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*"Fluff" and "unofficial" are completely unrelated. As I said earlier, these images have a very specific purpose: ''they point the reader's eye towards the welcome message''. They are not simply there for decoration. You're trying to say that, basically, a turn lane sign is equivalent to the flowers by the side of the road. | *"Fluff" and "unofficial" are completely unrelated. As I said earlier, these images have a very specific purpose: ''they point the reader's eye towards the welcome message''. They are not simply there for decoration. You're trying to say that, basically, a turn lane sign is equivalent to the flowers by the side of the road. | ||
*I totally agree with a Young Xehanort image, if we can produce one that has the same "traffic sign" function (cloaked or uncloaked). As for the relevance of these Xehanort images...I didn't want to spoil KH3D too much, but it's a 99% chance these "two" characters showed up in KH3D, and in the end the game is explicitly about "forms of Xehanort".[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 19:36, 16 April 2012 (UTC) | *I totally agree with a Young Xehanort image, if we can produce one that has the same "traffic sign" function (cloaked or uncloaked). As for the relevance of these Xehanort images...I didn't want to spoil KH3D too much, but it's a 99% chance these "two" characters showed up in KH3D, and in the end the game is explicitly about "forms of Xehanort".[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 19:36, 16 April 2012 (UTC) | ||
For God's sake, why do we need the images in the first place?! Aesthetically speaking, they're an eyesore, and we've gotten by for so long without them that it hardly seems necessary to add them. | |||
*While the renders may come directly from the coding of a Square Enix game, they are the work of one user, and one user only, a ''fan-created'' rendition of offical material. It's not the work of the community. Again, it's something a user would host on his or her page and say "Look what I made!" Sounds like fanart to me. Flaunting our "community"'s skill comes across as snobbish and conceited, a bad first impression of our Wiki on the so-called audience you seem to think these images are capable of attracting. Using what Square has provided for us (you really think they give a damn about a Wiki?) is not simply "copy/pasting" it. It's using it to our advantage. The point is, we're the unofficial "official" ''Kingdom Hearts'' Wiki. Ergo, it makes more sense to emphasize the usage of official material. | |||
*My standpoint on the situation is simply this: Unless you ''know'' that the images are intended to draw one's attention to the welcome notice, they may as well ''be'' fluff added just for decorative purposes. The "turn lane sign and flowers by the side of the road" ''are'' the same when all the flowers do is make the turn lane sign look nice. If you actually want to emphasize the turn lane sign, then change the bloody sign itself! Don't just plant more flowers, because that's what sticks out. The flowers. Not the sign. Thus the images are fluff, and unofficial fluff at that (that's why I said I'd prefer official fluff over unofficial). Honestly, how many times do you see a "Welcome to <insert town name here>" sign and say "Ooo, what a pretty sign?" Plain and simple: You ''don't''! You compliment the pretty flowers or shrubbery growing ''around'' the sign, if you don't completely ignore the sign altogether, which most people do. The images have and adverse effect, at least for me: they draw all my attention to themselves, and not the welcome notice as intended. | |||
*There is no appearance of Terra-Xehanort at all in ''KH3D'', and the most you ever see of Xehanort is his hand. If you're trying to suggest relevance to ''KH3D'' and the whole "forms of Xehanort" thing without spoiling the game, then use forms with more prominence, like Ansem and Xemnas, as I suggested. If you must used a posed T-render, I see no reason why one could not be produced. | |||
And that's that. Tune in next week when "Battle of the Main Page Xehanort Renders" continues >_> - <span>[[File:Terra Master Symbol.png|17px]] [[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="peru">'''Eternal'''</font>]] [[User talk:EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="black">'''Nothingness'''</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="saddlebrown">'''XIII'''</font>]] [[File:Terra Master Symbol.png|17px]]</span> 22:16, 16 April 2012 (UTC) | |||