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{{EO|time=15:51, August 4, 2010 (UTC)|text=These videos and the information they contain need to be incorporated into the article. I'm gonna revise the article anyways as I go through Project BBS, but I'm not quite sure where to put everything.
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Is this ready to be posted on the page? {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 19:55, 3 October 2015 (UTC)c
Is this ready to be posted on the page? {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 19:55, 3 October 2015 (UTC)c


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::Ooooooooh, that makes sense. What if we got rid of the world column on the ice cream article, and instead turned the ingredient names into anchored links to this article, so that you can click on the ingredient there to find where the prize pod is here?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 14:25, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
::Ooooooooh, that makes sense. What if we got rid of the world column on the ice cream article, and instead turned the ingredient names into anchored links to this article, so that you can click on the ingredient there to find where the prize pod is here?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 14:25, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
Does the table still look cramped? {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 18:35, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Does the table still look cramped? {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 18:35, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
:One thing I definitely wanted to get changed was splitting the ingredient list by character. Would it be possible to revise the table to a multi-cell entry format, similar to [[World Cards]], where instead of three columns for character, location, and ingredients, we had one cell with something like:
{|border=1 cellpadding=2 cellspacing=0 class="sortable" style="background-color:#F0F8FF; text-align:center; font-size:90%" align="center" width=65%
|- bgcolor="#6495ED"
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|width="80%" style="font-size:12px; color:white; text-align:center"|'''Location'''
|-bgcolor="#E6E6FA"
|rowspan=3|[[File:Dwarf Woodlands KHBBS.png|100px|link=Dwarf Woodlands]]<br>'''[[Dwarf Woodlands]]'''
|'''Terra — [[Underground Waterway]]'''<br>On top of the waterfall near the exit to the [[Courtyard]].<br>[[Gaspberry]], [[Merry Mint]]{{FMBbS}}, [[Nutty Nut]]
|-bgcolor="#E6E6FA"
|'''Ventus — [[The Mine]]'''<br>Lit, eastern{{?}} side of room, after defeating [[Monotrucker]]s and [[Red Hot Chili]]s.<br>[[Apple Pie]], [[Merry Mint]]{{FMBbS}}, [[Merry Dairy]]
|-bgcolor="#E6E6FA"
|'''Aqua — [[Flower Glade]]'''<br>West{{?}} of the path to the Courtyard.<br>[[Gaspberry]], [[Merry Mint]]{{FMBbS}}, [[Peach Fantasy]]
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This would make it easier to tell whether you have gotten all the ingredients from a world for the character you are playing as, and reduce having to hop back and forth between pages. Also, reduces the cramp just a little bit more.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 19:18, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
:The ingredients of a world are different for each character? Do we have a list of all these somewhere? {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 20:53, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
::I'm guessing the ingredients for the Ice Cream that activate the exclusive Command Styles are character-exclusive as well. If you want, I can give you the full list of ingredients by character tomorrow. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 22:05, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
:::Here it is:
;Terra
*DW: Gaspberry, Nutty Nut
*CoD: Birthday Cake, Crystal Sugar
*ED: Bijou Bean, Rose Honey
*RG: Nebula Nectar, Rocket Soda, Soy Milk
*DT: Prickle Pepper, Toonbasco
*OC: Nutty Nut, Thundercracker
*DS: Bizarro Bean, Galactic Caramel
*NL: Dancing Lemon, Golden Jam, Whipped Dream
*MA: Dancing Lemon, Open Sesame
;Ventus
*DW: Apple Pie, Merry Dairy
*CoD: Chocolate Valentine, Wedding Cake
*ED: Cherryberry, Forest Muffin, Jumbo Almond
*RG: Moogle Coffee, Rocket Soda, Soy Milk
*DT: Prickle Pepper, Toonbasco
*OC: Cotton Cloudcandy, Thundercracker
*DS: Cream Fluff, Star Syrup
*NL: Dancing Lemon, Honeybunch, Rainbow Syrup
*MA: Dancing Lemon, Open Sesame
;Aqua
*DW: Gaspberry, Peach Fantasy
*CoD: Birthday Cake, Crystal Soda
*ED: Rose Honey, Sky Blue Mousse
*RG: Nebula Nectar, Rocket Soda, Soy Milk
*DT: Prickle Pepper, Toonbasco
*OC: Cotton Cloudcandy, Heroic Orange, Thundercracker
*DS: Balloon Melon, Cream Fluff, Fizzy Tizzy
*NL: Dancing Lemon, Mermaid Salt, Rainbow Syrup
*MA: Dancing Lemon, Open Sesame
:::These are taken from the BBS BradyGames guide. FM ingredients are missing, though. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 18:25, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
::::Everyone has the same FM ingredients in every world (there's only one, shared, new Ice Cream), so that can just be copied from the existing table.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 19:40, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
:::::Is it readable the way I depicted it, with the name, then strategy, then ingredients? Should the strategy perhaps be moved into a separate column to the right, with the hard stats in their own column to the left (still in one cell)?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 19:50, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
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Eternal Nothingness XIII - Terra Master Symbol.png You have to be strong. Strength of heart will carry you through the hardest of trials.
TALK - What I do, I do for friendship. — 15:51, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
TerraCharm.pngThese videos and the information they contain need to be incorporated into the article. I'm gonna revise the article anyways as I go through Project BBS, but I'm not quite sure where to put everything.

<youtube>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MxPzrRxkPI&feature=related</youtube> <youtube>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeb_jd2f2q4&feature=related</youtube>

Thank you. If someone would take the liberty of going through the article and adding information where applicable, I'll go in later when I conquer the Unversed articles and make sure everything's 100%


In Ven's for the Deep Space, it must be the enemy set with the Yellow Mustard. Another Combonation of enemies includes Tank Toppers, and they screw it up

What are you talking about?LapisLazuliScarab21:18, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

Sometimes when you pop into the Durgon Transporter with Ventus, you get a group of Unversed with Tank toppers. If the Tank Toppers show up, then the Prize Pods won't. I forgot to sign it last time, sorry Hyperwre_2.0 17:20, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Draft[edit]

Is this ready to be posted on the page? TheFifteenthMember 19:55, 3 October 2015 (UTC)c

World Character Area Spawn Trigger Ingredients
Dwarf Woodlands
Dwarf Woodlands
Terra Underground Waterway Spawn point on top of a waterfall near the exit to the Courtyard.
Ventus The Mine Lit area far on the right. Defeat the Monotruckers and Red Hot Chilis.
Aqua Flower Glade Area to the left of the path from the Courtyard.
Enchanted Dominion
Enchanted Dominion
Terra Waterside Near the wall of fire at the northernmost part.
Ventus Audience Chamber Columned area to the left of the entrance. If Red Hot Chilis appear, leave the area and return.
Aqua Waterside After exiting the Forest Clearing, in the corner of the cliff on the left side.
Castle of Dreams
Castle of Dreams
Terra Palace Courtyard Go over to the fountain in the center and defeat four Red Hot Chilis. If another four appear, exit the area and come back.
Ventus Mousehole Far end of the area accessible through the hole on top of the end table with a clock in the Wardrobe Room.
Aqua Foyer Underneath the stairs on the left side. If you don't encounter a single Bruiser beforehand, re-enter the area until it appears.
Radiant Garden
Radiant Garden
All Fountain Court Defeat four Blue Sea Salts in the recess adjacent to the stairs. If Red Hot Chilis appear instead, leave the area and come back.
Disney Town
Disney Town
Terra Raceway Defeat four Blue Sea Salts in the blue walled roof across from the exit of Pete's Rec Room, only accessible via Air Sliding. If a Chrono Twister appears, leave the area and come back.
Ventus Raceway Roof leading from the exit to Pete's Rec Room. Defeat four Blue Sea Salts. If none appear, leave the area and come back.
Aqua Raceway After exiting the Raceway Registration, immediately to your left against the wall with the hidden Mickeys. Must defeat a few Blue Sea Salts beforehand.
Olympus Coliseum
Olympus Coliseum
All Town Near Thebes Southeast corner. If only Red Hot Chilis appear, or none appear at all, leave the area and come back until Red Hot Chilis and Prize Pots appear together.
Deep Space
Deep Space
Terra,
Aqua
Turo Prison Block Far end of the hall
Ventus Durgon Transporter In the airlock leading to the Ship Exterior. Defeat the first wave of enemies that appear in the room, after which the Prize Pods will appear. If a second wave of enemies appears instead, exit and re-enter the room and try again.
Neverland
Neverland
Terra Skull Rock: Entrance Small cliff accessible via Air Slide from Skull Rock: Cavern. If Jellyshades and a Triple Wrecker appear, leave the area and come back.
Ventus Mermaid Lagoon On the ledge accessible from the Cliff Path. A Wild Bruiser will appear alone first, followed by the Prize Pods and four Yellow Mustards. If the Wild Bruiser and Yellow Mustards appear together, exit the area and re-enter.
Aqua Indian Camp Far end of the area. Appears alongside a Wild Bruiser.
Mirage Arena
Mirage Arena
All Risky Riches Eight Prize Pods appear in the second-to-last wave of Round Three.
Treasure Tussle Prize Pods spawn on the third wave of Round Three and appear on both platforms.

It has a lot of empty space that we should trim first, and the characters should have br instead of commas. I am somewhat confused though, what is the intent of this version compared to the previous? Is it to replace the images for readers whose computers won't load them? If so, would it be possible to do both image and word (for world at least) to try and fill some of the blank space?

Also, why are we putting the ingredient nihongo on this page instead of the Ice Cream page?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 15:27, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

I wanted to remove the images. Adding world icons could make this table look prettier, I agree. I put the ingredient nihongo (and icons) here because if we're removing the locations from the Ice Cream page, it'd make more sense to redirect the ingredients here, where most of the information is kept. I assume most readers search for an ingredient name because they're missing it as part of a recipe and want to see where it is; if they're redirected to the Ice Cream page, they'll only see what recipe their ingredient belongs to, which would be useless knowledge to them. TheFifteenthMember 15:37, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Wouldn't it make more sense to put this table on the Ice Cream page, then? TheSilentHero 17:17, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
Locations of this manner basically serve as a strategy section for the Prize Pods, so they make sense here, but that also means the table is fairly packed. Aesthetically, I think it would look nicer to have the ingredient nihongo on that page, and have this one focus on where to find the Prize Pods that drop them. It would leave both tables less cluttered than repeating the same info in both places."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 12:39, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
So which article would the ingredients redirect to? The locations should be on that page. I have no problem with this table being on the Ice Cream page and this strategy section linking to that page. TheFifteenthMember 18:27, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
Maybe we could make a "List of Ice Cream Ingredients" page and put it on there. TheSilentHero 22:21, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
We can put the world on the ingredients/ice cream page, I guess."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 05:05, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
Why can't all the information (nihongos, worlds, specific locations within the world) be all in one place rather than scattered across pages? TheFifteenthMember 16:45, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
It's not all part of the same information. Some of that is information for the Prize Pods (specific locations), some of that is info for the Ice Cream (nihongo and world). Trying to combine that all into one page would mean bloating this page with information on the Ice Creams; trying to put too much information about items on an enemy page already makes it difficult to organize and categorize, and that kind of thing doesn't really work too well if you have to start making tables (we do the Mushrooms because you can handle those with quick, simple prose). There's no real need to create a third page if we already have the Ice Cream page, so it makes the most sense to have the walkthrough portion on how to hunt Prize Pods on this page (it's not like the way you hunt them depends on the ingredients at all, you just get that world's set of ingredients at random no matter what), and all the item data on an item page.
Mostly, though, I think the table looks a bit cramped having the nihongo and strategy paragraph at the same time."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 12:44, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

My gripe is when you search for an ingredient, you're redirected to the Ice Cream page which doesn't describe its location in detail and doesn't guide the reader on where to find that information. In my playthrough, I had an issue where I was missing a few ingredients (since I never hammered the Prize Pods enough) and needed to find the Prize Pod location via ingredient rather than world. We can't expect readers to know the layout of our wiki in order to find information, so I think we should put a "see also" template at the top of the section. TheFifteenthMember 18:33, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Ooooooooh, that makes sense. What if we got rid of the world column on the ice cream article, and instead turned the ingredient names into anchored links to this article, so that you can click on the ingredient there to find where the prize pod is here?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 14:25, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Does the table still look cramped? TheFifteenthMember 18:35, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

One thing I definitely wanted to get changed was splitting the ingredient list by character. Would it be possible to revise the table to a multi-cell entry format, similar to World Cards, where instead of three columns for character, location, and ingredients, we had one cell with something like:
World Location
Dwarf Woodlands
Dwarf Woodlands
Terra — Underground Waterway
On top of the waterfall near the exit to the Courtyard.
Gaspberry, Merry Mint[KH BbS FM], Nutty Nut
Ventus — The Mine
Lit, eastern[?] side of room, after defeating Monotruckers and Red Hot Chilis.
Apple Pie, Merry Mint[KH BbS FM], Merry Dairy
Aqua — Flower Glade
West[?] of the path to the Courtyard.
Gaspberry, Merry Mint[KH BbS FM], Peach Fantasy

This would make it easier to tell whether you have gotten all the ingredients from a world for the character you are playing as, and reduce having to hop back and forth between pages. Also, reduces the cramp just a little bit more."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 19:18, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

The ingredients of a world are different for each character? Do we have a list of all these somewhere? TheFifteenthMember 20:53, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
I'm guessing the ingredients for the Ice Cream that activate the exclusive Command Styles are character-exclusive as well. If you want, I can give you the full list of ingredients by character tomorrow. TheSilentHero 22:05, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Here it is:
Terra
  • DW: Gaspberry, Nutty Nut
  • CoD: Birthday Cake, Crystal Sugar
  • ED: Bijou Bean, Rose Honey
  • RG: Nebula Nectar, Rocket Soda, Soy Milk
  • DT: Prickle Pepper, Toonbasco
  • OC: Nutty Nut, Thundercracker
  • DS: Bizarro Bean, Galactic Caramel
  • NL: Dancing Lemon, Golden Jam, Whipped Dream
  • MA: Dancing Lemon, Open Sesame
Ventus
  • DW: Apple Pie, Merry Dairy
  • CoD: Chocolate Valentine, Wedding Cake
  • ED: Cherryberry, Forest Muffin, Jumbo Almond
  • RG: Moogle Coffee, Rocket Soda, Soy Milk
  • DT: Prickle Pepper, Toonbasco
  • OC: Cotton Cloudcandy, Thundercracker
  • DS: Cream Fluff, Star Syrup
  • NL: Dancing Lemon, Honeybunch, Rainbow Syrup
  • MA: Dancing Lemon, Open Sesame
Aqua
  • DW: Gaspberry, Peach Fantasy
  • CoD: Birthday Cake, Crystal Soda
  • ED: Rose Honey, Sky Blue Mousse
  • RG: Nebula Nectar, Rocket Soda, Soy Milk
  • DT: Prickle Pepper, Toonbasco
  • OC: Cotton Cloudcandy, Heroic Orange, Thundercracker
  • DS: Balloon Melon, Cream Fluff, Fizzy Tizzy
  • NL: Dancing Lemon, Mermaid Salt, Rainbow Syrup
  • MA: Dancing Lemon, Open Sesame
These are taken from the BBS BradyGames guide. FM ingredients are missing, though. TheSilentHero 18:25, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
Everyone has the same FM ingredients in every world (there's only one, shared, new Ice Cream), so that can just be copied from the existing table."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 19:40, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
Is it readable the way I depicted it, with the name, then strategy, then ingredients? Should the strategy perhaps be moved into a separate column to the right, with the hard stats in their own column to the left (still in one cell)?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 19:50, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
World Location
Dwarf Woodlands
Dwarf Woodlands
Terra — Underground Waterway
Gaspberry, Merry Mint[KH BbS FM], Nutty Nut
On top of the waterfall near the exit to the Courtyard.
Ventus — The Mine
Apple Pie, Merry Mint[KH BbS FM], Merry Dairy
Lit, eastern[?] side of room, after defeating Monotruckers and Red Hot Chilis.
Aqua — Flower Glade
Gaspberry, Merry Mint[KH BbS FM], Peach Fantasy
West[?] of the path to the Courtyard.