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[http://s1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb415/GastrodonAmy/?action=view¤t=KHWikiPicUL4.jpg Click here and see]. Please note that it's to only be online for 48 hours.}} | [http://s1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb415/GastrodonAmy/?action=view¤t=KHWikiPicUL4.jpg Click here and see]. Please note that it's to only be online for 48 hours.}} | ||
:Ergh, my oversight. Should work fine now, once your cache decides it wants to be nice. You should upgrade your browser sometime soon, though... ^^ {{User:Soxra/Sig|t=}} 07:05, 2 February 2012 (UTC) | :Ergh, my oversight. Should work fine now, once your cache decides it wants to be nice. You should upgrade your browser sometime soon, though... ^^ {{User:Soxra/Sig|t=}} 07:05, 2 February 2012 (UTC) | ||
Really not liking the color. It's too red, and it doesn't match anything in the theme. I suggest [[:wikipedia:Red-violet#Jazzberry_jam|Jazzberry Jam]] (#A50B5E) or something similar. Does that work? --{{User:As if!/Autosig}} 21:27, 4 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
{{KrytenKoro|The color and text color need to be modified so that links are still visible. Blue on violet is difficult to see.}} | |||
{{LightRoxas|riku=I agree with Kryten, and I would like to suggest using straight up Red-Violet (#C71585) with links in Silver (#C0C0C0). That's just my personal taste, though, so I can set up a custom CSS if I get outvoted.}} | |||
{{Soxra|text=I've updated it, but I couldn't quickly find a page that has links in the thumbnails, so I wasn't able to see the result... should work, regardless, though.|time={{User:Soxra/Sig|t=}} 21:10, 8 February 2012 (UTC)}} | |||
:Looks great, Sox. Thanks a lot. {{User:LightRoxas/Sig}} 00:00, 9 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
==Category Bar + Input Buttons [implemented]== | ==Category Bar + Input Buttons [implemented]== | ||
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{{LA|Vtext=These actually look amazing. I think the default gallery box color should be dark purple, to match our theme.}} | {{LA|Vtext=These actually look amazing. I think the default gallery box color should be dark purple, to match our theme.}} | ||
{{SidTalk|time=19:07, 1 February 2012 (UTC)|Roxas= I like it, because it's clearer and more appealing. }} | {{SidTalk|time=19:07, 1 February 2012 (UTC)|Roxas= I like it, because it's clearer and more appealing. }} | ||
{{KrytenKoro|These look good, but is it possible to make the colors more contrasting for users who might have weaker eyes?}} | |||
:Hm. I'll see what I can do... {{User:Soxra/Sig|t=}} 04:51, 3 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
{{Chitalian8|time=21:58, 8 February 2012 (UTC)|nekusad= I'm on Firefox, and it doesn't seem to be showing up for me. Any way to change that?}} | |||
:@KK: That issue should be dealt with now. @Chit: Should be fixed also. {{User:Soxra/Sig|t=}} 23:10, 8 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
== SEIWA Template == | == SEIWA Template == | ||
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{{neumannz|time=20:16, 1 February 2012 (UTC)|text=The Chrono Wiki logo needs to stand out more from the background. Maybe a white highlight border?}} | {{neumannz|time=20:16, 1 February 2012 (UTC)|text=The Chrono Wiki logo needs to stand out more from the background. Maybe a white highlight border?}} | ||
{{EO|time=01:08, 2 February 2012 (UTC)|thinking=Looks good, but the tops of the letters in "SEIWA" get lost against the background, and in my personal opinion, the text underneath the SEIWA logo is a tad hard to see. Other than that, looks great!}} | {{EO|time=01:08, 2 February 2012 (UTC)|thinking=Looks good, but the tops of the letters in "SEIWA" get lost against the background, and in my personal opinion, the text underneath the SEIWA logo is a tad hard to see. Other than that, looks great!}} | ||
{{17m|time=13:17, 2 February 2012 (UTC)|BeatNormal=The background should be recolored, maybe to magenta or something pink-ish to fit KH3D theme while making the wikis's logos clearly visible.}} | |||
{{maggosh|nathan=Added a white blur background to the Chrono logo. | |||
http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae93/maggosh/SEIWANew2.png}} | |||
{{TNE|time=13:21, 9 February 2012 (UTC)|text=I approve of the logos and stuff (well done on the template idea!), but I agree with 17m in that the background ''should'' be recoloured. That black/grey gradient is terribly dark.}} | |||
==Nav Bars== | ==Nav Bars== | ||
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===Discussion=== | ===Discussion=== | ||
{{EO|time=01:13, 2 February 2012 (UTC)|thinking=The rounded edges are growing on me...but I still think the templates themselves are tad bit "boring" to look at. Any way they can be "jazzed up" without totally ruining their purpose/formatting? Could they possibly look more ''Kingdom Hearts''-y?}} | {{EO|time=01:13, 2 February 2012 (UTC)|thinking=The rounded edges are growing on me...but I still think the templates themselves are tad bit "boring" to look at. Any way they can be "jazzed up" without totally ruining their purpose/formatting? Could they possibly look more ''Kingdom Hearts''-y?}} | ||
{{FinalRest|time=08:36, 2 February 2012 (UTC)|normal=I personally prefer the corners to the rounded edges because the way the round edges curve around the [show] button bugs me. I also agree with EO in saying that I reckon they could be jazzed up a bit. I like the brighter colors of the current ones a lot more, but I'm still not crazy about them. I dunno.... Oh, I do prefer the borders on the rounded ones better too.}} | |||
{{17m|time=13:17, 2 February 2012 (UTC)|BeatNormal=I think the colors need to be brighter, like the old NavBars. | |||
...I think I'm basically suggesting a rounded-edge version of the current NavBar}} | |||
3D and KH need to retain their colors, magenta-pink and deep dark blue respectively. Days needs to be a bit darker and redder. Birth by Sleep needs to be lighter and it's good to go. {{User:Erry/Sig}} 15:30, 2 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
==Header Templates== | ==Header Templates== | ||
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@ENX: Of course not. We used those tiny images in the keyhole in order not to imitate the talk bubble sprite idea that it was beign used here. The image this time can be whatever you guys want.--{{User:Dark-EnigmaXIII/Sig}} 02:03, 2 February 2012 (UTC) | @ENX: Of course not. We used those tiny images in the keyhole in order not to imitate the talk bubble sprite idea that it was beign used here. The image this time can be whatever you guys want.--{{User:Dark-EnigmaXIII/Sig}} 02:03, 2 February 2012 (UTC) | ||
{{17m|time=13:17, 2 February 2012 (UTC)|BeatHappy=I love this one.}} | |||
These should be certain emblems in the game, like Nobody, Dream Eater, etc. if we're to change to your new ones. Otherwise they become what ENX is suggesting. {{User:Erry/Sig}} 15:30, 2 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
{{KrytenKoro|Honestly, I've been trying to move these to the talk pages, because they are so big that you often can't see the actual content of the page without scrolling down...Perhaps we could work on one unified "checklist" template that allowed editors to list all the issues without having to add multiple templates? | |||
Also, notices that are semi-permanent and do not indicate problems with the page, such as translation, canon, or spoiler, should be the slim one-line ones. | |||
The colored background is definitely a plus, though, to keep it from blending in. It's just so large that it actually hurts the page, is the problem.}} | |||
{{Soxra|happy=That. Is. A. Fantastic. Idea. | |||
I'm going to get started on the checklist concept right away.|time={{User:Soxra/Sig|t=}} 04:50, 3 February 2012 (UTC)}} | |||
==Infoboxes== | ==Infoboxes== | ||
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{{Chitalian8|time=03:36, 2 February 2012 (UTC)|nekutalk= IMHO, I like that the songs are under different tabs, seems more organized to me.}} | {{Chitalian8|time=03:36, 2 February 2012 (UTC)|nekutalk= IMHO, I like that the songs are under different tabs, seems more organized to me.}} | ||
The new one is gorgeous! But I think I have to agree with that it looks slightly better to have all the songs in one tab. -- [[User:JTD95|JTD95]] 08:27, 2 February 2012 (UTC) | The new one is gorgeous! But I think I have to agree with that it looks slightly better to have all the songs in one tab. -- [[User:JTD95|JTD95]] 08:27, 2 February 2012 (UTC) | ||
{{17m|time=13:17, 2 February 2012 (UTC)|BeatNormal2=I like it. As for the songs, I thought we were going to make them more noticeable? Having them on a section like [http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Cecil_Harvey#Musical_Themes FFWiki's] is a good idea, I think.}} | |||
I don't mind the color, music should be what we currently have. {{User:Erry/Sig}} 15:30, 2 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
:We can split the music off into a separate box if needed, but the image there was part of an initiative to draw the eye to the music section, as requested (though it was supposed to be replaced with a text image...). As for the foreign language links, those automatically create the links to the other wikis. If we want them to display as well, we can, but we need to preserve the interwiki functionality. | |||
:Chitalian, the songs are already under different tabs, it's just that ''that'' is also collapsed so that the infobox isn't too long. | |||
:Would it be better to move the songs to a separate tab, as we do with journal entries? | |||
:Also, Soxra, can you adjust your code so that the black text is white (better contrast) and so that the borders don't show around the image tabs?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 04:08, 3 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
{{17m|time=14:22, 3 February 2012 (UTC)|BeatNormal2= I still like the idea of making a separate section, but I'm not against making a separate tab for it.}} | |||
==Quotes== | ==Quotes== | ||
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{{maggosh|nathan=How's about you shrink the quotation marks to about the size here: http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Heavy }} | {{maggosh|nathan=How's about you shrink the quotation marks to about the size here: http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Heavy }} | ||
{{Soxra|text=That's definitely a possibility, maggosh. You'd be in favor of it, if we did?|time={{User:Soxra/Sig|t=}} 05:46, 2 February 2012 (UTC)}} | {{Soxra|text=That's definitely a possibility, maggosh. You'd be in favor of it, if we did?|time={{User:Soxra/Sig|t=}} 05:46, 2 February 2012 (UTC)}} | ||
{{17m|time=13:17, 2 February 2012 (UTC)|BeatNormal=I think the quotation marks are too big, it should be a bit bigger than what we have currently, but also smaller than the ones at Heavy's article over at TF2 wiki.}} | |||
{{maggosh|nathan=Da, iz tea-time, doktor.}} | |||
I don't mind the huge quotation marks. {{User:Erry/Sig}} 15:30, 2 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
{{neumannz|time=06:11, 3 February 2012 (UTC)|text= Setting the quotes apart is great and all, but the insanely oversized quotation marks are not nice to look at. The Team Fortress Wiki's ones are a better size. If we can maybe have a slightly colored background, that'd be great, too.}} | |||
No, it looks horrible, no matter what the size is (it doesn't look good on the Team Fortress Wiki either). Quotes are just a minor part of an article, their not all that important. You shouldn't put this much focus on the quotes. Making the quotes this noticeable is just disturbing for people when they're reading through the articles. - [[User:JTD95|JTD95]] 21:54, 4 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
{{Maggosh|flint=Don't you dare talk smack about the TF Wiki.}} | |||
{{TNE|time=13:29, 9 February 2012 (UTC)|blahtext=I disapprove. The bigger quotation marks look awkward. Granted, the current quote template is pretty basic, and care can be taken to highlight the main quote, but something else can be done... say, changes in the text formatting. The quotation marks should be proportionate in size to the text.}} | |||
==Staff Member Template== | ==Staff Member Template== | ||
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:The point for this at the Keyhole was mostly so it was know what kind of activities a staffer could do, so users could know who to ask each thing, like moving pictures or blocking vandals. There's the staff page for that, but some users dont bother in checking the link at the bottom of the Interaction segment in the sidebar. By no means is this a way of showing superiority.--{{User:Dark-EnigmaXIII/Sig}} 02:01, 2 February 2012 (UTC) | :The point for this at the Keyhole was mostly so it was know what kind of activities a staffer could do, so users could know who to ask each thing, like moving pictures or blocking vandals. There's the staff page for that, but some users dont bother in checking the link at the bottom of the Interaction segment in the sidebar. By no means is this a way of showing superiority.--{{User:Dark-EnigmaXIII/Sig}} 02:01, 2 February 2012 (UTC) | ||
{{Chitalian8|time=03:34, 2 February 2012 (UTC)|neku= I like that this one differentiates between the Mods and the Admins, seems nice, don't really see too much of a problem with the "superiority" thing.}} | {{Chitalian8|time=03:34, 2 February 2012 (UTC)|neku= I like that this one differentiates between the Mods and the Admins, seems nice, don't really see too much of a problem with the "superiority" thing.}} | ||
{{LightRoxas|text=Yeah, I don't really see it being a problem in terms of "Superiority" - it helps distinguish mods from admins, as Chit said.}} | |||
I like it. {{User:Erry/Sig}} 15:30, 2 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
{{neumannz|time=06:15, 3 February 2012 (UTC)|text=I'm not against the crowns, but if we don't do that, why couldn't we just pretty up the keys? That might be better, considering crowns are already used elsewhere, like with featured articles/media.}} | |||
==Utility Templates== | ==Utility Templates== | ||
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Try to pile up the current templates like that. There's not much of a difference, not to mention they wouldnt pile up this time due to the suite template--{{User:Dark-EnigmaXIII/Sig}} 04:49, 2 February 2012 (UTC) | Try to pile up the current templates like that. There's not much of a difference, not to mention they wouldnt pile up this time due to the suite template--{{User:Dark-EnigmaXIII/Sig}} 04:49, 2 February 2012 (UTC) | ||
The current one looks better. It has nicer colors (perhaps it could be changed, I don't know), I prefer the round edges and the fact that the text is centered makes it look more independent from the rest of the article which doesn't have centered text. - [[User:JTD95|JTD95]] 08:44, 2 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
{{17m|time=13:17, 2 February 2012 (UTC)|BeatNormal2=I like the current one we're having. maybe making it a big bigger to make it more noticeable (but the bright color should've done the job).}} | |||
No, no, no... to the left-aligned part. What's the use of having the borders go all over the page if the text is going to be left-aligned? I like the idea, anyways, but the text should be centered, not left. {{User:Erry/Sig}} 15:30, 2 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
{{neumannz|time=06:19, 3 February 2012 (UTC)|text=I agree with Erry on this.}} | |||
==Additional update to thumbnail frames== | |||
{{TNE|time=13:20, 9 February 2012 (UTC)|text=I quite like DE's suggestion for thumbnail frames, and I've got a question: now that image thumbnails have been rectified, what about the gallery? | |||
Now I'll acknowledge that the purpose of the thumbnail frames was to highlight the subject, so I agree that they must be bold and eye-catching. But I find the gallery image borders a bit unsightly (the usual boxy grey borders!). Please, if anyone would like to add on to my idea, do edit this section. | |||
EDIT 13:23, 9 February 2012 (UTC) : I'll post an image suggestion and ask if this is possible. | |||
EDIT 20:23, 9 February 2012 (UTC) : I haven't an idea for the visuals yet, but I've got two suggestions, feel free to side with either one or come up with new ideas: | |||
*'''Idea 1:''' Better-looking borders rather than the boxy ones that we currently have, full stop. | |||
*'''Idea 2:''' Better-looking borders rather than the boxy ones that we currently have; we can scroll right and left (to the next and previous images like you see on Flash galleries). | |||
I'll be honest, I'm not sure if Idea 2 can be coded, but now we have HTML5. We can always hope that something actually materialises.}} | |||
===Discussion=== | |||
{{Uxie|time=13:30, 9 February 2012 (UTC)|zoe=Like I said earlier: If Bulbapedia can change the colors for it's images and galleries, then so can many other non-Wikia wikis, including us.}} | |||
{{LightRoxas|lucky=Yeah, DE and Sox did such an awesome job on the thumbnails that now the galleries look even more bland just by comparison. So I'm all for some prettying up here, especially now that we have much more expansive gallery pages.}} | |||
{{Soxra|text=Idea 1 is fine, sprucing that up is no big deal. In terms of an actual full-out JS Slider (HTML5 is not an option without MediaWiki access; that would mean it would be entirely done by Porple, and I don't want to put this on him), it's an incredibly cumbersome code and too heavyweight for an encyclopedia. So I'd scrap idea 2, in all honesty.|time={{User:Soxra/Sig|t=}} 22:40, 9 February 2012 (UTC)}} | |||
{{TNE|time=23:07, 9 February 2012 (UTC)|text=Sounds fair. So we can definitely go with idea 1 — any ideas for what the gallery sections should look like?}} | |||
{{Asif|sho=Look at the thumbnails now. Imagine a box similar-looking to that in a light pink.. Add images in the box that grow in size when scrolled over. Now add a rounded caption box under each image in the purple of the thumbnails. That's what I think it should look like.}} | |||
{{Soxra|hood=I have to disagree on that one. I feel like that's just way too much, even in a light pink. It will detract from the photos. A grey-monochromatic background is going to be the best option (even if dark, though that probably wouldn't go well with the rest of the theme). I'd say we're best to leave the background color as it is, and stick to borders/shading.|time={{User:Soxra/Sig|t=}} 01:58, 10 February 2012 (UTC)}} | |||