Talk:Χ-blade

Saxisai Chat it up! — AHAHAHAHAHA!! That boy is a monster infused with darkness — Saxisai 03:44, January 10, 2010 (UTC) what happened to the original article?

Saxisai Chat it up! — AHAHAHAHAHA!! That boy is a monster infused with darkness — Saxisai 04:03, January 10, 2010 (UTC) wait a minute, are you telling me that it was that significant for you to make the second "b" capitalized? Was it really that big of a deal for you to create a whole new page?

Name

KingdomKeyDarkside - Why? Why do you have the Keyblade? TALK - 'Cause I'm not a total sap like you. — 15:52, January 10, 2010 (UTC) Dude, this should really just be X-Blade.

Saxisai Chat it up! — OH MY GOD! "Look at my face!" — Saxisai 15:58, January 10, 2010 (UTC) Wow man, really? We had a whole debate over this on the previous talk page before someone remade the article. I guess I have to restate my reason why this is Vanitas' X-Blade: "It has been brought to my attention that some people feel that the X-Blade should not be put under Vanitas' ownership. I feel that since it has only been wielded by Vanitas, it is ok to assume rightful ownership to him. If someone were to wield it in the future, this article will have to be changed to "X-Blade", but seeing as it has only been wielded by Vanitas, I feel it should stay the same. What are your thoughts on this?" (directly pasted from the other page) and LegoAlchemist has stated: "I think that, for know, with the information that we have, we should leave it under Vanitas's X-Blade. I mean, He is the only person that wields it (Ventus not counting, because Vanitas was probably possessing his body). So until we learn it's official name, we should leave it as is." There are some reasons, but its whatever you guys want to do, I've had more than enough of my share of debating with you...

LegoAlchemist - They changed "Snipe Magnet" to "Magnet Grab"? Who's translating this game, 4kids? TALK - Friendships are in direct contravention of mercenary conduct as delineated in your contracts, and on a personal note: I am very, very, disappointed with you. I agree with you, Saxisai, and I know you have been battling over this for a while. And thanks for posting my argument. And in the future, to the one who made the article Vanitas's X-Blade, use the option "Move" at the top of the page rather than completely starting a new article. That way, all of the previous discussions remain in the talk page, and everyone's happy.

Xiggie Buy / Sell — Welcome! What do you wanna do? Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— 16:41, January 10, 2010 (UTC) Well, I think that this article should be named just "X-Blade". I mean, although Vanitas is the only one who wields it, it doesn't mean it's name should have his name included in it... I mean, we don't call the Soul Eater "Riku's Soul Eater" now do we?

Saxisai Chat it up! — AHAHAHAHAHA!! That boy is a monster infused with darkness — Saxisai 16:49, January 10, 2010 (UTC) There, I moved it, now everyone should be happy.

It does make more sense that way. I mean, all of the other weapon pages about weapons that only one person ever wields don't have the person's name in the title. Just Xiggie said. Randomnessity Looks like you're prepared.

Saxisai Chat it up! — Hmmmmm... "Think think think think think think think..." — Saxisai 17:22, January 10, 2010 (UTC) Well, I was going to respond to that with "well what about TAV's keyblades?", but I know we most likely just don't know the name of them yet, besides Gaia Bane.

Saxisai Chat it up! — Hmmmmm... "Think think think think think think think..." — Saxisai 22:59, January 10, 2010 (UTC) So wait, the name is actually pronounced Kai-Blade? And why was the page moved once again? There isn't anything different about the name, just information.

Look at the katakana...It's pronounced the same as "Keyblade". "Kii" is another pronunciation of chi. And the page was moved because the Latin X and the Greek chi are actually different letters. Now it's at [Chi]-Blade and not [X]-Blade.—Urutapu 23:06, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Saxisai Chat it up! — AHAHAHAHAHA!! That boy is a monster infused with darkness — Saxisai 23:15, January 10, 2010 (UTC) I'm not sure you got what I said, I meant that the name, as in the actual english spelling, X-Blade, is still the same, which is the title of the page. But it says that the page has been moved from X-Blade to X-Blade...but it is the exact same thing...so, why did the page have to be moved? Couldn't the information on the page just be changed? I get that the pronunciation of the title has changed, but its not noticeable in the spelling...

Neumannz — Looks like I'm gonna have to jump...! TALK — I work alone! Except when I work with Xion...which is all the time. — Neumannz 23:25, January 10, 2010 (UTC)   Well, now I'm downright confused. The pronouciation symbol on the page indicates a long "i", making it 'kai', but why is the same symbol used to show the pronounciation of Keyblade? As more the page being moved, Saxisai, judging from the URL in IE, i'd say someone actually used the Greek letter in the name, which seems like taking it too far to me.

Saxisai Chat it up! — AH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH! "Quote will be added as soon as I get someone to translate a certain scene from Birth By Sleep for me!" — Saxisai 23:36, January 10, 2010 (UTC) yea...that is a little to far, and I saw that after I put it into Internet Explorer, (im using firefox, so i couldnt see)

Saxisai, a capital X and a capital chi look exactly the same but are actually different characters. Case in point: lowercase x versus lowercase χ. And as for the pronunciation, as I said in the history: Not in Japanese romanization. The macron doesn't mean "long i sound" (i.e. "eye") but "the Japanese i sound but longer" (i.e. "ee"). And there's no reason not to use the Greek letter, Neumannz. It's not an X. Besides, the Japanese subtitles (I'm not expecting you to go spoil yourself watching an endgame cutscene, just trust me) obviously use a chi and not an X.—Urutapu 00:25, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Saxisai Chat it up! — Hmmmmm... "Think think think think think think think..." — Saxisai 00:42, January 11, 2010 (UTC) Alright, I'm not going to argue anymore. I got what you were saying the first time, there was no need to repeat yourself. I was just thinking it would have been a lot easier to recognize the page with the actual X instead of the Greek letter, so this is the last I'm going to debate about the name. (lol)

Xabryn - I don't care if you're real!You're not better! TALK - It's nice to have darkness on my side.Xabryn 13:54, January 11, 2010 (UTC) Why is being said in [1] that Xehanort is using TERRA to get the X-Blade?

hell what is this thing period, I can tell that neither Xehanort nor vanitas will shut up about it in the ending but where did it come from. what is it here for. why does it look so simultaneously ridiculous and awesome.204.211.185.107 15:12, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

I want to know also,it kinda seems like it came from no where Naruto195 15:40, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Saxisai Chat it up! — AH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH! "Sorry, I just found it funny for some reason when you tried to take off my mask!" — Saxisai 15:50, January 11, 2010 (UTC) Well, watch the scenes again, im not disagreeing with you, but to make that dude higher up happy, are you sure they weren't talking about the keyblade in general? Since the X-Blade sounds exactly like keyblade (apparently)

Deletion?

Saxisai Chat it up! — AHAHAHAHAHA!! That boy is a monster infused with darkness — Saxisai 15:44, January 11, 2010 (UTC) So why was this article being put up for deletion again? Didn't we settle this already?

DELETION ? Who VFD'd it this time ? -___- This monster... This is no Unversed. Just a dweller of Darkness. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 15:47, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Saxisai Chat it up! — AHAHAHAHAHA!! That boy is a monster infused with darkness — Saxisai 15:51, January 11, 2010 (UTC) Idk, someone had it up for deletion for like 3 minutes, and right when i got to the deletion page, the deletion tag was removed =_=

Weeeeeiiiiiiird. But whoever VFD's this thing the next time should provide a valid enough reason. There are some things even the stars cannot tell me. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 01:04, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Storyling Contained

Eternal Nothingness XIII - But why? Help me understand, Master Xehanort. What is it that I have failed to learn? TALK - What? How did I— What did I do? What did YOU do? — 20:13, January 11, 2010 (UTC) Shouldn't we remove the bit of storyline information? True, the incomplete blade is destroyed by Ventus, and Aqua destroys the real thing when fighting Ven-itas, but we have no source stating that it formed Mickey's and Sora's Kingdom Key, at least that I know of.

Saxisai Chat it up! — Do you remember "when the world was a simpler place?" — Saxisai 20:25, January 11, 2010 (UTC) Yea, I was thinking this as well, when did it say it made the two kingdom keys? I think this info should be removed as well...

Xabryn - I don't care if you're real!You're not better! TALK - It's nice to have darkness on my side.Xabryn 21:06, January 11, 2010 (UTC) i was think the same the information don't make sense since they find the keyblades before the keyblade appear so how could the keyblade make the other two? BTW nice talk bubble Saxisai

Saxisai Chat it up! — Do you remember "when the world was a simpler place?" — Saxisai 21:57, January 11, 2010 (UTC) Thanks Bryan lol (decoded your name)

"Χブレード, Kīburēdo"

NeutraVega Talk to me, you triple zero!. — "3, 22⁄7, 333⁄106, 355⁄113, 103993/33102...'." *Cue echo SFX* Shouldn't the article actually be titled "X-Keyblade" seeing as that's what the thing is actually called...?

Neumannz — Looks like I'm gonna have to jump...! TALK — I work alone! Except when I work with Xion...which is all the time. — 05:24, January 12, 2010 (UTC)   "ブレード" is "blade", isn't it? I mean, "キーブレード, Kīburēdo" is Keyblade

LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had? Neumannz is right, that's probably why someone thought the real name was "Chi-Blade". The name is literally X-Blade.

KrytenKoro - And when you see me standing there, you'll know you've got a friend with a rock, I mean a big-ass rock. TALK - The name is a pun. "X" is both the Greek letter "Chi", pronounced "Key", and the shape of the Keyblade itself. Its unique nature seems to make it serve as a proto-Keyblade, so it fits - it's the "Keyblade" that's not a Keyblade.

LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had? Ah, that explains why I was confused by the "Chi" part. I thought that was pronounced "kai". Interesting play on words.

X-Blade is X-Blade is X-Blade. X is Chi, and "kii" and "kai" are both correct pronunciations of "chi". There are some things even the stars cannot tell me. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 11:21, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Neumannz — Looks like I'm gonna have to jump...! TALK — I work alone! Except when I work with Xion...which is all the time. — 17:40, January 12, 2010 (UTC)   Five bucks says the English version will make it "kai".

I don't see why not. The pun will still be obvious enough.—Urutapu 19:58, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Question.

Wait. So is it true that when Aqua breaks it in half it makes the Sora's and Mickey's keyblades? Randomnessity Looks like you're prepared.

so the x blade is two keyblades --Sora 2 01:37, January 13, 2010 (UTC)joined in to one

It's two Keyblades, but no, it doesn't make Sora's and Mickey's Keyblades. Apparently Mickey got his hands on the Kingdom Key D before the X-Blade was destroyed. There are some things even the stars cannot tell me. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 01:54, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Neumannz — Looks like I'm gonna have to jump...! TALK — I work alone! Except when I work with Xion...which is all the time. — 02:02, January 13, 2010 (UTC)   ~_^ He did?! I don't think there was any indication that the Kingdom Keys came from the X-Blade being broken (though for all i know that might be true... He did, TNE?) Anyway, I don't think that line should be in the article if there's no substanciation

I think Kryten was the one who said that, though I'm not sure. But then again, for both sides of the story, we need sources... Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 02:04, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah. I don't think it really matters who put it there, if it doesn't have sources it shouldn't be there. Don't want to mislead the fans. Randomnessity Looks like you're prepared.

I am absolutely positive that Mickey did NOT get the Keyblade of the Realm of Darkness BEFORE the X-Blade was destroyed because finding said Keyblade was the entire reason he disappeared ten years later in the original game. Besides, it didn't look like the X-Blade split in half. It looked like it crumbled to pieces. Immblueversion 18:28, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

do you think that when Ventus defeated Vanitas, ventus absorbed him, then merged with sora? more to the point, do you think that in the future Sora could wield The X-Blade?! WarMonger89 12:03, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Nitrous X Talk! — Then I shall make you see...That your hopes are nothing. Nothing but a mere illusion! Don't I even warrant a hello, Lexaeus? It isn't Mickey's keyblade. Mickey fights with his keyblade against Ven-itas.

KrytenKoro - "Hey, I want to settle down. And as soon as I find the right small group of girls, the seven or eight women who are right for me, my wandering days are over, buddy." TALK - Mickey has two Keyblades - his original Star Seeker and any of its Keychains, and the Kingdom Key D, which he obtained right at the start of KH.

Nitrous X Talk! — Nice to see you, too, Vexen. It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. See my illusion! Seriously? Where did the Star Seeker go then?

Naruto195 —SOLDIER Second Class Zack on the job! TALK - "I was just getting warmed up! " — Naruto195 06:29, January 17, 2010 (UTC) Well if you think about it,Sora gets the Star Seeker after he gets his Valor form and new outfit. Maybe Mickey recived the key and left to find the person who could wield the OTHER half of it. As for Star Seeker,maybe he gave it back?

He couldn't have given it back, since he wields it in Coded, which takes place after KHII. There are some things even the stars cannot tell me. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 06:41, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Naruto195 —SOLDIER Second Class Zack on the job! TALK - "I was just getting warmed up! " — Naruto195 06:52, January 17, 2010 (UTC) True true. Not sure,this one seems to be as unexplained as what happeneds to Zack in Birth By Sleep.

Xiggie Buy / Sell — Welcome! What do you wanna do? Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— 13:17, January 17, 2010 (UTC) In one of the endings, we see Mickey returning the Star fragment and the Star Seeker to Yen Sid, and then he starts walking away, then Yen Sid is seen behind him and giving him back the Star Seeker. (6:13) I don't know what that really means... but I think that we do know that the Star Seeker is a rather special keyblade, I mean, it did appear in the BBS Opening... and then the keychain was formed from the pillars of the three princesses in the game... I wonder what that is supposed to symbolize... Oh, and about Zack, I am pretty sure that was killed by... Sephiroth! (4:36)

@Immblueversion: If the X-Blade didn't split in two after it was destroyed, then answer this: How did Sora obtain the original Kingdom Key in Riku's place in the first KH game and how did King Mickey obtained the Kingdom Key D at the end of the same game? Magic? Impossible?

So my only speculation is that the destroyed X-Blade split into Sora's original Kingdom Key and King Mickey's Kingdom Key D or they'll never wield them in the first place. Smackdown599 16:01, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

More Info

Isn't there more about X-Blade? I mean is there a history about the X-Blade or the connection to Ventus or Sora? --Cococrash11 06:05, January 20, 2010 (UTC)Cococrash11

Now wait a minute...

NeutraVega Talk to me, you triple zero!. — "3, 22⁄7, 333⁄106, 355⁄113, 103993/33102...'." *Cue echo SFX* What the hell is this nonsense regarding Ventus being CREATED from the X-Blade? >_> He was just an ordinary guy whom Xehanort picked up because of his purity and potential to wield the X-Blade.

Unlocking what?

Demonic Saint - Ah-hyuck! Did you happen to summon me? TALK - All for one and one for all. - 15:42, January 29, 2010 (UTC) The X-blade would unlock KH and that would make the worlds be taken by Darkness or it would unlock the DTD causing KH to be devoured by Darkness and then causing the other worlds to be devoured by Darkness?

...uh...I heard somewhere...mabey on the wiki...I dont know for sure though...so...if anything just count this as speculation, I heard it unlocks "the door to heaven" AKA door to light or kingdom hearts which would make sense on why people are fighting over it. � 75.162.72.60 02:16, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Door to heaven? I don't think so...Redeemer & Destroyer 02:19, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

The KH was on the sky not on the realm of darkness so i'm nor sure that it would open the DTD--Xabryn 02:25, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

yeah the door to heaven didnt sound right to me either. Ill find out where I found it, sorry. � 75.162.72.60 02:32, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

bottom of the page in triva I read it wrong though my mistake. http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/%CE%A7-Blade � 75.162.72.60 02:35, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

it was not talking abou the X-blade, it is talking about the two crossed keys meaning--Xabryn 02:38, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Demonic Saint - Then go talk to a wall... TALK - I dreamt I was a moron - 02:49, January 30, 2010 (UTC) Ok, that was lame.

"Citation needed:" The splitting of Ven's heart

There's that scene in Ven's story, the creation of Vanitas, along with the other scene, where Master Xehanort says that Ven is incomplete, and that he should seize his darkness once again ? Shouldn't that qualify for a citation, or must we get the precise sentences ? I wonder if anyone has access to the Master Xehanort Reports proper. Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 10:08, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

Keyblade of People's Hearts

I don't quite understand the Xehanort Reports 6 and 7, but I think they're saying that this is the same type of Keyblade as the "Dark Keyblade" in KH1. At the very least, Xehanort seems to clearly say that such a Keyblade is the only way to get to Kingdom Hearts.Glorious CHAOS! 05:00, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

I thought that too but but he says that for creat it is necessary the hearts of the 7 pricesses of heart but it could be just a mistranslation i think the better for us to do now is wait the english version to come out then we'll see--Xabryn 23:18, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Image

Vanitas's severed wrist looks pretty stupid. Would anybody object to just showing the rest of his arm?—Urutapu 07:37, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

changed something

I removed the thing that said that Final Form's X-shaped keyblade floating thing is a reference to the X-Blade because that's obviously way too far fetched to be true on account of the fact that the X-blade wasn't even invented yet.

Source please~

Can someone add a source to that Xemnas bit of trivia on this page? I'd like to see where it came from. Thanks! --LegoAlchemist 02:50, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

...again, that trivia bit looks like speculation. Can I please get a source? --LegoAlchemist 17:00, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

It's in the BBS Ultimania interviews. The "20 Mysteries", I believe.Glorious CHAOS! 20:53, July 7, 2010 (UTC)