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{{TheFifteenthMember|time={{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 15:18, 25 July 2014 (UTC)|default=The latest project that I'm working on is fixing all the Key Items, one of the issues present in [[KHWiki:Project Items|Project Items]]. What we need to do is create pages for each key item, using the [[Emblem Piece]] article as an example. When appropriate, we should merge multiple key items together into one informative article (see "[[Cinderella's dress]]" for an example). We must also create lists for each game; I'm working on a draft [[User:TheFifteenthMember/List of Key Items Draft|here]]. Look below to find things to do!}}
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{{TheFifteenthMember|time={{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 20:37, 20 September 2014 (UTC)|happy=Here's an overall to do list; feel free to get involved!
*'''Kingdom Hearts'''
**Create a page for [[Navi-Gummi]] and [[Navi-G Piece]].
*'''Kingdom Hearts II'''
**Add Story section to [[Naminé's Sketches]] page.
**Add Story section to [[Picture]] article.
**Create page for [[Present]] and [[Decoy Present]].
**Expand [[Summon Charm]]'s story section.
*'''Kingdom Hearts Re:coded'''
**Create page for [[Mystery Piece]].
*'''Kingdom Hearts 3D'''
**Add all recipes to the [[Recipe]] list.
**Create [[Stage Gadget]] page.
*Figure out how to deal with the list of key item lists.}}
 
 
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{{TheFifteenthMember|time={{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 15:18, 25 July 2014 (UTC)|default=The latest project that I'm working on is fixing all the Key Items, one of the issues present in [[KHWiki:Project Items|Project Items]]. What we need to do is create pages for each key item, using the [[Emblem Piece]] article as an example. When appropriate, we should merge multiple key items together into one informative article (see "[[Cinderella's dress]]" for an example). We must also create lists for each game; I'm working on a draft [[User:TheFifteenthMember/List of Key Items Draft|here]]. Look below to find things to do!}}
{{TheFifteenthMember|time={{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 20:37, 20 September 2014 (UTC)|happy=Here's an overall to do list; feel free to get involved!
*'''Kingdom Hearts'''
**Create a page for [[Navi-Gummi]] and [[Navi-G Piece]].
*'''Kingdom Hearts II'''
**Add Story section to [[Naminé's Sketches]] page.
**Add Story section to [[Picture]] article.
**Create page for [[Present]] and [[Decoy Present]].
**Expand [[Summon Charm]]'s story section.
*'''Kingdom Hearts Re:coded'''
**Create page for [[Mystery Piece]].
*'''Kingdom Hearts 3D'''
**Add all recipes to the [[Recipe]] list.
**Create [[Stage Gadget]] page.
*Figure out how to deal with the list of key item lists.}}
{{TheFifteenthMember|time={{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 19:41, 18 October 2014 (UTC)|persuade=Alright! Here's an updated to do list:
*<s>Create a page for [[Navi-Gummi]] and [[Navi-G Piece]].</s>
*Add all KH3D recipes to the [[Recipe]] page.
*Add story sections for the following articles: [[Naminé's Sketches]], [[Picture]], <s>[[Present]],</s> [[Stage Gadget]].
*<s>Expand [[Summon Charm]]'s story section.</s>
I archived our old discussions since we've already dealt with all the issues that came up there. Now, I want to focus on the few remaining issues. We still need some clarification on what exactly [[Navi-Gummi]] is and what exactly [[Navi-G Piece]] is, so if someone can explain that to me, it'd be great. I can't write the story sections for the KH2 and KH3D items since it's been a while since I've played those games, but 2.5 will refresh my memory so after that, I should be able to write the KH2 sections. Also, the recipes seem like a work in progress. If I remember correctly, ANX was going to start something and I might make my own table soon.
The main thing that we need to discuss now is ''lists''. I made a [[User:TheFifteenthMember/List of Key Items Draft|draft]] ages ago but it needs some revision before it becomes used. Firstly, we need to decide whether a list is even necessary in the first place. Then, we should figure out whether one list is sufficient or if we want to split it by game (similar to ability lists). Feedback?}}
To clarify the Navi-G: The four [[Navi-G Piece]]s appear in different worlds, and collecting them allows you expand the number of accessible worlds after giving them to Cid, in sets of two, I think. The [[Navi-Gummi]] appears during the last visit to Traverse Town (the scene with Kairi in the waterway), and it allows you to return to Hollow Bastion for the second visit.  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 08:26, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
:Okay, thanks. I remember that one Navi-G Piece is obtained in Deep Jungle with Terk. Any ideas about the rest? {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 13:35, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
::Navi-G Pieces are all obtained after sealing Keyholes, actually: In Wonderland, Deep Jungle, Traverse Town and Neverland. The Gummi Block dropped by Terk is actually one of Protect Gummi type (you can see when you reunite with Donald and Goofy in Tent).[[Special:Contributions/109.173.173.78|109.173.173.78]] 13:53, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
:::Thanks for the information. The last clue to solve is when they're installed in the Gummi Ship. Are they installed in twos as NZ said or can you go back to Cid and install a new piece after you get each one? {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 13:58, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
::::In pairs. Pairs are Wonderland-Deep Jungle and Traverse Town-Neverland, of course.--[[Special:Contributions/109.173.173.78|109.173.173.78]] 14:22, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
:::::{{TheSilentHero|time=14:33, 19 October 2014 (UTC)|text=After getting the piece from Traverse Town, Sora shows it to Cid, who tells him they come in sets and he needs to find the other one. Also, I think 2 Navi-G Pieces make one Navi-Gummi, so maybe the pages should be merged.}}
That's clear now. Thanks a lot! The pages should be merged anyway since they are both gummi blocks that unlocks a new route to a world. Since they run on the same principle, it's clear that they are made from the same material. {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 14:46, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
{{TheFifteenthMember|time={{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 19:01, 20 October 2014 (UTC)|happy=Thanks for you input guys! I created the Navi-Gummi page. Now that's sorted, what are your opinions on creating lists?}}
:{{TheSilentHero|time=06:22, 21 October 2014 (UTC)|ike=Personally, I really like lists. I think your draft could use some images, though. And I don't think you should put all the KH3D recipes on the page. I know they are Key Items, but they will be listed on the Recipe page.}}
::{{TheFifteenthMember|time={{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 17:34, 21 October 2014 (UTC)|persuade=Hmm, I don't see how we could work images into a list without it looking sloppy. The only thing that I can think of is adding [[File:Icon Material KH.png]] to the top of the KH section, since that icon represents key items. About including recipes, I guess we could just mention at the top of the game section, "Aside from [[Recipes]]..." or something of the sort. We just need something to acknowledge that recipes are key items. Same goes for synthesis materials (which we haven't included in the table).
Are the columns that I have in place now appropriate? Should I add, remove or change any? Other than that, if I revise the list to fix errors and mistakes, it should be ready quite soon.}}
:{{TheSilentHero|time=18:15, 21 October 2014 (UTC)|ganon=You could add galleries under the tables for the games that have images. I think the columns look good. Also, I noticed a small mistake in your draft. In the Notes column for the items for Alice's Trial, it says that you need three pieces to continue the plot, but you can continue whenever you want.}}
::I don't think the galleries are a good idea; the images will already be on the respective item pages anyway. The galleries might just take up unnecessary space. Thanks for highlighting that error for me. There are a couple of those so I'll be changing them. {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 18:28, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
I corrected the list. The only two issues with it are there are some missing nihongos and the three Proofs in KH2 have no descriptions, but that's because there's not been an English release yet so the descriptions can only be translations. Should we wait for 2.5 to come out and fix that problem or release the list now? {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 21:26, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
:To clarify something I saw in Navi-Gummi article and in the table: Navi-Gummi isn't received from Cid; he tells you to go to the Secret Waterway where he hid it, and you get it from approaching the mural.[[Special:Contributions/109.173.173.78|109.173.173.78]] 21:52, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
::Thanks for the correction. {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 21:54, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

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