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And I must say, I appreciate that this time the instigator (I tried to find a more euphamistic word, but I couldn't think of one) actually came to the community ''first'' as opposed to just outright doing it and then remaining ignorant to the communities wishes.  I also appreciate that his opship was restored.<!---And throughout this argument, there has been one thing I've been dying to say, but never would.--->}}
And I must say, I appreciate that this time the instigator (I tried to find a more euphamistic word, but I couldn't think of one) actually came to the community ''first'' as opposed to just outright doing it and then remaining ignorant to the communities wishes.  I also appreciate that his opship was restored.<!---And throughout this argument, there has been one thing I've been dying to say, but never would.--->}}
{{SilverCrono|time=21:31, 20 November 2011 (UTC)|text=<s>Kill it with fire. Nobody messes with Captain Planet.</s>
If Erry's been getting better, then yeah, let him keep the OPs. However, he has a history of returning to his bad ways, so I say get somebody trustworthy to keep logs of him (Sapheh?), and he if exhibits behavior like this again, take dem ops away. Forever and ever and ever and ''the end''.
...'''''captain planet'''''}}

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DoorToNothing Heartless Emblem.png — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven!

And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 05:52, 20 November 2011 (UTC)~
Keyblade-Blk.png It is required that you listen to this song while reading this forum.

As requested, I have respectfully returned the +o flag to ErryK, resolving this stalemate-locked issue plaguing the IRC and Roundtables. However, this opens the door to a resolution of the conflict: a judging of whether or not Erry has the ability or even deserves to remain in the spot of channel operator.

Now, as many of you remember, I wrote a MASSIVE GIGA WALL O' TEXT THE SIZE OF TWO UNIVERSES about this subject earlier, and if you are serious about contributing to this forum, it is of the utmost importance that you go and read it. It is long but if you do not read it, you are giving a blind opinion, which is exactly what we are trying to avoid in this forum's discussion. (scroll down until you see it)

Now, for the evidence. As I said, I am able to provide evidence of of Erry's actions on the IRC that make him absolutely unfitting to be in any leadership position there. Below is a collection of log excerpts that display this behavior of his—and this is not even all of it, just some of it. Regrettably, a lot of the confessionals took place in Erry and I's PM memo, which I unfortunately did not have set to log. I apologize for that, and I know that I've let you down; I've been a fool to myself, but hopefully what is below should be PLENTY to show you what we are dealing with. Logs are in chronological order and contain both relevant and non-relevant material, but have been cut/abridged to show only material that pertains to the situation. (Originals available on request, though there is no difference in all but perhaps a few cases, if any) These logs serve two purposes: expose Erry's inappropriate, rude, and violent behavior as well reveal the support from a large community of users who support the removal of his channel operator flag.

I hope you could identify the a few themes in the logs above. Firstly, Erry does not solve problems with log or fairness. Instead, he avoids you by leaving the IRC whenever you log on, abuses his channel operator rights, or breaks the rules knowing that he is doing so. A channel operator should be able to mediate and take care of problems rather than be stubborn. Secondly, Erry likes to skate right on the edge of rule-breaking when he is not doing so absolutely. A channel operator should not be playing so close to the fire that we are trying to prevent from kindling, figuratively speaking.

So therefore, with all things considered, I believe that Erry does not deserve the +o flag and should have it removed immediately.


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maggosh The steel is forged... — "Souls as far as the eye can see..."

"If you want light to rule over all, then you must rid the world of everything else."

Aren't you dead?


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Oh wow, that song is good.

*ehem* that aside, I believe everyone has a second chance. So without any intention of insulting or favoring anyone, I believe we should give his OP right for the time being. If he succeeds in showing proper behavior as an OP this time, then let him has the right until something came up that requires him to be de-opped again.

And by all honesty, I don't really like seeing people cursing, insulting or whatever bad attitude they're showing so can we please just get along and be all sunshine and rainbows?


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Sove Talk to Me! — "I dunno. I can't... just look inside. But I figure... If there is something in there - inside us - then we'd feel it, wouldn't we?"

"No one would miss me." — 10:30, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
I agree with 17m for now, Erry's behaviour has changed positively since these incidents. If he can prove to be worthy, I won't have a problem with him having OP privileges. If he keeps breaking the rules or abuses the OP privileges again, I will have to support his re-deopping. As much as I hate to do this to people I consider friends, I can't defend them in everything, like in this case.

And I really meant what I said about his opping in the first place. While Erry is nice towards me and many others, I still saw that opping him is probably not a good idea. Yes, I have a sixth sense, I saw the abuse coming. Still, nothing personal on Erry, I still like him, but I just can't tolerate his past actions.

Where did I mention a higher punishment? o.O Maggosh made that suggestion, not me. I might have somewhat supported it, but not to a ban (and if I did mention that, I didn't actually mean that. The problem with the bans is that it might lead to more harm than good, and in this case, it almost certainly would. Ban is not the right solution.


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maggosh The steel is forged... — "Souls as far as the eye can see..."

"If you want light to rule over all, then you must rid the world of everything else."

Not to mention I made that suggestion out of pure mockery and sarcasm.
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Chitalian8 Say... — And here's me, playing the world's tiniest violin.

Your face is priceless. — 17:24, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
20px-Pin_000.png I agree with most of Sove's points. Although he is an excellent user, I just don't see him being a responsible OP on the IRC channel. To be perfectly blunt, Erry's far too antagonistic, and as DTN put it, "sarcastically rude", to be trusted with OPship.


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TALK - "I'm also better than you!"
I vote we give him one more chance. If he does any of this again, we can deop him for good.


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It is pitch black...
You are likely to be eaten by a grue...
You are standing alone in the room.

Beneath your right foot is something. When you move your leg, you can hear it crunch, like old paper.

>take paper

Taken.

>examine paper

It appears to be an ancient letter, from someone known as "The_Inexistent".

>examine message from The_Inexistent

The message reads:

No, we will not drop this, even if that is the sensable and rational thing to do.

And apparently my comments on your gigantic paragraph link also did not exist.

  1. The context of this before hand would be nice... as it seems a tad... purposelly edited.
  2. I'll give you that one.
  3. I really don't have an opinion on this one... confusion can sometimes be a terrible beasty.
  4. I would recognize the valid points in there, but there is far too much hyperboly. True, Erry can be a tad extreme and antagonistic, but Saph is suddenly his superior in all manners? Hardly.
  5. I'll give you that one as well.
  6. That is... meh. It's about as inappropriate as the time I said that our walkthroughs would be better if they were hosted here than Strategy Wiki Inadvertantly making Prod rather angry.
  7. Yes, bad.
  8. Erry's last line is somewhat true. I've seen plenty of times where he is nice and helpful. However, only the times when he was being inappropriate are shown. It's like saying that Caesar shouldn't have been considered Roman because his power thirst was unpatriotic... he still built up the republic.
  9. It's easier to blame the king than the parliament... ...of course, in this case, the "king" was really the only one actually enoforcing (and making) the decision...
  10. Murder of passion. True, he broke a rule (which he should have realized), but only in defense of his own annoyance.
  11. Aside from the fact that I'm pretty sure his intent was because you joined, you're making the assumption that he was avoiding you. I truly hate it when I have to leave just as someone joins, as it makes me feel... rather... rude.
  12. I respect Sove's opinion.
  13. Meh.
  14. Yes, still inappropriate.

...take care of problems rather than be stubborn.

Both of you have brought this up how many times?

And I must say, I appreciate that this time the instigator (I tried to find a more euphamistic word, but I couldn't think of one) actually came to the community first as opposed to just outright doing it and then remaining ignorant to the communities wishes. I also appreciate that his opship was restored.

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SilverCrono Well, I can tell who you are. — "Looks like you're prepared."

"What is with you and picking up stray puppies?" — 21:31, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
Isa_bbs.png Kill it with fire. Nobody messes with Captain Planet.

If Erry's been getting better, then yeah, let him keep the OPs. However, he has a history of returning to his bad ways, so I say get somebody trustworthy to keep logs of him (Sapheh?), and he if exhibits behavior like this again, take dem ops away. Forever and ever and ever and the end.


...captain planet

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