User talk:BebopKate/Archive10

Standard Enemy Image names

Azul81677 - "Ebil minds think ebily alike." - A collaboration between 2 very ebil minds
TALK - 00:22, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe this conversation has been held before, I cannot remember >> As of late, err... since the dawn of this wiki's time, image names have been all over the place. I remember at one point, images (cards I believe they were) were being deleted and re-uploaded to standardize the names of them. Should we do this with all Heartless, Nobody, Unversed, what have you, images? I'm thinking of something like:

"Enemy name" and "extension" being replaced with the obvious and "game" being: khi, khii, khcom, khdays etc. This will be a huge project, but since I'm not currently committed to any project in particular ._. , I'm sure I can do it. What say you lady admin?

BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy!
TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...00:36, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

I say go for it. Anything to make tracking down images easier. Just watch the links...but then again I really don't need to tell you of all people that, right? ^_-

Azul81677 - "Ebil minds think ebily alike." - A collaboration between 2 very ebil minds
TALK - 00:41, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

Pshhh, of course not <_>

New Category Execution Idea

Eternal Nothingness XIII - I'm not afraid of what the darkness holds now. Even if you do wrest control of my heart from me, even if you cast me into the deepest, darkest abyss, you'll never sway me from the one cause that pushes me to keep on fighting. Whatever the cost, I'm ready to pay it.
TALK - There's darkness within me... So what does that matter? I know I'm strong enough to hold it back. — 00:23, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

If you wouldn't mind seeing here and give feedback, that'd be much appreciated. Just a way to jazz up the categories or some other thing that I got an idea from the Cirque du Freak Wiki. I had brought it up before, to no avail. Rather than the links, I think we could just paste the code for a template we'd create onto the category page, right? I'm not too sure. We'd have to contact the Wiki to get it right. I have no clue if that made any sense to you :P

Just an idea. If not the categories, perhaps we could implement it into the lists of Heartless/Nobodies/Characters on their respected pages some how...

BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy!
TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...00:09, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Ah, I see what it does. That's a good idea, but we have so many characters it might make it tough to navigate. It might be great for things like Keyblades, or as you said, creature types.

Have you put it in the regular forums for other ideas on how we could use it? It's probably worth examining...

Eternal Nothingness XIII - You have to be strong. Strength of heart will carry you through the hardest of trials.
TALK - What I do, I do for friendship. — 00:36, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

I had, but there were no responses. Now that we have examples (unfortunately non-KH examples), perhaps one of us should bring it back up again...

EDIT : Also, if you wouldn't mind seeing User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Mirage Arena and giving feedback, that'd be appreciated. Reason for wasting an hour of my morning was because Joint Struggle hosts a VERY incomplete/inaccurate Mirage Arena WORLD Infobox... We had decided not to make an article for Mirage Arena as there's not any information on it, but they out-of-place world infobox makes the suggestion that this is what must be done. It doesn't make sense to have a world infobox on a MULTIPLAYER article, especially when it's filled with kinks.

BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy!
TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...03:28, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Looks like a good start to me. I'm sure more info will come down the pike soon enough to fill in the missing bits.

Eternal Nothingness XIII - But why? Help me understand, Master Xehanort. What is it that I have failed to learn?
TALK - What? How did I— What did I do? What did YOU do? — 10:27, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

Could we just remove the Infobox, though, on Joint Struggle, I mean?

A Few Questions

Eternal Nothingness XIII - I'm not afraid of what the darkness holds now. Even if you do wrest control of my heart from me, even if you cast me into the deepest, darkest abyss, you'll never sway me from the one cause that pushes me to keep on fighting. Whatever the cost, I'm ready to pay it.
TALK - There's darkness within me... So what does that matter? I know I'm strong enough to hold it back. — 09:37, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

I was ~~stalking~~ browsing the Wiki, and I wondered a few things :

Can anyone update the Diary, or just the staff?
Does a BBS spoiler template exist yet? If so, I didn't find colors in an apparent rough draft "accurate." I'll need to edit those :P

I honestly can't wait for BBS to come out on Saturday. Of course I have to be in Boston on the release date >_< But when I get home on Sunday, it's back to rotting in front of YouTube watching the Japanese version and getting a headache because of it until the English release.

Another big hopeful accomplishment for me this week :

Just finished reading Animal Farm for school. Book was actually pretty easy to get, but I'm not so sure I'm ready for Wednesday's big test...
So my parents said I couldn't have an FB until I got my grades up, saying by the next report card, they'd think about it. This means I must now confront that girl I told you about, ask her if she still wants to be FB friends, hope she says yes, tell her I may get one soon and ask if we can just e-mail back and forth as a start :P

So I suppose you can ignore my excess rambling (Xigbar Moment XD) and just read/answer my questions... Or you could read the whole thing...

DoorToNothing

— I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven!

_{And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 10:15, January 3, 2010 (UTC)}

Since BebopKate probably has "normal" sleep patterns, I'll take care of your questions:

Just Staff can update Roxas's Diary. Does it not say that on the page? If not, I'll add it.
Yes, just like how Template:Spoiler 358/2 Days existed especially for Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days, Template:Spoiler Birth exists especially for Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep. Don't apply it yet, though, as the information released so far has just been Nomura's foreshadowing and gameplay elements.

Actually, BebopKate, I want to know what the point is in having unique spoiler templates just for Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep and Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days, whereas we treat several games with just one spoiler template. Personally, I would prefer for all spoiler templates to be the same.

BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy!
TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...02:28, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Sleep? What's sleep? ^_^

DTN answered both wiki questions, and to answer his question, I honestly have no clue why, and I kind of agree.

To answer your other questions, ENX: I remember it being a good book, though it's been ages, and I think you'll do fine, and awesome on the FB! If you need assistance, you know where to reach me. ^_^

Eternal Nothingness XIII - I'm not afraid of what the darkness holds now. Even if you do wrest control of my heart from me, even if you cast me into the deepest, darkest abyss, you'll never sway me from the one cause that pushes me to keep on fighting. Whatever the cost, I'm ready to pay it.
TALK - There's darkness within me... So what does that matter? I know I'm strong enough to hold it back. — 00:32, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks to DTN for answering the questions. And thank you, Bebop for being so kind to me since my joining last summer... where does the time go?

I'll be sure to let you know if I need a hand :D

By the way, lovely talk bubbles you guys have got there. BebopKate's one is unusually blue ! ^_^

Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • Trois Nyx Étienne — 02:29, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy!
TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...{{{time}}}

Thank you. I changed it blue partially in celebration of Birth by Sleep and partially because blue is my favorite color and I haven't had a blue bubble yet.

DoorToNothing

— I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven!

_{And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 03:12, January 4, 2010 (UTC)}

Oh, and here I was thinking that our good ol' BebopKate has gone colorblind, hahaha. I'll redirect the spoiler templates used for Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days to the original Spoiler template. If you could just delete the Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep spoiler template, that'd be great. Oh, and thanks for the arms on my Yellow Opera sprite; they look great!

BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy!
TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...03:16, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, my talk bubble doesn't have to match my sprite, y'know. ^_^ Thanks for taking care of the redirect, and you're quite welcome for the Yellow Opera fix.

I guess not, though I must say that a match would look oh so nice ^_^

EDIT 03:20, January 4, 2010 (UTC) : I just noticed that your introductory talk bubble has the word Allons-y in it. ^_^

Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • Trois Nyx Étienne — 03:18, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy!
TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...03:24, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Figured you'd get a kick out of that. ^_^ David Tennant's version of the Doctor on Doctor Who uses it as one of his catchphrases. My current bubble quote is from him as well.

I see ! ^_^

I'm as good as new! All my functions have been restored! • Trois Nyx Étienne — 03:43, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Blue Signature, if desired.

DoorToNothing

— I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven!

_{And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 00:39, January 5, 2010 (UTC)}

As always, I've set you up with another custom signature, this time blue to match your talk template:

BebopKate

But wait, there's more! Since you have gone through several differently colored variations of your signature, it would be much better to save your signature in the same way that Yer mom and I do. By doing this, all of your signatures applied in the future will automatically change next time your signature is modified. It also prevents that very long string of coding that creates your custom signature from appearing. Simply follow the following steps:

Create the page User:BebopKate/Sig. In it, place the coding for your custom signature.
Create the page User:BebopKate/Autosig. In it, place the following content: {{User:BebopKate/Sig}}.
In your Preferences, insert the following content into the custom signature box: {{SUBST:User:BebopKate/Autosig}}

Just holler if you need any further assistance; but wait, there's even more! I tinkered around with your Kingdom Hearts Mobile Daisy sprite, and colored it up to match your talk bubble as well. Just as with the signature, feel free to use the image if desired. Due to my semi-humane obsession with have an image that faces the bubble, I also saved a reversed verson:

BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy!
TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...04:11, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, DTN, thank you so much! I was pondering recoloring Daisy, but I truly appreciate you doing it for me. In deference to you, I've put her facing the "right side." ^_^

Also, thank you for the sig and sig shortcuts. I was going to do this ages ago, but couldn't remember where you'd posted it to. More blue...hooray!

By the way, I sorta copied doing this because my old sig just randomly disappeared awhile ago. - HeartOfOblivion 04:32, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

Mission Dealies

		Neumannz — Looks like I'm gonna have to jump...! TALK — I work alone! Except when I work with Xion...which is all the time. — 05:19, January 5, 2010 (UTC)



		Heys and yos, it's your friendly neighborhood NZ, offering my services with yon mission articles. Having recently bought the guide for really no better reason than to help out around here [exasperated sigh], I can be very much helping with the nitty gritty details of the missions; bonus percentages, challenge mission criteria, and the like. Although, as I noticed while doing No. 49, the guide is not really very specific for walkthrough purposes, so, yeah. (And having lent out my Days to a friend, I can't go back and look myself.) Anyway, I'm already doing some stuff here and there, though I am never sure whose toes I'm about to step on, so if you want to delegate some of the missions to me, I'd be happy to run them down, so to speak.

BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy!
TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...06:19, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

Pick what you like; I'm not picky and I wear steel-toed boots, so it's pretty hard to step on my toes. ^_^ I might go back through and pump up some of the walkthroughs or add any other missing info, but please feel free to add any info to any mission article; there are aspects I don't have and it would help me out greatly.

Mission Article Review

Hey Kate, sorry to bother you. I've been working on the Mission pages today: filling them in, and such, along with Neumannz and HeartOfOblivion correcting spelling errors, grammer, etc. I did not remove the "Under Construction" template because I would like you to review them and remove it if they meet the criteria. If you wouldn't mind that is, I'd appreciate it. Also, take your time on reviewing these, this is just to inform you of recently completed mission articles.

The articles are: Mission 44, Mission 45, Mission 48, Mission 51, and Mission 53.

Thanks!

Xion 4 ever Who am I? ^{— 00:43, January 6, 2010 (UTC)}

BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy!
TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...01:58, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

They all look just fine to me; couldn't have done them better myself, honestly. You guys do fantastic work. ^_^

Thank you all so much; I really appreciate the help.

MoS Update

Eternal Nothingness XIII - You have to be strong. Strength of heart will carry you through the hardest of trials.
TALK - What I do, I do for friendship. — 02:13, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

As I edited the Darkside article, I found several times that it was listed as a "he" or "his". Both terms are wrong. Heartless and Nobodies, as well as Unversed, are genderless, with the exception of Organization XIII. Below is an example talking about the Zip Slasher :

Enemies should also be classified as "it" and "its" in terms of possession.

YES : It uses a powerful slash attack
NO : "He uses a powerful slash attack

Organization XIII, as well as any named Heartless/Nobody with a given gender such as Xehanort's Heartless, is an exception to this rule

YES : Xemnas uses powerful slash attacks. He also wields Nothingness. OR Xehanort's Heartless is the main antagonist of Kingdom Hearts. He is dubbed the Seeker of Darkness

NO : Larxene is the only female in the Organization besides Xion. It, being a Nobody, has no heart.

Just keeping it generic, as I found this error several times. It's inevitable that this has happened/will happen in other articles, as well. If this isn't MoS-worthy, it should at least be brought to the editors' attention.

BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy!
TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...05:27, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

You make a good point. Add that one to the MoS, please, and a little reminder wouldn't hurt either.

Eternal Nothingness XIII - But why? Help me understand, Master Xehanort. What is it that I have failed to learn?
TALK - What? How did I— What did I do? What did YOU do? — 10:15, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

ME editing the MoS? I'm honored :P However, what do you mean by "a little reminder"? Where do I put this? Under Enemies?

EDIT : Done. Not sure I did it correctly, so check it out. Also, I find an issue with the "Use 's vs. s'". As you (and now Azul) have stated, these are both correct. I suppose s' is used more frequently with possession, as the name isn't "Xemna" or "Roxa" or "Ventu", but just because it ticks a few users off doesn't make it MoS worthy, nor does it make us liable to arguing against the MLA Handbook.

EDIT 2 : Some more things to consider as I scanned articles for common errors :

All original terms are captiolized, such as "Drive Form/Gauge" and "Organization XIII"
Characters aren't exactly "killed", rather destroyed/eliminated (I suppose that's pretty much the same thing, but...

I don't know about that last one. I just don't like seeing "killed" in the article. Nobodies and Heartless, you could say, are inanimate objects, and you don't kill a lamp. That should hold true for all enemies, lesser or a character-Heartless/Nobody. When talking about human characters (Ansem the Wise), an alternate term should be used such as "annihilated", as "killed" seems to unprofessional and dark.

BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy!
TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...04:40, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Ack, somehow I missed this last time out! Your additions look just fine. I do agree that annihilated or eliminated would be better choices for words, but that's a bit nitpicky to add to the Manual; my view is if someone really doesn't like it, it will eventually get changed. The original terms thing is a good reminder. If that gets to be a problem, we can take it one step further and make a Capitalization Guide. We did that over at White Wolf for some of the game lines and it's come in handy quite a few times.

As for the plural thing, granted you shouldn't argue with the MLA, but remember not everyone uses MLA either; I had to use APA standards while I was a teacher to present professional papers and presentations, for example. Ironic we teach MLA, but we don't actually use it. ^_^

Problem

Hey Kate, sorry to bother you. We have a problem here; please see this. This user has posted multipul comments on alot of users talkpages (mainly guys, but one to me >>). Anyways, this is very suspicious. Please, see the page and take the needed actions. This is not appropriate. Thanks!

Nevermind, Hex took care of it. Sorry for the bother!--Xion4 ever 02:55, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

Excuse me, but judging from their edits, I suspect that these three users may be the same person. The unregistered contributor is obviously just zachdawg not signing in. But the check the edit history on Kingdom657's talk page, and you'll see that he only responded once, the following responses being made by zachdawg. I asked both about it, but only zachdawg has responded, denying that he has even heard of Kingdom657, which is clearly not true. Both Kingdom657 and the unregistered contributor have been adding speculation and nonsense to the articles like "Demyx is based on david bowie" in the trivia section.Lapis Scarab 20:48, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

Looks like Hexed tagged him first. Let us know if he manages to make any future appearances. BebopKate 02:51, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

to be absolutely fair to the anon: User:KrytenKoro#This_explains_everything.21.Glorious CHAOS! 04:39, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

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