Talk:Marluxia

Flowers

I've heard a lot of debate over whether they're Cherry-Blossom petals or if they're Pink Hawthorn petals. Here are the arguments I've heard:

Cherry-blossoms are a Japanese symbol of death, and Mar's title is the Graceful assassin.

Pink hawthorn, because of the shape of the petals as seen in KH RE: CoM. Furthermore, the Scientific name for the specific plant is Crataegus Lumaria, Lumaria also being the "Reverse-Anangrammed" version of the name "Marluxia"

So, Which is it? Cherry-Blossom or Pink Hawthorn?97.90.18.64 03:06, October 6, 2010 (UTC)Empty-Sentiment

Angel of death?

I'm concerned about calling the angelic Nobody or machine or whatever that Marluxia is combined with for his final battle an "Angel of Death". It seems very romanticized and interpretive. Is this how it's actually officially described and I just haven't seen it? Scottch 04:42, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

--The Nobody that Marluxia is riding was called the "Phantom" in an interview I read once, let me go try and dig it up... But it does fit in in both it's appearence and Marluxia's element. I mean, no offense to who wrote it, but it looks nothing like a machine...

-I read an interview as well saying that the Nobody that Marluxia rode was known as Spectre. This could just be a translation error between the Japanese version to the American. Phantom and Spectre mean the same thing.

Element

While some people say his element is death, others says its flowers. Isn't there a definite answer in the Proof of existense though? can someone check cause I can't.XienZo 00:42, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Here you go. 花 = hana = Flower. --Hecko X 20:52, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

-Marluxia's element is a very debatable topic. His tile in the Proof of Existence features his trademark pink scythe "Full Bloom" and the words Graceful Assassin. The title Graceful Assassin could mean two elements. "Graceful" infers to Flowers, while "Assassin" infers to death. This is made even more apparent with Marluxia's scythe. Obviously a scythe usually signifies death because of its relation to the Grim Reaper. However the scythe is colored pink and green like a flower's blossom and stem. These factors could all mean that Marluxia has almost a dual element-Flower and Death----Final 13

I think his element is most Death. Even if he uses blossoms, it can represent the fact of flowers being short-lived.--Unbirth 23:00, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

That's the symbolism, yes, but it's outright identified as "flower" and that's what we're going to use.—Urutapu 00:10, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Twoface13 - There's someone with a "key" -- the key to our survival. TALK - No... They'll pay for this! Death? Come on people! When he appears, flower petals come. If somehow bones start appearing around him, take a picture and show us.

Flowers are used as death symbols (in Japan, if nowhere else).—Urutapu 05:31, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Come to think of it Urutapu... some places too ! ^_^ Literary works also do cite flowers as death symbols (take Virginia Woolf's "Mrs Dalloway" for example. The very sight of flowers reminds Dalloway of death. Over here, ethnic Malay culture has it that when someone dies, rose water is sprinkled on the graves. Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne

HeartlessSlayer - You see, I want to help them because...because...well, they need us. TALK - *&&X% I remember talking about this to a friend of mine a while back lol. To be honest, saying that Marluxia weilds the element of "flowers" seems kinda fruity for a guy like him. But I think in a away, it would be more accurate if the element was labeled nature. Think about it, not only does he use rose petals as little knives but also wields them in wind storms, which is also an element of nature. and since most of the elements used in the KH series are also some of the member's other powers, cure can also be realted to nature. But that's just what I think.

Sounds plausible, but nature's quite a wide definition if you ask me....... Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne

I also agree with using nature as his element. After all, flowers signify life, and his scythe signifies death, and nature is life and death. 68.97.215.229 23:06, 7 May 2009 (UTC)Morghman

Er, we're not going to change it...Ultimania says "flower," outright. There's no way to debate that. It's not like the Japanese word has any other meaning.—Urutapu 04:32, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

You might want to provide the Ultimania screenshot on his element. ^BLUER一番 04:38, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Flashpenny - You'll wear the face of despair. TALK - Where's the fun in this? His element is flowers. First off death is a state of life (or lack thereof), not an element. Wind is an element. Fire is an element. Water is an element. Hell, even space is an element. Death is not an element. Secondly if death was Marluxia's element, there would be no point in fighting him. He'd just suck the life out of Sora. However in battle Marluxia uses flowers and often sending them volleying at such high speeds that its damaging. The whole Grim Reaper thing was just meant to make him more of a villain. After all, every good villain needs a motif. Ansem has that Guardian thing, Darth Vader has the heavy breathing and Hannibal Lecter has the quid pro quo games.

I think that is element should be called plants or greenery because it just seems odd to call his element flowers.

We don't debate this. His element is referred to in all official media, such as the Journal entries, as "Flower". We don't pick a new name just because we think it'll sound better; this is a fact-based wiki. Also, sign your comments on talk pages with 4 tildes like this: ~~~~ --Lapis ofthe Night 20:12, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Pronunciation

How exactly do you pronounce Marluxia's name? I always thought it was "Mar-luk-sia" but I've heard it pronounced "Mar-lu-sha" by someone and that confuses me. Olette Kitty 19:30, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

"Mar-lu-sha" is how it's properly pronounced in Japanese. "X" isn't part of the Japanese language, and so "s" sounds are often used in its place. My last name, for example, has an "x" in it, but I use "su" when writing it in katakana. There is no official English pronounciation that I know of, so we may yet be calling him something more akin to what you have if one makes its way over here. BebopKate 20:36, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, hopefully when Re:Com makes it to the US on december 2, we'll find out how his name is really pronounced. Olette Kitty 20:16, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Yip in the Re:Com (American Version atleast) Heis refered to as Mar-Lu-Sha, i had always said Mar-Lux-Ia, but BebopKate is right about "X" in the Japanese Language.

I always thought Mar-luk-sia sounded better than Mar-lu-sha but if that is the way you pronounce it then that is fine with me.Pizzahut101 00:40, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

It should be added in the article. You hear Axel pronounce it many times in Re: Chain of Memories. (Bananaphone1996 03:20, April 14, 2010 (UTC))

We know how it's pronounced, but I'm against putting a pronunciation in the actual article. It just seems unprofessional. There's also the fact that the Romaji is basically a pronunciation key already. That's how I figured out how his name (and Xion's for that matter) was pronounced. Plus, anyone who's curious could just look on this page and see that "So it IS Mar-lu-sha" section below.--Lapis ofthe Night 03:25, April 14, 2010 (UTC)

Unlock puewease?

I really don't know what's up, but it might be nice to unlock this page so I can make a few worthwhile edits, yah? If you really need to know, it's editing out some unnecessary stuff (reference to Grim Reaper....), battle quotes, VA, stuff like that. Yeah? OG-Loc 06:44, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Change in sex

Was a specific reason given for the change in Marluxia's sex? 71.99.96.174 19:47, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Don't think so. Nomura probably just decided that Marluxia would be better as a male. LapisScarab 02:14, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

-It is stated in the trivia section of Marluxia's page in KHwiki that Nomura didn't like the idea of having the lone female members (this is considering the fact that Marluxia would be female)as the rebels in Chain of Memories. It was easier to change her into a man, however the name Marluxia stuck.----Final 13

Mar-lu-sha!? They were right!

There is a girl in my high school who keeps insisting that Marluxia is pronounced Marlusha, and I just wanted to know if it was true...and it is. The japanese prononce the 's' instead of the 'x' thats completely understandable. But I don't care, it will always be 'Mar-lux-ia' to me! Thanks.

Should have been a girl...

After the revelation that Marluxia IS pronounced Marlusha, me and a friend of mine have decided Nomura-sama should have kept Marluxia a girl character. I mean, the combination of the flowers, the pink, and now the name just SCREAMS girl, don't you think? I might have had more respect for him as a boss and enemy character if he had been female. Now I can't even say his NAME without giggling. Sweet Nightmare 09:47, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

No, I dissagree. I see no reason he couldn't be a guy. The Dark Fiddler 14:12, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

He WAS supposed to be a girl. However, Nomura realized that it would mean that the traitors to the Organization would both be the only female members, which would have bad implications. XienZo 18:28, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

xNaminéx - 大キライだけど好き! TALK - I am...glad. :::I think it was a dumb move changing Marluxia into a male. I don't believe in gender stereotypes or anything, I just think the whole concept of a "Gracfu Assassin" would be way more suited with a female character. Then agian, I see why Nomura changed it. The only 2 female Organization members (know at the time) being traitors does sound pretty sexist.

I Agree with you there, Teh Organisation (While i love all memebers) Really Needed more Female ones, and it sounds like a good team to me, Marluxia the Graceful Assasain & Larxene The Savage Nymph. I Agreed also with the change so the only two females being traitors, that wouldnt look good

I guess it does sound sexist that the females of the Organization were the ones that rebelled. It's like, "I'm sick of all this testosterone!" But I think that Marluxia would be much better as a girl since it means that the females are individuals and could take care of themselves (if it wasn't for Sora, but then they're all gone anyway). I wonder if they could retcon Marluxia? Like he had Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome (like Sadako Yamamura of "Ring" fame) or his other lived as a girl (like Nuriko from Fushigi Yugi/Curious Play). Far-fetched, but I could dream, right? HealerSpirit 07:11, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Firaga44 - Everyone's favorite anime nerd is back and kicking!Well not everyone's favorite but you people get the idea >.< TALK - All i hear during that cutscene blah blah blah. well you know what's weird i seriously thought he was a girl when i saw him

NinjaSheik - All of this might have started with a lie...But I'm really am glad that I could meet you... TALK - One day, the light-it will be ours, and it will bring us together. Til then, I'll be in your heart... You guys haven't heard yet? The only reason Marluxia was changed into a male is because Tetsuya Nomura had originally planned for Marluxia to be a female so that Larxene wouldn't be the only one. However, he concluded that Xemnas would not want to put a female in charge of Castle Oblivion, so decided to make Marluxia a male instead. Hence Marluxia's pink hair and flower power. I guess that means Xemnas is a sexist and a jerk! He's a sexist jerk! Believe it! Anyway, who cares if Marluxia looks like a girl? I like how he is right now. I kinda like him...

LotsoBearLover - Welcome to sunnyside! TALK - You've got a playdate with destiny!" xemnas is a sexist?

Firaga44 - Everyone's favorite anime nerd is back and kicking!Well not everyone's favorite but you people get the idea >.< TALK - All i hear during that cutscene blah blah blah. it is a possiblity xemnas isn't actually the nicest person in kingdom hearts

PrincessAndie8thprincessofheart - I'm the only one! TALK - Woo hoo hoo hoo! *adding to Firaga's gender confusion story* My mom thought Axel was a girl when she first saw him. She's like: "Who's that girl?" while I was playing Re: CoM and I thought she meant Larxene and then she's like: "no the red haired one" And I started laughing and told her Axel was a dude. It was classic.

Tinkerbell22 - Don't be fooled, Ven TALK - A heart of pure light... My friend thought Marluxia was a girl. He was like "Who's that cute girl?" then I told him Marluxia was a guy. You should have seen his face it was hilarious.

If they only reason he was changed to a male is because they didn't want a female as the main traitor, then why not just make Axel or Vexen the main villian? (Bananaphone1996 04:44, April 22, 2010 (UTC))

my friend thought that axel,vexen,demyx,zexion,marluxia and roxas were girls -13sonicstar-

Pokhmon - I'm so FLATTERED! TALK - But you're TOO LATE! — 18:53, January 31, 2010 (UTC) all signs say marluxia is gay

Evnyofdeath - The existence known as Terra will soon disappear... TALK - Show me your strength! - 22:31, May 4, 2010 (UTC) Umm.....the only places Marluxia is shown gay are in fanfictions and stuff like that. He is shown in the actually series to be almost as emotionless as Xemnas, meaning he CAN'T be gay Pokhmon. As it has already been said, just because he has pink hair and the power of NATURE(not flowers) he is not gay.

Actually, Marluxia of all of them shows the greatest indication of being straight - especially when you take into consideration Axel's comments about him in the manga, after Larxene dies: ("What are you going to do with all your time, now that Larxene is gone?"), not to mention his general attitude towards her. I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that they're an item, and I wouldn't put it past Squeenix and Nomura to make the most "obviously" gay character straight. 66.162.164.34 21:38, June 10, 2010 (UTC)butterflyeffext

I disagree I respect any guy that has pink hair and can still kick ass. He takes 'tough guys wear pink' to a whole new level.--To lose and claim anew or claim anew only to lose 06:46, January 10, 2011 (UTC) theGracefulAssassin

Either way, you guys should be careful, you could offend gay people on this wiki. Surely there's a gay person on this wiki somewhere [edit]AlVan 13:04, 24 March 2011 (EDT)AlVan

Hair..

xNaminéx - 大キライだけど好き! TALK - I am...glad. Is it just me being weird or is Marluxia's hair supposed to resemble flower petals? Also Larxene's seems a bit lightning/thunder-themed, and Axel's seems to look like fire. But why just these three? Because they are the first three intrdused in the series? I'm gonna add this to their trivia you can take it off if you don't like it...

Sounds fair, itll probally be taken down later by someone who disagrees. To me they really do show that, Xaldins dreadlocks to me always showed his Lances but no one else really seems to share this trend

Firaga44 - Everyone's favorite anime nerd is back and kicking!Well not everyone's favorite but you people get the idea >.< TALK - All i hear during that cutscene blah blah blah. and wouldn't lexaeus' brown hair be a reference to earth

Pokhmon - I'm so FLATTERED! TALK - But you're TOO LATE! — 18:57, January 31, 2010 (UTC) and luxords hair is white and the colour silver often reprisents time

Evnyofdeath - The existence known as Terra will soon disappear... TALK - Show me your strength! - 22:33, May 4, 2010 (UTC) But Luxord's hair isn't white, its blonde.

Somebody Name

Just something I noticed, there is a type of plant called Lumaria, a plants website saying it's a kind of hawthorn. Add the 'X', jumble up the letters, and that spells Marluxia for you, not to mention Marluxia's element is flowers/nature.

xNaminéx - 大キライだけど好き! TALK - I am...glad. That's very likely and very unlikely. But until it's officially revealed you'll always get the same response. But I had a thought that I wanna get out. It's really dumb but I'll put it out there anyway. Nomura said that Marluxia was orginally a female character, and he changed that, but he kept the whole pink hair flower-using concept. Do you think it was some sort of riddle saying that Marluxia's "somebody" is female? I realize it's stupid but I was bored so i put it up.

That wouldn't be totally insane if his somebody was a girl, the only Nobodies we've seen with somebodies are the six apprentices and Sora, the remaining members are a peculiar mystery...

When it comes to name theories, somones gotta be right. Myself 123 22:53, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

ShadowXemnas - Nothingness...is...ETERNAL!!! TALK - Turn to Darkness! That definitly sounds logical. I'll put it in the Trivia section, bujt you can take it down later if you want.

Ita IMPOSSIBLE for his somebod to be girl because hes a BOY!He has his originals persons body and Soul.Meaning he was orginally a girl he BE A GIRL.Because he would have a girl body duh.But obviously his body is a boys meaning he was a boy.Thats compltely stupid to say he couldve been a girl.{{SUBST:User:Lssj4/sig2}} 15:46, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

Journal Entries

Next time, before altering journal entries, can everyone please put it in the discussion page so that there'd be no more anomalies ? Guardian Soul meticulously wrote in the Journal entries but someone went and edited them, and since I don't have the English version of Re:Chain with me, I'm not even sure if it's right. Talk page first, don't put it in the article. Do I make myself clear ? There are some things even the stars cannot tell me. • TroisNyxÉtienne

Guardian Soul Talk. — Don't I even warrant a hello? It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - {{{time}}} I really hope that nobody is messing with all of those entries, it took me forever to get everything down. Perhaps we should write on the MoS that all journal entries aren't to be messed with? At least until the new games are out. If we have to go over them all once more we can work on confirming that everything is correct.

I'll get it noted. Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne

358/2 Days

Eternal Nothingness XIII - You have to be strong. Strength of heart will carry you through the hardest of trials. TALK - What I do, I do for friendship. Two questions - 1 : Did we scrap the Marluxia section about manga? Should I add one? and 2 : I have a gameplay video of Marluxia from Days should I add it? I'll need to be re-taught how to add the "Video Template", or whatever it's called.

something weird

Firaga44 - Dissidia is awesome! TALK - I'll be playing crisis core over there*points to a corner*. something weird i figured out unknown has marluxia pretty early when i red this when i remember when sora hit him there were petals and marluxia's power is flowers

Um, mind running that by me again? it seems all your thoughts are running into one another there.;)Brago-77 18:10, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

I think he's saying he just figured out that the COM's Enigmatic Man is Marluxia. ...which was always obvious.—Urutapu 20:28, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

LotsoBearLover - Welcome to sunnyside! TALK - You've got a playdate with destiny!" That's a girl, Urtarpu, Sheesh -__-

Wasn't his name Lumaria? I got it off YouTube

No. That is speculation. Randomnessity Looks like you're already prepared.

Sub-headings?

Does anyone think that they are unnecessary? I mean: "Rebellion against the Organization", "Into Oblivion", does anyone think that they should be removed? --The Yoshiman 97 01:06, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Fourth wall

Bananaphone1996 - Cause I'm a gamblin' bogeyman, although I don't play fair! TALK - Look's like it's Oogie's turn to boogie now! Isn't Marluxia the third character to break the fourth wall. He stated that something would be an unfortunate denoument. Doesn't denoument mean the end of a play or fictional story? Cause that would imply that he was saying that would be an unfortunate end to this video game.

I think it was talking about his plan to take over the Organization.--NinjaSheik 04:12, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Trivia

In Marluxia's trivia it says he, Xemnas and Roxas were in cg, but I don't remember ever seeing Xemnas in cg, so when was that?

Deep Dive.Glorious CHAOS! 17:09, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Voice Actor

I have lots of infomation with many serieses, and did you know that Marluxia's English voice actor (for Re:COM and Days) also voiced Basch in Final Fantasy XII? (It looks like the Roselia-like fem-boy's voice actor also voiced a Lucario-like power-man!) It's very weard in many, many different ways, y'know! (Also, another conection with voice acting is that both the English and Japanese voice actors of Captain Jack Sparrow have voiced Final Fantasy characters; The English one voiced Tidus (in Final Fantasy X), while the Japanese one voiced Balthier (in Final Fantasy XII). Also, Vivi's Japanese voice actress voiced Satoshi's Pikachu in the Pokémon series)! UxieLover1994 03:31, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

What freaks me out most is that Marluxia's voice actor also voiced Bloo in the cartoon network series "Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends" ~Xena

Going back to Pokémon... OMG RLY??? NO WAY!!!! Pikachu and Vivi? Sounds like Vivi is a Japanese Pokémon trainer. LOL LOL LOL AxelsWifeVIII leiks Axekipz! (Axel and Mudkipz) 14:27, 18 June 2011 (EDT)

Pronunciation

Lapidothtill - What sound does an Arctic Tern make, Col? TALK - BACKSTREET BOYS? This is an interesting thought (or at least I think so) has anyone ever brought up the idea of an English pronunciation to go along with every character? Or does the romanji just serve that purpose? Because Marluxia is pronounced Mar-loo-sha in English, and I think it would be beneficial to the new-to-kingdom hearts people to know how to say the character's names. Of course we wouldn't put Mar-loo-sha in the box, but rather, use the IPA style of typing a pronunciation...

I think at least in instances like this where the romanji doesn't reflect the proper english pronuciation (marusha excludes the l sound) we should put it somewhere. --Evnyofdeath 18:17, October 19, 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. Personally I think a pronunciation should follow the Romanji in the character info and/or in the first paragraph along with the romanji. Lapidothtill 18:21, October 19, 2010 (UTC)

Maa-ruu-shaa equates to Mar-loo-sha. maggosh 18:49, October 19, 2010 (UTC)

I know, but I was wanting some English pronunciations for new-comers. But, if it's unnecessary then never mind. Lapidothtill 18:52, October 19, 2010 (UTC)

Cherry Blossoms?

The petals are RED, he's even seen holding a rose in the official manga! Yes the explanation for the Sakura are logical, but think about it, when everyone's all elegant and crap in anime and most japanese things or anything else for that matter, there's roses. Look fangirls, I know you want to Japanify the living hell out of this English wiki, but they're rose petals.-.-

...they are VERY pink."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 23:54, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

They are severely pink. And don't you "fangirl" us, anon. We don't shit around with this stuff. If you want there to be a change, give us a source. One other than "He's holding a rose in the manga." --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 00:14, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

Lord of the Castle?

This might be unnecesary, but I found it worth asking for it. The trivia says that all of his battle themes are named after the whole concept of Marluxia, including "Lord of the Castle" as his posicion in Castle Oblivion. I disagree with the statement, as, now when know the origins of the Castle, that would make Aqua, or Eraqus "lords" of the Castle. So, I propose to change it to somenthing around the lines of "Finally, "Lord of The Castle" refers to the title Xemnas gave him inside Castle Oblivion" Any objections?--Dark-EnigmaXIII 00:57, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

It's not really a title; it's more of just a role that he fills while they're stationed there. --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 03:07, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

Bug Thingy

Y'all seeing this? I made my browser wider but it still didnt change the problem. ANX219 22:11, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

What is that? It look like you're trying to put in on a phone. RikutheBloody 22:20, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Lauriam

His real name has been revealed in UX.--68.110.185.16 23:40, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

While it is very likely, it hasn't been officially confirmed it is Marluxia's original self. TheSilentHero 09:02, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

To clarify: we've had Nomura fuck us on this kind of thing before, so for the moment we are being cautious until he spells it out in black and white."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 17:09, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

You know, I keep wondering why they won't admit Lucy (My nickname for Marluxia) here used to be Lauriam. CleffaGirl173 (talk) 14:39, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Marluxia planned as female

It seems to be common knowledge that Marluxia was originally planned to be female, as stated on the page, but does anyone have a source for this? I've been looking through interviews on KHInsider and KH13, but I can't find anything about it. TheSilentHero 19:10, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

That trivia existed even before I came on as an editor back when the KHWiki was still with FANDOM, so I don't who originally added it. If there's no source, it should be removed.--NinjaSheik 00:58, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

source: [1]. That is if it's considered reliable. - JTD95 (talk) 12:06, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

That's it! Great job finding that. TheSilentHero 12:15, 1 April 2020 (UTC)