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===First Meeting===
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[21:21:33] <Neumannz> wow, that's almost verbatim your instructions, kryten
[21:21:33] <Neumannz> wow, that's almost verbatim your instructions, kryten
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[16:06:31] <KrytenKoro> heey guys
[16:06:55] <KrytenKoro> meeting still on?
[16:07:50] <KrytenKoro> What's the dizzle, my brizzles?
[16:08:12] <ErryK> DTN was here
[16:08:16] <ErryK> But he left a few minutes ago.
[16:08:32] <Dan36> There's a meeting?
[16:09:07] <KrytenKoro> according to the topic
[16:09:09] <ErryK> "Due to some difficutly in planning/being present on April 2nd, the meeting has been moved to April 9th."
[16:09:11] <KrytenKoro> I got here as soon as I could
[16:09:22] <ErryK> DTN moved it to today, but he left.
[16:09:25] <ErryK> :|
[16:09:49] <Dan36> What's the meeting to discuss this time?
[16:11:30] <KrytenKoro> Well
[16:11:42] <KrytenKoro> 1) We need to choose a featured article for this month, we're quite late
[16:11:53] <KrytenKoro> 2) we need volunteers to help finish Avatar Menu
[16:12:02] <KrytenKoro> 3) We need to discuss the Heartless Manufactory situation
[16:12:13] <KrytenKoro> 4) Progress report on the audit
[16:13:02] <Dan36> Okay.
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[16:21:35] <KrytenKoro> soooo....
[16:21:37] <KrytenKoro> anyway
[16:21:49] <KrytenKoro> where the hell is everybody?
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[16:22:01] <ENX> I, for one, am right here.
[16:22:13] <Asorailahd> ENX, long time no see.
[16:22:22] <KrytenKoro> be right back
[16:22:23] <ENX> Indeed, Asorailahd.
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[16:43:36] <KKoro|Away> back
[16:43:41] <KKoro|Away> |nick KrytenKoro
[16:46:04] <Asorailahd> "/nick KrytenKoro"
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[17:43:07] <BlackSoulBlade> Heyoo
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[17:55:32] <KKoro|Away> why did you guys all come and then leave?
[17:55:35] <KKoro|Away> and who the hell are you?
[17:55:42] <Asorailahd> Sorry Kryten. :/
[17:55:48] <Asorailahd> Just some fools from #wikia-sims.
[17:57:21] <KKoro|Away> ah
[17:57:23] <KKoro|Away> anyway
[17:57:25] <KKoro|Away> are we all here?
[17:57:28] <KKoro|Away> are we doing this?
[17:59:58] <Asorailahd> Uh, I don't think we're all here just yet.
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[18:08:24] <DoorToNothing> We're all here.
[18:08:32] <DoorToNothing> Xion can't be here forever, so let's get started.
[18:08:40] <Xion4ever> "Hail hail the gang's all here."
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[18:14:54] <KrytenKoro> me es stupido
[18:14:55] <KrytenKoro> anyway
[18:15:03] <KrytenKoro> [16:12] <KrytenKoro> 1) We need to choose a featured article for this month, we're quite late [16:12] <KrytenKoro> 2) we need volunteers to help finish Avatar Menu [16:12] <KrytenKoro> 3) We need to discuss the Heartless Manufactory situation [16:12] <KrytenKoro> 4) Progress report on the audit
[18:15:20] <KrytenKoro> At this point, it's clear that Avatar Menu will not be finished anytime soon
[18:15:27] <KrytenKoro> so, there's no way it's the featured article for April
[18:15:41] <KrytenKoro> I suggest an article that is small, but still good enough to be featured
[18:15:46] <DoorToNothing> Also the Featured Media for this month SUCKS.
[18:15:54] <DoorToNothing> Just felt that I needed to throw that in.
[18:15:58] <DoorToNothing> Anyway, featured article.
[18:16:19] <DoorToNothing> What's really model-worthy is the question.
[18:17:08] <Xion4ever> Last few months have been world, weapon, and gameplay element...Maybe a character?
[18:17:22] <DoorToNothing> Eh.
[18:17:45] <DoorToNothing> I'm still hesitant on choosing a character for the reasons stated at the top of the Featured Article page.
[18:18:08] <DoorToNothing> Hey, we haven't done a Heartless in a long time.
[18:18:19] <DoorToNothing> KrytenKoro, you're our enemy specialist, what's lookin' good right now?
[18:21:56] <DoorToNothing> ... I guess I 'll see what can be found.
[18:22:15] <Xion4ever> We've already had Guard Armor and Shadow.
[18:22:57] <DoorToNothing> Large Body is popular.
[18:23:10] <DoorToNothing> As well as the most annoying thing in perhaps existence for the first two worlds of Re:coded.
[18:23:10] <KrytenKoro> http://www.khwiki.net/Dragoon is complete, I think
[18:23:18] <DoorToNothing> A Nobody, cool.
[18:23:30] <DoorToNothing> We've only featured a Nobody enemy once.
[18:23:35] <DoorToNothing> And Dragoons are awesome, after all.
[18:23:38] <DoorToNothing> See also: Kain Highwind
[18:23:38] <KrytenKoro> I think it's actually the article being used as the enemy template for the Items project
[18:23:39] <KrytenKoro> so
[18:23:47] <DoorToNothing> Alright.
[18:23:51] <DoorToNothing> I'll start that up right now.
[18:24:07] <KrytenKoro> wait
[18:24:12] <KrytenKoro> something's wrong with the Enemy template
[18:24:19] <KrytenKoro> (dammit, I still need to fix that)
[18:25:53] <DoorToNothing> Oh, the stats in the coliseum are messed up in the resistances/weaknesses.
[18:25:55] <DoorToNothing> :/
[18:31:03] <Xion4ever> (Side bar:If I am forced to log off, I will try to get back on.)
[18:32:02] <DoorToNothing> http://www.khwiki.net/Twilight_Thorn KrytenKoro , what's missing here, just to give me an idea of what to look for in a case like this or to approve?
[18:33:04] <KrytenKoro> Nothing that I can see, although I dislike the trivia bit being in the lead
[18:33:26] <KrytenKoro> it seems rather useless to me, and possibly untrue if we consider the Replica Data, Absent Silhouettes, or Replica to be Nobodies
[18:42:06] <KrytenKoro> I fixed the error on Dragoon's tempalte
[18:42:08] <KrytenKoro> *template
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[18:43:47] <Xion4ever> Hey there, Lego.
[18:44:01] <DoctorReeves> Xion, greetings
[18:44:21] <DoctorReeves> You haven't been online in a while.
[18:44:24] <DoctorReeves> Good to see you :]
[18:44:33] <Xion4ever> Same to you. ^_^
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[18:53:26] <Xion4ever> Parents coming in, gotta go. I'll try to come back on.
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[18:54:52] <DoctorReeves> Dang :|
[18:58:38] <KrytenKoro> so, anyway
[18:58:40] <KrytenKoro> Dragoon is fixed
[18:59:00] <KrytenKoro> it's a complete article, as far as I can tell, unless Dragoons appear in cutscenes somewhere in KH2
[18:59:41] <KrytenKoro> The only other improvement I can think of is finding a non-watermarked image of its card: http://www.khwiki.net/Card:Dragoon
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[19:00:18] <Doorsey|JaneEyre> Dammit, wrong nick.
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[19:03:03] <KrytenKoro> soooo..what?
[19:03:07] <KrytenKoro> what's going on here?
[19:03:09] <KrytenKoro> peoples?
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[19:07:01] <KrytenKoro> hoookay
[19:07:03] <KrytenKoro> anyway
[19:07:08] <KrytenKoro> Avatar Menu:
[19:07:15] <KrytenKoro> Who the hell here has Re:coded?
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[19:08:49] <ErryK> Mw.
[19:08:51] <ErryK> Me*
[19:11:08] <KrytenKoro> awesssome
[19:11:15] <KrytenKoro> how far are you in the Avatar Sector?
[19:11:34] <ErryK> It's been the same all this time. :|
[19:12:05] <KrytenKoro> ah
[19:12:10] <KrytenKoro> anyone else?
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[19:14:16] <KrytenKoro> anyway
[19:14:28] <DoctorReeves> I have an idea.
[19:14:32] <DoctorReeves> For the card articles.
[19:14:33] <KrytenKoro> mkay
[19:14:38] <DoctorReeves> Get rid of them.
[19:14:43] <KrytenKoro> (oh yea, don't we tab them or something?)
[19:14:45] <KrytenKoro> what.
[19:14:46] <KrytenKoro> no.
[19:14:46] <DoctorReeves> but
[19:15:03] <DoctorReeves> We add the card info to their respectve article's infoboxes.
[19:15:05] <DoctorReeves> As a tab or something.
[19:15:07] <maggosh> Oh, so we're not executing Lego yet?
[19:15:20] <KrytenKoro> hrm...
[19:15:23] <DoctorReeves> So the Card info for "Sora" would be under the article "Sora", but on his infobox.
[19:15:25] <DoctorReeves> On another tab.
[19:15:39] <KrytenKoro> a lot of the infobox info is wrapped up in categorization, though
[19:15:46] <DoctorReeves> Hrm.
[19:16:00] <ErryK> Why don't we just make one page for the card articles?
[19:16:04] <KrytenKoro> *infobox code
[19:16:08] <DoctorReeves> And we couldn't exactly categorize character articles under the card sphere.
[19:16:26] <DoctorReeves> Does you know if anyone actually uses the card-space?
[19:16:35] <DoctorReeves> Like, for actual card purposes?
[19:16:44] <maggosh> Well, me once being an average user never used it.
[19:17:01] <maggosh> In fact, I didn't know there was a TCG until I joined the wiki.
[19:17:09] <maggosh> And even then, I had to do some looking.
[19:17:26] <KrytenKoro> as for merging them all into one page - that would totally disrupt how the card pages link to each other
[19:17:36] <DoctorReeves> Hrm.
[19:17:47] <maggosh> Hmm.
[19:17:49] <DoctorReeves> What about just putting all of the sets onto one page?
[19:17:49] <maggosh> Idea.
[19:17:58] <DoctorReeves> Like "Base Set - cardlist"
[19:18:04] <DoctorReeves> Or Base Set/Cardlist
[19:18:05] <maggosh> Oh, that's a good idea.
[19:18:18] <DoctorReeves> And then just have all the cards with the tabbed infoboxes on that page.
[19:18:27] <DoctorReeves> Rather than having a ton of Card articles that we never use.
[19:18:40] <KrytenKoro> http://www.khwiki.net/Card:Shadow
[19:18:47] <DoctorReeves> That'll make it easier to keep track of 'em all.
[19:18:56] <KrytenKoro> one of the uses of the categorization is to help you search for certain types of cards easily
[19:19:01] <maggosh> Yeah, consolidate it, lessens the clutter.
[19:19:04] <KrytenKoro> having them all on one page would totally make that useless
[19:19:11] <DoctorReeves> True.
[19:19:18] <KrytenKoro> http://www.khwiki.net/Card:Roxas
[19:19:25] <KrytenKoro> This is an example of linking to specific other cards
[19:19:42] <DoctorReeves> Hmm.
[19:19:58] <KrytenKoro> We could have pages that listed all the cards in each set, sure (probably one for the whole series, actually), but merging every card onto one page seems like it would be completely useless.
[19:19:59] <ErryK> What would make them being on one page so useless?
[19:20:08] <KrytenKoro> How would you search?
[19:20:34] <ErryK> Ctrl+F
[19:20:36] <ErryK> Duh.
[19:20:42] <KrytenKoro> It's the same reason we don't put all item types on one page, people wouldn't be able to search for specific types of items.
[19:20:44] <KrytenKoro> ....wow.
[19:20:47] <DoctorReeves> not everyone is that savvy, Erry.
[19:20:54] <KrytenKoro> Okay, first off, tabs make that unworkable
[19:21:09] <DoctorReeves> Kryten: Game mechanics and a not very heard of card game are a little different cases.
[19:21:13] <ErryK> Or we could do what Lego said.
[19:21:19] <KrytenKoro> Second off...If you want a list of all Dark cards, how would you find it?
[19:21:35] <KrytenKoro> Right now, you just click on "Category:Dark Cards (TCG)", or whatever the category is named
[19:21:39] <DoctorReeves> Yeah, you're right, Kryten.
[19:21:41] <KrytenKoro> yours, you would have to dig through every tab
[19:21:59] <ErryK> Just put all the cards as a "/" of a main cards page.
[19:22:13] <KrytenKoro> That's not any different, practically, then what we have now
[19:22:14] <maggosh> Ooh, even better.
[19:22:15] <DoctorReeves> The card articles, to me, just seem like kind of a hassle.
[19:22:22] <ErryK> Instead of being separate articles
[19:22:27] <DoctorReeves> I was trying to come up with an alternative way of dealing with them.
[19:22:29] <KrytenKoro> In fact, the only difference is changing : to /
[19:22:38] <maggosh> We're planning to get rid of them on the old wiki.
[19:22:42] <KrytenKoro> it doesn't change anything about how many pages there are, or how they function
[19:23:28] <KrytenKoro> And if you bring them back into the mainspace, you'd make it harder to search for specific things, as non-related mainspace pages would show up too
[19:24:39] <KrytenKoro> okay, if you want to merge the cards with the character/enemy/world/item infoboxes, there's a few issues to deal with that I can see, but aesthetically, it would make sense:
[19:25:10] <KrytenKoro> 1) It would drastically increase the amount of categories on mainspace pages
[19:25:31] <KrytenKoro> 2) the tabs simply couldn't be template coded in. they'd have to be hand-applied for each page
[19:25:56] <KrytenKoro> 3) It would mean that all affected pages would need even more work to be considered "filled in and good"
[19:26:43] <DoctorReeves> Also, the card infobox settings would have to be imported in directly with the "Enemy" template.
[19:26:47] <DoctorReeves> Which could be hell.
[19:27:00] <KrytenKoro> 4) The linking from one card to another would be somewhat more difficult, because the reader would need to know to go past the first tab to the card tabs
[19:27:03] <KrytenKoro> no, that was (2)
[19:27:06] <DoctorReeves> Oh
[19:27:17] <KrytenKoro> there's simply no way to add them to the enemy template, or any of the other infobox templates
[19:27:28] <KrytenKoro> they would have to be hand-divved, like Keyblades are
[19:28:05] <KrytenKoro> 5) Many of the cards represent items that don't have any sort of infobox at present, like Magic spells - we'd have to figure out where to put the card infoboxes there
[19:28:16] <DoctorReeves> What about another alternative?
[19:28:22] <KrytenKoro> shoot
[19:28:38] <DoctorReeves> I am referring to my other suggestions stated above.
[19:28:51] <KrytenKoro> merging them all into one page?
[19:28:57] <DoctorReeves> Such as just sticking separate sets onto one page.
[19:29:00] <DoctorReeves> Yeah.
[19:29:14] <KrytenKoro> I don't see how that would do anything but cripple their present functionality
[19:29:21] <KrytenKoro> The tabs, for one, would be horrendous
[19:29:32] <DoctorReeves> That's the other point I'm trying to get at:
[19:29:39] <DoctorReeves> Does anyone actually USE their present functionality?
[19:30:14] <KrytenKoro> (I'm going to try real hard to stay level here)
[19:30:22] <DoctorReeves> mmm, I can drop it, if you like.
[19:30:25] <KrytenKoro> Not that I know of, no.
[19:30:29] <DoctorReeves> it isn't that big of a deal.
[19:31:01] <DoctorReeves> Perhaps a forum should be opened that brings this up.
[19:31:12] <DoctorReeves> We could get a little community feedback.
[19:31:16] <DoctorReeves> See what everyne thinks.
[19:31:18] <DoctorReeves> *everyone
[19:31:22] <KrytenKoro> about what?
[19:31:36] <DoctorReeves> Changing the layout of the Card namespace?
[19:31:45] <DoctorReeves> Forget about my idea of putting cards on mainspace pages.
[19:32:51] <KrytenKoro> Sure, start a forum, but I really don't see any way in which your previous suggestions would improve the wiki's coverage
[19:34:56] <DoctorReeves> Make things less cluttered; more organized; and hopefully a little more aesthetically pleasing.
[19:35:00] <DoctorReeves> Other than that, nothing, really.
[19:35:14] <DoctorReeves> Just forget I mentioned anything.
[19:38:22] <KrytenKoro> go ahead and start a forum if you want to
[19:38:30] <KrytenKoro> I'm just saying that I, personally, don't understand
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[19:42:12] <DoorToNothing> WE ARE NOT GETTING RID OF CARD ARTICLE.
[19:42:31] <maggosh> Yes, we've long established that.
[19:42:40] <DoorToNothing> Whee, good.
[19:44:03] <maggosh> Geez, and people say /I'm/ not around here too often.
[19:45:00] <ErryK> I'm talking about social... :|
[19:45:18] <DoorToNothing> Don't start, seriously.
[19:45:57] <DoorToNothing> Anyway, I agree with Kryten, after reading the logs of the conversation. A lot of work has been put into the cardspace, and their navigation getting blown to pieces is a huge waste of previous work.
[19:46:13] <DoorToNothing> Plus, that merges two rather separate features of the series.
[19:46:17] <DoorToNothing> brb
[19:46:48] <maggosh> Not even five minutes...
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[19:48:54] <KrytenKoro> o.k....
[19:48:55] <KrytenKoro> anyway
[19:49:04] <KrytenKoro> Fine, so there's going to be a forum or something on that
[19:49:15] <KrytenKoro> next topic: AVATAR MENU CHALLENGE CODES
[19:49:19] <KrytenKoro> seriously what the hell
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[19:52:31] <KrytenKoro> okay, fine, skip that for now
[19:52:46] <KrytenKoro> Heartless Manufactory
[19:55:38] <DoorToNothing> I will totally do that tonight.
[19:55:46] <DoorToNothing> I can get to my Wii, YES.
[19:55:53] <DoorToNothing> Okay, I am MAJOR confused on the HM.
[19:55:54] <DoorToNothing> I love the idea.
[19:55:56] <DoorToNothing> It's great.
[19:56:00] <DoorToNothing> But a few questions:
[19:56:12] <DoorToNothing> (1) Does the HM apply solely to personal attacks or all vandalism as well?
[19:56:31] <DoorToNothing> (2) Do the "attackers" set up a forum in the HM, or do we?
[19:56:44] <DoorToNothing> (2a) If the latter, are we to be contacted first?
[19:56:57] <DoorToNothing> (3) Why have we yet to use it? There's been a few cases already, methinks.
[19:58:18] <KrytenKoro> (1) personal attacks
[19:58:33] <KrytenKoro> (2) the attackers are supposed to, theoretically
[19:58:47] <KrytenKoro> (3) Roxas is trying to, but Oavatos apparently doesn't care
[19:58:52] <KrytenKoro> , and that's part of the question
[19:59:34] <KrytenKoro> what do we do if not both people want to do?
[20:00:12] <DoorToNothing> ahh.
[20:00:15] <DoorToNothing> That's a problem indeed.
[20:01:45] <DoorToNothing> Hm.
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[20:02:08] <DoorToNothing> Let me ask this before I say my opinion so that I can clarify something,
[20:02:17] <DoorToNothing> The purpose of the Heartless Manufactory is to _______________________________________.
[20:04:11] <DoorToNothing> KrytenKoro
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[20:06:48] <KrytenKoro> get users with issues with each other to work together so that they understand the other users are indeed useful
[20:10:17] <Asorailahd> Yes, but
[20:10:29] <Asorailahd> I really don't it's needed for me and Roxas to work together
[20:10:43] <Asorailahd> We've already apologized to one another
[20:11:13] <KrytenKoro> also, workhorsing
[20:11:19] <KrytenKoro> lovely, lovely workhorsing
[20:11:56] <Asorailahd> I'm guessing that workhorsing has to do something with mainspace editing, and whatnot.
[20:13:52] <KrytenKoro> yes
[20:14:04] <KrytenKoro> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft_horse
[20:14:27] <KrytenKoro> specifically: "Feeding, caring for and shoeing a 2,000 lb (910 kg) purebred draft is costly. The draft horse’s metabolism is often similar to that of ponies in that Draft horses have lower needs per bodyweight than light horse breeds, but because of their size, most are fed a significant amount of feed and hay per day. A grain feeding of only .3% of body weight is all drafts need.[2] Drafts not subjected to extreme en
[20:15:01] <KrytenKoro> anyway
[20:15:40] <KrytenKoro> there was some discussion yesterday about upping the penalty of personal attacks, possibly to a temp block for each offense
[20:16:06] <KrytenKoro> they were very adamant about a "HM or block" type of stance
[20:16:28] <KrytenKoro> now, in my mind, that is something that absolutely needs community discussion, either here or in a forum
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[20:17:08] <KrytenKoro> I'm not really a people guy, so I'll profess ignorance of the effects in action, but it seems to me that this could drive away editors
[20:17:34] <KrytenKoro> though, right now we have the opposite extreme, of people with PA warnings not really caring because there's no immediate threat of a block
[20:17:59] <KrytenKoro> so, editors who deal with other editors a lot: what do you think?
[20:19:15] <Asorailahd> Eh..
[20:28:26] <DoorToNothing> So sorry.
[20:28:29] <DoorToNothing> I have to leave.
[20:28:33] <DoorToNothing> Really really sorry.
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[20:35:29] <KrytenKoro> anyone?
[20:36:36] <Xion4ever> What matter are we on now, Kryten?
[20:39:02] <DoctorReeves> Welcome back
[20:39:06] <KrytenKoro> [20:16] <KrytenKoro> there was some discussion yesterday about upping the penalty of personal attacks, possibly to a temp block for each offense [20:16] <KrytenKoro> they were very adamant about a "HM or block" type of stance [20:16] <KrytenKoro> now, in my mind, that is something that absolutely needs community discussion, either here or in a forum [20:17] == Tabbeh [~ASTOS@174.62.74.153] has joined #KHWiki-noticeboard
[20:39:12] <KrytenKoro> effects in action, but it seems to me that this could drive away editors [20:18] <KrytenKoro> though, right now we have the opposite extreme, of people with PA warnings not really caring because there's no immediate threat of a block [20:18] <KrytenKoro> so, editors who deal with other editors a lot: what do you think?
[20:41:32] <Xion4ever> To be frank, last night was choas...I don't believe everyone was thinking with clear heads.
[20:41:55] <Xion4ever> If an attack gets too vicious or uncalled for then yes, by all means, ban the jerk.
[20:42:38] <Xion4ever> But if it's a argument that appears from no where, surely there must be a better way.
[20:44:04] <Xion4ever> If we ban/block people for every slanderous thing they say, be it on here or the Wiki, then we're just being jerks.
[20:44:30] <DoctorReeves> I agree with Xion.
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[20:46:26] <Xion4ever> Don't think I'm playing devil's advocate, I just don't see a reason in being strict disciplinarian for minor disputes.
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[20:47:16] <Reeves|AFK> I think that it should be up to the people in question to work it out.
[20:47:44] <Reeves|AFK> As long as it isn't like an edit war or something else that directly harms the wiki, the admins shouldn't get involved.
[20:47:48] <Reeves|AFK> Unless it's REALLY bad.
[20:48:25] <Xion4ever> On that note: if there's a dispute and it looks like no one is calming down/stepping in, then staff should get involved.
[20:48:26] <Reeves|AFK> I've gotten into some qualms with RoxasXIIILK before, and we were able to work it out.
[20:48:35] <Reeves|AFK> Yes.
[20:48:46] <KrytenKoro> mkay
[20:48:57] <Xion4ever> But then again, staff can get involved without using their position: being a user. Remember: staff members are users too.
[20:49:12] <KrytenKoro> rogjt
[20:49:14] <KrytenKoro> right
[20:49:22] <KrytenKoro> okay, next thing: audit progress
[20:52:05] <KrytenKoro> what is it?
[20:52:38] <Xion4ever> Audit? You mean with the old Wiki?
[20:53:51] <KrytenKoro> yonder new one, but yes
[20:54:13] <Xion4ever> No idea what our status is on that...maggosh?
[20:59:23] <Crono|Away> Whoa
[20:59:30] <Crono|Away> I missed the Roundtable?
[20:59:35] <Crono|Away> Well, I've logged it, so.. yeah.
[20:59:41] <maggosh> You were here?
[20:59:42] <Xion4ever> It's still going on.
[20:59:43] <Crono|Away> Still on? Or should I log it?
[20:59:46] <Crono|Away> Oh, okay.
[20:59:58] <maggosh> What status again?
[21:00:27] <Xion4ever> [20:49] <KrytenKoro> okay, next thing: audit progress [20:52] <Xion4ever> Audit? You mean with the old Wiki? [20:54] <KrytenKoro> yonder new one, but yes
[21:00:55] <maggosh> Oh.
[21:01:40] <maggosh> Well, the discussion is still going on.
[21:01:45] <Crono|Away> We're still doing this?
[21:01:51] <Crono|Away> I thought we had all the audits done.
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[21:03:00] <Xion4ever> Crap, gotta go.
[21:03:23] <Xion4ever> If anyone needs me, just Facebook/e-mail me.
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[21:04:04] <SilverCrono> ;-;
[21:05:12] <KrytenKoro> okay, so, what still needs to be done with the audit?
[21:05:18] <KrytenKoro> is anybody handling that right now?
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[21:24:16] <KrytenKoro> nobody?
[21:25:26] <maggosh> Well, I can tell you not me.
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[21:28:16] <SilverCrono> I'm not.
[21:28:21] <SilverCrono> Hey T_I
[21:28:34] <KRCCFNF> Hey Silva
[21:28:46] <KrytenKoro> so, yeah
[21:28:47] <KRCCFNF> REEVES!  COME BACK!
[21:28:52] <KrytenKoro> one of us should get on that
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[21:33:38] <SilverCrono> Uh.. maybe a new forum, KKoro?
[21:33:41] <SilverCrono> Or bump the old one?
[21:33:57] <SilverCrono> And specify what needs to be done, because I'll be willing to do it if I know what is left
[21:34:16] <KRCCFNF> What must be done, if I may ask?
[21:35:11] <maggosh> Theaudit.
[21:35:15] <SilverCrono> -_-
[21:35:16] <maggosh> *The audit.
[21:35:58] <Asif> Well, we're almost done with mainspace, right?
[21:36:25] <Asif> Now we just need to finish images, cards...
[21:36:56] <SilverCrono> Cards don't need audit
[21:37:00] <SilverCrono> Nobody edits them (sadly)
[21:37:11] <SilverCrono> And I'm 100% sure they haven't been touched since the split
[21:37:24] <Asif> Gotcha.
[21:38:15] <Asif> And I'm pretty sure we don't need to audit the userspace either.
[21:38:37] <Asif> Not that it's not been touched, but it gets changed a lot.
[21:39:20] <KRCCFNF> That would be up to individual users.
[21:39:21] <maggosh> Yeah, it's under the user's jurisdiction.
[21:39:32] <maggosh> If they want to change their pages, it's up to them.
[21:39:50] <KRCCFNF> Wait... was there a roundtable yesterday?
[21:40:34] <SilverCrono> its today.
[21:40:36] <SilverCrono> still goin' on.
[21:40:47] <Asif> Sorry I missed so much of it.
[21:40:49] <KRCCFNF> Oh...
[21:40:58] <KRCCFNF> I was at a concert...
[21:41:05] <KRCCFNF> Well, I'm here now.
[21:41:52] <KRCCFNF> I noticed ENX messaged Ninja saying that the staff wished to discuss what may be allowed on userpages.  Did you guys decide anything?
[21:43:09] <SilverCrono> I was away for 98% of it.
[21:43:15] <SilverCrono> But KVIrc logs, so I have logs for it.
[21:43:21] <SilverCrono> Once KKoro says its done, I'll post 'em.
[21:43:34] <SilverCrono> KrytenKoro should have info on what happened
[21:43:35] <Asif> Please do.
[21:46:46] <KrytenKoro> the audit is not just with stuff touched since the split
[21:46:53] <KrytenKoro> I already handled everything touched since the split
[21:47:18] <KrytenKoro> however, the data-dump that wikia gave us was buggy, with some deletions from months ago being brought back, and some moves and stuff not going through
[21:47:34] <KrytenKoro> the point of the audit is to catch the insidious stuff like that
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[21:51:36] <T_I|Darkspore_> Can some one kick my ghost?
[21:51:39] <T_I|Darkspore_> *someone
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[21:51:59] <maggosh> There you go.
[21:52:03] <T_I|Darkspore_> Thanks!
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[21:57:48] <T_I|DarkSpore> I hope to read the logs soon.
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[21:58:39] <Asif> Same here.
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[22:16:10] <ErryK>  O_O Darkspore is out?
[22:19:09] <KrytenKoro> okay, so
[22:19:17] <KrytenKoro> what's going on, then?
[22:19:19] <KrytenKoro> about the audit
[22:19:26] <KrytenKoro> we really need someone to take a look at that
[22:23:03] <KrytenKoro> seriously guys
[22:27:14] <KrytenKoro> gotdammit somebody reply this is pissing me off
[22:34:28] <KrytenKoro> Asorailahd Doorsey|AWAY ErryK maggosh Mikazuki)Neko Reeves|AFK SDC|OblivionMod SilverCrono Sove PAY ATTENTION WE ARE HAVING A MEETING YOU FUCKERS
[22:34:39] <Sove> You're having a meeting at a very unpleasant time
[22:34:59] <Sove> I'm very tired
[22:34:59] <Sove> It's 5:35AM
[22:35:00] <Sove> -_-
[22:35:00] <ErryK> 5:35am, not a good time.
[22:35:01] <KrytenKoro> we've been trying to have it since noon, and nobody's been payign any gotdamn attention
[22:35:10] <Mikazuki_Neko> Theres a meeting?
[22:35:18] <KrytenKoro> we would have been done a long time ago if any of you would freaking respond to the discussion
[22:35:32] <Sove> Kryten, my attention gets distracted by a single noise
[22:35:38] <maggosh> God damn...
[22:35:46] <KrytenKoro> we've been stalled on the audit question for three hours now
[22:36:08] <SilverCrono> I'm back
[22:36:11] <SilverCrono> Geez, Kryten
[22:36:12] <maggosh> I already tossed my two bits; I'm not doing it.
[22:36:13] <SilverCrono> Calm yo' shit
[22:36:17] <SilverCrono> I was eating
[22:36:32] <SilverCrono> And I have no idea wtf is going on with the audit.
[22:36:43] <SilverCrono> I audit'd about 130 images a while back and haven't touched it since.
[22:36:46] <ErryK> Neither do I.
[22:36:54] <KrytenKoro> well then we need to assign someone to actually take a look at it and see what needs doing
[22:37:06] <KrytenKoro> I am in the middle of looking for a job, I don't have time to
[22:37:09] <maggosh> So am I.
[22:40:11] <KrytenKoro> fine
[22:40:26] <KrytenKoro> DTN, you get to do it
[22:41:16] <KrytenKoro> Last order of business: Avatar Menu
[22:41:32] <KrytenKoro> who here has Re:coded, besides Erry and me
[22:41:43] <SilverCrono> I lent it to a friend
[22:41:48] <SilverCrono> So yeah, can't help you there
[22:42:00] <maggosh> I never got it.
[22:50:09] <Sove> Meeting or not, I'm going to bed now
[22:50:13] <Sove> Sooo tired
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[23:02:40] <KrytenKoro> fine
[23:02:42] <KrytenKoro> g'night, everyone
[23:02:50] <Asorailahd> G'night.
[23:03:12] <maggosh> Night.
[23:15:22] <KrytenKoro> oh, wait
[23:15:29] <KrytenKoro> we need to make monaco the default skin for the wiki
[23:15:46] <KrytenKoro> also, maggosh, you need to make sure that when the wiki changes its name, it does it at the base level
[23:16:05] <KrytenKoro> you'll have to talk to wikia - your project pages should end up renamed with teh "The Keyhole:" prefix
[23:16:08] <maggosh> Define "base level".
[23:16:25] <KrytenKoro> like, Halopedia changed its name to "Halo Nation" on all their accessible files
[23:16:41] <KrytenKoro> but the site is still named "Halopedia, powered by wikia", because that's how wikia has it on their servers
[23:17:04] <KrytenKoro> I'd say something like "The Keyhole, a Kingdom Hearts Wiki"
[23:17:09] <KrytenKoro> or possibly just "The Keyhole"
[23:17:16] <maggosh> How would I go about this?
[23:21:11] <KrytenKoro> talk to sannse or other wikia staff, I think
[23:21:26] <KrytenKoro> I'm going to go grab dinner, I'll be back in a bit
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[00:07:14] <Doorsey|AWAY> OKAY.
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[00:30:09] <KKoro|Away> anyway
[00:30:18] <KKoro|Away> DTN, you gotta work on the Challenge Codes, too
[00:30:26] <KKoro|Away> I should have some time to finish the shoes tomorrow
[00:30:41] <KKoro|Away> but then it's all up to you, ENX, and Shard for the Scratch Cards
[00:30:49] <DoorToNothing> Yessir!
[00:30:55] <DoorToNothing> What of the Scratch Cards?
[00:36:08] <KKoro|Away> Shard is handling it, last I checked
[00:36:26] <KKoro|Away> oh, and also, we all decided you are responsible for assessing how close we are to done with the audit, and making sure it gets completed
[00:36:46] <DoorToNothing> So, I just go through the Avatar Sector and document what I get after each floor completed?
[00:39:10] <KKoro|Away> No
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[00:39:27] <KKoro|Away> Okay
[00:39:33] <KKoro|Away> when you go into Tag Mode, right?
[00:39:44] <KKoro|Away> It lists a number of Challenges which you can choose to broadcast,
[00:39:48] <KKoro|Away> These are Challenge Codes
[00:39:51] <KKoro|Away> you have 3 right now
[00:40:04] <KKoro|Away> you need to check which ones you get after beating floors
[00:46:04] <DoorToNothing> Okay.
[00:46:17] <DoorToNothing> So they won't change, I just get new additions to what I already have?
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[00:58:35] <KKoro|Away> oh, sorry
[00:58:35] <KKoro|Away> yes
[00:58:39] <KKoro|Away> you get more and more
[00:58:40] <KKoro|Away> up to 32
[01:21:53] <KKoro|Away> hokay
[01:26:25] <DoorToNothing> Alright, Wii is system updating.
[01:26:28] <DoorToNothing> Then it's all good.
[01:27:00] <maggosh> Did you get yours at a PetsMart?
[01:29:10] <DoorToNothing> Nope.
[01:29:28] <maggosh> I know someone who did.
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[01:36:17] <KKoro|Away> ah
[01:36:23] <KKoro|Away> well, I want to sleep, badly
[01:36:32] <KKoro|Away> I'll work on the Shoes tomorrow
[01:36:44] <DoorToNothing> Cool.
[01:36:48] <KKoro|Away> and can someone who was here the whole time post the logs for tonight on the roundtable page?
[01:37:09] <KKoro|Away> preferably with a summary of all the points we hit
[01:37:09] <KKoro|Away> remember - monaco needs to be made default skin
[01:38:02] <maggosh> What's the status on that?
[01:39:02] <Crono|Writing> I was here
[01:39:06] <Crono|Writing> I'll post the logs in a minute
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