CoM/Re:CoM: Done.
Kingdom Hearts II: Done.
Final Mixes: Kingdom Hearts II descriptions done, some etymology needed. Kingdom Heart descriptions partially done, some etymology needed.
358/2 Days: Descriptions done, some etymology needed.
Gummy Enemies and Birth by Sleep: On hold due to lack of info.
It really doesn't look like there's much more to go here. So if someone would like to fill in the missing stuff this weekend or in the upcoming week, we should have this all wrapped up! Great work, guys! ^_^
LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
Just as an update, I have descriptions prepared for all of the Unversed except for the Trinity Armor. As for the Sneak Army, go for it, GrandUnversed.
LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
So from what I can tell, the only non-Unversed and non-Gummi enemies we have left are the Sneak Army and the World of Chaos. Are we missing any others?
Dan - Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase! ♫ — 14:05, June 25, 2010 (UTC)
I think so, and I promise I'll finish the etymologies as soon as my exams finish! ^_^
LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
Went and got the descritpion for the Sneak Army, improved the one for the Trickmaster, and started the one for the World of Chaos. None of 'em have etymologies. If someone wants to finish up the World of Chaos, be my guest, it's still missing the description of the battleship as a whole.
Dan - Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase! ♫ — 20:03, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
I'm very, very, very, very, very sorry for delaying these etymologies for so long, I'll start on them now. Oh, and the Wyvern is lacking a proper design section.
KrytenKoro - "An education was a bit like a communicable sexual disease. It made you unsuitable for a lot of jobs and then you had the urge to pass it on." TALK -
I found the japanese name for the KH2 gummi ships, so those etymologies should be relooked at. Thanks!
LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
On the subject of the Unversed, unregistered contributors and other users are adding descriptions to them anyway, so maybe we should just get those out of the way. We can hold off on etymologies in anticipation of name changes, but the physical description of the enemies probably won't change much. Thoughts? EDIT:Okay, been I while since I brought this up. No opposition to me putting up the Unversed descriptions?
LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
All Unversed now have descriptions up, including Vanitas's Sentiment. Most lack etymologies, which I suppose we'll wait on.
So, I believe our progress as it stands now is:
Kingdom Hearts: Done.
CoM/Re:CoM: Done.
Kingdom Hearts II: Done.
Final Mixes: Done.
358/2 Days: Done.
Kingdom Hearts Gummi Enemies: On hold due to lack of info. (Every one of them appear to be named after a Final Fantasy summon, so I can handle the etymology for them when we finally get pages for 'em).
Kingdom Hearts II Gummi Enemies: Descriptions done, several etymologies needed.
Birth by Sleep: Descriptions done. Etymology on hold due in anticipation of name changes.
Dan - Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase! ♫ — 18:39, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
Awesome, I'll get to the gummi etymologies soon. Just one thing, the Wyvern is still lacking a proper design section, if someone could handle that, it would be great.
"If you want trouble - *breaks windshield* - then you just keep coming on!"
Hey guys, I don't mean to barge in, but on the topic of the Unversed etymologies; I've started to write them on my own here. Keep in mind, these are still a work in progress, and, well, to put it simply, my goal is to make each of these the best as they possibly can, so they can be put right into the article's Design section. At this moment, I've written them for all of the Unversed save for the bosses.
Progress
List critters in alphabetical order under each game. For enemies that appear in more than one game, please make sure to list them under the first game they appear in.
Kingdom Hearts
Basic enemy descriptions are completed.
Air Pirate
Air Soldier
Angel Star
AntiSora
Aquatank
Bandit
Barrel Spider
Battleship
Behemoth
Bit Sniper
Black Fungus
Blue Rhapsody
Bouncywild
Cave of Wonders Guardian
Chernabog
Darkball
Darkside - needs etymology
Defender
Fat Bandit
Gargoyle
Green Requiem
Guard Armor/Opposite Armor
Ice Titan
Invisible
Large Body
Parasite Cage
Phantom
Pirate
Pot Centipede
Pot Spider
Powerwild
Rare Truffle
Red Nocturne
Rock Titan
Screwdiver
Sea Neon
Search Ghost
Shadow
Shadow Blob
Shadow Sora
Sheltering Zone
Soldier
Stealth Sneak
Trickmaster
White Mushroom
Wight Knight
Wizard
World of Chaos
Wyvern
Yellow Opera
Kingdom Hearts Gummy Enemies
Chain of Memories/Re:Chain of Memories
Creeper Plant
Crescendo
Tornado Step
Kingdom Hearts II
Aeroplane
Aerial Knocker
Armored Knight
Assassin
Assault Rider
Berserker
Blizzard Lord and Volcanic Lord
Bolt Tower
Bookmaster
Bulky Vendor
Cannon Gun
Creeper
Crimson Jazz
Dancer
Devastator
Dragoon
Driller Mole
Dusk
Emerald Blues
The Experiment
Firey Globe
Fortuneteller
Gambler
Gargoyle Knight
Gargoyle Warrior
Graveyard
Grim Reaper
Groundshaker
Hammer Frame
Hook Bat
Hostile Program
Hot Rod
Icy Cube
Illuminator
Lance Soldier
Living Bone
Luna Bandit
Magnum Loader
Minute Bomb
Morning Star
Nightwalker
Possessor and Thresholder
Prison Keeper
Rabid Dog
Rapid Thruster
Samurai
Shadow Stalker and Dark Thorn
Shaman
Silver Rock
Sniper
Sorcerer
Storm Rider
Strafer
Surveillance Robot/Watcher
Toy Soldier
Trick Ghost
Twilight Thorn
Kingdom Hearts II Gummy Course Enemies
Bomb Bell
Bomber
Crawler
Cruiser and Mini-Cruiser
Cyclops
Dragonfly
Driller
Gatling Ship
Grappler
Hex Ring
Hunter
Hunter X
Knight Head
Mad Rider
Mega Tank
Mystic Flyer - needs etymology
Phoenix
Pirate Ship
Reaper's Wheel
Ring Tank
Shield
Speeder
Spider - needs Japanese etymology
Spiked Roller - needs Japanese etymology
Submarine
Tank
U.F.O.
Final Mixes
Aerial Champ
Air Viking
Arch Behemoth
Black Ballade
Chimera
Destroyed Behemoth
Gigas Shadow
Grand Ghost
Iron Hammer
Jet Balloon
Lance Warrior
Mad Bumper
Magic Phantom
Missile Diver
Mushroom XIII
Necromancer
Neoshadow
Pink Agaricus
Pot Scorpion
Perplex
Reckless
Red Armor
Runemaster
Silent Launcher
Sneak Army
Sniper Wild
Spring Metal
Stealth Soldier
358/2 Days
Aerial Master
Air Battler
Anti-Riku
Anti-Saix
Antlion
Artful Flyer
Avalanche
Barrier Master
Blitz Spear
Blizzard Plant
Bubble Beat
Bully Dog
Carrier Ghost
Chill Ripper
Clay Armor
Commander
Creepworm
Crimson Prankster
Cymbal Monkey
Dark Follower
Destroyer
Detonator
Dire Plant
Dual Blade
Dustflier
Emerald Serenade
Fire Plant
Flare Note
Grey Caprice
Guardian
Heat Saber
Hover Ghost
Ice Cannon
Infernal Engine
Jumbo Cannon
Land Armor
Large Armor
Leechgrave/Tentaclaw
Living Pod
Lurk Lizard
Massive Possessor
Mega-Shadow
Novashadow
Orcus
Phantomtail
Pink Concerto
Poison Plant
Powered Armor
Rare Vendor
Ruler of the Sky
Sapphire Elegy
Scarlet Tango
Scorching Sphere
Sergeant
Skater Bomb
Sky Grappler
Snapper Dog
Snowy Crystal
Solid Armor
Spiked Crawler
Stalwart Blade
Storm Bomb
Striped Aria
Switch Launcher
Tailbunker
Tricky Monkey
Turquoise March
Veil Lizard
Wavecrest
Windstorm
Zip Slasher
Birth by Sleep
Arch Raven
Axe Flapper
Blue Sea-Salt
Bruiser
Buckle Bruiser
Chest Spider
Chrono Twister
Cursed Carriage
Flood
Ice Colossus
Iron Prisoner
Irritable Tank
Laser Bunny
Jelly Ball
Mad Treant
Mandrake
Mimic Master
Monotracker
Medicine Bottle
Metamorphosis
Prize Pot
Red-Hot Chili
Scrapper
Shade Jelly
Shoe Gazer
Sonic Blaster
Spring Loady
Symphony Master
Thorn Bite
Vanitas's Sentiment
Vile Face
Wheel Master
Wild Bruiser
Yellow Mustard
(Let's hold off on doing these guys until official names and such are out, okay guys?)
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Dan - A FO BEN, BID BONT. 
09:27, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
About the Artful Flyer, Sky Grappler, Air Battler and Aerial Master's names being references to academic degrees, the only thing I can find so far is the "
Dan - GWNEWCH Y PETHAU BYCHAIN MEWN BYWYD. 
