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Chitalian8 Say... — Only by allowing strangers in can we find new ways to be ourselves. Life's little crossroads are often as simple as the pull of a trigger. — 11:55, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
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We have quite a few userbox images that are fanart, for example: this one and this one. Shouldn't these be hosted externally?
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Erry - Deep Drive TALK - Moon shine down. ~ 11:58, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
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The Inexistent - All the world's a puzzle, and I the one who made it so... TALK - EVIL has come... at last...
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But, in all techincallity, those could be considered site images. Plus, there are hundreds of them that would have to be exactly resized before they could be uploaded through Photobucket.
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The Inexistent - Pitiful users, mindlessly collecting information. The rage of an edit releases this knowledge, and they all come together, to form: The Wiki!!! TALK - And on the Wiki these words appear: "My name is The_Inexistent, user of users: Look upon my edits, ye Mighty, and despair!"
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Well, resizing in Paint makes images extremely pixalated, but any windows user can easily take a printscreen of the existing size and crop it, or paste it into word and resize it. I just thought that it would be a lot of work for images that, if you ask me, are site images.
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DoorToNothing — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven! And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 18:57, 14 March 2011 (EDT)
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Here's the way I see it: site images are related to the site, and therefore its main features such as its goal and desired content to be featured and expanded upon. Userboxes, therefore, cannot be deemed site images, since they belong to a part of the wiki we do not flaunt nor do we advertise, as pretty userboxes do not further our goal of creating the most in-depth, all-covering encyclopedia on the Kingdom Hearts series. We treat talk template images the same way for the same reason, I do not see any reason why userboxes should get any other kind of treatment for a situation that is, essentially, the same.
Also, if users are uploading mid-small images to use for their "friend" userboxes... yeah, those probably need to go the most, since most of those aren't even slightly official content.
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maggosh The steel is forged... — "Souls as far as the eye can see..." "If you want light to rule over all, then you must rid the world of everything else."
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I think we should just get rid of userboxes period here.
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DoorToNothing — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven! And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 19:13, 14 March 2011 (EDT)
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That's taking matters a bit far, don't you think? While userboxes aren't necessary to any wiki, including this one, we have a use for them here. All that's being suggested is that we move some unofficial user images off-wiki for better presentation and to respect our policy. Neither party will be pleased if we simply get rid of userboxes altogether.
Plus, do you really think you can just get rid of userboxes with a policy? The creativity on this wiki is so vast, there's no way it won't find some form of expression, either as userboxes or in some other similar form.
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SilverCrono *trollface* — Problem? FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-— 19:32, 14 March 2011 (EDT)
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Honestly, it seems like the general consensus is that we move images off-wiki for a lot of things, but it isn't getting done. I think somebody responsible and frequently available should take charge of that. I would, but I have no idea whether we want a new Photobucket account or the current ones password, etc, etc.
But yeah, these need to be moved, too.
Also, my friend userbox has an image relevant to the wiki. U jelly? *trollface*
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LegoAlchemist - They changed "Snipe Magnet" to "Magnet Grab"? Who's translating this game, 4kids? TALK - Friendships are in direct contravention of mercenary conduct as delineated in your contracts, and on a personal note: I am very, very, disappointed with you.
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I'll do it. I'll make a Photobucket account. I'll share the password with the admins, and keep it within a trustworthy circle. I'll start importing images and converting images to their Photobucket counterpart now.
EDIT: http://s1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb367/khwiki-official/
I realized last minute that "khwiki-user" would've been a better username. My bad. PM me on the IRC for the password.
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@Lego - Most of the images on the Photobucket aren't resized. I would fully support all of this off wiki hosting if we could find a decent off-site image host. KRCCFNF is tired of being STEPPED ON. 17:24, 15 March 2011 (EDT)
- Yeah, I completely forgot about the resizing.
- EDIT: A thought: why don't we use the wikia-wiki for offsite hosting? Didn't Kryten demonstrate a way to host and resize other wiki images? This way, we won't have to reupload everything. The only problem I see is getting permission. And the morality behind it. --LegoAlchemist 20:16, 15 March 2011 (EDT)
BRILLIANT IDEA. Although it might be a little immoral, we could do something similar. Someday, when we actually start SEIWA, we could have an image wiki, similarly to how Wikimedia Commons was basically created to be an image hosting site for Wikipedia and other Wikimedia sites. KRCCFNF is tired of being STEPPED ON. 22:21, 15 March 2011 (EDT)
- Bulbapedia has one of those, I believe. --Ag (Silver) - 47 107.8682 amu ~Crono 22:28, 15 March 2011 (EDT)
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Neumannz — Looks like I'm gonna have to jump...! TALK — I work alone! Except when I work with Xion...which is all the time.— 22:36, 15 March 2011 (EDT)
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Is it really possible to resize images hosted on the wikia? I know it's possible to use those images, like this:
But resizing? How?
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LegoAlchemist - They changed "Snipe Magnet" to "Magnet Grab"? Who's translating this game, 4kids? TALK - Friendships are in direct contravention of mercenary conduct as delineated in your contracts, and on a personal note: I am very, very, disappointed with you.
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Look at the coding for the kitty pictures on Kryten's userpage. It's got like the sizing after a forewardslash or summat. I've used it before - it works.
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Neumannz — Looks like I'm gonna have to jump...! TALK — I work alone! Except when I work with Xion...which is all the time.— 01:41, 16 March 2011 (EDT)
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Doesn't seem to be working for me. Could you give an example? Like with this one?
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BUT we still would not be able to link= or put captions on them.
Also, @DTN, this gets us closer to being done? KRCCFNF is tired of being STEPPED ON. 16:26, 20 March 2011 (EDT)
- We don't need links or captions in Userboxes. --LegoAlchemist 18:03, 20 March 2011 (EDT)
We can't let this die out--it's becoming a problem in auditing. For example, while I was auditing images, I had to leave a ton of images unchecked because we hadn't decided on this. While there is certainly more effort required in resizing the images off-wiki, there is also the risk of exceeding Photobucket's bandwidth limit. We could try Lego/Kryten's idea of using the KHWikia URL's, though if they ever change their image names, we have to as well. Additionally, we could make this simple as say that if a user wants to use a userbox, it's their own responsibility to fix the image until we complete the syncing.
This is urgent, so I'm willing to just go into a staff election-style voting, with justification and discussion of course, if everyone is ready. --DTN 18:54, 2 April 2011 (EDT)
- I say just get a tinypic account, they don't have a bandwidth limit. Erry 19:05, 2 April 2011 (EDT)
- I second Erry's notion. I'll have some time soon, so I can resize a lot of the userbox images that don't require a white background (as I can't make them transparent). KRCCFNF is tired of being STEPPED ON. 22:12, 3 April 2011 (EDT)