User talk:KrytenKoro/Archive 1

Clarification

You wrote: Completely wrong; it's spelled onii, and it means ogre, not demon. Don't you guys have forums for this kind of thing? in your edit summary for Xion. Just to clarify, it is actually spelled "oni", not "onii", and it can mean both "demon" and "ogre". So for future reference; before accusing anyone of being "completely wrong", please make sure that they actually are wrong ^^ --Hecko X 21:16, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, it is Oni.

However, it means "demon" in a very specialized context - a horned, hideous ogre-like creature with a loincloth, huge teeth, etc. It could possibly be extended to mean the "aggrieved dead" who become Oni's. But it definitely doesn't mean anything like the section was advocating. In English, it would be the medieval, absolutely hideous version of demon. It could not be stretched to mean the attractive demons in modern fiction. And since Xion doesn't have huge tusks and bushy eyebrows, it's very unlikely her name was Oni.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 03:32, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

I have moved your comment here for the simple reason of keeping the discussion in the place it originated, as having a conversation over multiple talk-pages is counter-productive to the discussion as a whole, as it makes it hard for other people to follow.

And while I agree that it is unlikely, though not impossible, that her name is Oni (simply on the fact that it seems way too silly to be true), I find your reasoning to be faulty. While it is completely true that the "stereotype" oni, the ones of ancient lore, are the big, horny ogres with tiger loin cloths, giant clubs, and bad hair styles, this has changed to include attractive female versions usually portrayed in manga/anime (I mean, just read the article you linked to yourself). But you are correct in the sense that in ancient folklore, attractive female demons were usually other types of youkai, like yuki-onna, the human forms of kitsune, etc. --Hecko X 07:26, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

The first anime there has Lum, who still has horns and behaves viciously. The second anime is talking about human reincarnations, and even has a human "tiger". The third is, again, a possession, not an actual Oni.

Lum remains the only pop-culture material that has stretched the depiction of Oni's so far, and that's only for one Oni in the entire species (her family are the traditional type), and she still has the horns. There are countless pop-culture depictions of Oni in the traditional type - Ogremon, for example. At best, someone like Saix could be considered similar to an Oni, but that's still really stretching it.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 14:55, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank You very much.

gohanRULEZ 17:30, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Hey there ^_^

I see you're doing great work on the wiki, thanks very much :) Meanwhile, think you can lend me a little help ? I'm thinking of restructuring the article on Reaction Commands and a long list like that won't do. Any ideas ? Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne

There's something we forgot to add....

I've noticed that in KHIIFM+, there are those puzzles which need to be completed in order to receive items, and the puzzle pieces are scattered throughout the worlds. Think we should start an article on this ? (Or, is there already an article on this ?) This idea came to my mind, albeit a bit too late (because my PS2 is currently locked and I collected all the puzzle pieces). But I know Highest Ribbon is one of the rewards. EDIT : Never mind. I just found the article. ^_^ Today you will be examined for the Mark of Mastery. • TroisNyxÉtienne

Kanji dadadadada

Okay, that's fine. (Sorry, I totally forgot to return your last message. :|)—Urutapu 18:41, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Help:User page

We have a guide for beginners to work on their userpages - right here. Ultima says that he'll help work on it and revamp it. The question is, should it be moved to Help:User page or should it stay where it is ? Please give your two cents at KHWiki talk:User page. I'm waiting to hear from you ! Today you will be examined for the Mark of Mastery. • TroisNyxÉtienne

Sorry for my bad behavior

Azul81677 - "Ebil minds think ebily alike." - A collaboration between 2 very ebil minds TALK - {{{time}}} Why are you putting your userpage and usertalk page up for deletion?

I'm taking a break for about a month, because I don't feel like working here if I'm going to be attacked for it.Golf lima oscar romeo india oscar uniform sierra Charlie Hotel Alpha Oscar Sierra! 02:55, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Azul81677 - "Ebil minds think ebily alike." - A collaboration between 2 very ebil minds TALK - {{{time}}} When were you attacked?

BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...{{{time}}} Yes, please elaborate. This is the first I've heard of anything...

Here. I'm not sure if it was the intent, but it felt very insulting to me to be accused of being lazy and stealing, when what I had done was to use code that I had written myself, and had been asking for others to help me find the information I needed to finish. I just want to focus on other projects for a while.Golf lima oscar romeo india oscar uniform sierra Charlie Hotel Alpha Oscar Sierra! 13:10, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Ultima - Cake and grief counseling will be available at the conclusion of the test. I was not meaning to be mean in any way. And why is your sig glorious Chaos? -

Azul81677 - "Ebil minds think ebily alike." - A collaboration between 2 very ebil minds TALK - {{{time}}} Yes, what I said was not meant to be hurtful or malicious in anyway and if you felt that way I am truly sorry. You are a great editor and you leaving is a great loss to the wiki. Come back soon.

Please, I'm not asking you guys to apologize. I just want to take a break for a while so I can cool off from this.Golf lima oscar romeo india oscar uniform sierra Charlie Hotel Alpha Oscar Sierra! 20:57, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...{{{time}}} We understand. Please come back when you feel ready; we enjoy having you around and you've helped us out so much.

I'll miss you. Hope you have a great life. Amy Cotton 09:05, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Welcome Back

Yer mom - SOMOS HOMBRES O PAYASOS!!!! TALK - {{{time}}} Good to have you back! <3

Ultima - Cake and grief counseling will be available at the conclusion of the test. Ha, lolz . Welcome back anyways -

Andrewrox - "The name's Andrewrox. Got-It-Memorized?" TALK - "He's their leader!" Sorry about the wrong weapon, I was not thinking. I'm Andrew by the way :)

Heartless Template

Guardian Soul Talk. — Don't I even warrant a hello? It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - {{{time}}} Just wondering if you've been working on that new Heartless template with the tabs. We could really use it soon.

Speaking of which, DoorToNothing was talking about it. Please meet me at the Mensa. Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne

Guardian Soul Talk. — Don't I even warrant a hello? It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - {{{time}}} I think DoorToNothing is actually talking about a box which displays the attacks that enemies use, which isn't the same thing, but yeah, I'm sure you'd be interested in this Koro.

Problems with the attacks template

DoorToNothing — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven! And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! Hey, Koro, I'm DoorToNothing. Guardian Soul just tested out that template for the enemy attacks from Kingdom Hearts II, but there were some errors that he hoped that you could fix. Here's what he directly said: "I tried using it but the template is set up so that the box is all the way on the right and the attacks don't really look good how they're written. You might want to get Koro to rework it. Hit him up on his talk page." - Guardian Soul Hope you can help; please and thank you!

Air Pirate

DoorToNothing — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven! And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! So you're fixing the attack template? What was wrong with it, the lack of seperation between the rows? Because if so, I agree.

KrytenKoro - "That's when we bumped into Hannity. Sean Hannity. See the thing about this dude is, at first he's fair, right? And you're like "Wow!" But then BOOM. The dude's balanced, too. And you're like, HOLY SHIT." TALK - I was going to add a template for the deflection symbols, but really I was going to work on the Heartless template.

DoorToNothing — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven! And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! Oh. Well, if you go to Xiggie's talk page, you'll notice that we've actually already solved the problem with the deflection symbols. By Heartless template, do you mean, like, the order the sections go in on the Heartless pages?

And now what?

DoorToNothing — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven! And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! So, do you want me to stop adding those attack templates to the enemy pages, or can I continue, and leave Air Pirate alone? I had already added the table to a few more enemies than just the Air Pirate, so I'm hoping you say the latter. :)

Guardian Soul Talk. — Don't I even warrant a hello? It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - {{{time}}} Shouldn't you wait until we make the attack template look better? The information still hasn't been separated with bars, so it all looks pretty messy.

DoorToNothing — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven! And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! I was going to, but I thought that we never got anyone to do that to do the template. I'll remove the table from the pages until the bars have been added. Sorry, Guardian Soul. I've been messing up all over the place the last week or so.

Guardian Soul Talk. — Don't I even warrant a hello? It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - {{{time}}} Actually... Removing them wasn't necessary, once the template changes, it also changes on the enemy page. Haha. Just leave it now though, it's fine.

DoorToNothing — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven! And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! Oh, that's what I was thinking when I first put them up, and that if we got somebody to add bars, it would just automatically change. But, they're off now, so it'll be fine. So, what's up in your life, Guardian Soul?

ん

Yes, it's pronounced "m" before Bs, Ps, and Ms, but in revised Hepburn (which seems to be the golden standard on more professional sites, which is why I assume we're going with that), ん is always romanized "n" even in that case.—Urutapu 23:04, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

I think, if anything, we should make some sort of MOS-ish page (and perhaps have the nihongo question mark link go to there?) to show our Japanese conventions. We can't go around making special pronunciation notes on every page.—Urutapu 23:25, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Heartless

Guardian Soul Talk. — Don't I even warrant a hello? It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - {{{time}}} The tabs work, so shouldn't we start working on getting the Heartless done?

Xemnas

Holy shit, that's awesome.—Urutapu 23:35, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Birthday

Amy Cotton - Trust in yourself and you can archive anything. TALK - You are better off talking to me here. (You are invited to Amy Cotton's 15th birthday on June 1st. Please wish a happy birthday on this user's talk page.)

New Infobox

Guardian Soul Talk. — Don't I even warrant a hello? It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - {{{time}}} So I went ahead and applied the info box to all of the Heartless pages, but I've noticed that every time you try to load a page with a tabbed info box, all of the boxes are briefly separated before coming together, which is pretty annoying. When you load a page with a tabbed info box on Wikimon, it works perfectly. Do you know why this would be?

KrytenKoro - "Space Corp Directive 195—In an emergency power situation, a hologrammatic crew member must lay down his life in order that the living crew members might survive."  "Yes, but Rimmer Directive 271 states just as clearly: 'No chance, you metal bastard.'" TALK - Wikimon does it too, it just depends on how busy the server is.

Guardian Soul Talk. — Don't I even warrant a hello? It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - {{{time}}} Never seems to do it when I check, but I guess Wikimon wouldn't be as busy.

Sincerely Sorry

Andrewrox - "The name's Andrewrox. Got-It-Memorized?" TALK - "He's their leader!" Kryten, I am sorry for my recent actions, I promise it won't happen again. If yo forgive me I will promise to make some really decent edits, and I know for a fact that you do so. Just to let you know though, I was in a bad mood because of it, but I am not rude. But the comment made to kairi was extremely rude. I do hope you understand, and that we can be friends. Once again; I am sorry

Andrewrox - "The name's Andrewrox. Got-It-Memorized?" TALK - "He's their leader!" Thankyou for forgiving me. Much appreciated. Wont happen again sir! (*SALUTE*)

Shadow Tabs?

DoorToNothing — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven! And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! Ummm, excuse me, Kryten, but what happened to the KH:CoM and KH2 tabs on the Shadow page?

thanks ( again )

PrincessAndie8thprincessofheart - I'm the only one! TALK - Woo hoo hoo hoo! thanks for clearing up my confusion on Yen Sid! I should come to you when I get confused again. I mean, if thats OK with you. while I'm here I'm holding a talk on my page. It's in the what if section. come share your creativity.! :)

Staff/Staves

I looked it up-a staff and stave are pretty much the same thing. The only difference is that a stave is a stick or border and a staff is used for assisting in multiple manners, like fighting, walking and extending reach. So on the staff page stave is used to clarify magic specific staffs and melee specific staffs are classified as hammers. Question me on my talk page if you want to discuss it more. Caydeb 13:29, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

stave  [steyv] Show IPA ,noun, verb, staved or stove, stav⋅ing. –noun

1. one of the thin, narrow, shaped pieces of wood that form the sides of a cask, tub, or similar vessel.
2. a stick, rod, pole, or the like.
3. a rung of a ladder, chair, etc.
4. Prosody.
5. a verse or stanza of a poem or song.
6. the alliterating sound in a line of verse, as the w-sound in wind in the willows.

From Dictionary.com

Can we agree to disagree and just call it Donald's weapons, as he uses other items as well like the axe. unless you have another suggestion. I'm not gonna change it back till we can agree.

Enemy Templates

Guardian Soul Talk. — Don't I even warrant a hello? It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - {{{time}}} If nothing can be done about how long it takes for the tabs to come together, we're going to have to come up with a different idea. On internet explorer it can take up to thirty seconds just for a template to work properly, so I suggest we get this figured out before you continue converting templates.

Yuan Salve! — 04:10, 14 June 2009 (UTC) "Days that I have held, days that I have lost / days that outgrow, like daughters, my harbouring arms" My main issue with the template is that it forces all of the text down in the browser for me. I think time is an issue only with slow computers, as it takes less than 5 seconds for it to show up on my computer.

KrytenKoro - Click TALK - My computer is almost constantly running up to sixty tabs at a time, and freezes up every other day, but it still never takes more than three seconds for the tabs to coalesce. Hell, even when my computer is actively freezing up, and youtube flash is sputtering, it still only takes a few seconds for the tabs to work. For an IE example, I opened up the wiki on IE - the first time I've used IE since I last restarted my PC about a week ago, and the first time I've opened the wiki on IE period, and went to the Air Pirate page - the one which uses tabs the most heavily. It still only took 9 seconds, and most of that was loading the wiki itself. I was also not logged in, so the wikia adds were slowing me down too. Once I logged in, it only took 2 seconds. This isn't a "fast/slow PC" problem, and isn't a "Firefox/IE" problem. I don't know what to say, GS, but from my testing it appears to be all on your end. Yuanchosaan, could you explain what you mean?

DoorToNothing — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven! And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! Well, assuming that KrytenKoro is correct, than it needs to be decided if the tabs are more useful than the are a pain for those with slow browsers and PCs.

Yuan Salve! — 04:28, 14 June 2009 (UTC) "Days that I have held, days that I have lost / days that outgrow, like daughters, my harbouring arms" I mean that all the text appears under the template. Normally with an infobox, the text appears next to it; but with this one there's a huge blank space. It seems to be only an IE problem though, as the text shows up fine on Firefox. Experiencing more lag on Firefox though: could it be an individual computer thing?

KrytenKoro - "Because I knew something he didn't. I knew that I was lying. Seriously, sir. 'No silicon heaven'? Where would all of the calculators go?" TALK - Well, Yuan's problem seems to be that for some reason, on IE the div box the tab's are contained within covers the entire page - the text shows up immediately below it. I'm going to ask a janitor for help getting the div's to work, as there's really no reason they should be doing this.

KrytenKoro - "Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day. But set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life." TALK - Yuan, both the Heartless and InfoBoss templates are now working on IE for me. Can you check them on your end?

Guardian Soul Talk. — Don't I even warrant a hello? It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - {{{time}}} Much better now. The tabs still take a few seconds to load but the boxes don't spread on the page. Good.

Yuan Salve! — 07:26, 14 June 2009 (UTC) "Days that I have held, days that I have lost / days that outgrow, like daughters, my harbouring arms" It works fine now. Great job. By the way, I fixed all of the incorrect PD transclusions. Edit: It messes up a little if a line is left between the template and the text. Removing spaces where I can find them.

Guardian Soul Talk. — Don't I even warrant a hello? It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - {{{time}}} Koro, I think it would be nice to have a separate version of each template without tabs, for enemies that only appear in one game. When the enemy only appears in one game, I just find the tab annoying. Agree?

InfoBoss Template Disapearance

DoorToNothing — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven! And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! So, I went over to the Guardian page today, to find that the InfoBoss template was missing! I went to the template's page, and it was gone. I noticed that you removed it in the template's history. I'm not objecting that, but could you please tell me as to why you removed the template?

DoorToNothing — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven! And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! Oh, ok! So, you're basically just adding tabs for when it appears in multiple games, similar to the Heartless templates?

DoorToNothing — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven! And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! I've been uploading stats from the guide, as well. While on that subject, you know how most enemies that appear before and after the rescue change their Gravity and Stop multipliers? I've been putting it in the tables as |khstop=1.0 (x0.6 after rescue). Do you think that will work? By the way, since you're changing the boss template, remember that some bosses are fought multiple times, such as Cerberus, Cloud, and Sabor!

DoorToNothing — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven! And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! So, I should put it in like this?: x1.0 (x0.8 after)

DoorToNothing — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven! And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! So, like this: x1.0 (0.8 after)?

DoorToNothing — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven! And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! OH! YOu mean to only use the multiplier for after the rescue, right? Should this also apply for bosses' stats, i.e. Lock, Shock, & Barrel's before and after rescue HP, ATK, DEF, MP Recov., and EXP?

DoorToNothing — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven! And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! Well, when the player receives Gravity, the pretty much will usually get hooked on it, because of its strength agains Fat Bandits and Large Bodies. As the game progresses, it usually fades out of their arsenal. Stop is in direct contrast to that. Players probably find it near useless when first learned, but, like you said, battling the Phantom and playing in the Coliseum can make it a regular spell. How did these two spells go in your gameplay? I personally never used magic, other than Thunder and Cure, and sometimes randomly spamming Firaga.

DoorToNothing — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven! And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! I agree, there's no point in magic that requires you to be close to the enemy. You may as well just use an element-enhanced Keyblade. Anyway, another way to look at the before/after rescue stats is that you spend much more of the game before the rescue. However, all of that time players use after defeating the final boss would use the after stats....

More on templates

Guardian Soul Talk. — Don't I even warrant a hello? It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - {{{time}}} First I wanted to ask what happened to the CoM templates. The title for each enemy has been moved to the left for some reason. And second, I think you should take away the x's from each elemental stat and just let us write it in ourselves. Some enemies just have "Null" written in and "Absorb".

Citation

Guardian Soul Talk. — Don't I even warrant a hello? It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - {{{time}}} I've opened a discussion about the use of citations. I think it's something important that we need to look into, considering all of the work that we do for this wiki. We don't want all of our work to go to waste just because we don't have any proof to back up our claims. Please take a look when you can.

Oblivion(Riku).jpg

Excuse me, but, why are you moving this image all the time? It depicts how it is in KH:358/2 Days. Is something wrong with that?

Meddelder

Dude stop bugging me on the Sky Ruler article. Nobody was even talking to you, so stop being a "troll" (wtf is that anyway??), and leave me alone. I'm already talking to Guardian Soul about this.--Norgizfox 14:36, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

AntiSora Replicas

DoorToNothing — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven! And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! Do you think a seperate tab should be made for AntiSora replicas, because the [1] references might be confusing to some?

Guardian Soul Talk. — Don't I even warrant a hello? It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - {{{time}}} I personally don't think that's necessary.

KrytenKoro - This is the song that runs under the credits; these are the credits, so this is where it goes. 'has nothing to do with the movie so we'll say, "Hey! Hey! Hey hey hey hey hey hey!" TALK - I agree with GS. They are functionally the same as the AntiSora, with only one(?) stat change. I've been reserving the tabs for when there are distinct "parts", such as with the Battleship. I would say that they if it has changes in the ATK, DEF, or rewards as well, then it can be considered separate. What do you guys think?

Infoboxes

Guardian Soul Talk. — Don't I even warrant a hello? It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - {{{time}}} Winxfan1 is the person who keeps messing with the templates. I did them correctly.

Re:358/2 images

Please check my talkpage. Thanks in advance.

Time Parameter

Azul81677 - "Ebil minds think ebily alike." - A collaboration between 2 very ebil minds TALK - 21:28, 21 June 2009 (UTC) Click

Your input is needed

Azul81677 - "Ebil minds think ebily alike." - A collaboration between 2 very ebil minds TALK - 21:18, 24 June 2009 (UTC) At the InfoCharacter template talk pages

thanks

Cayde B page See or Talk to me Lock the keyholes... Your the only one who can. hey thanks for helping me out on the wiki. i know im pretty new and you guys don't really respect my opinion yet so ill tone down the editing till you all let me into your clique. thanks again hit my talk!

Number XXI - Prepare to scream! TALK - Best holiday wishes from Jack Skellington, the Pumpkin King! Sorry about what happened at PrincessAndie8princessofthehearts' talk page. I'm brand new, and its been hard for me to find a way to contribute, seeing as every article has beenn written by people who know more than me. I thought what i did would be a way of helping out, because thats seriously all i want to do.

Number XXI - Prepare to scream! TALK - Best holiday wishes from Jack Skellington, the Pumpkin King! What pictures? I did it because i heard she was vandilizing this wiki and had banned me from here site for no reason.....

Number XXI - Prepare to scream! TALK - Best holiday wishes from Jack Skellington, the Pumpkin King! It wont happen again. Btw, could you, in the future, tell me if there are any articles that need editting? my sI know alot about heartless. P.S. What was wrong with my edit of Blizzard Lord? I saw that you editted it after i did.

Number XXI - Prepare to scream! TALK - Best holiday wishes from Jack Skellington, the Pumpkin King! Thanks> I have the guide for KH2 btw

Andrewrox - "The name's Andrewrox. Got-It-Memorized?" TALK - "He's their leader!" hey Kyrten, Andrew Here. I read the message on the LVD wiki. I have a few bits of info you need to know. She is blocked infinitely on this wiki and Azul said he will never unblock her, ever. You know about the IP sockpuppetting. Secondly, there is already a KH fanon wiki. You should never have 2 fanon wikis, it is pointless. Plus, TNE is an admin of the Fanon wiki; she wont want to edit another one. And knowing Amy she will not change. She wants to steal our images and block people, we cannot stop that. That is too bad. And I am sorry that Amy cannot come back, that is the way of the world. Do you have anything to say? EDIT: I don't think you knew the severity of the problem unfortunately. It is too late for her to return. You are wrong: the admins want nothing to do with her. Seeya!

KrytenKoro - Pinocchio with his nose attached to the trigger of a rifle, which points at his face as he says, "I want to live!" TALK - She didn't use the second account to vandalize, and as far as I know, never actually vandalized herself. Her only actual problem was exploding at everyone, and if she can deal with that, there's no reason we shouldn't encourage her to come back. Aggravating the problem by driving her away is only going to prolong this mess. There is plenty of reason to have multiple fanon wiki's, if they focus on different, full-bodied fan-fictions.

Andrewrox - "The name's Andrewrox. Got-It-Memorized?" TALK - "He's their leader!" You have an amazing page. Very sad and very amazing. I don't want this to turn into an argument, but we need to clear some things up. Now I know you are forgiving, and I can be too. But this needs to be explained. A couple of months ago, Amy left the wiki after me and Guardian Soul found out that she was lying about what she did at the Animal Crossing and Pokemon wikis. She swore at people. People started a petition, and she did a massive sob story. Gs found it funny and so did I. A week after she came back and said that she was only going to greet users (that was the only thing she really did before she left). She also had new news: Pregnancy. But me and Azul found out that the evidence did not mesh. When she failed to answer questions, she left. She said something along the lines of: "I'm to Autistic for this wiki, just block me off forever". So Azul did. Reason: Rudeness and Sockpuppetting. We know that Emilyc and Kaylee Anne are sockpuppets. look at this. This is where we found her out. AGAIN! Here is some of the stuff she did at the other wikis. THE AMY COTTON CONTROVERSY PAGE. Here is the stuff she did to Azul: V AMALIA Note on the Controversy page Larxene is actually Kaylee Anne which is Amy Cotton. Just listen to me please: We all have to stop talking to Amy. She wants attention. Don't encourage her to come back, 80 percent of her edits are talkpage edits, 15 percent is greetings and 5 percent are main-space edits. I know you are a good forgiver, but we do not need her. If you have a problem then maybe you should talk to an admin.

KrytenKoro - Ṱ͐͒H̫̾̃E͈͔͍͔̾̋ͦ̕ ͇̜͖͉̘̬͙̃̇̊͜N͙͉̑̓̌ͤĬ̸͇̖͈͒̃Gͧ͊̈́­̮̠̟͖̝̩H̽͌̀T͚̹̝̐ͬ̂̔̄ ̿̈́̊̃ͦ͆͑A̘̝̖ͪͯ́̀ͣ̿̃͝I̟͑ͬR̡͎̩̚ ̠̪̈́̑̏̏̋C̯̲ͩ́͐͒͂ͪ͜Ä͍̜̣̼̹́͌̋̀͒͂ͅ­N̅͐̆ͪ̓̋ͩ ̣ͮͧͧ͌Ả̼̤̜̫̩̜̾̕L͓͓̺̤̘̠̀W̷͗͂ͦ̾͒­̭̯̼A̘͓̰̠͉͇̬Y̵̒ͧͩ̇ͅS ̦̻̯̟̮̭̟̓̒͑͋C̮̱͔͔̖̯ͦͧͨ͋̑A̤ͩ̉̅ͪR­̞͉̣̦̪̜̮͛̉̎̀ͩ̍̇R̢̥̳̝̟̺̣̈Y͗͋̅͏͇̳­̪͎̺ ̭͈͍̝̣͍̒̎̑͘O̖̗͇̲̲̖͊̈́̿ͨ͑ͅN̩̰͉͍͍͖­͙E̩̹̣̰̣͓̖̽̊͡ ̲̮͔̯̦̋̿ͧͫ̓ͅM͇̌͌̔́O̱̫̯̬̤̗̲͛R̙̽E­̥̦̫̺͙̩̏̒ͯͭ́ ̖̫̯͉̱ͣͯͩ͊͐͆ͫS̰̿̊̑̋ͩ̇ͅC̘̣̜͍̆̆ͧ͜­R̞̾͐̋̆̚Ë̡͇̓A̙͈M̡̤̙̈ TALK - Yes, she's a liar, and no, no one should believe her sob stories, though making up personal stories is not a blockable offense. If there's actual proof of her vandalizing this wiki, that's something too. However, the policy of wikia is to allow repentant users to come back, and while she absolutely must apologize for her actions, she should be encouraged to come back and contribute. She was somewhat helpful once (greetings are nothing to sneeze at, we need someone doing it), and she can be so again if we encourage her to.

Andrewrox - "The name's Andrewrox. Got-It-Memorized?" TALK - "He's their leader!" Proof? Oh we all have proof. She admitted it on her Sims wiki page. Plus, we had IP checkers. You havent been here to see all of this. As for greetings; I can do that. But then some people may think that that is the only thing I do here. I have gotten rid of hundreds of images.

KrytenKoro - "Hey, I want to settle down. And as soon as I find the right small group of girls, the seven or eight women who are right for me, my wandering days are over, buddy." TALK - If you're not willing to do greeting, why even bring it up? If we have proof that she vandalized this wiki, yes, she needs to apologize for it, but again, she should be encouraged to come back. She obviously wants to contribute (she's making real edits on her wiki), so she's not a true vandal. We should encourage anyone who shows interest in contributing to join our wiki.

Andrewrox - "The name's Andrewrox. Got-It-Memorized?" TALK - "He's their leader!" Okay, but you seem to be avoiding the edidence. Everyone on the Sims wiki does the same. You need to listen to me. I will do the Greetings. Starting now. Please, go and talk to an admin about this. I would like to see what they'd say. Try it. Thanks mate.

KrytenKoro - "An education was a bit like a communicable sexual disease. It made you unsuitable for a lot of jobs and then you had the urge to pass it on." TALK - Gah...YES, I read the links you provided. Yes, it's obvious that she was sockpuppeting, but from appearances she was doing it to make herself look popular (and crazy), not in order to actually vandalize. Hell, she was probably lying about the autism and pregnancy as well. However, that isn't what's important. Yes, she needs to apologize for the tantrums, for the blocks, and for the lying. Then and only then should she be un-banned. She needs to stop using her sockpuppet accounts, and if she uses them again, she should get reasonable-length blocks. But if she's willing to do so, we should encourage her. Honestly? From what I can see across the various wiki's, the situation got so bad because of editors acting unprofessionally and exacerbating the situation, and the only way to fix it is for someone to extend an olive branch. Please, either try to fix the situation, or stay out of it.

Andrewrox - "The name's Andrewrox. Got-It-Memorized?" TALK - "He's their leader!" To me, she does not want to come back. She has people that she hates here. Are you gonna talk to admins? EDIT: On ur page you said that she had stopped. Unfortunately that is false. She has been doing bad things at the Sims wiki also. Have you talked to the admins to get her unblocked?

KrytenKoro - Pinocchio with his nose attached to the trigger of a rifle, which points at his face as he says, "I want to live!" TALK - I'm not trying to get her unblocked - I'm trying to encourage her to do the work to get unblocked. It appears to be a moot point anyway, as I've talked to her, and she refuses to try, so oh well.

Andrewrox - "The name's Andrewrox. Got-It-Memorized?" TALK - "He's their leader!" Yeah, I saw that. Hilarious. I actually have never bullied her in my life. I just ask her questions that she can't answer. Then she cries to the admins and they say "I don't care who's fault it is, just apologize". Therefore Amy gets away with it. Again. Azul even went there to warn the admins and they just ignored them. I would love to see her bring the wiki down becuase she has played them all like cards. Funny isn't it? That was a good thing encouraging her, but you can only do SO much. In the most optimistic way possible: GIVE UP.

Azul81677 - "Ebil minds think ebily alike." - A collaboration between 2 very ebil minds TALK - 01:59, 6 July 2009 (UTC) Okay Andrew. Seriously, stop already. You could have left it alone when Kryten replied. You need to stop trying to convince everyone to hate her. You say we don't need her because of her edit %, but you hardly edit and only have 90 mainspace edits, less than her, and 5 file edits, and your Talk page edits continue to climb. Maybe you can tell me where exactly it was that I said I wouldn't unblock her. People change, they mature, they learn from their experiences. I told her not to come back if she was just going to vandalize, I chose my words very carefully. You still continue to argue with her after we already told you to stop. If she apologized and agreed to come back and edit positively, of course we would let her. It's what we need right now. One of the FFWiki's most notorious vandals came back and edited after she vandalized and "sockpuppeted". No one banned her after she came back and she even developed a sort of a cult following. Not once did she vandalize after her return. So see, through this example, there is hope.

Andrewrox - "The name's Andrewrox. Got-It-Memorized?" TALK - "He's their leader!" Ok then. I don't mind if she returns then if it is ok with the administrators. As for the edits, I spent hours finding duplicate (and bad) images. But I will find better edits. Alrighty then. I'll get some bad images now.

Kudos, sincerely

DoorToNothing — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven! And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! Hey Kryten, I just wanted to complement you on your User page. I tihnk that is very mature, and amazing for someone who has been attacked so. I don't know how old you are, but you seem like you are very mature for your age. Hopefully your dad will realize what he's been wrong about one day. Maybe that isn't the best thing to say, since it isn't my business, but I saying something hopeful is better than saying something negative in almost any case. Sincerely, DTN

Nobody Template?

DoorToNothing — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven! And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! Hey Kryten! My Internet messed up, so this is the second time that I'm having to type this. Anyway, I went over to the Dusk page, and I noticed something general about the Nobody pages: they all are horribly lacking in the stat department. All that we provide is HP and EXP, which is little compared to what is provided in the Heartless' infoboxes. Therefore, I propose the idea of creating a Nobody template, similar to the KH2 data from the Heartless template. All that it might need is a palette swap to gray, and take out any unnecessary lines. What do you think?

howdy

Orpheus of the Lyre Let's Talk ! — Prepare to scream ! Sally, why didn't I listen to you? I've never talked to you before so I thought i'd say hi ^^

you broke andie

Joe Keyblade Aura Come chat! — They'll pay for this. Come on! thanks to you andie is goin' into what i call xion mode she is depressed you better fix her

Question

Yeah well I usually go to GS for this kind of questions but he's not here, so you're the only one I can think of XD. Question: Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix+ is the combination of KHIIFM AND Re:Chain of Memories right? So all the pages that say stuff like "This enemy/item/whatever is exclusive to Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix+" should be changed to supress the + symbol or should they be left like they are? --Yer mom 23:32, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank choo <3 --Yer mom 23:37, 6 July 2009 (UTC)