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==Super Special Announcement==
https://twitter.com/shonenjump/status/810010343405682688 Your thoughts on its confirmation?
{{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 07:44, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
:http://media.tumblr.com/b02969e5c5d399ce7a87f25002766bbc/tumblr_inline_mw38y2md2Y1rbgili.gif --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 17:55, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
:SuperSajuuk is just as lovable as usual. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 19:24, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
::I read about the announcement this morning. I even know about the ''Boruto'' anime getting launched! :D I'm not all that thrilled about the idea of a live-action Hollywood film for ''Naruto'' series, though. Let's face it: Hollywood is going to making it tank. Doing a live-action Hollywood film based off a manga? C'mon, that never works out well. But I am excited about ''Boruto'' getting an anime series! :D I was hoping for it. I might have stopped editing on the Narutopedia for my own personal reasons, but I am still very much a big fan of ''Naruto''! 
::I sense sarcasm there... ^__^; I still visit the Narutopedia every day, so I know that jerk haven't changed much since I left. The Narutopedia grammar has fallen down drastically since I left, too. :( I see so many mistakes on the pages now, and whoever does the episodes' summaries doesn't seem to believe in spacing out the paragraphs, either.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:00, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
:::Edge of Tomorrow/Live Die Repeat worked out well.  That was a movie based off a manga based off a light novel!  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 00:06, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
::::Never watched the film or really heard much about it. Still, that isn't a very good counterargument. ^_^; That film, as you said, was based off a novel. I only said that films based off manga never work well. Hollywood botches up too much when it comes to films based off manga. Never works well. People find a lot to complain about already with that ''Death Note'' film that's currently in the making.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 20:18, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
:::::No, I never said it was based off a novel.  It was based off a manga based off a novel lol.  The movie contains elements that were in the manga but not in the novel - it's closer to the manga than to the book, if you will.  I can pretty much guarantee you that the film botches nothing.  It's a rarity, sure, but at least it gives me hope for the Ghost in the Shell film. --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 21:09, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
::::::I never read the ''Ghost in the Shell'' before, so I can't really comment on it. I know there's a lot of complaints about it already. Sci-Fi manga are easier to do, but doing something like a huge and complex as ''Naruto''? That'd be impossible to do properly, with the huge cast of characters, the battle sequences, the jutsus, settings, and the like.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 22:44, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
:::::::I agree. The last thing we want is what happened with Dragonball Evolution. I think I'll wait until I read the reviews for the movie before I decide whether or not I want to watch it. [[User:Rex Ronald Rilander|Rex Ronald Rilander]] ([[User talk:Rex Ronald Rilander|talk]]) 05:07, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
:::::::Lol, I would think Brick killing a guy with a trident summed up my reaction to this perfectly.  But I'm not one to kill the idea of live action adaptations entirely.  As I've said, they ''can'' be done well ''because'' they've been done well before.  In fact, Ninja, that's your homework assignment!  Go watch the live-action Rurouni Kenshin movies, and tell me it can't be done!  Ah, but that's not egregious enough!  So I go back to my previous comment - go watch Edge of Tomorrow.  That movie probably has the worst case of Americanization ever - an ordinary Japanese man is turned into a dashing American hero!  Played by Tom Cruise, no less!  Yet, I '''''dare''''' you to tell me you didn't enjoy the hell out of it.  >:P  You won't be able to.  [https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/live_die_repeat_edge_of_tomorrow Hell, just look at this!]  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 07:01, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
:::::::As Cloud typically says, "Not interested." Lol. XD Sorry, but I never was interested in ''Rurouni Kenshin'' films, or ''Edge of Tomorrow''. I like Tom Cruise, but the actors/actresses featuring the films aren't a deciding factor to whether I watch something or not. I'm extremely picky about what I watch/read, and I have a strong personal belief not to let reviews and ratings on websites, especially a website like Rotten Tomatoes, to influence what I watch. Even if the reviews are typically good or bad, if the series/shows or whatever doesn't peak my interest, then I don't watch it. Plus, I'm way behind on a lot of stuff because of college, so I have enough things to do/watch/read before the winter break ends. XD--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 20:14, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
::::::::Take a leap of faith lol.  What's the worst that could happen?  ;)  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 23:11, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
:::::::::Hmm, I waste my time checking something out that I'm not really interested in? :P Like I said, never been interested in the ''Rurouni Kenshin'' series. I never even watched the anime. And like I said before, I'm way behind on other things because of college, and have more pressing things to attend to before next semester. I honestly don't have the time to waste on things I have no interest in. ^__^;--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 20:58, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
==Discord Channel==
I made a discord channel. https://discordapp.com/channels/272088543478677516/272088543478677516 {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 20:47, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw the forum just now. But you know I don't really go to the IRC all that much to begin with. The KHWiki's on-site IRC is more convenient to use, anyway. I'm not going to create an account there when I can just chat to users on the IRC. Still, thanks for letting me know. :)--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 20:49, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
:You can use voice and video conversations on Discord channels and would be good for podcasts and looks better then a IRC plus you can fix spelling mistakes with discord so it would be worth making a discord account besides doesn't KHWiki require you to register in the same way. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 20:52, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
::But you don't have to register to use IRC lol.  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 22:44, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
:::But Discord is cooler and better and is being used by more and more users. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 23:42, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
:::Honestly, "cool features" never really appeals to me. I don't care what features something has or how popular it is. Efficiency is more important to me. I think the on-site IRC is more convenient since:

:::A.) You don't even need an account to sign into it.

:::B.) As it's on-site, you don't have to leave the wiki to go to a different site just to talk to other users.

:::C.) The Discord Channel allows users to change their text, but I think that's one of the down sides of it. IRC channels are typically disabled from other wikias because how much they are abused by users. Changing text when a conversation gets out of hand can eliminate evidence of a user's wrongdoings. Our IRC doesn't, which preserves all evidence of a user's misbehavior as long as someone screencaps it.

:::D.) I hardly think anyone is going to be comfortable having a voice and/or video conversations.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 20:45, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
::::Well if anyone wants Podcasts and thev Magazine to return Discord is the way. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 20:57, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
:::::Well....I personally wouldn't mind the magazine making a comeback.  I always rather like it personally, but...other than me, was there ''really'' any kind of audience for it?  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 22:06, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
::::::There was me. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 22:19, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
:::::::Personally, I never really cared much for the magazine or podcasts. I think they took too much time away from users, which is why they eventually just stopped doing it. First and foremost, this is an encyclopedia website, not so much as a fansite like KHInsider. In any case, I'm not interested in the Discord Channel.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:10, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
::::::::Can you still make the channel official? {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 22:34, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
::::::::I....don't think that should be the basis of your decision, Ninja.  Whether ''you're'' personally interested in it.  You should look at it from a perspective of whether it benefits the Wiki, or detracts from it.  As I'm not a mod, my opinion is irrelevant, but I think you already know what I think on the matter.  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 23:01, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
:::::::::Whoa, whoa, okay, time out, people! I think there's some sort of misunderstanding going here. ^_^; First, Byzantinefire, the KHWiki is a community of users. It's not ruled by just one user. I can't and won't make anything official. Everything is decided by the community. If I recall, you made the Discord Channel for the wiki without even consulting the community whether or not if everyone wants it. Like I said, I can't make anything official. This is a community, and as a community, this is something all users should have a voice in, preferably before you created the account and then informed us about it.
:::::::::Second, Ignis, what decision? All I did was offer my opinion. I never said anything about getting rid of the podcasts or magazines. For starters, I was never in charge of it. Volunteered users are the ones who came up with the idea and went with it. I had zero part in the decision of the magazine and never really associated myself with it. If the rest of the community wants to continue with it, that's fine since it's something they want to do. Just because I am indifferent about it, that doesn't mean I'm going to oppose it, either. So, I'm not sure where you got the assumption that I made a decision about anything. Again, everything is decided by the community, not just one user.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 23:41, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
::::::::::Exactly what community the Wiki is mostly semi active and i already made a forum post so no one really seems to care about it. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 00:23, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
:::::::::::Isn't that right there your answer then?  No one cares enough for it.  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 01:04, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
::::::::::::I don't accept apathy. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 01:18, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Byzantinefire, you created the forum ''after'' you created the channel for the KHWiki, without consulting the KHWiki community about it first. You're asking me to make it official without bothering to consult the other users about this first. I suggest that if you want to make it official, you have to alert the community of it. The whole community.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:10, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
::::::::::::::And how do you suppose i should do that leave a message on everyones wall? {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 21:27, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Ninja, can you post a link to the forum thread in the sitenotice?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 01:14, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::Sure thing, Kryten. I usually don't meddle with the sitenotice, though, so is there anything in particular you want me to put on the sitenotice aside a link to the forum thread?--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 01:30, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::Thank you. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 02:06, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::Next time, though, Byzantinefire, discuss this with the community first before you decide to create something that we're not even sure we're going to use first. It's fine to be enthusiastic about something, please suggest creating something for the wiki first, not create it already and then inform the community about with allowing other users to have a voice in the decision-making.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 23:06, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

== Video overhaul ==

I want to start overhauling some of the really outdated videos we have on here, starting with stuff like boss battles.  As an example, replace [[Kurt Zisa]]'s video with one from 1.5.  Much better quality, and it keeps in line with keeping up with latest iterations.  But after looking around, I haven't really seen any guidelines we have on here on the matter.  Do we have any sort of protocol for this?  Like, only from particular channels?  Do we contact the uploaders and ask for permission?  Y'know, things like that.  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 03:45, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
:The KHWiki is, in fact, affiliated [[KHWiki:Affiliates#YouTubeAffiliates|with several YT channels]]. Have been for a while, and though I am not privy about the details of the agreement between the YT users, I think it's safe to say that we are free to use their videos on our wiki. Cyberman65 is my favorite YT user for KH videos.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:08, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
::Super.  :D  Thanks.  I'll get around to it tonight.  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 03:28, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
::Cyberman65 doesn't have individual boss fights - just the optional ones...  Screw it.  I put up whoever uploads the best ones.  If they don't want it here, it'll be removed promptly.  Though I've ''never'' heard of a youtube user who doesn't like the additional views...  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 18:35, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
:::Have you tried the other YT accounts?--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 18:57, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
::::Yeah, they're all extremely outdated.  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 20:25, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
::::You know what really amazes me, though?  Doing this, it's shockingly hard to find a video where the uploader displays this apparently rare skill of maintaining the ability to ''shut the fuck up''.  Absolutely EVERYONE has a whole lot of utterly worthless nothing to talk about for five minutes at a time.  It's criminally difficult to find a video where it's just pure undiluted gameplay, without being contaminated by useless, pointless drivel the entire way through.  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 20:33, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
:::::Ahahaha...^_^; I know what you mean. Not all YT users are like that, though. Typing in "No commentary" helps narrow down the search, but it is annoying to go through videos up YT for gameplay videos. Takes a lot of time. Honestly, I have reservations about using gameplay videos on the KHWiki due to legal issues that often comes with YT gameplay videos. I'm not privy to the exact details of it all, but despite the fact that are people making an actual living and earning thousands of dollars a year just by playing video games and uploading it on YT, it's not really legal. That's why pure, undiluted gameplay videos are hard to find, I think. Those are the videos that are usually taken down.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 22:17, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
::::::A bunch of them on here have actually been taken down - it's one of the reasons why I'm doing this.  But in general, most companies aren't very militant about it.  Tiny amounts of ad revenue for the uploaders, essentially free marketing for the publishers.  Finding vids of the flagship games isn't that hard - it's Unchained that's the bitch.  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 04:33, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
::::::I have a [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnWG0W7dgSs-M3uzejaD3q12_xAlhqcXb bunch of individual no-commentary videos from KH1FM (PS3)], if that helps. ''[[User:Ultima Spark|<span style="color:#002395 ;">Ultima Spark</span>]]'' '''[[User talk:Ultima Spark|<span style="color:#007FFF ;">(talk)</span>]]''' [[File:Lofty Fantasy KH3D.png|17px]] 23:30, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
:::::::Thanks.  ^_^  It does.  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 04:33, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
::::::::As far as using non-affiliated accounts, it's definitely the most polite to ask them for permission to mirror first. As far as talking, as long as they're giving advice on ''how'' to fight the boss it should be okay. We have our own youtube channel, as well (I think Ninja mentioned above), and if anyone would like to make a project of uploading needed videos we can arrange handing the keys to that account over for them to upload to (I think Erry has them right now).{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 15:07, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
:::::::::That is a good idea, Kryten. Actually, if I recall, Erry-san isn't really active on the KHWiki. Having someone else manage the KHWiki's YT account aside from Erry-san would be easier.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:01, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Sorry!  I've been away the last two days.  Just got back tonight.  I....I shit you not, I slept in my university club room the last two nights.  =_=  Oh, and there was a bloody strong thunderstorm all night last night, so technically I slept just one night!  I'll resume getting everything updated tonight.  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 03:27, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

==Xehanort and Yhwach==
https://dailyanimeart.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/yhwachs-almighty-transform-the-future.png

You notice there are many similarities between Xehanort and Yhwach like voice actors and precognition you don't suppose Xehanort can actually alter the future at will. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 04:29, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
:Uh... I think you have the wrong talk page. ^_^; I don't know who this Yhwach character is.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 20:58, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
::No i have the right one you do read Bleach right? {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 21:15, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
:::Umm, no. I don't know where you got that idea from. I never mentioned ever liking ''Bleach''. I've never been interested in the series.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 23:27, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
::::Really i assume everyone who reads Jump reads Bleach. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 23:40, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
:::::Uhm...sorry man, but pestering people on their talk pages about your Jump wiki doesn't automatically mean they read ___________ or _____________...  That's like...a super obtuse train of thought.  @_@  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 03:24, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
::::::I did not bring up that wiki i brought up Jump in general can't you even tell the difference. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 03:28, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
:::::::Look, you really should stop bothering people over things they more-likely-than-not don't have an interest in; it's only going cause more irritation toward you. ''[[User:Ultima Spark|<span style="color:#002395 ;">Ultima Spark</span>]]'' '''[[User talk:Ultima Spark|<span style="color:#007FFF ;">(talk)</span>]]''' [[File:Lofty Fantasy KH3D.png|17px]] 04:38, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
::::::::I assumed she was interested in Bleach and you don't get to talk you have been mostly been inactive and now is acting harsh and rude to a user you know absolutely nothing about you should have criticized Ignis but butting in not me i actually kind of respected you but now i feel insulted for not taking my side and accusing me of advertising good day Ultima. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 04:51, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
Again sorry about how this turned out Shiek this conversation was just supposed to be only us. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 04:58, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
:I think i might have PTSD or maybe just a Persecutory delusion. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 05:00, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
::I've got a Master's in psychology and psycho-pharmacology, and technically speaking my area of research focus is positive psychology and practical and therapeutic applications for hallucinogens (at the end of next year, I will officially be DOCTOR Iggy!), buuuuut...it kind of looks to me like it's vulnerable narcissism (VN for short).  Now, again...I'm not a psychiatrist, but narcissism does cross over into abnormal psychology territory.  VN is characterized by a compulsive need to overcompensate and stick out in order to mask a chronic self-dislike and overall feeling of lack of self-worth.  Sometimes, this is projected with a lack of regard towards the feelings, thoughts and opinions of others.  Emotional manipulation is also a go-to defense mechanism in order to justify unwanted behaviors, like guilt-tripping.  In your case, it's your Wiki.  You compulsively shove it down everyone's throats regardless of whether they're interested or even can work on it, and when they do express that disinterest or dismay with your method of approach, you regress immediately into defensive mode.  The kicker is your wiki itself - it's pretty much irrelevant in that everything it supposedly covers, is covered elsewhere in far more comprehensive wikis.  So, this is really just your own personal project.  Now, don't take this the wrong way!  I'm not trying to be a dick!  It's just, well, first step to fixing a problem is identifying it (Contrary to popular belief!  "Admitting" is like...maybe the second or third, and only in personal cases).  I'm a scientist, man.  And science is awesome and boneless at the same time.  And in the case of Yhwach (who, by the way, is an utterly fucking horrible villain, IMO - cept his mustache), you projected!  You sought a common ground with Ninja, and subconsciously falsely reminded yourself that she shares one of your interests due to a past discussion - mainly the Wiki, which is why I brought it up again lol.  It's pretty scary how almost everything can be explained, huh.   --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 05:40, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
:::NinjaShiek Would it be alright if i just remove this huge mess called a message from your wall. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 05:58, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

===[SCRUBBED]===
<big><font color="red">STOP IT. All of you.</font></big>{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 14:27, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
:Okay, seriously, guys? I get home from college to find another fight has broken out on my talk page, forcing KrytenKoro to intervene and take the argument off my page (which, by the way, I reverted. Last I checked, removing content from talk pages is against the rules and this count as evidence as misbehavior). This is getting ridiculous, and I'm getting really annoyed with both you, Ignis, and you, Byzantinefire. This isn't the first time the two of you got into a disagreement, and you've been warned in the past for personally attacking each other. If anything, another warning should be issued out to both of you for what happened above. Also, let's get things a few things straight here:
:1.) Byzantinefire, I don't like ''Bleach''. Never have, and possibly never will. Please don't assume things about people. There are plenty of fans who I am friends with that read from WSJ and only a fan of only a few of the works there. While their choice of words may have been a bit blunt, Ignis and Ultima Spark didn't really mean harm by what they say. Again, you really shouldn't just assume things about people. 
:2.) That being said, Ignis, I don't appreciate you trying to psychoanalyze another user on the KHWiki. You crossed a line there. 
:3.) Look, I honestly don't why the two of you are always so hostile to one another. Several times, you two act as if you are trying to purposefully provoke the other, and that goes especially for you, Ignis. I don't mean to sound mean, but when Byzantinefire leaves messages on my talk page, you tend to butt in, saying something Byzantinefire finds offensive, and then a fight breaks out. Byzantinefire, you tend to get angered easily at Ignis and other users for comments that were not meant to be hurtful in any way. This needs to stop, right now. I don't understand where this hostility is originating from, but enough is enough.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:19, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
::I didn't psychoanalyze anything or anyone.  :/  ''He'' put it out there.  I just corrected him and explained it a little bit.  In fact, I'm even a little bit offended that you guys would outright delete all of it.  It wasn't a fight, or even a confrontation, or even drama or anything.  Making it go away or pretending doesn't help anyone, even if you overreact.  :<  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 06:30, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
:::Don't downplay what happened. Byzantinefire got offended by your "explanation" of "vulnerable narcissism", which you linked directly to him and even rehashed past incidents involving him, as if you were trying to diagnosis him. Call it whatever you will, that doesn't change the fact that you crossed a line and insulted Byzantinefire based off conjecture. He got offended and asked me to remove it, though since I was in college classes at the time, KrytenKoro had removed it and told all of you guys to stop. What happened above was, without a doubt, drama, which would have escalated further if Kryten didn't intervene. Ignis, [https://www.khwiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Ignis&diff=715351&oldid=714543 you have already been warned once before for personally attacking another user], and what has occurred above could be seen as a personal attack against Byzantinefire. Again, I don't get where all this hostility is coming from, but seeing as you two are constantly butting heads with one another, I suggest you two try to work together at the [[Forum:Heartless Manufactory|Heartless Manufactory]] in order to make amends.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 23:32, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
::::Maybe I'll just avoid discussion pages altogether.  I've made it clear top to bottom that I wasn't being facetious - that it wasn't any kind of accusation (again, THAT word or train of thought is fucking offensive in this context, not just to me, but hundreds of millions of people who live with the stigma), that it was a ''correction and explanation'' (again, HE brought up the subject), but I can't even talk simple science without pissing someone off.  What's next, hm?  Is 2+2=4 gonna piss someone else off next?  I didn't downplay anything.  ''YOU'' did by treating it as an accusation and diagnosis.  And that?  THAT pisses me off.  That offends ''me''.  And, by the way, congratulations.  ''You'' must made this into drama.  I would've let it be right before you jumped in and made it worse just now.  And what's worse...I really liked you before this.  >_>  So with that, I'll take your advice and go to the Heartless Manufactory.  But past that, I'm done with user discussions.  Rex jumps in and turns everything into an ordeal, and for some reason always has a pointless bone to pick with me...  Byzantine acts really obnoxiously sometimes, then gets offended when someone offers a scientific explanation for something.  And you...really suck at mediating it all.  Not much incentive for me for social interaction beyond the usual wiki business.  =_=  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 01:47, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
:::::...OK.  I'mma be honest.  I don't even know how the HM works.  [[https://www.khwiki.com/Forum:Heartless_Manufactory  I mean, we even have this thread]]  not really helping the case...  The template is just...ridiculously obtuse so just humor me here and let me use this space to make my "amends":  To everyone who I have upset, I apologize and it won't happen again, that I can pretty much promise you.  Just carry on with business as usual, and I guarantee that I won't have any say in any matters.  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 02:33, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
:::::::You personally attacked three users, including me, just now. I left a warning on your talk page. Ignis, what you did was offensive to Byzantinefire's character. No matter how you look at it, Byzantinefire has his feelings hurt by you. You can't just assume something about user here. That is hurtful to the user himself, and that is what is what happened. That is a fact, as clearly demonstrated above. I told you and Kryten told you, enough is enough. We're stopping this before this escalates further. I won't respond to anything else you posted, because I don't wish for to misunderstand me and I don't want to anger you further. Bottom line is this: You attacked Byzantinefire. You hurt his feelings by your words. Your first message above mine, you attacked two other users, mentioning Rex Ronald Rilander, who has nothing to do with went on here. You attacked me. This needs to stop, right now. As for the HM, it's basically where two users or more get together to work a specific page. It's an alternative way to dealing with users who are caught in spat, because the KHWiki doesn't want to block/ban users left and right. It's a cooperative, peaceful solution to promote camaraderie. Basically, if you wish to make amends with Byzantinefire, you two will work together on a page to improve its content. Kryten can explain it better than I can, but that's the gist of it.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 03:59, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
:::::::::I'll continue working on whatever I am at the moment - currently, that's updating the vids.  After that, whatever comes up next.  If Byzantine (or anyone else for that matter) wants or needs my help with something, I'll be more than happy to help.  But other than that, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ2pkNwHy8w well...]]  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 04:27, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
:::::::::One last thing (I'm starting to get annoying, aren't I...?):  I appreciate you going to lengths to prove me wrong.  When I called you a lousy mediator.  I was wrong and out of line.  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 04:56, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
::::::::::Thank you for your apology. Please be more mindful of other users' feeling in the future, okay? I don't like issuing warnings to users, but I will if I have to.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 19:20, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

== Question ==

Hey there! It's been a while. I hope all is well with you. If I remember correctly, you asked me for a favor a few months ago, but we never got around to discussing it because you had lots to do first. Do you still need my help? Are you free to talk about it now? If so, shoot me a message, and I'll respond ASAP! As this is my last semester of college, my classes are few. I therefore am free every day (save Tuesdays) after 4:00 PM EST. I hope to hear back from you soon! - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 07:11, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
::Yo, EN! :) Long time no speak! Unfortunately, due to my college classes, I really don't have time to indulge in a nice long chat during the day. T _ T I got caught up in a lot of stuff during the summer, and my teachers are driving me crazy right now, so unfortunately, I can't meet up. I'd like to have a nice chat with you on the IRC during the summer! :D But I'm swamped with homework that I can't make time during the day.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 19:14, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
:::I just had a thought perhaps this would be a good opportunity to try out the discord channel. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 23:59, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
::That's completely fine, NinjaSheik! Believe me, I also understand the stress of college. Some of my assignments this semester are absolutely ridiculous! Good luck getting through school; I look forward to our conversation this summer :) - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 05:07, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
:::@Byzantinefire: I told you before I'm not interested in making an account on the Discord Channel. I always talk with EN on the IRC.
:::@EternalNothingnessXIII: Thanks! Likewise, EN. :)--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 22:33, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
::::Then who and when should it be tested by? {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 22:41, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
:::::Users who are actually interested in it. I'm not one of them, so please stop trying to push me into it.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 22:54, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

==Visit Pandora==
https://www.visitpandora.com Will you be visiting Animal Kingdom this summer? {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 06:07, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
:Unfortunately, no.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 22:55, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

==DisneySea Attraction Flows==
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7xFuQKHfiM
What are the chances of Attraction Flows based on Tokyo DisneySea rides are? {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 00:19, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
:Just had a thought perhaps if they add musical mini-games Compass of your Heart could be a song. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 00:24, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
::Hmm, 50% in response to the first question. As for the song, hmm...well, all Disney films are musical, but musical min-games are only featured in Atlantica. So, chances of that happening is...unlikely.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 20:41, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
:::You forgot about Ice Cream Beat in Disney town. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 21:12, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

==Need to talk==
Hey, I need to talk to you about something, but not ''here''.  Like, what's the best way to reach you privately?  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 22:09, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
:The IRC. If we can set up a meeting time, we can chat privately on the IRC.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 20:57, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
::How 'bout tonight, 11PM EST?  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 01:11, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
::That's 'round about two and a half hours as of this post.  So 4:00 UTC.  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 01:25, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
:::No can do, I'm afraid. :( Have college classes throughout the week and homework to do. It's better to schedule a meeting on the weekends. Is this something urgent you need to speak to me about? I can meet up at 9PM CT, which is 10PM EST (seems like we live in different timezones). Is that time slot okay?--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 01:27, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
:::Nah, it's not terribly urgent.  You know what would be the easiest thing?  If you like, had a devArt page, or even an email, where I can just privately send you a message any time and you can check it any time, y'know?  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 03:47, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
:::Yeah...  IRC isn't gonna work out.  Nobody responds there, Byz is spamming the channel with his discord link, aaaand....I'm pretty sure someone tried impersonating you.  :/  Just give me a link or something where I can privately message you (forewarning:  I'm NOT making a Fanfiction.net account).  If not, then just don't worry about it.  My mistake.  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 04:26, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
:::WHAT?!?! Someone's impersonating me? It can't be a good impersonation, I wager. Everyone on the wiki knows I don't just randomly show up on the IRC unless someone asks me to go there. I haven't even set foot in the IRC for over a year. And what's this about Byzantinefire spamming the channel with Discord links? Ugh, what is going on?! First of all, who the heck is impersonating me?! The only time where I thought was impersonating was Webber22, based off something he said during the ridiculous fiasco regarding him. I just figured he was sprouting more lies. The last time I was on the IRC was when I was talking to EN, but that was over a year ago. I don't frequent the IRC at all, and all of the veteran users know that. As for Byzantinefire, spamming is strictly against the rules. Ignis, do you frequently go the IRC? If you see Byzantinefire spamming the IRC, can you please take a screenshot and send it to me? There should be a mod monitoring the IRC to stop stuff like this from going on, but if there isn't, I'll leave a warning for Byzantinefire. As for the impostor, what is he or she doing under my username? I'd like to see some evidence this is actually going on. Identity theft is a serious matter, and should be dealt with accordingly.
:::I do have a deviantART account, but I go by a different name. What's your DA account? I'll contact you from there.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:24, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
::::Sigh for the record it was only one link and that does not count as spamming that is just making a mountain out of a mole hill. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 21:29, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
:::::And don't bother leaving messages on my wall i can read everything that transpires here. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 21:30, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
::::::Byzantinefire, it does sound like you're trying to advertise the Discord Channel. Please refrain from doing so on the IRC Channel. That seems a little inappropriate to do, as you already created forum about it. People on the IRC Channel go there to chat with other users, so please don't promote the Discord Channel on the IRC Channel.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:36, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
:::::::Fine but give Ignis a warning for pushing too many buttons i am quite angry right now because of him. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 21:38, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
::::::::I don't believe Ignis was trying to provoke you, but I will talk to him about making claims like this without any evidence to support it and exaggerating the situation.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:42, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
:::::::::Very well i accept. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 21:44, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
::::My dA account is on my front page lol, [[http://a-very-merry-q.deviantart.com/ but here it is anyway]].  Just send me a message and I'll respond!  And while I didn't take any screencaps, a dude going by "SilverCrono" basically answered as you then went completely silent.  I just didn't bother to stick around after that.  I honestly didn't think too much of it - not so much identity theft as a random, bored troll.  ^^;;  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 00:45, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
:::::SilverCrono? I know the username, though I don't know the user personally. Well, sockpuppeting and identity theft are serious matters, though, so users shouldn't go around doing things like that. Anyway, thanks for letting me know.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 22:49, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

== Do you play KHUX ==
We think we found your character.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 17:35, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
::Eh...? Due to my college schedule, I don't have time to play anything. I haven't touched KHUX/KHX, KH 0.2 BBS -AFP-, or even watched KHXBC. I really want to, but I just haven't had the time. T_T I'm planning to catch up with AFP and KHXBC during the summer, but right now, I really can't. So, whoever you found in KHUX isn't me.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 20:04, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
:::What is it with you and people impersonating you lol?  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 21:04, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
::::Eh, who knows?--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 23:22, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

==Charles Dance as Frollo==
Do you think [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47MazYDnmaU&t=168s he] would be a good choice if they were to to do a disney live action film adaptation? {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 21:39, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
::Uh...Byzantinefire, can you not link me to a clip from something as violent as ''Games of Thrones''? Two seconds after clicking the link, I exited out. I honestly don't indulge with speculating casting for films or TV shows. I pretty much go with the flow and hope that the directors of the films know what they're doing.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:43, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
:::Oh i didn't realize sorry about that i assume everyone is a GOT fan. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 21:45, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2MvYGl4dbs Try this, Ninja].  Some right proper British humour with Charles Dance.  Y'know, I actually lived in Cardiff for about 8 eight years (from 8!), so I have a welsh accent.  ...Even though I'm actually Norwegian.  XD  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 23:46, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
::::@Byzantinefire: I told you before not to assume things about people, Byzantinefire. I'm pretty sure I've mentioned this before, but just because something is popular, doesn't mean everyone will like it. Please stop assuming things about me.
::::@Ignis: Thanks, but to my perfectly blunt, I honestly don't care about about whether this Charles Dance gets the whole of Frollo or not. If you think he should get it, that's fine. If he does get the role, kudos to him. If not, it's no skin off my back. The Disney writers and directors doing these live-action films are doing their best to cast actors and actresses to star in them. So far, they've been doing a good job on them. I'll just leave them to it.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:54, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
:::::You're telling me this assuming that '''''I''''' care.  XD  Tisk tisk!  Scolding Byz for assumptions only to do the same yourself lol.  I just shared the video because it doesn't feature Charles Dance skinning a stag lol.  I have tact.  ;)  (For the record...off the record...Byz made a safe assumption.  You're definitely an odd duck if you ''aren't'' a GoT fan.  It's almost [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHVjs4aobqs inconceivable!]  But really though...''violence?''  Your fanfic bio says you're 21...  And on your interests, you listed freaking ''Drifters'' lol...)  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 02:30, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
::::::And yet you assume to give me a video link of an actor I said have no interest in, which I explicitly told Byzantinefire that I don't care who this guy is or if gets the role of Frollo? And what does age what to with anything? There's plenty of adults who hate watching shows that portrays excessive violence. It's like you are saying that all adults like thriller or horror films, which everyone does not. That's a huge assumption on anyone's part. Even for popular series like ''Star Trek'', ''Star Wars'', and ''Harry Potter'', I know people who never seen any of them. I don't understand why you think age and popularity automatically designates that everyone in the entire world watches something. Also, ''Drifters'' isn't as graphic as ''Games of Thrones'', which the latter highly reputed for its graphic violence, sexual violence, nudity, torture, and gore. [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0944947/parentalguide Compared to what I've read] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_of_Thrones#Reception_and_achievements about the graphic content of ''Games of Thrones''], ''Drifters'' is pretty tamed. So, don't even compare the two.
::::::I honestly don't understand why you, Ignis, and Byzantinefire assume that I'm interested in something without any evidence. PLEASE STOP ASSUMING THINGS ABOUT ME. I'm in the middle of midterms week, and I do not have the time to deal with this, so please stop.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:57, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
:::::::@Ignis and Byzantinefire I don't know why you're just keep assuming things about NinjaSheik for a few days. I just wish you could give her her own time alone. Unlike you two, I don't do that. [[User:Kunoichi101|Kunoichi101]] ([[User talk:Kunoichi101|talk]]) 02:04, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
:::::::EDIT:  I'm deleting my rant.  There's just no point in it.  I sent Ninja a PM on devArt - a more elegant solution for resolving stuff like this than publicly.  I'm done being nice, and social, and for the time being, I'm pretty much done with the wiki.  I've asked some friends on the Spriter's Resource to get the ball rolling in extracting the textures from the two games present in 2.8.  Once that's done, I'll come here and do my thing.  But until then, I have no interest in getting involved with any drama.  All I was trying to do was post a (hilariously) less violent alternative to Byz's video, but even that I can't do without someone getting upset or sensitive about it.  I can't create innocuous, blatantly jovial smalltalk without someone getting plussed.  And, apparently, I can't even say anything without someone assuming that I'm assuming something when I haven't even remotely cared enough to assume anything. --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 03:55, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
==Re:Warning==
I'm not really sure what to say. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 20:41, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
:Look, you never start a conversation with another user with malice. Your intentions are harmless, but further down the line, you become hostile when users don't agree with you. You need stop assuming things about other people, and pushing things onto them. Please work on improving your behavior in the future. As other users have told you before, not everyone is going to agree with your POV.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:29, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
::Well KHIII means an extremely huge deal to me so i want to avoid an unpleasant outcome as best as i can. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 22:02, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
:::Happy to hear it.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 22:36, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

== dA ==

I haven't shared your DA account with anyone, and I never will.  I simply sent you a message on there because I thought it ''more'' appropriate to resolve stuff like this privately than publicly - after all, our wiki doesn't have a private message system.  Publicly, it devolves into drama.  Drama is what bored people do.  You snapped at me, and it's true, I overreacted.  Considering the pressures you're going through, I'm willing to put all of that behind us.  Just please don't ever mistake my intentions ''ever'' again.  Carrying a normal conversation was all that I was going for.  If I'm guilty of assuming anything, it's that I ''assumed'' that would be a natural, easy thing to do around here.  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 20:51, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
:What you did was extremely inappropriate, Ignis. The content of your message was outright disrespectful to me and Byzantinefire. Cursing and insulting users in a PM offer nothing to resolve the situation. Please do not do that again.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:27, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
::I disagree.  I think that it's ''far'' more appropriate to contact you privately than to take this out ''publicly''.  The latter is nothing but an invitation for drama and it just makes this whole wiki look bad.  I'll apologize for the contents of my note - I overreacted.  But I'll never apologize for ''sending'' you a private message, instead of doing it in a place where everyone can see it.  It's just unprofessional and crude.  It's far better to be unprofessional and crude in a manner that's ''inclusive'' - that way, at least, nobody else gets dragged into it.  If you don't like my methods, well, it's your DA account.  You can always block me.  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 21:37, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
:::I already blocked you before coming onto the KHWiki today. In the future, contact me on the KHWiki. I don't appreciate you sending me an unprofessional and crude message where you throw the F-word around and insulted KHWiki users.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:57, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

==Re: Thanks ==
thnx for the reminder, just hope this thing won't happen ever again somehow. [[User:Kunoichi101|Kunoichi101]] ([[User talk:Kunoichi101|talk]]) 03:13, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

==IRC to Channels==
A week has passed does that mean a rename is given? {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 22:28, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
:You asked this, but then you change the move the page without waiting for me to reply? Well, I'm not aware of the renaming thing, since I paid no active part in that discussion about renaming it. I don't think it should be a problem, though, but you really should check with the rest of the community first.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 22:41, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
::That is why i waited a week as per TSH's Advice and i did. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 22:42, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
:::Okay...? So, why come to me, then? If that what TSH said, then why asked me? I mean, it doesn't really make sense since you moved the page bother waiting for a reply, anyway. Well, whatever. No one objected, so it's fine.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 20:08, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
::::S how should i nominate ops for the discord channel? 21:12, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
:::::Well, that's up to you, really. First, I would ask around to see who's available to monitor the channel. Nominating a user doesn't necessarily mean they want or have time to act as operator on the channel, after all. Make sure you check to see who is available.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 20:18, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
::::::So i'm allowed to send OP requests on a user talk page? {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 20:56, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
:::::::Ideally, you should start a topic discussion on the [[KHWiki_talk:Chat]] page and ask if anyone is interested in becoming an operator.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:33, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
::::::::Good suggestion. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 21:34, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
:::::::::Nothing has happened yet. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 21:46, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
::::::::::Maybe edit [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice|this]] and add the discussion to it. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 00:03, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
:::::::::::You're being a bit impatient, I think. You gotta give users a chance to reply, perhaps a week or two. Well, TSH updated the site notice for you.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:49, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
==NOW MY HANDS GET!!!!==
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzEKfFAbvNQ Your thoughts on this? {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 22:03, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
::I honestly don't care for Blackbeard's character songs.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 22:04, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
:::What about Garp's? {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 22:05, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
::::Not his, either. I don't listen to any of the OP characters' songs. The only OP songs I listen to are the openings and endings (when it still had endings).--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 22:18, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
:::::Do you still read and watch the series? {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 22:20, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
::::::Yes.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 20:17, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

== Kingdom Hearts Photobook ==

Okay, so I'm gonna be posting this on both your and Kryten's page since I don't know who will get to it first.  But anyway!  So there's this neat little idea I have.  :)  My friend Churro is putting together a Kingdom Hearts Photobook, featuring fanart, cosplay photos - all sorts of little doodads, which will then be printed in a hardcover book and be given to Nomura as a present!  [https://twitter.com/churroz/status/823371448257388544 Details on the book are right here.]  So anyway, I tossed an idea at Churro that maybe we all contribute something here - a message collage!  And he's more than cool with it...if ''you'' guys are.  :)  Basically what I want to do is put up a page on here where everyone can submit a short, written message they want to share.  All editors welcome!  Then I'll put the message into a nice little collage page - do my thang and make it suuuuper pretty and neat - and it'll represent all of us here at the KH Wiki!  :D  You up for it?  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 04:36, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
:Okay, project is a go ahead!  Now, I was intent on asking Kryten to write a short little paragraph on behalf of everyone here, but...eh, it's just not his thing.  :P  So as an admin, do you want to do it?  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 17:15, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
::The project sounds like a cool idea, so I have objections. Are you asking me to ask as a representative for the KHWiki? I don't think that's necessary, but let's see how many users decide to submit a message to Nomura-sensei first.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 22:05, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
:::You like it but you HAVE objections?  XD  Anyway, sure.  Yeah, more or less.  But if you don't want, I can just place something like "From all your friends and helpers at the KH Wiki!" or something.  There's still like two months to decide that bit lol.  In any case, I'll probably get started on the page tonight.  Will need some feedback on it later.  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 22:36, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
::::Well, I don't think we need a representative. We can have just a simple, generic thank-you message to Nomura-sensei from all of the users on the KHWiki. That'll be fine, right? Well, we'll see later on, perhaps.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 20:27, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
:::::That's what I currently have on the prototype page.  And yeah, I think it does the trick just fine at the end of the day.  I'll put it up once I clean up properly - give it shiny new borders and all.  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 03:22, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

==Reference Project==
I have a new sandbox project about KH references outside of the games can you name any other references that can be added? {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 20:18, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
:Nothing comes to mind at the moment.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 20:27, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

== Happy birthday ==

Happy birthday! {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 20:19, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

This isn't a April fools day joke is it? {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 20:21, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, THS. :D And no, it's not an April Fools' Day joke, Byzantinefire. If you checked my History page on my user page, I originally had a mini-profile on my user page, but I decided to take off because I was thinking about reformatting it later on. I decided to just add it back on since it's my birthday. All of the  active users on the KHWiki knows it's my birthday, too, since they've been around for a long time now.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 20:27, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
:Happy Birthday then. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 20:29, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
Happy birthday, m'lady! - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 20:51, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
:Happy Birthday Friend! :D {{User:Chainoffire/sig}} 03:29, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
::Thank you, everyone! :D--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 20:43, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
==Garp==
What are your thoughts on Monkey D. Garp? {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 20:33, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
:I like Garp-san as a character. He's really cool and funny, and I like that how, despite they fact he disapproves of Luffy and Ace's decision to be pirates, he was still proud of them and loved them. Of course, like a lot of fans, I have mixed feelings for Garp-san because of what happened with Ace.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 20:41, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
::Well Ace should have just ignored Akainu. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 23:00, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
:::Uh, that wasn't what I was referring to. A lot of fans know that what happened with Aces' death was partly his fault for giving into Akainu's provocations. But when it comes to Garp-san, fans have mixed feelings for him because he didn't do anything to help Ace escape, when he had plenty of chances to do so. Fans have pointed out that if Garp-san had helped Ace much, much earlier, then maybe Ace could've have lived.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 19:59, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
::::But would he have been able to get away with it? {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 20:15, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
:::::Who knows, maybe? What fans really judged Garp-san and his actions during the war at Marineford is that he chose duty over family. In spite of his love for Ace, he didn't really help him. Fans often debate if Garp-san's inability to act was justified, whether he should've abandoned his duty as a Navy soldier if meant saving he considered to be a member of his family. Even if they couldn't have gotten away of it, fans often talked about that Garp-san should have taken some sort of action to help Ace.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 20:39, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
::::::I'm curious to see what he is doing now. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 20:40, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
:::::::We'll see him sooner or later, canon-wise. He already made an appearance in the films that take place post-timeskip.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 20:31, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
==Question==
Question is what Ignis said [https://www.khwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk%3ASymbols_in_the_Kingdom_Hearts_series&type=revision&diff=721354&oldid=721348 here] count as a personal attack? {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 22:05, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
:Oh ''hell no''.  Ninja, if you fall for this, I'm ''done''.  No more extracting assets from 1.5.  No more asking friends for favors.  No more anything.  I'm NOT gonna contribute and help around here while this little dritt interferes ''ever fucking time''.  WAKE UP and see this scumbag for what he is:  An attention whoring little pest who does NOTHING but bother people, ''you included'', and plays the victim the second someone brings it up.  He hasn't done SHIT on here ''except'' cause trouble.  And I am NOT dealing with this anymore.  I want to trust your better judgment but I'm going straight to Kryten over this.   --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 22:28, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
::Ignis, you told him to shut up. You can't say that to a user, who is voicing his disapproval of the use of profanity, which, by the way, no one ''should'' be using on the wiki, especially during page discussions. You telling him that ''was'' a personal attack, though I was simply going to scold you for doing so. The fact you just called Byzantinefire "an attention whoring little pest" definitely counts as an personal attack.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 22:37, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
:::As far as I'm aware, we've never had a no profanity rule, and Ignis wasn't even using profanity against another editor, but merely to add emphasis to a plot element. What Ignis said in ''response'' to Byzantine's PA accusation certainly qualifies as PA though, ironically enough.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 15:06, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
::::As the KHWiki lacks its own set of guidelines, I know there isn't a rule against using profanity. However, it is exactly because the KHWiki lacks any clear guidelines, I have always operated under [http://www.wikia.com/Terms_of_Use the universal guidelines set by the Central Wikia, as majority of the wikias do use]. It is commonly understood by the users here that, despite not being affiliated with the Central Wikia, we typically follow the standard rules set for all wikia communities. I find this to be an issue, considering that aside from the standard rules, a lot of wikias come up with their own policies to dictate their communities. However, a common rule across wiki is the simple: Assumed good faith and keep all discussions (on users' talk pages and articles' discussion pages) civilized. Using profanity goes ''against'' that policy. Under the Terms of Use, it states that users should not "post or transmit any content that is obscene, pornographic, abusive, offensive, profane, or otherwise violates any law or right of any third party, or content that contains homophobia, ethnic slurs, religious intolerance, or encourages criminal conduct".
::::From personal experience on other wikias, when the communities allow users to use profanity on their wikias, they all but give permission to the users to behave uncivilly, resulting in misconduct to the point they can't even separate a personal attack from a regular comment. Using profanity on wikias is something I always disagreed with, though if other users wish to do so on their own talk pages, they are free to do as long as they're ''not'' using it to personally attack others. However, page discussions, by default, are meant to be kept civilized. Using profanity destroys that peace and offends other users.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 17:45, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
:::::If you wish to propose such a rule, that's your prerogative. However, we ''absolutely do not have such a rule'', and Byzantine was clearly provoking Ignis by inserting himself in the discussion to criticize that, especially in light of how you had ''just recently'' informed him that doing so would lead to him being blocked temporarily. Ignis's reaction to Byzantine's provocation was beyond the pale, but that doesn't change that Byzantine still very blatantly broke the existing rules, and per your own warning, should receive a temporary block.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 20:36, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
:::::::I don't take kindly to blocks and also i was asking a simple question to NinjaShiek about language and personal attacks. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 21:16, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
::::::::The fact that the KHWiki lacks any clear guidelines poses a serious problem. If we don't have any clear guidelines, what else is there to operate under besides the basis of all wikia communities' guidelines set out by the Central Wikia? Half of the time, the users don't even follow the guidelines "established" on the KHWiki, such dismissing our three-strike policy and outright banning users for the smallest offences by giving them longer block/ban than absolutely necessary. A good example is shown here by [[User:Chupi615|this user]], who [https://www.khwiki.com/index.php?title=Kingdom_Hearts_III&diff=722068&oldid=720410 inserted false information regarding KHIII, and was blocked for ONE MONTH for such a minor violation instead of simply putting up a warning on the user's talk page]. 

::::::::Pushing that aside, I mentioned before to Byzantinefire that I've debated whether or not I should give him a warning for his remark to Ignis, because the intent behind such action and the message can be interpreted differently. Byzantinefire says he his intention has not to provoke Ignis, but I can see why it can appear otherwise. Byzantinefire is almost always been a victim of Ignis's verbal abuse on the wiki, and the latter makes it no secret that he tried desperately hard to get Byzantinefire blocked/banned from the wiki, for things that Byzantinefire did that were 100% harmless and other users had no problem with. The "provocation" was so light, however, the worse that Byzantinefire could have gotten was just another warning, following proper protocol. If he had done much worst, he would've gotten a two-week block like Ignis was supposed to get originally. However, this wiki has always advocated for a peaceful solution rather than outright banning users, opting to calmly talk to the conflicting parties down instead, which is why we have the Heartless Manufactory and the "assumed good faith" policy. 

::::::::In any case, as seen above, while Byzantinefire claims he did not mean to provoke Ignis, and despite already lecturing Byzantinefire on being more mindful on his behavior, he will receive a temporary block. I wish to remain fair, taking in the opinions of all involving parties. For something like this, it's bit difficult, given the circumstances and I do not wish spring something that has been resolved already for two weeks, nor do I mean to offend you, Byzantinefire, but regardless of your intentions, you shouldn't have done what you did. It is because I've seen similar instances where users will chide another users for using profanity on other wikis, because it violates the general policy set out by the Central Wikia, which establishes the basis of all wikia communities' guidelines, I didn't think you were trying to provoke Ignis. I do agree that you shouldn't have said that in an article's discussion page, but I never believed something so minor warranted a ban since I "assumed goof faith with you". Please understand that this isn't personal.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 19:36, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
:::::::::To clarify, the reason I blocked that user for a month is that he inserted that false information right after creating an account, and the information he added (kh3 being released on 3ds) isn't even possibly true, so I figured he was a vandal or troll or whatever you call it. I'm all for the three strikes rule, but not for vandals and such. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 19:48, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
::::::::::I understand that the user inserted false information, but I disagree with the length of the block. Keep in mind that is a possibility that the user could have simply been misinformed and assumed good faith, as the general wiki policy dictate. Besides, even if the user's intention was to be a troll, the only thing the user did was put in three words: "and Ninentdo 3DS". Was something as minor as that truly warranted a month ban when a simple warning would have sufficed? I have disagreed with some of the bans performed by some of the users here, but I don't really make it a policy to insert myself in the decision made by other members of the staff when users violate the policies the wiki. I do believe, however, in certain instances, that the block/ban of users should be handle on a case-by-case basis and should vary depending on the level of offence, when motives are properly examined, and we consider the fact some people do not mean any harm and are being misinformed. It won't be the first time rumors spread that a game series would be available on a certain platform, which turned out to be false, after all.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 20:17, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
:::::::::::I realize I might have been too strict on that user. I unblocked him and left him a message to use reliable sources next time. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 21:06, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
:"The fact that the KHWiki lacks any clear guidelines poses a serious problem."
::It means that such behavior is not explicitly against the rules.
:"However, this wiki has always advocated for a peaceful solution rather than outright banning users, opting to calmly talk to the conflicting parties down instead, which is why we have the Heartless Manufactory and the "assumed good faith" policy. "
::The fundamental component to that is the offending party accepting that they did indeed violate the rules. Byzantine has explicitly claimed that he is "guiltless", and has gone on to post on my talk page complaining that I would dare to suggest sanctions on him. Whatever the severity of the violation, he has shown ''absolutely no remorse'', meaning forgiveness is not physically possible. Lengths of measures are not meant to be based on severity, they're meant to be on how long it takes the offending user to fix their behavior. If we have a user that posts hate speech once, shows remorse, and learns from it, a one-week block would be reasonable, as compared to a lifetime ban for a user who persistently and with absolute refusal to change miscapitalizes words. The entire purpose of blocking is to be rehabilitative, not punitive, and if rehabilitation isn't happening then the block is not long enough.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 21:13, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
:::Byzantine does understand he has violated the policy and why he's being blocked. Your entitled to your opinion regarding the block policy, though I disagree with it. Lengths of a block should be measured based on severity of the offence and how long it takes an offending user to fix their behavior. Not everyone is the same, because each individual will have their opinions and personalities, and sometimes just talking to someone rather than outright banning them since it could help them understand why their behavior is inappropriate. This is going to into a huge speech, so I'm just stop right here and put this to rest.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 22:05, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
 
===Question II===
:Would it be alright with you if can archive my user talk page? {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 18:02, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
::Sure, I don't mind, but why ask me? You don't need permission to archive your talk page, just make sure you don't delete content from it.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 18:08, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

== Freedom? ==

{{ENX|time=02:19, 12 May 2017 (UTC)|text=Hey there! I see you're done with classes and exams! So am I! Would you like to schedule an IRC meeting so we can finally discuss that favor you wanted to ask me? I completely understand if you're still busy, though.}}
{{NinjaSheik|text=Hiya! :) Long time no speak. Yeah, I'd love to have a nice long chat with you soon. When are you free? You probably have a lot of things to do catch up on over the summer ('cause I sure do). I can't come to the IRC tonight, but maybe on Saturday? I think we share the same timezone, so maybe somewhere around in the afternoon/evening?}}
{{ENX|time=06:17, 13 May 2017 (UTC)|text=My time zone is EST. That said, I have my graduation ceremony in the morning, but after that, I should be free to chat :)}}
{{NinjaSheik|happy=Oh, congratulations! Let's see, my time zone is CT. Are you free to meet up on Sunday around 5:00-ish (CT)? That makes it 6:00 in your time zone. If that doesn't work, that's fine. We both just got off from college, after all, so we'll have plenty of time in the summer to chat.}}
{{ENX|time=21:07, 14 May 2017 (UTC)|text=Thanks! 6:00 EST should be fine :) Let me know when you are heading to the IRC by leaving a message on my talk page. I will then come meet you there!}}
{{NinjaSheik|text=Okay, then, I'll meet you at 5:00 CT (6:00 EST), then. I'm pretty punctual, so just let's just meet at the designated time. :)}}
{{ENX|time=22:46, 14 May 2017 (UTC)|text=The IRC seems to be having some problems. I sent you a private message, but you are not responding. Is everything okay on your end?}}
{{ENX|time=23:43, 14 May 2017 (UTC)|text=Sorry I was gone so long. Don't worry about having to leave. I hope you have a nice dinner :) If you want to talk more later tonight, feel free to leave me a message. If you would like to talk another day, I am free until Wednesday!}}
{{NinjaSheik|text=It's fine. Sorry again about leaving since I had to go to dinner. Unfortunately, my sister and I have plans for the rest of the rest of the summer, and other projects to work on, so I don't know when I'll be free to chat again on the IRC. ^_^; I'll let you know when I do, though. See you around the wiki!}}
{{ENX|time=02:52, 16 May 2017 (UTC)|text=Sounds good. See you around!}}
==Auto Welcome Message==
Portle has made an automatic welcome message function. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 20:34, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
:Okay.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 20:05, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
:Just to clarify, I put the welcome template [[MediaWiki:Welcomecreation-msg|here]]. As a result, every new user is immediately redirected to a page that shows only the welcome template right after creating their account. The idea was that this would save on all the welcome template talk pages. --[[User:Porplemontage|Porplemontage]] ([[User talk:Porplemontage|talk]]) 19:44, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
::Ah, I see. When Byzantinefire said automatic welcome message, I thought it was like the automatic welcome system on wikia, when new editors edit for the first time, and they automatically get a welcome message on their talk page. When I saw that user's talk page didn't have one, even the user made edits, I thoughts that something went wrong with the automatic message function. Thanks for informing me.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 20:03, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

== Byzantine ==

Gonna be frank, here, Byzantine broke a warning that ''you yourself'' had laid down, after repeated instances of bad behavior, with clearly stated consequences for his behavior. It's really disheartening that, instead of telling him "look, you broke the rules, please learn from it", your message to him was coddling him, making excuses for him, and generally doing everything you could to remove any sort of responsibility or agency from him.

I don't think any of us are in disagreement that Ignis's response to Byzantine was absolutely intolerable. However, ''that does not excuse Byzantine's behavior''. Hell, similar shenanigans didn't even excuse ''my or DTN's behavior'', when we were banned in the past. It's not helping Byzantine to tell him that he's not responsible for his own misbehavior -- it's enabling him to continue performing it and causing the same trouble in the future with other editors.

Ignis fucked up, majorly, and should probably not return to this wiki ever, but Byzantine's little game of "I'm not touching you" is really unimpressive and shouldn't be overlooked or swept under the rug.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 21:03, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
::Please do not throw accusations around. Last I checked, showing compassion and understanding isn't a crime. I have told Byzantine many times that he hasn't shown exemplary behavior and that he should be more mindful on he conduct himself. I am ''not'' making excuses for him, but what I am saying that I ''understand'' why he behaved the way he did and how everything came to pass between him and Ignis. No one is removing him from any sort of responsibility. Have you read to everything that occurred between Byzantine and Ignis? Was Byzantinefire a victim of Ignis's abuse? Yes, he was, and if you see the discussions, then the evidence is quite clear. I am not enabling to continue his behavior, and warned him repeatedly to be mindful of his behavior in the future. Regardless of what you may think, he has shown to be capable of remorse. He apologized to me when he behaved rudely to me once, and to Ultima Spark when he personally attacked her. I ''do'' acknowledge he becomes unreasonably aggressive and emotional, so he isn't free from blame, and I never make excuses for him that, but I tried to understand his point of view. Compassion and understanding isn't a crime, and it works a lot better than outright banning people for even the tiniest of things, especially since in the past, he has made a conscious effort to correct his behavior.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 22:28, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
:::"I am ''not'' making excuses for him"
::::Your block notice to him started off with noting that you think the decision to block him was symptomatic of "a corrupted wiki", then you spent the majority of your post talking about how it feels wrong to judge him and that you feel his behavior has improved. You spent the majority of the post blaming a third editor, which was inappropriate -- Byzantine's sanction was about ''his'' behavior, and any mention of other editors should only have come up in order to ''rebut'' any claims Byz was making about how others' behavior excused his own (as I did with Ignis -- I brought up Byz ''only'' to note that the complaints Ignis had made about him were irrational and unacceptable). You even finished up with throwing ''this wiki's'' reputation under the bus.
:::"Was Byzantinefire a victim of Ignis's abuse?"
::::''That is entirely irrelevant to Byz's block''. Bringing that up in the first place is the ''entire'' reason I'm troubled about how you handled this.
:::"he has shown to be capable of remorse"
::::He claimed he was utterly guiltless, then took the time to come to my talk page, make accusations to me about how I'm such a villain for pointing out he broke the rules, then made veiled threats when I responded that the offense he has taken doesn't change that he broke the rules. Ninja, that's not showing remorse. That's not even trying to keep his head down to avoid the line of fire again.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 14:48, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
:::::You are misinterpreting my message to him. The beginning part of my message was simply me recounting past experiences when something like this takes place, because stuff like takes place on corrupted wikis. Because the situation is very messy and goes down south very quickly, just like what is happening now. When I told Byz that I was aware of his past transgressions, that was to acknowledge the fact he has shown bad behavior in the past, but has shown noticeable improvement since then. When dealing with the spats between Byz and Ignis, I did not want to judge Byz's past actions with what went on with Ignis when it's clearly shown that he made an effort to correct his behavior. What I meant is this: I have always assumed good faith with both Byz and Ignis, not letting both of their past actions dictate my point of view of them and tried to understand both side of the conflict between them. When things escalated between them, the situation got worse, because Ignis continued to try to get Byz banned and Byz responded to his belligerent behavior. However, many times when Byz and Ignis got into fights, it was because Ignis butted in and provoked Byz when all Byz wanted was to talk to someone, acknowledging during many of conflicts between them, wasn't supposed to result in a spat. Byz is responsible for reacting to Ignis's misbehavior, as well as reacting aggressively when someone doesn't agree with him. That isn't excusing him for anything, but I showed that understand the circumstances.
:::::Now you're making this about me saying the wiki is corrupted? All wiki communities are corrupted. Everyone knows that, and the KHWiki is no different. The only difference between wiki communities that some wikis are more corrupted than others. That doesn't come as a surprise to anyone.
:::::Byzntinefire is capable of showing remorse. When he willingly accepted the block, I took that as a sign he understood why he was being blocked. He didn't fight back against it or argue. When he didn't do that, that was proof that he was accepting the consequences of his actions, before you continued to antagonize him. He said he was guiltless before I blocked him, but afterwards, he didn't said a word of fighting back against the block, which again, shown that he accepts the consequences and perfectly willingly to to carry about the block in peace, before you antagonize him. Looking on his talk page, he has even acknowledge that his behavior is wrong and he's attempting to improve himself, difficult at is for him. That does show he is capable of feeling remorse.
:::::And you are in no position to accuse me of "coddling" Byztinefire after what happened with Webber22. I was ''severely'' disappointed/disheartened how you and the other staff members handled that incident, coddling Webber22 and seeking to compromise with a user who shown ''zero'' remorse, up til the very end, for anything and threw slurs, insults, hate speech, and baseless accusations for DAYS on end before Webber22 turned his aggression towards the rest of you and finally got blocked.
:::::The idea of blocking Byz simply because of minor remark about the use of profanity come off as completely ridiculous to me. Whether it was meant to be a provocation or not, I wanted to handle the situation ''peacefully''. Operating under the Terms of Use, the universal guidelines for any wiki community, which I believed the KHWiki continued to operate under since lacking clear guidelines of their own, since I didn't see it as a provocation at first. Even if it was a provocation, a warning would have been sufficient. Afterwards, while I didn't feel good about it, I blocked Byz, because he should have just avoided Ignis, even if he "claimed" that he didn't mean to offend Ignis. And again, he didn't fight against it or argue back, showing he's willingly to accept the consequences and carried out the block quietly. He said he was guiltless and went on your talk page before the block, but again, when the block actually happened, he accept the block and would have continued to carry out peacefully. Again, pointing of the recent messages on his talk page, he has acknowledged his misbehavior and is attempting to improve himself, even after you blocked him indefinitely. He has accepted the consequences and is willingly to move past this. He's willingly to move on from it now, as am I. Please do the same and let this issue go, because there's nothing left to resolve now that Byz has accepted the consequences and acknowledged his own misbehavior.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 19:35, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
:"You are misinterpreting my message to him."
::Granted and retracted, but I still feel it muddies the waters to be giving justifications for a user's bad behavior in the process of blocking them.
:"he didn't said a word of fighting back against the block" / :"now that Byz has accepted the consequences and acknowledged his own misbehavior."
::He barely posted anything after the block actually happened, this is correct, but I don't actually see evidence of him recognizing he did anything wrong. The block's not meant to be something "accepted", it's meant to be a last ditch measure to force the offender to focus on the ''actual'' issue which was causing problems. I apologize for confusing the order of events and thinking that the post to my talk page was post-your discussion with him.
:Webber22
::I am trying to hold Byz to the same guidelines I held Webber and Ignis and all other conflicting editors to -- pointing out their bad behavior, giving them the chance to recognize said bad behavior, and allowing their block to end if they fix their behavior. If you feel that I failed to defend you from Webber once I became aware of the issue or am treating Byz to different standards than Webber, please let me know.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 20:05, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
:::Byz promised to work on correcting on his behavior, so are you still going to ban him indefinitely? 
:::I am sick of the twisted morals and double standards the community goes by. [[User talk:Webber22|You and the rest of the staff members involved with the incident with Webber22 sought to coddle and compromise with a user who, again, showed ''zero'' remorse, up til the very end, for anything and threw slurs, insults, hate speech, and baseless accusations before Webber22 turned his aggression towards the rest of you and he finally got blocked permanently. Who, despite being blocked a few times before, shown no improvement of correcting his behavior ''at all'', and the users allowed this mistreatment to continue on for DAYS]]. Yet, you are so quick to ban Byz, without seeking a "compromise" or attempting to understand him, when he was willingly to stand down and accept his punishment quietly without so much of a word of compliant once the block actually happened. Unlike Webber22 and [[User talk:Ignis|Ignis]], who continued to slur, insult, disrespect, showed malicious behavior towards other users, and abused multiple IP addresses even after they were blocked, Byz was prepared to take the block quietly and without resistance. It showed he accepted the consequences of his misbehavior, and he openly declared that will at least ''try'' to improve himself. If he's willingly to acknowledged his misbehavior, to accept his punishment, promised to try to correct his behavior, he doesn't deserve to be blocked permanently, especially since you misinterpreted the events of what happened. If Byz returns after his block is over and continues to misbehave, will be held accountable for his actions and will be blocked permanently if, ''and only if'', he continues to persist in bad behavior. If he is willingly to improve himself, then we should at least give him a chance to prove it.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 20:25, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
:::<s>I'm not seeing where he shows understanding of what he did wrong. The closest I'm seeing is him saying "I'll try to avoid entanglements", which is ''not'' what got him in trouble. Look, it's not about "who did the more heinous thing", it's about "who seems willing to address it". Webber and Ignis were given some small leeway as long as they seemed willing to discuss -- as soon as it became clear they had no intention to, they were banned. I made that clear multiple times in the discussions. Ignis popped up again recently under an IP, and because he clearly demonstrated absolutely no inclination to change, he was immediately banned. The same was done with Byz, even though his misdeed was far less heinous.</s>
::::It looks like you've already communicated this to him, so nevermind I guess. Hopefully he listens.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 12:58, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

I hate to continue this discussion, but I do think Byz's block time should be set to 2 weeks after he first got blocked. His block was moved to indefinite because it was uncertain he understood what he did, but now that that is no longer the case, I feel he should be set back to the original block time, rather than block him for two weeks from that moment on. I'm not sure how this is handled in the US, but where I live, if you are sent to jail for 6 months, for example, but already spend 1 month waiting for the trial, you only have to go to jail for 5 months, so you end up at 6 months total. I feel we should handle it like that here. If he did something that deserves a two week block, we should give him a two week block and not a three week one. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 13:00, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
:You're asking for it to be set to one week because Kryten's indefinite block lasted for about half a week before I changed it back to its original timeslot, right? Truthfully, I was debating whether or not to revert it to one week, but when I saw that Byz attempted to hide/remove the messages on his talk page, which everyone knows isn't allowed, I stuck with the two weeks for trying to get rid of evidence for his misbehavior. Whether or not he felt "baited", removing messages from a user's talk page, even it's your own, is against the rules. [https://www.khwiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Byzantinefire&diff=722118&oldid=722117 Not to mention his previous hostile messages towards Kryten]. That's why I stuck with the two weeks block.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 18:45, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
::Actually, I would want to set it to the original block time, which would have ended today or tomorrow. However, I can see that the hostile messages would prolong the block. I'm not sure about the hiding of talk page content, though. We never block for that, and he only hid it, instead of deleting. Maybe it should have made clear he was blocked longer for those reasons. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 19:29, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
:::To clarify, [https://www.khwiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Byzantinefire&diff=722373&oldid=722371 Byz did remove messages from his talk page first, claiming that reason for doing was because he was "baited"]. [https://www.khwiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Byzantinefire&diff=next&oldid=722373 He then decided to hide the messages as a better alternative]. There's no rules about hiding content, I believe, but him removing it is, in fact, against the rules. Plus, taking in consideration his hostile messages before I talked to him, which is the main reason why I chose to change back his original block to two weeks, is why the original block has remained. While KrytenKoro might have misinterpreted the order of events, it doesn't change the fact Byz responded with hostility, which landed him in trouble with Ignis and caused this whole mess in the first place.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 19:41, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
::::I personally have no problem, in principle, with it going back to one week, or even expiring immediately if Byz makes it clear he understands which specific things he did wrong and makes a commitment not to do them again (perhaps involving staying away from talk pages for a while to temper bad habits, etc.). What I was annoyed by was Byz asking for it because the existing length inconvenienced his original plans -- which appeared to me like a kid saying "okay, I know you said I don't get dessert because I set the microwave on fire, but I ''reaaaaally'' want a cookie tho".
::::If y'all want to reduce his block, I'm not going to fight it -- the staff works by consensus, not fiat. But I absolutely will be keeping an eagle eye on him for the next time it looks like he hasn't learned from his previous blocks. It's one thing to truly believe in what you're doing and simply be monstrously wrong, something for which I personally try to extend a lot of forgiveness, but it's another thing to act insincere and conniving to exploit the rules, and Byz better make sure he falls into the first one.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 21:33, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
:::::I agree with Kryten on that point. I'm willingly to change the block back to one week if, and ONLY IF, he does these two things:
:::::1.) Give a well-crafted, ''sincere'' apology to Kryten. While Kryten might have misinterpreted the order of the events, Byz responded with hostility and attempted to remove/hide the evidence of that hostility taking place while claiming he was being "baited". His "persecution complex" isn't an excuse. Therefore, point two:
:::::2.) As Kryten said, Byz needs to make it ''very'' clear he understands which specific things he did wrong and makes a commitment not to do them again. While Ignis went completely overboard with his behavior and actions, he wasn't the only user who expressed annoyance that Byz is simply using the KHWiki as a social media site and barely contributing, concerning himself with only advertising for another wikia and the Discord Channel. While there may not be any rules about advertising, Byz's bad habit of going to other users' talk pages and pestering them about things they don't care for has been vocalized by other users, not just Ignis, and that has been the exact source of many of the disputes between Byz and Ignis which started this mess in the first place. As Kryten said, he needs stay away from talk pages in order to temper his bad habits. 
::::::Additionally, Byz's request to reduce the timespan of the block is very conniving, and will not be tolerated. He cannot expect for his block to reduce simply because he ''asked'', without apologizing to Kryten for his words and understanding that removing hostile messages on his talk page, thus violating another wiki rule, and then hiding the evidence of it, all the while he was being "baited", is ''unacceptable''.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 20:47, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

== Re: Photobook ==

Thanks for the info! I've actually already contacted him via The Keyhole's Twitter account, since we've interacted a bit using that account. Thanks for the info though! {{User:Chainoffire/sig}} 07:12, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

No problem. :)--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 19:21, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

== Ava Ira ==
It's written really, really unclearly, but Ava disguises herself as Ira for that scene.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 21:15, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
::Ah, I see. I thought that was weird. If Ava was in disguise, I'm little surprised that the user who originally wrote it didn't put that in the text. Thanks for letting me know. :)--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 19:59, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

== Wiki facebook group ==

Just realized you weren't already on this.

Can you please use the wiki e-mail feature to e-mail me your facebook url, if you're interested in being part of the wiki facebook group?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 21:26, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
::Thanks for alerting me, but I don't have a Facebook account. ^_^;--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 19:16, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
::It would really help if you created one, even if it's just for this and doesn't use your real name.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 20:56, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
:::I'm not fond of social media sites like Facebook, so I must respectfully decline. I don't think I will be able to contribute anything to it, anyhow.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 19:05, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
::::Okay. Most of the other active editors are on it, so there'll be a lot of discussion without you. That being said, [https://www.facebook.com/help/messenger-app/1526848634305688 you seriously don't need to use social media to be on messenger].{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 20:14, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
:::::It's fine. Thanks for informing me, anyway. :)--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 19:27, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

== Affiliate question ==

Hey, so I noticed you mentioned an affiliate about 2 years ago with a podcast that does some pretty legit-sounding interviews. Do you know what happened with that? Sorry if it was already clarified elsewhere, I was already gone by then, so I don't know if you already said what happened or not. {{KeybladeSpyMaster/Sig}} 19:23, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
:Ah, I was just about to reply to your post on the talk page over there. :D Regarding the Final Fantasy Union, I never approached them with an affiliation request, because the only one who answered my suggestion was TheFifteenthMember, so at the time, I was waiting for more input before I asked FFU about affiliating with us. No one else ever did, so it was kind of just dropped. ^_^; I still think it'd be good to affiliate with them, though. But as a community, that isn't just my call to make. I'll bring it up on the talk page. :)--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 19:28, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

== Moderation ==

Due to recent vandalism, we've installed a new extension, which allows us to check all edits done by IPs and new users before they are being published. To check these edits, you have to go to [[Special:Moderation]]. There you can choose to either approve or reject them. All edits done by auto-confirmed users will publish like normal, and all admins and mods can approve or reject the pending edits. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 17:02, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
::Whoa, neat! This is great. :D Thank you for informing me of this. I wonder if it'll possible to install an abuse filter. I know a few wikis use it, but I wonder how effective it'll be. Plus, I really don't know much about it, anyway. ^_^; In any case, thank you for letting me know.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 18:49, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

== Ansem, Seeker of Darkness ==

That seemed like a weird edit for you. Was it a clerical error?[[User:Cloudtheavenger|Cloudtheavenger]] ([[User talk:Cloudtheavenger|talk]]) 18:40, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
::Ah, my bad. I didn't see that the Wikipedia link there since I was multitasking. Sorry about that.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 20:17, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
:::That may have been my fault. I accidentally put it in as "Casual link" rather than "Causal link". I fixed it after seeing that link didn't lead anywhere.[[User:Cloudtheavenger|Cloudtheavenger]] ([[User talk:Cloudtheavenger|talk]]) 01:14, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

== Congrats ==
hey guys! how're you two doing? i heard you're going to graduate next week so sending you some congrats :) [[User:Kunoichi101|Kunoichi101]] ([[User talk:Kunoichi101|talk]]) 08:41, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
:Yo, Kunoichi! :D Long time no speak. My sister and I are doing well! Thank you for congratulating me on my upcoming graduation. There's still a lot things I have to do in December, due to the fact that my schoolwork prevented me keeping up with a lot my interests. Plus, I'm going to look for a job now. ^_^; I'll definitely try to be on the KHWiki more, though. How about you? You done with the semester yet? :)--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:19, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
::yeah, I finished this fall semester. I only got one class to retake, but I passed. :D [[User:Kunoichi101|Kunoichi101]] ([[User talk:Kunoichi101|talk]]) 07:48, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
:::Good to hear. :)--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:55, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

==Images==
Hi, I have a question, but I wasn't sure who to ask, you've just been really active lately as far as admins go so I figured you'd be a good place to start. Anyway, I play Union Cross a lot and take a lot of screenshots - I've set up my account so that my "Player" (that's even his name too) is the standard male outfit you're provided with - the only personalized thing I have really is my Dream Eater - which in my screenshots I make sure is a Pupstar; though screenshots with my Pupstar in them are few and far between anyway. I was just wondering if I could put them toward the wiki's use in any way since there are only really pictures from Back Cover and not anything really from the rest of the Chi saga.
([[User:Levi657|Levi657]] ([[User talk:Levi657|talk]]) 23:56, 11 December 2017 (UTC))
:Yeah, of course. :) As long as the images follow the image policy and are in high quality, users are free to upload pictures from the games that could potentially used in the articles. Just remember that when uploading images, make sure the images serve an important illustration purpose. In the end, if users have problems with an image, they'll bring it and whether or not to keep the image is up for the community to decide. But again, as long as the images are taken from the games, are of HD quality, and follow the image policy, it's fine. SiHowever, since KHX/Union Cross is a RPG, make sure that official images are taken without personalization. 
:Oh, before I forget! I've been meaning to ask you something, too. I noticed when you add information to the KHX articles, you use the U.K. English (or International English) spelling and grammar. That means you're not from the U.S.? I just wanted to tell you that the KHWiki uses American, we use American spelling and grammar rules, with a few exceptions. Thank you for all of your hard work on the KHWiki! :D--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 22:05, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
Is it alright if I do a mass-upload to the gallery page of Union Cross and then decide from there where to put the images (i.e. world pages, character pages)? Yeah I know, I'm sorry about that, I'm from Canada so I don't even realize that I'm doing it, I'll try to be more aware of it while I'm writing :P ([[User:Levi657|Levi657]] ([[User talk:Levi657|talk]]) 22:32, 12 December 2017 (UTC))
:Yeah, some of our active users do mass-uploads from time to time. Just remember to include a fair use rationale template and a licensing template when you upload images, as shown [[:File:Pink Pupstar (Spirit) KHUX.png|here]]. If you don't have it, it'll violate copyrights and can't be used in articles and be nominated for deletion.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 22:51, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
Alright, thank you for all your help :) one last thing, since Union Cross uses a text-based communication system, would it be preferred if I edited the text within the cutscenes out, or would it be better to leave it in? ([[User:Levi657|Levi657]] ([[User talk:Levi657|talk]]) 23:03, 12 December 2017 (UTC))
:Leave it as it. It's part of the game's system, after all, so there's nothing wrong with it.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 23:08, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
==Merchandise==
Hello again, I'm finally back from holidays and intend on continuing with the organization of the Union Cross images, but I also have another question concerning merchandise. I wanted to address the plush figures released, particularly the Shadow Heartless and Meow Wow Dream Eater from 2012, the Dusk Nobody from 2013, the Flood Unversed from 2015, and the Chirithy Dream Eater from 2016 - all sold by Square Enix. I can supply articles from KHInsider covering each of them if need be (I also as of now own Chirity and Meow Wow). As well there is a recent upcoming release for the Foretellers's Keyblades as Keychains coming March 2018. Furthermore there are images missing from the Play Arts Kai page and I was just wondering if these were oversights or simply something that no one has covered yet. [[[[User:Levi657|Levi657]] ([[User talk:Levi657|talk]]) 21:56, 2 January 2018 (UTC)]]
:It's the latter. By all means, add information and images of the merchandise for the franchise onto the articles. :D We're not very good at covering merchandise for the series, since most of us don't keep up with their releases in Japan, and we focus more on adding game-related content, so it's typically overlooked. ^_^;--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:11, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

==Heartless==
May I inquire about the Heartless page? I'm simply wondering about the Raid Bosses (Darkside, Darkside Ω, Lion Headliner, Behemoth, Destroyed Behemoth, Hocus Pocus, Guard Armor, Guard Armor Ω, Sinister Sweets, Spiteful Sweets, Trickmaster, Trickmaster Ω, Egg Master, Jack in the Box, Trident Tail, Trident Tail Ω, Red Trident Tail, Green Trident Tail, Blue Trident Tail, Submarine Carp, Savage Spider, Venomous Spider, Scourge Spider, Malicious Spider, Enraged Arachnid, Fortress Crab, Fortress Crab Ω, Circus Crab, Queen Bee, Queen Bee Ω, Gummi Hound, Assault Dragon, Closehanded Captain, Adventurer, Jewel Sorceress, Jewel Princess, Gear Golem, Loudness March, Heartless Tsums, and Furious Whole Cake). A fair number of the Raid Bosses are composed of Heartless piloting a larger vessel. The Raid Bosses also rarely crossover into the actual story of Kingdom Hearts χ and Kingdom Hearts Union χ. Exceptions to this include the Darkside, Behemoth, Guard Armor, and Trickmaster (all of which are already bosses in other games and would thus remain where they are), and the Guard Armor Ω, Trickmaster Ω, Savage Spider, Wicked Spider, Fortress Crab, and Queen Bee I believe. I propose moving the later 6 and the rest of the Raid Bosses introduced in the χ saga to their own section, much like the way that the Gummi Heartless are set up now. You may also note that in KHInsider's artwork section for KHUχ, they also keep the Raid Bosses separate from the rest of the Heartless. It's just a thought, feel free to say no. ([[User:Levi657|Levi657]] ([[User talk:Levi657|talk]]) 22:13, 13 February 2018 (UTC))
:Okay, wow... That's a lot. ^_^; Levi657, a proposal like that should be broached on the Heartless's discussion page, not a user's talk page. As a community, any decisions are decided by the whole community. Anything regarding the management and information of the articles should be talked about by everyone on a discussion page first and foremost. As one user, I don't get to decide what goes where and et cetera. Whether I say no or yes doesn't automatically decide anything. Therefore, you should inquire about this on the Heartless's discussion page so everyone in the community can see it. :)--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:46, 14 February 2018 (UTC)