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Is this ready to be posted on the page? {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 19:55, 3 October 2015 (UTC)c
Is this ready to be posted on the page? {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 19:55, 3 October 2015 (UTC)c


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|width="18%" style="font-size:12px; color:white; text-align:center"|'''World'''
|width="20%" style="font-size:12px; color:white; text-align:center"|'''World'''
|width="26%" style="font-size:12px; color:white; text-align:center"|'''Ingredients'''
|width="15%" style="font-size:12px; color:white; text-align:center"|'''Character'''
|width="9%" style="font-size:12px; color:white; text-align:center"|'''Character'''
|width="15%" style="font-size:12px; color:white; text-align:center"|'''Area'''
|width="10%" style="font-size:12px; color:white; text-align:center"|'''Location'''
|width="30%" style="font-size:12px; color:white; text-align:center"|'''Spawn Trigger'''
|width="26%" style="font-size:12px; color:white; text-align:center"|'''Spawn Trigger'''
|width="20%" style="font-size:12px; color:white; text-align:center"|'''Ingredients'''
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|rowspan=3|'''[[Dwarf Woodlands]]'''
|rowspan=3|[[File:Dwarf Woodlands KHBBS.png|100px|link=Dwarf Woodlands]] '''[[Dwarf Woodlands]]'''  
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*[[File:Candy ingredient KHBBS.png|14px]]{{nihongo|'''Apple Pie'''|夢見るリンゴ|<br>Yumemiru Ringo|lit. "Dream Apple"}}
*[[File:Topping ingredient KHBBS.png|14px]]{{nihongo|'''Gaspberry'''|秘密のラズベリ|<br>Himitsu no Razuberi|lit. "Secret Raspberry"}}
*[[File:Topping ingredient KHBBS.png|14px]]{{nihongo|'''Merry Mint'''|ハミングミント|<br>Hamingu Minto|lit. "Humming Mint"}}{{FMBbS}}
*[[File:Bottle ingredient KHBBS.png|14px]]{{nihongo|'''Merry Dairy'''|ロマンスミルク|<br>Romansu Miruku|lit. "Romance Milk"}}
*[[File:Topping ingredient KHBBS.png|14px]]{{nihongo|'''Nutty Nut'''|ワイルドナッツ|<br>Wairudo Nattsu|lit. "Wild Nuts"}}
*[[File:Candy ingredient KHBBS.png|14px]]{{nihongo|'''Peach Fantasy'''|ファンタジーピーチ|<br>Fantajī Pīchi|lit. "Fantasy Peach"}}
|Terra
|Terra
|[[Underground Waterway]]
|[[Underground Waterway]]
|Spawn point on top of a waterfall near the exit to the [[Courtyard]].
|Spawn point on top of a waterfall near the exit to the [[Courtyard]].
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*[[Apple Pie]]
*[[Gaspberry]]
*[[Merry Mint]]{{FMBbS}}
*[[Merry Dairy]]
*[[Nutty Nut]]
*[[Peach Fantasy]]
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|-bgcolor="#E6E6FA"
|Ventus
|Ventus
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|Area to the left of the path from the Courtyard.
|Area to the left of the path from the Courtyard.
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|-bgcolor="#E6E6FA"
|rowspan=3|'''[[Enchanted Dominion]]'''
|rowspan=3|[[File:Enchanted Dominion KHBBS.png|100px|link=Enchanted Dominion]] '''[[Enchanted Dominion]]'''
|style="text-align:left" rowspan=3|
*[[File:Topping ingredient KHBBS.png|14px]]{{nihongo|'''Bijou Bean'''|ジュエリービーンズ|<br>Juerī Bīnzu|lit. "Jewelry Beans"}}
*[[File:Candy ingredient KHBBS.png|14px]]{{nihongo|'''Cherryberry'''|瓶詰めイチゴ|<br>Bindzume Ichigo|lit. "Bottled Strawberry"}}
*[[File:Cake ingredient KHBBS.png|14px]]{{nihongo|'''Forest Muffin'''|森のカステラ|<br>Mori no Kasutera|lit. "Forest Castella"}}
*[[File:Topping ingredient KHBBS.png|14px]]{{nihongo|'''Jumbo Almond'''|大粒アーモンド|<br>Ōtsubu Āmondo}}
*[[File:Bottle ingredient KHBBS.png|14px]]{{nihongo|'''Rose Honey'''|ローズハニー|<br>Rōzu Hanī}}
*[[File:Bottle ingredient KHBBS.png|14px]]{{nihongo|'''Sky Blue Mousse'''|青空のゼリー|<br>Aozora no Zerī|lit. "Blue Sky Jelly"}}
|Terra
|Terra
|[[Waterside]]
|[[Waterside]]
|Near the wall of fire at the northernmost part.
|Near the wall of fire at the northernmost part.
|rowspan=3|
*[[Bijou Bean]]
*[[Cherryberry]]
*[[Forest Muffin]]
*[[Jumbo Almond]]
*[[Rose Honey]]
*[[Sky Blue Mousse]]
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|-bgcolor="#E6E6FA"
|Ventus
|Ventus

Revision as of 17:50, 14 October 2015

TerraTalk1.png
Eternal Nothingness XIII - Terra Master Symbol.png You have to be strong. Strength of heart will carry you through the hardest of trials.
TALK - What I do, I do for friendship. — 15:51, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
TerraCharm.pngThese videos and the information they contain need to be incorporated into the article. I'm gonna revise the article anyways as I go through Project BBS, but I'm not quite sure where to put everything.

<youtube>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_xhogFJrq4</youtube> <youtube>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MxPzrRxkPI&feature=related</youtube> <youtube>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeb_jd2f2q4&feature=related</youtube>

Thank you. If someone would take the liberty of going through the article and adding information where applicable, I'll go in later when I conquer the Unversed articles and make sure everything's 100%


In Ven's for the Deep Space, it must be the enemy set with the Yellow Mustard. Another Combonation of enemies includes Tank Toppers, and they screw it up

What are you talking about?LapisLazuliScarab21:18, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

Sometimes when you pop into the Durgon Transporter with Ventus, you get a group of Unversed with Tank toppers. If the Tank Toppers show up, then the Prize Pods won't. I forgot to sign it last time, sorry Hyperwre_2.0 17:20, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Draft

Is this ready to be posted on the page? TheFifteenthMember 19:55, 3 October 2015 (UTC)c

World Character Area Spawn Trigger Ingredients
Dwarf Woodlands Dwarf Woodlands Terra Underground Waterway Spawn point on top of a waterfall near the exit to the Courtyard.
Ventus The Mine Lit area far on the right. Defeat the Monotruckers and Red Hot Chilis.
Aqua Flower Glade Area to the left of the path from the Courtyard.
Enchanted Dominion Enchanted Dominion Terra Waterside Near the wall of fire at the northernmost part.
Ventus Audience Chamber Columned area to the left of the entrance. If Red Hot Chilis appear, leave the area and return.
Aqua Waterside After exiting the Forest Clearing, in the corner of the cliff on the left side.
Castle of Dreams Terra Palace Courtyard Go over to the fountain in the center and defeat four Red Hot Chilis. If another four appear, exit the area and come back.
Ventus Mousehole Far end of the area accessible through the hole on top of the end table with a clock in the Wardrobe Room.
Aqua Foyer Underneath the stairs on the left side. If you don't encounter a single Bruiser beforehand, re-enter the area until it appears.
Radiant Garden All Fountain Court Defeat four Blue Sea Salts in the recess adjacent to the stairs. If Red Hot Chilis appear instead, leave the area and come back.
Disney Town Terra Raceway Defeat four Blue Sea Salts in the blue walled roof across from the exit of Pete's Rec Room, only accessible via Air Sliding. If a Chrono Twister appears, leave the area and come back.
Ventus Raceway Roof leading from the exit to Pete's Rec Room. Defeat four Blue Sea Salts. If none appear, leave the area and come back.
Aqua Raceway After exiting the Raceway Registration, immediately to your left against the wall with the hidden Mickeys. Must defeat a few Blue Sea Salts beforehand.
Olympus Coliseum All Town Near Thebes Southeast corner. If only Red Hot Chilis appear, or none appear at all, leave the area and come back until Red Hot Chilis and Prize Pots appear together.
Deep Space Terra
Aqua
Turo Prison Block Far end of the hall
Ventus Durgon Transporter In the airlock leading to the Ship Exterior. Defeat the first wave of enemies that appear in the room, after which the Prize Pods will appear. If a second wave of enemies appears instead, exit and re-enter the room and try again.
Neverland Terra Skull Rock: Entrance Small cliff accessible via Air Slide from Skull Rock: Cavern. If Jellyshades and a Triple Wrecker appear, leave the area and come back.
Ventus Mermaid Lagoon On the ledge accessible from the Cliff Path. A Wild Bruiser will appear alone first, followed by the Prize Pods and four Yellow Mustards. If the Wild Bruiser and Yellow Mustards appear together, exit the area and re-enter.
Aqua Indian Camp Far end of the area. Appears alongside a Wild Bruiser.
Mirage Arena Risky Riches:

Treasure Tussle:

All Risky Riches Eight Prize Pods appear in the second-to-last wave of Round Three.
Treasure Tussle Prize Pods spawn on the third wave of Round Three and appear on both platforms.

It has a lot of empty space that we should trim first, and the characters should have br instead of commas. I am somewhat confused though, what is the intent of this version compared to the previous? Is it to replace the images for readers whose computers won't load them? If so, would it be possible to do both image and word (for world at least) to try and fill some of the blank space?

Also, why are we putting the ingredient nihongo on this page instead of the Ice Cream page?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 15:27, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

I wanted to remove the images. Adding world icons could make this table look prettier, I agree. I put the ingredient nihongo (and icons) here because if we're removing the locations from the Ice Cream page, it'd make more sense to redirect the ingredients here, where most of the information is kept. I assume most readers search for an ingredient name because they're missing it as part of a recipe and want to see where it is; if they're redirected to the Ice Cream page, they'll only see what recipe their ingredient belongs to, which would be useless knowledge to them. TheFifteenthMember 15:37, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Wouldn't it make more sense to put this table on the Ice Cream page, then? TheSilentHero 17:17, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
Locations of this manner basically serve as a strategy section for the Prize Pods, so they make sense here, but that also means the table is fairly packed. Aesthetically, I think it would look nicer to have the ingredient nihongo on that page, and have this one focus on where to find the Prize Pods that drop them. It would leave both tables less cluttered than repeating the same info in both places."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 12:39, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
So which article would the ingredients redirect to? The locations should be on that page. I have no problem with this table being on the Ice Cream page and this strategy section linking to that page. TheFifteenthMember 18:27, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
Maybe we could make a "List of Ice Cream Ingredients" page and put it on there. TheSilentHero 22:21, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
We can put the world on the ingredients/ice cream page, I guess."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 05:05, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
Why can't all the information (nihongos, worlds, specific locations within the world) be all in one place rather than scattered across pages? TheFifteenthMember 16:45, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
It's not all part of the same information. Some of that is information for the Prize Pods (specific locations), some of that is info for the Ice Cream (nihongo and world). Trying to combine that all into one page would mean bloating this page with information on the Ice Creams; trying to put too much information about items on an enemy page already makes it difficult to organize and categorize, and that kind of thing doesn't really work too well if you have to start making tables (we do the Mushrooms because you can handle those with quick, simple prose). There's no real need to create a third page if we already have the Ice Cream page, so it makes the most sense to have the walkthrough portion on how to hunt Prize Pods on this page (it's not like the way you hunt them depends on the ingredients at all, you just get that world's set of ingredients at random no matter what), and all the item data on an item page.
Mostly, though, I think the table looks a bit cramped having the nihongo and strategy paragraph at the same time."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 12:44, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

My gripe is when you search for an ingredient, you're redirected to the Ice Cream page which doesn't describe its location in detail and doesn't guide the reader on where to find that information. In my playthrough, I had an issue where I was missing a few ingredients (since I never hammered the Prize Pods enough) and needed to find the Prize Pod location via ingredient rather than world. We can't expect readers to know the layout of our wiki in order to find information, so I think we should put a "see also" template at the top of the section. TheFifteenthMember 18:33, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Ooooooooh, that makes sense. What if we got rid of the world column on the ice cream article, and instead turned the ingredient names into anchored links to this article, so that you can click on the ingredient there to find where the prize pod is here?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 14:25, 13 October 2015 (UTC)