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Night Falcon - A faithful replica until the very end TALK - That's good enough.
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Ok I'm here what now?
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Quotes Section
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Xiggie Buy / Sell — Welcome! What do you wanna do? Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— {{{time}}}
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Does anyone else agree that Repliku's quote section has gotten way out of hand! they're around 50 !!!
There is no need to quote almost every line she speaks!
I say we bring them down to, say, 20 tops!
anyone agree?
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Guardian Soul Talk. — Don't I even warrant a hello? It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - {{{time}}}
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Oh definitely. There's way too many quotes there.
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This is a recurrent problem for many characters, in fact. As I told Azul, we used to have a limit of 10 quotes or so, until some anonymous IP addresses came and broke the limit altogether.
How much should be the allowed number of quotes, anyway ?
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Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne
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Xiggie Buy / Sell — Welcome! What do you wanna do? Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— {{{time}}}
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I say that we keep 10, but if necessary, 15 tops!
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See User talk:Azul81677 - there's a section on quotes. Thus far, four people have agreed with 10 (and if we count you in, that's five).
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Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne
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Xiggie Buy / Sell — Welcome! What do you wanna do? Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— {{{time}}}
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will do :P
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Tragic Villain Question
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Flashpenny - You'll wear the face of despair. TALK - Where's the fun in this?
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I just put this down in the Trivia section and want to see if anyone approves. Does anyone else think that the Riku Replica is the only major antagonist in the trilogy (it's a trilogy until more games come out) who could be called a tragic villain.
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I do !
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I'm as good as new! All my functions have been restored! • TroisNyxÉtienne
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NinjaSheik - All of this might have started with a lie...But I'm really am glad that I could meet you... TALK - I'm so sorry...
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Yeah...I feel really sorry for Repliku...In the end of Sora's story...He was actually kind...Poor thing...
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Flashpenny - You'll wear the face of despair. TALK - Where's the fun in this?
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Alright then, it stays.
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Honestly, he seems more like an anti-hero. Veroso 16:55 29 May, 2009
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KrytenKoro - Click TALK -
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He has a really weird situation. He's not really an antagonist, because it's actually Sora that's interfering with him and making a mess of things, it's just that we see it from Sora's point of view. Replica Riku was pretty much content to just sit there protecting Namine.
'course, he had a different personality when he was first created, but I honestly can't decipher what he was actually trying to do besides test himself against Riku that one time.
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Flashpenny - You'll wear the face of despair. TALK - Where's the fun in this?
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Generally a tragic villain is an antagonist you feel sorry for. This guy tried to kill Sora, Marluxia and Riku (and actually killed Zexion) because of the same reason, he wanted to become his own self. Besides an anti-hero is generally someone who is doing heroic things but for selfish methods. The only time that could be true is just before the fight with Marluxia and even then it's debatable (he was protecting Namine at the time). Let's just keep it until we can clear this up.
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KrytenKoro - "It's always best when the other chap is willing to die for his beliefs; you both have the same goal in mind." TALK -
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He's not a villain, though. To be a villain, you have to be actively trying to commit evil; Riku Replica only reacted against Sora's incursions. He tested himself against Riku once, but once his memories were modified, all he wanted to do was protect Namine. It was Sora who kept on making a mess of that, and starting the fights. As for trying to kill Marluxia and Zexion, so? So did Riku and Sora, who are clearly the protagonist heroes of the game.
I think we could call him an anti- or tragic hero, but he's definitely not a tragic villain.
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- The thing is, no matter what, he's not on Sora's side. I think we should use the term "antagonist" since it's technically morally neutral while at the same time opposing the protagonist (Sora).—Urutapu 20:01, 30 May 2009 (UTC)