Talk:Darkness

Mistakes

There are so many mistakes that were found on this article:

1. KH?-Use the full term Kingdom Hearts we are not some pathetic fan site.
2. Gravity is a form of magic that utilizes darkness.? Gravity is not of the Darkness if you read the first game it said "Obtain the Power of the Stars" how cam stars be dark magic?

Who ever started this article must get their facts straight. Zolo >=(

The "Power of The Stars" Is Symbolic Star=Weight .To be Honest Traditionally gravity magic has Been Associated However Loosely (Diabolos) In Final Fantasy

Xiggie Buy / Sell — Welcome! What do you wanna do? Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— {{{time}}} I, personally, associate Gravity with Darkness. guess that is because I play Final Fantasy, and Gravity is extremely similar to Demi (darkness magic). but I get that Gravity = weight (power of the stars)... but still... EDIT: I just looked at the Gravity article, and there it says: Gravity...skipping...the element of Weight and Darkness. note, weight AND darkness!

Re-written

Hey guys, I rewrote most of the article. Let me know if it needs anything else. User:OrangeGel

Re-written, Edit

SnoweyShadow - Tu Ne Cede Malis Sed Contra Audentior Ito. TALK - Yeild not to misfortunes, but advance all the more boldly against them. Rewrote some of the article using what was there. Have some questions about recent edits. Why are the Nobodies/Organization not considered "Darkness" users? They wield the darkness to walk the Corridors of Darkness don't they? They're also born of Darkness giving them just as much control over it as their siblings. Also included Gravity and Magnet as Darkness due to the articles here and the information found in Kingdom Hearts II's Jimney's Journal.

Keyblade Confusion

SnoweyShadow - Tu Ne Cede Malis Sed Contra Audentior Ito. TALK - Yeild not to misfortunes, but advance all the more boldly against them. Alright, figured I should talk about it here as opposed to constantly adding it and having it removed. If I remember "Another Report" properly, the outer portion of a Keyblade determines it's "alignment". Mickey's Keyblade is a dark alignment while the inside follows his pure heart (it's a confusing situation). I had previously included the Dark Keyblade because, although not a natural Keyblade, it's outer layer would've been Dark aligned to open the door to darkness...or at least that's assume. Likewise Oblivion and Soul Eater are assumed to be Dark alignment although it hasn't been introduced in canon. Let the discussions commence?

The outer portion of a Keyblade determines its alignment. Sounds plausible. Some say that Way to the Dawn is a Keyblade of the Realm of Darkness rather than the Realm of In Between due to it "originating" from the Soul Eater. I usually take a neutral stand when people talk about this - but what do you think ? Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne

SnoweyShadow - Tu Ne Cede Malis Sed Contra Audentior Ito. TALK - Yeild not to misfortunes, but advance all the more boldly against them. According to Nomura in "Another Report", Way to the Dawn shares the same alignment as Kairi and Sora's Keyblade. So it's technically a Light aligned Keyblade even though Riku himself is in-between.

Sweet. So we can add that in, I suppose ? Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne

SnoweyShadow - Tu Ne Cede Malis Sed Contra Audentior Ito. TALK - Yeild not to misfortunes, but advance all the more boldly against them. Yep, the changes you made already seem to be fine. Now if we could only figure out what each individual Keyblade's alignment was.

ShadowXemnas - Nothingness...is...ETERNAL!!! TALK - Turn to Darkness! This sounds very interesting. I'm thinking that Ultima is probably affiliated with Light. Follow the Wind might be a Darknesss type, and probably Pumpkinhead, too, based on this plausible theory.

Actually Another report still does not say "realm of light" keyblade just "The same type as Sora's" that could mean anything! He did mention "Heart of world's" Keyblade as opposed too "Keyblade of peoples hearts"

The same type as Sora's could only lead to one point : Sora's Keyblade was from the Realm of Light. What else could that imply ? Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne

KrytenKoro - "Space Corp Directive 195—In an emergency power situation, a hologrammatic crew member must lay down his life in order that the living crew members might survive."  "Yes, but Rimmer Directive 271 states just as clearly: 'No chance, you metal bastard.'" TALK - ...it's the topic of the entire bloody paragraph. "There isn't necessarily one keyblade for the dark side and one for the light side, just as many as there exist people with qualified hearts. Concerning the conditions to wield one, at this stage, "Those with strong hearts" is the only obvious one. However, less obvious conditions still exist and there are still plans for an opportunity to reveal those. Riku's "Way to the Dawn" and Kairi's keyblade are naturally the same type of keyblade as Sora's. However there is no particular explanation for the Soul Eater's transfer and occurrence, as well as Riku's handing it to Kairi. When there isn't a normal process of acquisition, I think its ok to think there is some deeper meaning there." And it comes right after the paragraph explaining that there's only two types of Keyblade.

Hm..... got it noted. Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne

KrytenKoro - Most bears were content to live their lives, mauling and eating one, maybe two humans at most. "Mass-murder," as the bears always said, "is for the sharks." But not Barry. Barry was different. He knew that one day, he would kill ALL of the humans. This is the inspiring, tear-jerking story of one bear and the dream he dared to dream. TALK - Oh, sorry trois - I just noticed that it might sound like I was annoyed at you. I was responding to the anon.

It's okay, I know. It's just... I didn't take notice of the paragraph after the alignment. ^_^ Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne

Disambiguation

There needs to be a disambig, but what should it be at? Dark, Darkness, Darker?Glorious CHAOS! 08:20, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay, since the Dark materials are the only "proper" use of the word, I'll use that as a primary target, and have a youmay to lead to the disambig page.Glorious CHAOS! 03:20, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Times spoken

maggosh Strike backwards... — "That's a nice expression." You're terrified, aren't you? Someone made a video on YouTube counting the number of times the words "Darkness" and "Dark" are spoken in I and II. Darkness was used 93 times (an even 100 if you count Kairi's Grandmother's story), and Dark was only used 13. Is this relevant at all? Can this be added?

NinjaSheik - All of this might have started with a lie...But I'm really am glad that I could meet you... TALK - One day, the light-it will be ours, and it will bring us together. Til then, I'll be in your heart... Why should it? Who cares who many time the word have been spoken? It's not important.

maggosh Strike backwards... — "That's a nice expression." You're terrified, aren't you? Alright, alright. Sheesh. No need to go ballistic.

NinjaSheik - All of this might have started with a lie...But I'm really am glad that I could meet you... TALK - One day, the light-it will be ours, and it will bring us together. Til then, I'll be in your heart... Sorry. I had a rough day.

Sora?

When the heck does Sora use Darkness? His heart is to pure to even use it if I'm correct. Randomnessity Looks like you're already prepared.

His Anti-form, it's in reference to his anti-form. Aoyoku 10:20, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Aging effect?

Couldn't be possible that abusing the power of darkness could possibly have some...long-term effects on the body? Of course we know that gaining yellow eyes is a tell-tale sign, but I think dwelling in the dark for so long may have sped up Master Xehanort's aging. He looks a little too old to be Eraqus' colleague, not to mention his bald, noticeable veiny cranium. I don't know, it's a possibility. I also noticed that Braig a little different aside from the yellow eye and pointy ears when seen at the Keyblade Graveyard. Kaihedgie 16:09, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

It is possible Riku does seems to grow up very fast after Castle Oblivion there is even a discussion about it in his talk pageTalk:Riku#Aging, and now that you said I think it happen to Isa too as his nobody seems older than Axel--Xabryn 17:18, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

"Most used word"

I highly doubt that - "is" is a word, for example.Glorious CHAOS! 04:54, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

(shrug) Key term, maybe? Even so, is it really said more than "heart"? --Neumannz 05:23, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Surprisingly, it is. Darkness is used 124 times in reverse/rebirth alone. Besides all of the words like "is, the, etc." It is most definitely the most used word. KKD

kinda obvious, but still needs to be said

Lying Memories - I'd rather we just skip the formalities. TALK - The Darkness in men's hearts, drawn to these cursed medallions; and this Heartless, a veritable maelstrom of avarice: I wonder, are they worthy to serve Organization XIII? - Lying Memories 02:00, July 27, 2010 (UTC) well, remember in that extra bonus report thingy that said that the reason King Mickey and Riku aren't really affected by the darkness as much is because they share similarities to the Nobodies? Well... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8LewagXsZ4 here we have at the 4:38 mark Vexen, Lexaeus, and Zexion conversing about two visitors, one being the Maleficent memory, the other being Riku. Zexion comments how the "other visitor" (Riku) bears a scent very similar to the Superior Xemnas. I'm almost 100% positive that he means the presence of Xehanort's Heartless, the other side of the scenario. The bonus report thing I mentioned was like idk the Director's Report? Idk it was some sort of bonus thing you could get.

Beast: Darkness or rage?

17master - Hey, guys, check out my new camera! TALK - Oh wait, this isn't a camera... - 03:12, September 25, 2010 (UTC) We know that the Beast on KH2 was controlled by Xaldin, although I'm pretty confused. Was it the darkness that controlled his emotions, or his own rage? If it's the darkness, then can we put him in the list of darkness-users?

Disneyvillainman - I'm what you might call an expert in the art of Darkness. TALK - Rather a stubborn ol' goat, wouldn't ya say? I believe it's darkness born from his rage. I don't know if he would be considered a darkness user, though.

17master - Hey, guys, check out my new camera! TALK - Oh wait, this isn't a camera... - 03:40, September 25, 2010 (UTC) well he didn't do it on purpose and he attacked Sora simply because the darkness drives him mad, so... I guess not, huh?

Effects of Darkness

ShardofTruth Once you believe, truth and lie are quite the same thing. — 08:44, 10 October 2011 (UTC) The passage could use some facts. It's never stated if Riku's eyes were changed under the blindfold and Ansem the Wise's eyes were always orange. Even wandering through the Realm of Darkness for time years (or so), Aqua's eyes haven't changed a bit. These are the only official answers we have concerning the changes from the KHBBS Ultimania: Question:Comparing the Organisation members when they were human to when they were in the Organisation, apart from Xehanort, only Isa and Braig have differently-shaped ears and differently-coloured eyes - why is this? Nomura: It's a question of whether or not they're deeply connected to Xehanort. In Braig's case, comparing the scene where he's injured in his battle with Terra and flares up at Xehanort, his appearance afterwards changes, which hints that something happened with Xehanort in between. Q14: Did something happen in Xigbar’s past? A: He was Master Xehanort's accomplice. The number two member in the Organization Xigbar conspired with Master Xehanort when he was a human named Braig. Because of this, he knows more about Xemnas, who is the Nobody of Xehanort, than anyone else. That is why he often says strange things, and can speak up against Xemnas. [picture: Braig and Master Xehanort} Braig was involved with Xehanort's plans, but as you can see they have some sort unknown promise between them. -Where he got his eye patch and scar- As Master Xehanort was trying to get Terra’s body as a vessel for himself, Braig tried to lure Terra into the darkness by fighting him. But the power of darkness that Terra released was stronger than he would have imagined, and he ended up losing his right eye and getting a wound along his cheek. Afterwards Braig’s ears become sharper, and his brown eyes change to gold. This is because he was influenced by Xehanort who he was working with. So the body changes may not be effect from Darkness alone but are applied through Master Xehanort.

17master - Hey, guys, check out my new camera! TALK - Oh wait, this isn't a camera... - {{{time}}} I've removed the said section from the article. Thanks for sharing this info, Shard! Also, on what section should we mention this "unique" ability? On the ability section, Story, or even Trivia? And I think we should put a cite that links to the interview, probably from external website or Shard's compilation of interviews.

Claude Frollo

Sould Claude Frollo be counted a user of Darkness