Forum:Revote

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General info

• The wikia wiki will remain at the top of the search engines for a while - we must work continuously at the new address for it to replace it.
• The transfer will transfer everything, at its current place. For best results, we would ask for people to stop editing while the dump is being made. Even the user accounts can be transferred, so all you need to do is update your bookmarks.
• We could implement direct ads through Project Wonderful (ex. Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep or webcomic ads, but they'd have to find us) or a fundraising drive (possibly with a raffle) if we wish.
  • Some of Dantman's ad ideas:
    • "a small block of Project Wonderful ads below the navigation box in the sidebar (2-3 ads high, 2 ads wide, small banners, maybe one wider banner at higher price), as well as a 300px ad in a right sidebar above an infobox area, if there is no right sidebar on the page then instead either a banner ad above the page title header, or perhaps in an island above the whole content area. I might consider making those banner or box ads project wonderful ads with a minimum price which fallback to advertising networks when there is no advertisement, which should allow a fair box with revenue coming from advertising networks but which allows direct advertisers who are willing to pay about as much as we get from the broad ad networks from an ad area to place their advertisement inside a page instead."
    • "I've also tossed around the idea of a separate instance for pages in certain categories, like "Video Games", allowing for a directly targeted ad on video game articles, which could be an enticing space for a store that sells those games to want to take over."
    • "A lot of different ideas have been tossed around on the Narutopedia and elsewhere and gone through my head; Play-Asia affiliation. Hulu videos (while I hate hulu, 3rd party sites that embed videos get 10% of Hulu's cut of the advertising profits from videos which are watched on the 3rd party site), various ad networks, Project Wonderful, bg takeover ads (not favored), partnerships with relevant companies, donations, etc..."
• Wherever we move, we need several editors to keep monthly updates of the database.
• We should take the opportunity to install bots
• We might look into installing a "User template" space.
• We might eliminate "my home" and replace it with a user-spaces oriented RC and a main-spaces oriented RC.

Options

ShoutWiki

• One server, may not be accepting moves currently
• Ad-supported
• Several noted problems with speed reported from already moved-from-Wikia wikis.
• Monaco is already installed.
• According to Dantman, the group who runs this is quite shady.

Wikkii

• Requires small google text ad somewhere on page; location is at community's discretion.
• If one goes for the advanced hosting. offers the following benefits
  • full ftp & cpanel access
  • freedom to install extensions and to add skins
• Knowledge about server side control required.
• Backups are not provided by the host, backups are webmaster's responsibility.
• Reported speed problems on Friday evenings (European time), otherwise good uptime.
• Free domain for popular wikis.

SEIWA / Kingdom Hearts DB

• Independence from a wiki-host, allowing us freedom to code our wiki and stylize it more freely than ever before, as well assurance we won't have another "Wikia's Oasis."
• Already exists (user accounts and all), but needs to be updated
• Monaco can be installed when we give them the usable code (tfwiki.net has a version), already has monobook and vector installed
• The url needs to be moved to khwiki.net, but this can be done easily.
• One person is in charge of all software issues, so it is possible we would not have as much freedom as with wikkii. However, so long as they don't compromise security, the owner will install extensions and add skins as requested.
• Joins us with other large wikis, including the ever-expanding Final Fantasy Wiki, as well as SquareWiki, Chronopedia, and more, to benefit from our common focus on Square Enix subjects. (See Forum:Square Enix Portal)
• Knowledge about server side control not required.
• No ads are necessary right now, but we can ask about adding direct Kingdom Hearts ads if we wish, or about implementing a fundraising drive

SEIWA / Misc

• We could implement targeted ads or a fundraising drive if we wish.
• Dantman mentioned that Narutopedia might possibly move, and that there is a small chance they could help with the hosting infrastructure.