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Xemnas uses Keyblade Armor in KH2. Doesn't that confirm that he has the ability to wield a Keyblade? --[[User:Elfdemon|Elfdemon]] ([[User talk:Elfdemon|talk]]) 10:41, 5 February 2016 (UTC) | Xemnas uses Keyblade Armor in KH2. Doesn't that confirm that he has the ability to wield a Keyblade? --[[User:Elfdemon|Elfdemon]] ([[User talk:Elfdemon|talk]]) 10:41, 5 February 2016 (UTC) | ||
:Has it ever been called Keyblade Armor? I think it's just regular armor. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 22:47, 5 February 2016 (UTC) | :Has it ever been called Keyblade Armor? I think it's just regular armor. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 22:47, 5 February 2016 (UTC) | ||
:When was it ever said that you ''need'' a Keyblade to wear Keyblade Armor? Far as I can tell, it just seems like an accessory. [[User:Rex Ronald Rilander|Rex Ronald Rilander]] ([[User talk:Rex Ronald Rilander|talk]]) 04:30, 6 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
Was it not Xemnas' Keyblade Armor? Looks exactly like it, so I always assumed that it was. --[[User:Elfdemon|Elfdemon]] ([[User talk:Elfdemon|talk]]) 23:45, 5 February 2016 (UTC) | Was it not Xemnas' Keyblade Armor? Looks exactly like it, so I always assumed that it was. --[[User:Elfdemon|Elfdemon]] ([[User talk:Elfdemon|talk]]) 23:45, 5 February 2016 (UTC) | ||
:It's not ''explicitly'' called Keyblade Armor, so we can't make that claim. It's pretty clear it is, though.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 01:31, 6 February 2016 (UTC) | :It's not ''explicitly'' called Keyblade Armor, so we can't make that claim. It's pretty clear it is, though.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 01:31, 6 February 2016 (UTC) | ||
==Source?== | |||
What's the source for this information?: <br/> | |||
"and retreats into the broken Kingdom Hearts", <br/> | |||
"Xemnas's "The World of Nothing", a pocket dimension presided over by a massive, weaponized construct which has absorbed the remainder of The World That Never Was." <br/> | |||
--[[User:Elfdemon|Elfdemon]] ([[User talk:Elfdemon|talk]]) 07:43, 6 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
:"The World of Nothing" is the name of the set of rooms in which the final battle with Xemnas takes place. It's in the game-coding, but only visible by using a room-mod code. That the dragon has abosrbed the rest of TWTNW is based on the visuals of the battle, where the dragon and its base are made of Dark City/TCTNW.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 15:00, 6 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
::What's the source for Xemnas retreating into the broken Kingdom Hearts and what's the source for it being a pocket dimension? --[[User:Elfdemon|Elfdemon]] ([[User talk:Elfdemon|talk]]) 22:01, 6 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::"Mickey: Kingdom Hearts... / Riku: Let's go. Xemnas must be inside." Key word being "inside", not "on the other side".{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 00:22, 7 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::I'm pretty sure they were just talking about inside the door, not inside Kingdom Hearts. I've never heard someone say "let's go to the other side of that door", I've only heard people say "let's go inside that door". I guess you can interpret it either way, but I don't quite see how "Let's go. Xemnas must be inside" equals "Xemnas has gone inside his Kingdom Hearts which is inside a pocket dimension." --[[User:Elfdemon|Elfdemon]] ([[User talk:Elfdemon|talk]]) 01:47, 9 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::::I've heard "let's go through the door", not "inside" it. The game itself says "The Final Door: Xemnas, the last member of Organization XIII, vanished '''through''' | |||
the final door". In addition, when they defeat Xemnas on the other side of the door, they reappear back outside the door, where they started, which wouldn't make a ton of sense if they had simply gone to a different location and would, presumably, not get automatically cast ''back'' through the door if it was just a regular physical place -- when Sora went through the door at the end of End of the World, which took him to a different location, and that world collapsed, he ended up in a new place close to the collapsed location, rather than being cast back through the door. The fact that it's called "inside", and that they are expelled after Xemnas is weakened, strongly implies it's an inner world created by Xemnas -- just like TWTNW was in the first place, or what they do in KH3D with the nesting TWTNW dreams. | |||
::::::It makes more sense if it's an inner world, similar to the Dive to the Heart, whose "physical" location is inside the Kingdom Hearts that Xemnas merged with.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 02:34, 9 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Title == | |||
Just for posterity, KHUX has made "Superior of the In-Between" the official, complete title. It's no longer just our translation.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 15:40, 13 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
:It's been official since Days 1.5 opening... ''[[User:Ultima Spark|<span style="color:#002395 ;">Ultima Spark</span>]]'' '''[[User talk:Ultima Spark|<span style="color:#007FFF ;">(talk)</span>]]''' [[File:Lofty Fantasy KH3D.png|17px]] 16:11, 13 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
::Oh, well then fuck me. LOL.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 17:08, 13 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
== [[Gazing Eye]] == | |||
Well, we finally have a good reason why Terra-Xehanort may have purposefully chosen not to summon his Keyblade, given it has the Gazing Eye on it.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 18:36, 18 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
:I don't see how it relates. Like, what does the Master of Masters being able to foresee affect? Xemnas would have no reason to fear him, since he wouldn't even have a reason to assume he's alive. Also, Nomura confirmed on January 12's Famitsu that the Master of Masters won't be in KHIII (or even KHUX season 2. We'll probably only see him again in the next saga, as there's hints KHUX will connect to it somehow unless Nomura wants to make him a perpetual mystery), so I'm not really sure if that being the reason would actually affect the plot in any way. | |||
:The most accepted theory I've seen is that Xemnas had to hide he was a Keyblade wielder from the Organization, or else they would question why they needed 13 members and the last one had to be a wielder if Xemnas could simply complete Kingdom Hearts by himself. {{User:G-SANtos/Sig}} 02:08, 19 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
::If Terra was aware of the purpose of the eye, he may have tried to suppress its use -- or maybe Xehanort himself is rebelling against the Master in some ways. However, that's just a theory I've seen making the rounds.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 13:56, 19 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
== Xehanort's Soul == | |||
It took Ansem and Xemnas being destroyed for Master Xehanort to be re-completed, Xemnas would only be needed for the re-completion if he possessed one of Xehanort's attributes, Ansem had the heart and Xemnas had Terra's body, not Xehanort's, so Xemnas must possess Xehanort's soul. Thus, Xemnas having Xehanort's soul should be on the page I feel. --[[User:Vanitas|Vanitas]] ([[User talk:Vanitas|talk]]) 19:50, 14 March 2019 (UTC) | |||
:I get where you're coming from but adding that would be speculation as it's not confirmed. Souls also isn't really a thing in KH. - {{User:JTD95/Signature}} | |||
::Wasn't it said that when a person split the Heart went to the Heartless while the Body and Soul went to the Nobody? --[[User:Vanitas|Vanitas]] ([[User talk:Vanitas|talk]]) 22:07, 14 March 2019 (UTC) | |||
:::Checked with what the Nobody page on the wiki said and you're right. I guess due to the soul part hardly being mentioned it's easy to forget about. I'm still unsure though of whether we can prove that Xemnas has Xehanort's soul. ~ - {{User:JTD95/Signature}} 22:42, 14 March 2019 (UTC) | |||
::::Well he needs to have a component of Xehanort to be necessary for re-completion, and the only one he could possibly have is his soul. Wouldn't that logic be proof enough? --[[User:Vanitas|Vanitas]] ([[User talk:Vanitas|talk]]) 22:54, 14 March 2019 (UTC) | |||
:::::In my eyes, logic and speculation are the same thing when it comes to the Kingdom Hearts series. I once tried to use logic in a discussion, back before I was even a user. It didn't go too well. [[User:Rex Ronald Rilander|Rex Ronald Rilander]] ([[User talk:Rex Ronald Rilander|talk]]) 06:16, 15 March 2019 (UTC) | |||
::::::Same here. It makes sense to me, which means it's probably non-canonical.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 13:25, 15 March 2019 (UTC) | |||