September 2009

Crazy idea given by HeartofOblivion (2009.09.16)

Okay, sort of a quiz on which WikiFauna one would be...

1. Are you okay with anonymous IPs making constructive edits onto pages?

Yes
I'm annoyed

2. Do you welcome new users?

Yes
Only if I have the time
No

3. If anyone asks you for help, you...

Gladly help them
Say that you'd like to, but you don't have the time
Snap at them

4. What is your most edited domain?

Main
User
Template
Category
MediaWiki
Kingdom Hearts Wiki

5. You have a penchant for...

thinking fast.
proper grammar.
proper colour combinations.
translating Japanese into English.
searching for pictures.
making Category Trees.
socialising!!
two or more of the above.
all of the above.

6. Do you love making your own userboxes?

Yes
I'd love to, but I don't know how to make one
No

7. While editing...

you ask for others' opinions before putting the information in question into the article
you don't ask for opinions, but cite a source
you just put it right into the article!

8. How are you towards other users?

Mild-mannered
Can be a bit snappy if I don't have enough food/you get the point.
Downright rude
I don't *bleep* care if people don't speak 1337, I'm gonna use it!

9. You are...

an introvert
an extrovert

10. Which of these animals/creatures appeals to you?

Fish
Otter
Sloth
Octopus
Jaguar
Cat
Dragon
Mercenary
Knight
Gremlin
Imp
Giant
Troll
Goon
Princess
Ogre
Gnome
Fairy
Zombie

11. Your goal on the wiki is...

to make constructive edits based on the sources I have
to obtain adminship
to help others in the editing process
to spoil the work that has already been started
to make theories and counter them
to socialise!

You know, I seriously think we need 19 responses per question, to comply with the 19 types of WikiFauna available, so we can easily choose which one the user corresponds to.

Different Fauna

I found out that there are 25 types of Fauna on the regular Wiki.

WikiElf
WikiFairy
WikiGnome
WikiOgre
WikiTroll
WikiCat
WikiDragon
WikiFallen
WikiGiant
WikiGoon
WikiGremlin
WikiGryphon
WikiImp
WikiJaguar
WikiKnight
WikiKraken
WikiMercenary
WikiMinnow
WikiOtter
WikiPrincess
WikiSloth
WikiTrout
WikiVampire
WikiWizard
WikiZombie

- HeartOfOblivion 03:54, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Whoa ! So wait a minute : can you pass me the link to each ? So that I can see what types of personalities they have ? TNÉ _{En avant Bravo !} 04:00, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Here is one page and then all the others are in a navigation box at the bottom. [1] - HeartOfOblivion 04:10, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

OMG. Now here's to thinking what characters should be placed into the userboxes. TNÉ _{En avant Bravo !} 04:14, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Hello there, mind if I barge in :P I happen to have a Quizilla account, and I'd love to try to make this WikiFauna test for you :D I think that we should set it up as 24 questions, with (at least) 10 answer possibilities, defining the answer. Each question would be about a single WikiThingy's specialty, like How do you treat newbies? (the best answer would be for WikiOtters, while the worst would probably be for the WikiVampires). Get it? could we do this? - Ice boy^Svalur! 14:34, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Sweet! But for 25 WikiFauna possibilities, what should we do? TNÉ _{En avant Bravo !} 14:36, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

This has been awhile but I agree. I don't think we should have a question like #10 up above. I always hate that when I take a quiz and I feel like I know what I'm going to get as a result because of questions like those. It should be about the person's personality and editing style. - HeartOfOblivion 05:00, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Possible Image Choices

~~WikiGryphon: Wyvern?~~
WikiFallen: Wight Knight
~~WikiMinnow: Flounder and make WikiTrout an Aquatank?~~
~~WikiVampire: Sora's Vampire form~~
~~WikiWizard: Yen Sid or Merlin~~
WikiElf: Santa Elves from Christmas Town
~~WikiFairy: Tinkerbell~~ We already had it just wasn't on the Userbox page.

Another problem: categorisation. See Category talk:Users by WikiFauna. TNÉ _{En avant Bravo !} 04:26, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Well, we'll have to wait for an admin to help because we can't move categories and it would take awhile to go through all of them and then have to delete them. - HeartOfOblivion 04:29, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

They have the Move button. We normal users used to have it but when Wikia changed its policies here and there, they decreed that we can't have the move button. See how much trouble it creates for us. I used to be able to move articles at my own will. Now I can't. TNÉ _{En avant Bravo !} 04:32, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

EDIT: We do have the Move button, but not for Categories. Damn. TNÉ _{En avant Bravo !} 04:34, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Or files. I'd love to stay up and help but I have classes tomorrow. So night! - HeartOfOblivion 04:35, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

G'night then. See ya soon. TNÉ _{En avant Bravo !} 04:43, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Once again, sorry this has been so long. Did we ever fix this problem? If not, I shall ping an admin. - HeartOfOblivion 05:00, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

May 2010

Screen project

To get :

Roxas's Struggle, HD.

Anything else in HD is greatly appreciated ! TROISNYX AM D G 08:54, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

June 2010

Deflect statistics - KH1 : List

R&D, Xion4ever and I are currently working on this project together. I'm specifically handling FM Heartless, if there ever is a way to deflect them. If you'd like to join us, please help out ! TROISNYX AM D G Sulu mata engkudu ! 00:45, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

NOTE : The reason why experience varies in the Beginner Mode is because of an EXP-enhancing ability, Tech Up, which Sora has by default from the Awakening. After Level 11, EXP just goes up. Without Tech Up, the Tech Points received will be the same as in Kingdom Hearts. Consider that towards the end, I have had at least three Tech Ups equipped. I must replay these files and see what happens when only one, or two Tech Ups are equipped.

The stats I put in for FM Heartless before Kairi's rescue use one Tech Up.

Name	KH Deflect EXP (Before Kairi)	KH Deflect EXP (After Kairi)	FM Deflect EXP (Before Kairi)	FM Deflect EXP (After Kairi)	Card number used (REC)
Tidus		N/A	Before Level 11 : 2 After Level 11 (Beginner), 14 (Standard) (1 Tech Up) : 4	N/A	N/A
Riku		N/A	Destiny Islands : 1 for deflection of thrust attack	N/A	N/A (playable)
Wakka		N/A	Before Level 11 : 1 for normal deflection 2 for midair deflection After Level 11 : (After Level 11 (Beginner), 14 (Standard) (1 Tech Up) : ) 2 for normal deflection 4 for midair deflection	N/A	N/A
Selphie		N/A	1 for deflection 1 if jump rope hits Selphie's head (After Level 11 (Beginner), 14 (Standard) (1 Tech Up) :) 2 for deflection 1 if jump rope hits Selphie's head	N/A	N/A
Air Soldier	1	27	2	135
Large Body	2 for deflecting running charge attack 1 for deflecting arm swipe attack.	72 for deflecting a belly bounce. 24 for deflecting a slap.	2 for deflecting running charge attack 2 for deflecting slap 2 for deflecting when it throws itself onto Sora
Shadow		Deflectable, but no Tech Points received	Deflectable, but no Tech Points received	Deflectable, but no Tech Points received
Soldier	1 for deflecting kick	9 for deflecting slap.	2
Defender	13 for blocking shield thrust	12 for deflecting the Fire attack 25 if it hits the shield	48 for deflecting the Fire attack 13 if it hits the shield	180 for deflecting the Fire attack 19 if it hits the shield
Powerwild	1 (all attacks)	9 (all attacks)	2 (all attacks)	30 (all attacks)
Bouncywild			2 for deflecting slingshot attack		1, 2, 4
Red Nocturne	1 for deflection 2 if it hits Red Nocturne	12 for deflection 9 for using Blizzard	2 for deflection 2 if fireball hits Red Nocturne 2 for using Blizzard 2 for using Gravity		1, 2, 4
Blue Rhapsody	2 for using Fire	12 for deflection 9 for using Fire	2 for deflection 2 for using Fire		1, 2, 4
Yellow Opera	1 for deflection	12 for deflection 9 for using Gravity	2 for deflection 2 for using Gravity		1, 2, 4
Green Requiem		9 for using Gravity	2 for using Gravity		1
Search Ghost	36 for deflecting normal attacks	35	2 for deflecting normal attacks 2 for defeating it when it is oversouled 4 for deflecting it when it is about to use Drain	120 for deflecting normal attacks 13 for defeating it when it is oversouled
Gargoyle	6 for deflecting energy ball;	36 for deflecting a energy ball 12 for deflecting a tackle			4
Darkside	Destiny Islands : Deflection of energy attack : 1 Energy attack hitting the Darkside : 2 Hitting the head instead of the wrist : Every third hit landed will give you 2 Tech Points if it is a ground combo. Air combos take longer.	Deflection of energy attack : 39 Energy attack hitting the Darkside : 82 Hitting the head instead of the wrist : 82	Awakening : Hitting the head instead of the wrist : Every third hit landed will give you 2 Tech Points. Destiny Islands : Deflection of energy attack : 2 Energy attack hitting the Darkside : 2 Hitting the head instead of the wrist : Every third hit landed will give you 2 Tech Points.
Fat Bandit	6 for blocking a hand swinging attack 4 for preventing fire projectile attack.	72 for blocking an attack 24 for fireballs being hit back at the Fat Bandit	4 for blocking a hand swinging attack 4 for hitting the Fat Bandit with a finisher before it casts a stream of Fire 8 for guarding fire projectile attack 2 if the fire projectile is deflected at the Fat Bandit, throwing it backwards	90 for blocking an attack
Hercules		19 for blocking headblock attack			N/A
Black Fungus					7
White Mushroom		1 for casting the right spell 10 if the same spell is cast thrice		1 for casting the right spell 10 if the same spell is cast thrice In Atlantica, since all of the White Mushrooms need Stop cast on them, the first one gives 3 EXP, the second gives 2 and the last one gives 1. After that they call the Pink Agaricus.	N/A
Pot Scorpion	N/A	N/A		360 for deflecting its sting attack 240 for deflecting its pincers	N/A
Pot Spider	1 for guarding an attack	6 for guarding an attack 15 for guarding an air attack	2 for guarding an attack 4 for guarding an air attack	45 for guarding an attack	N/A
Barrel Spider					4
Wizard		"Tech 45" and "Tech 16" both show up when you hit a Wizard while it is casting Fire and/or Blizzard, so I am taking this to be 61 EXP. Unless the 45 refers to the experience.		16 for hitting it when it is about to cast Fire and/or Blizzard
Ice Titan	N/A	24	N/A	120	N/A
Red Armor	1 each for blocking Gauntlets, Hammerlegs, Torso attacks	9 each for blocking Gauntlets, Hammerlegs, Torso attacks			N/A
Bandit	2	27	2 for almost all attacks 4 for blocking it while it hurls the scimitar at Sora	45 for blocking a normal scimitar attack 90 for blocking the "scimitar dance" 135 for blocking whilst it is guarding (or is it while it is preparing to hurl the scimitar at Sora ?)
Air Pirate		13
Leon		Coliseum : 15 for deflection 2 if fire ball hits Leon	Traverse Town : 2 for deflection 2 for deflecting fireball 1 if fireball hits Leon Coliseum : Pegasus Cup : 14 for deflection (fireball and sword) 1 if fireball hits Leon 5 if Lionheart is successfully deflected and changes back into the normal sword		Variable
Yuffie		11 for deflection 7 if shuriken hit Yuffie	Pegasus Cup : 14 for deflection 4 if shuriken hits Yuffie and stuns her		N/A
Wight Knight	6 for deflecting arm spin attack	27
Cloud	9 for deflecting a normal sword swipe	19 for blocking a normal sword swipe. 11 for blocking Sonic Blade attack twice.	Preliminaries : 2 for blocking a normal sword swipe
Pirate	2 for deflecting any sword attack	9		45
Battleship	25 for removing sail; 10 per removing a side cannon		10 for taking out the mast 24 for taking out the turret 10 if homing missiles hit the body of the ship, rather than Sora	60 for taking out the mast 24 for taking out the turret	N/A
Gigas Shadow	N/A	N/A		50 for deflection 10 for the first one, 20 for the second one --> 60 for the last one	N/A
Darkball	3 for deflecting "charging chomp" attack	6		90 for deflecting the "charging chomp" attack
Guard Armor		9 for every attack	First battle : 4 for blocking any body part
Opposite Armor	7 for blocking charge attack	11 for deflectin the tackle and hand spin 30 for deflecting a head spin	6 for blocking charge attack 6 for blocking "Hammerlegs" 14 for blocking "Gauntlets"		N/A
Cerberus			6 points for deflection		N/A
Pot Centipede	2 for blocking antennae attack 1 for knocking out/preventing Pot Spider to join Pot Centipede body 4 for deflecting head ram	N/A	4 for blocking antennae attack (if I'm not mistaken) 8 for deflecting head ram (Beginner) 14 for deflecting head ram (Standard) 8 for deflecting pincer attack	N/A	N/A
Cave of Wonders Guardian	8 for blocking eye lasers.	N/A	8 for blocking eye lasers (Beginner) 4 for blocking eye lasers (Standard) 4 if they hit the Guardian's head	N/A	N/A
Sea Neon			4	150
Ansem	N/A	For deflecting the energy disks: 99 (1st and 2nd battle) For guarding the aerial tackle: 199 (2nd battle only)	N/A
Parasite Cage			First fight : 6 for blocking Left Tentacle/Right Tentacle Second fight : 12 for blocking Left Tentacle/Right Tentacle When he swings his left and right tentacles, it's deflectable, but no Tech Points are earned.
Artillery (World of Chaos)	N/A	1 point for delfecting the small blue shots	N/A		N/A
Sora's Shadow	12 for blocking downward kick	N/A
AntiSora	39 for blocking a Keyblade strike	N/A
Dragon Maleficent	119 deflect fireballs	N/A
Captain Hook	67 for blocking sword swipe	N/A
Riku 1 (Sword; Hollow Bastion)	4 for blocking regular sword strike	N/A
Riku 2 (Keyblade; Hollow Bastion)	39 for deflecting Strike Raid; 17 for blocking Keyblade strike	N/A

Leon - 15 EXP is earned when you block an attack. If you deflect the fire ball back at him, you recieve an extra 2 EXP
- When you deflect his Lionheart (the blue sword) while he walks at you, you gain _____ EXP.

Discussion

For the Powerwild I'm getting 9 EXP for both inside and outside Deep Jungle..difference between KH and KHFM?--Xion4 ever 01:52, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

When I was doing that, I was playing KH, not KHFM.... Weird ! Unless it's a different attack. Was it the slide attack or the claw ? TROISNYX

AM D G 01:21, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

I do believe it was the claws..I might be mistaken. Hang on, I'll check again..

Okay, weird... I'd better check Deep Jungle again. In the meantime, mark it as 9 EXP for all places. TROISNYX

AM D G 02:33, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

EDIT: Both the slide and claw attacks give you 9 EXP.--Xion4 ever 02:11, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, weird... I'd better check Deep Jungle again. In the meantime, mark it as 9 EXP for all places.

EDIT 12:00, June 11, 2010 (UTC) : For all these stats, are those after Kairi's rescue ?TROISNYX AM D G

Yes, after Kairi's rescue...that's probably why. All the ones I've added have been from Kairi's rescue. Think we should put something like (AKR) to show the stats are after Kairi is rescued? Also, I have another save file that is before her rescue, I'll start getting some stats from it.--Xion4 ever 15:16, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know if it's the same before and after the rescue but the Bandit tech ponts after the recue are also 27. User:Redeemer & Destroyer/Sig

I'll check the before rescue part here directly (I'm about to start Agrabah in the save file). Anyways, I've added Redeemer's information under the appropriate section.--Xion4 ever 19:33, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Ok... The World of Chaos itself does not provide tech points. The Artillery does and the heartless you fight during teh battle does too. But I'm not sure. Maybe someone should double check. I find it hard to deflect while flying.User:Redeemer & Destroyer/Sig

I know ; deflection doesn't usually happen while flying. Even harder to trigger in FM. And I also think I should restart FM in normal or Proud Mode (I'm playing in Beginner, and I'm advancing too fast). TROISNYX

AM D G 00:48, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

I apologize for not adding to the project as of late. However, I will pick up in Agrabah and add everything I get the next time I am on. Sorry for the delay.-Xion4ever

Thanks a lot. ^_^ I'm counting on you. In the event that I have to go on WB or worse (Let's pray the worst doesn't happen !!), do ask ShardofTruth to help out, because he has KHFM. TROISNYX AM D G 13:45, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

MA Template

Almost everyone and anyone gets into the MA warning templates - though this is only but a suggestion. I will only put it up when everyone says yes.

First Warning

Return my friend's heart or pay the price!
	This is a warning for not adhering to the rules of the Mirage Arena. Your edits have been reverted; please do not attempt to repeat them. This is a Mirage Arena warning, and is separate from warnings accumulated in the mainspace of the Kingdom Hearts Wiki, thus not counting towards a block or ban, but counting towards the revoking of voting privileges.

Now I need ideas for Warning 2, Warning 3... I'll attempt Permanent Loss of Privileges. :P Though this one risks being hard because I can't get to align the text to the centre. If all else fails I'll take a cue from KHFR...

Permanent loss of privileges

The privileges you know will be gone forever.
	For inadherence to the rules of the Mirage Arena, your voting privileges have been irretrievably revoked.

Main Page

The things that I shall copy and paste here are things which I found fascinating from other wikis — I'm not going to copy them outright, but I must see if there's anything that needs to be tweaked first before I go any further.

Things I've liked

http://www.wikirby.info/wiki/Template:Lineup
The header for WiKirby.
- My idea is that we can lower the main page a bit, and have the header base itself off the BBSFM wallpaper, and then we change the background colour to a solid colour based on the BG. Search bar will be in the middle, but I only know this much.

To do

Learn up Greasemonkey.
Pay attention to Forum:Aesthetics.
Take a look at [2].
- Pay attention to Rounded Blue Edition. The header can definitely be modified, and the search bar looks as if it's in the right place. Now all we need is to change the design of the buttons which say "Discussion", "Edit" etc.
- Okay, so I've downloaded the PSD files for Rounded Blue Edition — now to get to the code.

EDIT 05:26, 12 February 2011 (EST) : Can someone help me at least find the code, please ?

Modify MediaWiki:Monobook.css. NO WAIT IT'S [3]
- This is to enable even our templates to use BGs.
How do we EVEN modify Monobook.css ?!

OUCH. [4]

For Common.css

To be modified

/* CSS placed here will be applied to all skins */

.daysstrip{ background-color:#FFDEAD; background-image:url(/images/3/3f/WKfelt.png); }

.bbsstrip{ background-color:#90EE90; background-image:url(/images/0/0e/BGStars.png); }

Specs

Header : 2000 x 750
- The skin from which I'm copying the layout has two PSD files, one 2000 x 250 and one 2000 x 500.

Input

File:Header prototype.png

Please see this in full. The rest of the wiki will have a BG colour similar to the bottom of this image — dark blue, that is.

File:Logotest1.png

Please test it against the dark BG.

Layout

Open for editing ! Here, you decide where the boxes on the main page should go, and how they should go. If you're okay with the current layout, tell me at the bottom of the second line — be sure to sign with the four tildes (no templates for obvious reasons).

~~I'll also need someone to help me tile the wiki background like, say, 15 x 5 (considering each tile is a square).~~ Never mind — this was for the header, and I thought I'd make it look almost exactly like the BBSFM wallpaper, but now less is more... I guess.

I could possibly help with the tile background, but I'd need directions for it first. Erry 14:02, 12 February 2011 (EST)

03:45, 20 February 2011 (EST) - The skin is up! I have made some heavy adjustments here (to see them, copy the contents of that page, change your skin to Roundedblue in preferences, and paste the coding from my page into yours - User:<yourusernamehere>/roundedblue.css. Then save, and clear your cache. Please do this.), and we've got a couple of things left to do before the skin is done... (Taken from IRC)

[08:30:01] <LegoAlchemist> I see it!
[08:30:03] <Auror> I DONAT SEE ANYTHING.
[08:30:04] <SilverCrono> Lego dun did it.
[08:30:06] <SilverCrono> Lego lieky?
[08:30:14] <LegoAlchemist> Whoa, that's actually sort of badass.
[08:30:15] <SilverCrono> Auror: WHAT BROWSER DO YOU USE
[08:30:16] <LegoAlchemist> But.
[08:30:18] <SilverCrono> Thankies, Lego.
[08:30:23] <SilverCrono> But there are a few problems.
[08:30:24] <Auror> FIREFOX GODDAMIT
[08:30:30] <SilverCrono> Like I don't know how to make the logo(s) right.
[08:30:38] <LegoAlchemist> The header pic.
[08:30:43] <SilverCrono> Auror: Hold Ctrl+F5
[08:30:45] <maggosh> Fine, fine, I'll look at your damn ...
[08:30:48] <SilverCrono> Lego, Jyes?
[08:30:51] <LegoAlchemist> It contrasts horribly with the logo.
[08:30:58] <SilverCrono> Yeah, I know
[08:31:01] <LegoAlchemist> IMPO, it should be put on the right, not the left.
[08:31:06] <SilverCrono> Tried to fix that
[08:31:08] <SilverCrono> Epic fail'd
[08:31:10] <LegoAlchemist> Second:
[08:31:18] <SilverCrono> So I ping'd Trois about it, so she could do that
[08:31:23] <LegoAlchemist> Just flip the image around.
[08:31:25] <SilverCrono> And I don't know how to fix the sidebars
[08:31:26] <LegoAlchemist> I can do that.
[08:31:28] <LegoAlchemist> Piece of cake.
[08:31:28] <SilverCrono> LegoAlchemist: I TRIED THAT
[08:31:30] <LegoAlchemist> Second:
[08:31:31] <SilverCrono> AND TRUST ME
[08:31:33] <SilverCrono> IT FAILED
[08:31:35] <LegoAlchemist> Fool!
[08:31:35] <Auror> it does not work.
[08:31:36] <Auror> ;(
[08:31:38] <SilverCrono> Crono no is dumb.
[08:31:40] <LegoAlchemist> Second:
[08:31:47] <SilverCrono> Auror: Don't know what to say, then. Restart browser?
[08:31:49] <LegoAlchemist> The "Search This Site" words are garbled.
[08:31:52] <SilverCrono> Jyes.
[08:31:53] <SilverCrono> I know.
[08:31:56] <SilverCrono> Tried to fix that too.
[08:32:00] <LegoAlchemist> That isn't REALLY a problem, but it looks weird.
[08:32:12] <SilverCrono> See, the main problem is actually two problems.
[08:32:14] <LegoAlchemist> Third:
[08:32:19] <LegoAlchemist> THe boxes are square.
[08:32:23] <LegoAlchemist> This is ROUNDED blue.
[08:32:23] <maggosh> Good night.
[08:32:27] <LegoAlchemist> Not square blue.
[08:32:30] <LegoAlchemist> Night!
[08:32:31] <SilverCrono> 1) Rounded Blue isn't an official skin, thus, Wikia doesn't have manuals for installation.
[08:32:53] <SilverCrono> 2) None of the NEIWA wikis have MediaWiki:Roundedblue.css pages, so I don't know how they tweaked theirs.
[08:32:59] <SilverCrono> LegoAlchemist: [08:31:25] <SilverCrono> And I don't know how to fix the sidebars
[08:33:01] <SilverCrono> READ
[08:33:08] <SilverCrono> I already know about the sidebars
[08:33:13] <SilverCrono> But I don't know how to fix them
[08:33:14] <LegoAlchemist> Holy shit.
[08:33:17] <LegoAlchemist> You have to chill.
[08:33:24] <SilverCrono> facepalm.png
[08:33:31] <LegoAlchemist> ^that
[08:33:33] maggosh shoves a sucker in Crono's mouth
[08:33:37] <maggosh> GOOD NIGHT.
[08:33:38] <SilverCrono> That's why I asked for help at Forum:Aesthetics.
[08:33:38] <LegoAlchemist> This isn't srz bzns
[08:33:42] <Auror> AKD;FKD;FDKF
[08:33:44] <Auror> I SEE IT!
[08:33:51] maggosh [461f4cc5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.31.76.197] has quit IRC: Quit: Page closed
[08:33:52] <SilverCrono> I'm a handsome, magnificent genius, but I can't do this alone.
[08:33:55] <SilverCrono> Eh? Auror lieky?
[08:34:13] <Auror> The original looked better. >>
[08:34:16] <LegoAlchemist> Why why why.
[08:34:17] <SilverCrono> :(
[08:34:19] <LegoAlchemist> I have no clue.
[08:34:24] <LegoAlchemist> I just don't get you at all.
[08:34:29] <SilverCrono> Who, me? Or Auror?
[08:34:39] <LegoAlchemist> *movie ends*
[08:34:41] <SilverCrono> ._.
[08:34:45] <LegoAlchemist> CLIFFY!
[08:34:47] <SilverCrono> oloswut
[08:35:00] <LegoAlchemist> Question.
[08:35:03] <Auror> It needs some work..
[08:35:13] <LegoAlchemist> What, in the coding, is the image name for the header?
[08:35:17] <SilverCrono> Auror: Like what, please.
[08:35:21] <SilverCrono> Not to be offensive.
[08:35:25] <Auror> Kudos to you though, SilverCrono, I could never do anything as close as that.
[08:35:28] <SilverCrono> But I could use some honest critism.
[08:35:32] <LegoAlchemist> Is it "Logotest1.png" ?
[08:35:33] <SilverCrono> So I can improve.
[08:35:35] <SilverCrono> Thanks :)
[08:35:43] <Auror> Well, for one.
[08:35:47] <SilverCrono> LegoAlchemist: No, that's the yellow logo behind the BBS Wiki logo
[08:35:59] <SilverCrono> I couldn't get the BBS logo to disappear and the yellow one to take it's place
[08:36:02] <SilverCrono> the header is...
[08:36:05] <Auror> The light sky blue crypt is conflicting wtih the dark blue background.
[08:36:08] <LegoAlchemist> Well, what is it then?
[08:36:16] <SilverCrono> http://khwiki.net/images/3/3b/Header_prototype.png
[08:36:27] <SilverCrono> Auror: Crypt?
[08:36:33] <SilverCrono> wtf is dat?
[08:36:43] <Auror> The big letters at the top, that says, "SEARCH THIS SITE" barely appear at all.
[08:36:57] <LegoAlchemist> Leave it, Crono.
[08:37:00] <LegoAlchemist> Don't get angry.
[08:37:00] <SilverCrono> [08:31:49] <LegoAlchemist> The "Search This Site" words are garbled.
[08:37:00] <SilverCrono> [08:31:52] <SilverCrono> Jyes.
[08:37:00] <SilverCrono> [08:31:53] <SilverCrono> I know.
[08:37:00] <SilverCrono> [08:31:56] <SilverCrono> Tried to fix that too.
[08:37:02] <LegoAlchemist> Irritated.
[08:37:04] <Auror> The logo is covering up Terra's chest, and most of his face.
[08:37:04] <LegoAlchemist> We all know.
[08:37:06] <SilverCrono> LegoAlchemist: What?
[08:37:17] <SilverCrono> Auror: Please scroll up.
[08:37:23] <SilverCrono> And please only state problems Lego didn't state before.
[08:37:25] <SilverCrono> >.>
[08:37:38] <Auror> Did he state the sidebars?
[08:37:40] <SilverCrono> Also, please, guys - http://www.khwiki.net/Forum:Aesthetics
[08:37:44] <SilverCrono> Post your concerns here
[08:37:48] <SilverCrono> Auror: Yes
[08:38:03] <Auror> Oh, than I have no other concerns to mention.
[08:38:11] <SilverCrono> kk
[08:38:14] <Auror> Other than that, it's fricken awesome.

kk? --Ag (Silver) - 47 107.8682 amu ~Crono 03:45, 20 February 2011 (EST)

The site notice... looks a little awkward. Could the background color be changed or made transparent? KRCCFNF is tired of being STEPPED ON. 16:54, 20 February 2011 (EST)

2011

June 2011

List of franchises and single games for SEIWA

See also:

Forum:About the SEIWA — what do we tell people?

So we know the wikis to contact. Their status with SEIWA as well as their wiki status may be noted at the side of each name. This list also includes games once made by Squaresoft, Enix, Taito and Eidos, as the four former entities now belong to Square Enix.

Links are provided for ease of contacting them, whether they are independent or otherwise. What matters more is the spirit of getting wikis into SEIWA. If contact fails, SEIWA shall have its doors open to them nonetheless, in the even they wish to join us.

As SEIWA only has us at this point, a forum is highly necessary, since we are the only people interested wikis can contact. It may be under The World That Never Was. But 17master suggests this, and I concur — it'll make it easier for interested parties to see previous discussions. Also, it'll make things a lot easier when I announce it on KHW's Twitter.

Bust-A-Move (Taito has been taken over by SE)
Chrono Trigger & Chrono Cross (Chronopedia has expressed interest in joining SEIWA.)
Cooking Mama (Taito has been taken over by SE)
Drakengard
- Nier
Dragon Quest (Dragon Quest Wiki has expressed interest in joining SEIWA.)
Deus Ex
Final Fantasy (FFW has opted not to join)
- Final Fantasy XI has a separate encyclopedia.
Front Mission
Fullmetal Alchemist
Hanjuku Hero
Hitman
Infinite Undiscovery
Itadaki Street
Kane & Lynch (Eidos has been taken over by SE)
Kingdom Hearts (That's us!)
The Mana series (Seiken Densetsu)
MindJack
Musashi
Parasite Eve & The 3rd Birthday
Rainbow Monkeys
Space Invaders (Taito has been taken over by SE)
Star Ocean
Tomb Raider (Eidos has been taken over by SE. WikiRaider has expressed interest in joining SEIWA.)
Valkyrie
The World Ends With You

Also contact:

Square Wiki
info@finalfantasy-wiki.de (/!\ IMPORTANT)

Archive

20.06.2011

Part 1

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Topic SQUARE ENIX INDEPENDENT WIKI ALLIANCE
#SEIWA
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troisnyxetienne So, as we were saying...
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troisnyxetienne Three candidates for Seiwa — Chronopedia,
ShirubaKurono Yep.
ShirubaKurono 3 candidates.
troisnyxetienne WikiRaider and Dragon Quest Wiki.
ShirubaKurono So far, DTN has a draft of the About page.
troisnyxetienne Okay.
ShirubaKurono which I probably shouldn't leak but will anyway~
troisnyxetienne Go right ahead.
ShirubaKurono Let me just consult my logs...
ShirubaKurono http://freetexthost.com/1qgyrd3aiu
ShirubaKurono And we've got some rules established, but Prodi hasn't gotten them down yet.
troisnyxetienne Okay.
troisnyxetienne *reads*
troisnyxetienne Good.
Organization13 So is FFWiki joining since its still a wikia?
troisnyxetienne I support this wholeheartedly, though I only don't want it to be seen as an attack towards Wikia.
troisnyxetienne OXIII: Not that we know yet.
ShirubaKurono Right, right, I said that too, TNE.
troisnyxetienne Some of FFW's admins have been hostile to the idea, but some have supported.
troisnyxetienne So we'll give them time, I suppose.
ShirubaKurono No, I'm 99.9% sure FFWiki is not moving.
troisnyxetienne Oh?
troisnyxetienne How come?
ShirubaKurono Whether or not they join SEIWA is unknown now, but them being at Wikia and joining an "independent wiki
alliance" sounds kind of redundant.
ShirubaKurono Well, the community have generally been against it. And the admins consider the matter closed.
troisnyxetienne Okay.
troisnyxetienne Well, we'll just keep our doors open to them if they want to cross over.
ShirubaKurono k.
troisnyxetienne As for KHFR, I suppose they'll need time — at least a year or two — before they even consider moving.
Organization13 How come?
the17master Wait, if FFWiki took part in making the alliance why won't they join?
troisnyxetienne I discussed with Unbirth and he said no; I discussed with the other admin, he seemed okay to the idea
but we ultimately decided we wouldn't move yet because our articles are far from complete, and getting an audit...
troisnyxetienne will be even more troublesome at this point.
troisnyxetienne And we took six months to complete our audit.
troisnyxetienne We don't know how long KHFR will take.
the17master And seeing Tomb Raider isn't related to SE, will we accept other wikis that are not related to SE?
troisnyxetienne Tomb Raider IS related to SE.
troisnyxetienne Eidos has been taken over by SE, thus making Tomb Raider part of the SE franchise.
the17master Oh.... I didn't know that
troisnyxetienne Look at this:
troisnyxetienne http://www.wikiraider.com/index.php/Eidos_Interactive
troisnyxetienne That already speaks volumes.
the17master Okay, sorry about that.
the17master Oh, about the rules, who will make them?
troisnyxetienne Not sure...
troisnyxetienne Should we have a separate discussion about them?
the17master Wait, I mean requirements
Sove ._.
troisnyxetienne Does that make any difference..
troisnyxetienne All we know for now is that the wiki has to be at least 75% related to an SE franchise.
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troisnyxetienne And for this reason, Super Mario Wiki, however much it did get input from SE for at least two of its
games, won't work.
troisnyxetienne The franchise has to be one which has been done by SE or a subdivision of SE.
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The17master_ Sorry about that.
Organization13 Might help a bit:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Square_Enix_games
The17master_ Wait, what?! SE took part in making Persona 4?!
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troisnyxetienne Yes.
Pea14733 Mario Hoops 3-on-3 is SE's
troisnyxetienne Yes, but that doesn't make Super Mario Wiki qualify.
troisnyxetienne You see:
The17master_ No wonder it was so awesome...
troisnyxetienne The franchise has to be MAINLY done by SE or a subdivision of SE.
troisnyxetienne Super Mario Wiki would properly fit under NIWA, and not SEIWA.
The17master_ What about Full Metal Alchemist?
The17master_ It was released by SE
troisnyxetienne That would fall under SE.
troisnyxetienne Because it was originally done by Enix, and now SE.
Pea14733 Well, they even include White Mage Black Mage and Ninja as secret character.
The17master_ I'm guessing Persona doesn't count, huh?
Sove FMA goes to SEIWA
troisnyxetienne 17m: Who is Persona's main developer?
The17master_ Atlus
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troisnyxetienne Atlus....
troisnyxetienne No link with SE.
troisnyxetienne So it doesn't count...
The17master Right, it was only 1 game too.
The17master What about Call of Duty?
troisnyxetienne Call of Duty's main developer is...?
The17master SE took part in the development of Modern Warfare, Modern Warfare 2, and Black Ops
Sove But no other link
Sove Doesn't count
The17master Actually.. it's multiple
troisnyxetienne Well.....
troisnyxetienne Let me see...
Sove And I definitely don't want CoD infection to SEIWA
The17master Black Ops is Treyarch, and MWs is Infinity Ward
The17master Right... fanboys
troisnyxetienne Well....
troisnyxetienne Three installations out of more than ten.
Organization13 An army of fanboys...
troisnyxetienne Doesn't count.
Organization13 shudders
The17master stares at ShirubaKurono
ShirubaKurono huhwut?
troisnyxetienne FMA, KH, FF, DragonQuest, Tomb Raider, Hanjuku Hero...
troisnyxetienne Front Mission,
ShirubaKurono We're supposed to be about Squaresoft, Square-Enix, Enix, or Eidos
ShirubaKurono considering SE recently aquired Eidos
troisnyxetienne Yes.
ShirubaKurono returns to his epic game
troisnyxetienne I'm listing the franchises now.
ShirubaKurono does FMA count?
troisnyxetienne YES
Sove Parasite Eve
troisnyxetienne YES
ShirubaKurono that's Square's manga/anime line
The17master Yep
troisnyxetienne FMA, KH, FF, Dragon Quest, the Mana series, FMA, Tomb Raider, Parasite Eve, Hanjuku Hero, Front
Mission...
ShirubaKurono kthen.
troisnyxetienne TWEWY...
Organization13 Deus-Ex?
ShirubaKurono Chrono Trigger/Cross
The17master Doesn't Star Ocean counts?
ShirubaKurono ^
The17master and TWEWY
troisnyxetienne Star Ocean...
troisnyxetienne YES
troisnyxetienne Deus Ex, I think so, but just make sure.
troisnyxetienne Nier...
The17master Wasn't Nier a single game?
troisnyxetienne Nier has a predecessor, actually.
Sove The Last Remnant
The17master Oh... right, I just realized that
Sove Oh but it's not a franchise
The17master If we includes single games
Sove Valkyrie
The17master There would be a lot of them
troisnyxetienne Yes.
The17master *include
troisnyxetienne Single games count.
Organization13 SE made all 3 Deus Ex, I checked.
troisnyxetienne Yes.
Sove Drakengard
troisnyxetienne OH YES
Sove Itadaki Street
troisnyxetienne Drakengard > Nier.
The17master Musashi, Nier, MindJack,
troisnyxetienne TWEWY?
troisnyxetienne Oh yeah.
troisnyxetienne Anything else?
Sove Kane & Lynch is published by Eidos
troisnyxetienne Good.
troisnyxetienne Also, guys:
troisnyxetienne Have you asked the FFXI wikia?
The17master Soul Eater:Monotone Princess
troisnyxetienne They are separate from FFW as far as I know.
The17master Infinite Undiscovery
ShirubaKurono no, TNE, we haven't
ShirubaKurono The FFXIV wiki was supposed to move, but it kinda...died
troisnyxetienne Go give them a try.
troisnyxetienne FFXI.
ShirubaKurono not now >>
troisnyxetienne Why not?
ShirubaKurono playing epic game
ShirubaKurono somebody else do it plz?
troisnyxetienne .......
ShirubaKurono :3
troisnyxetienne I need to list the franchises down first.
The17master You're free to slap him, TNE
troisnyxetienne slaps Crono.
The17master Better yet, let me do it for you.
ShirubaKurono D:
troisnyxetienne heals Crono's slap mark
The17master slaps Crono with an iron glove
troisnyxetienne .
Organization13 slaps Crono
The17master slaps him more
troisnyxetienne POYO
troisnyxetienne STOP THAT
The17master raises hand
Organization13 Sorry, I got caught up in the moment.
troisnyxetienne heals Crono's slap marks.
troisnyxetienne Enough.
The17master Can I slap him one more time?
The17master Awww.
troisnyxetienne NO, ONE WAS MORE THAN ENOUGH.
The17master sits on the corner
troisnyxetienne Okay, time for me to list the wikis.
troisnyxetienne Now, we need to see if other versions of KHW will be willing to get on the bandwagon.
troisnyxetienne I know Xabryn has got the Portuguese version in his list of wikis, Uxie has the Spanish version, and if
we can get them together, that will also be good.
troisnyxetienne It'll work about the same way as Bulbapedia.
troisnyxetienne But we can't expect it to be instantaneous.
The17master Bulbapedia... wow that site is both horrible and good
troisnyxetienne We're talking about the language linking.
troisnyxetienne More than anything else.
troisnyxetienne Obviously we wouldn't want to take after any other wiki too much.
troisnyxetienne >_>
The17master Oh... right...
troisnyxetienne Stick to the topic, guys.
troisnyxetienne We are talking about 1) which franchises and single games we're going to affiliate,
troisnyxetienne 2) how we're going to get language links.
The17master Well, 1) Those that is qualified by the requirements earlier and is willing to join the alliance
The17master *are
Sove 2 is harder if the wikis don't use the same database
The17master man I really need to work on my grammar >_>
Sove Which they don't
The17master So... make a front page that gives link to each language's wikis?
Sove That'd work
Sove But where do we get a page
The17master Something like that "Select Language" screen on games
Sove And the portal and all
The17master Uhh... make one I guess
The17master with the other languages wikis
Sove Where
Sove Who covers the costs
Sove Etc.
troisnyxetienne Sove: Most wikis have done it at the front page.
troisnyxetienne In small links, just like we once have.
The17master Wait, it needs money? ._.
Sove If you make a seperate website, yes
troisnyxetienne 17m: Porplemontage was willing to cover the costs for KHW.
Sove Or not if a freehost but they suck
The17master Or maybe picture of countries with links
ShirubaKurono IMPORTANT
troisnyxetienne ?
ShirubaKurono EVERYBODY BOOKMARK THE SEIWA SITE
ShirubaKurono NAO
troisnyxetienne Got it.
The17master ....I closed the link to the site a while ago
Sove What SEIWA site
Sove ._.
troisnyxetienne -__-
The17master Can someone copy-pasta the link for me?
troisnyxetienne http://seiwa.abxy.org/about.html
troisnyxetienne I mean
troisnyxetienne http://seiwa.abxy.org/
The17master Sorry ;-;
The17master Thanks!
troisnyxetienne Don't mention it.
Organization13 Bookmarked.
Sove Ah, we already have a page
troisnyxetienne Yes, we do.
Sove Then there are no vosts
The17master Okay, who wrote the rules -_-
Sove costs*
troisnyxetienne Not that we know of.
troisnyxetienne And also:
The17master Shouldn't we change it?
troisnyxetienne The wikis that are planning on joining us are already independent, and it is assumed that our costs are
covered.
ShirubaKurono No.
troisnyxetienne 17m: Not yet.
ShirubaKurono Rules are being debated but haven't been confirmed yet.
Sove Those rules can only be changed by the person who ahs access to the control panel
troisnyxetienne We haven't decided on any at the moment.
ShirubaKurono We've got about 3 in the works.
Sove Probably a person fro strategywiki
troisnyxetienne Yes, but we need to tell him what we've decided on.
troisnyxetienne So in that case...
The17master But seriously... "ANARCHY!" ...?
troisnyxetienne We're the ones ultimately changing them.
ShirubaKurono >.>;
troisnyxetienne 17m: Does that even matter now?!
Sove 17m, it's just a joke -_-
Sove Placeholder with a joke
The17master Sorry...
troisnyxetienne -__- It's alright.
troisnyxetienne But yeah — as of now we are the ones proposing SEIWA, and three wikis intend to join us — let's hope
they do.
troisnyxetienne Also,
troisnyxetienne See the list of Taito games.
troisnyxetienne Taito has also been acquired by SE.
The17master Well, here's a complete list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Taito_games
troisnyxetienne I'm on it now.
troisnyxetienne Hitman is officially an SE franchise.
The17master If I remember correctly, Taito usually makes Arcade games
The17master And not many of them are really famous.
troisnyxetienne Yep, except perhaps Hitman.
The17master I think Space Invaders is also an SE franchise
The17master It belongs to Taito and SE took part in the development of some of its games
troisnyxetienne Space Invaders... Alright.
troisnyxetienne Wait...
troisnyxetienne Space Invaders?
troisnyxetienne How come it's not in the list? D:
Organization13 Bottom of it.
The17master Bust-A-Move series, Rainbow Monkeys series
The17master It is
The17master Space Invaders DX
The17master SE Took part in the development of Space Invaders Extreme
troisnyxetienne I see.
troisnyxetienne Also:
troisnyxetienne http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
troisnyxetienne That's them.
The17master But the main developers is Taito, so... it still counts I guess.
wolf5000 hm
troisnyxetienne Yes.
wolf5000 So are you guys doing only SE wikis based on their games?
troisnyxetienne Yes.
troisnyxetienne Based on their main franchises.
The17master Cooking Mama series
troisnyxetienne Not based on their games solely.
troisnyxetienne Cooking Mama??
The17master It's Taito's game.
troisnyxetienne I see.
wolf5000 So will you guys have wikis based on Nintendo and other stuff?
wolf5000 In the group of wikis
The17master But SE never got involved in the development of the series, does it still count?
troisnyxetienne Yes.
troisnyxetienne It's just like WikiRaider.
troisnyxetienne But as for Wolf:
troisnyxetienne No.
troisnyxetienne Look at Super Mario Wiki for instance:
troisnyxetienne Two or three of their games (including Mario Hoops 3 on 3) had SE in the development team.
troisnyxetienne But they are mainly a Nintendo franchise, and their place would rightly be in NIWA, and not SEIWA.
wolf5000 hm
wolf5000 needs a place to add the spyro wiki
The17master Doesn't Spyro belongs to Sony Computer Entertainment?
wolf5000 I'm not sure
The17master ALong with Crash Bandicoot
wolf5000 It gets moved a lot
wolf5000 Activision
troisnyxetienne Okay, list is done. Please tell me what to add or take away.
troisnyxetienne http://www.khwiki.net/User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa#List_of_franchises_and_single_games_for_SEIWA
The17master Sorry, I think there are no wiki for Bust-A-Move
troisnyxetienne Well, if there isn't, we just leave it on the list.
troisnyxetienne So if there is one in future, we can ask them.
troisnyxetienne But as for those who do have wikis...
troisnyxetienne Please pass me links to them.
The17master Okay then.
troisnyxetienne Independent or otherwise.
The17master Okay, wait a sec.
The17master Space Invaders Wiki (Wikia): http://spaceinvaders.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity
The17master Coking Mama Wiki (Wikia): http://cookingmama.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity
The17master Infinite Undiscovery Wiki (Wikia): http://infiniteundiscovery.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity
troisnyxetienne Thanks.
troisnyxetienne Anymore?
troisnyxetienne I've got the link for the Mana series...
The17master Hitman WIki (WIkia): http://hitman.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity (Neoseeker):
http://hitman.neoseeker.com/wiki/Main_Page
troisnyxetienne I've got the link for Star Ocean too.
troisnyxetienne Thanks. More?
The17master I'm still looking for some more
Organization13 gtg guys sorry
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The17master I think Itadaki Street only has articles...
The17master on FFWiki and Dragon Quest Wiki
troisnyxetienne I see.
troisnyxetienne On a more pressing note...
wolf5000 http://drakengard.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity Drakengard (Wikia)
The17master Parasite Eve Wiki (Wikia): http://parasiteeve.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity
troisnyxetienne KHWiki.net is only number 10 on Google Search.
troisnyxetienne When Kingdom Hearts Wiki is searched, it's still the Wikia page at number one.
The17master At least we're doing a better job than them
The17master Wait... there's a SE Wikia
troisnyxetienne Yes.
troisnyxetienne Square Wiki.
troisnyxetienne But 17m:
troisnyxetienne That is not the point.
troisnyxetienne The point is, if we want people to be directed to the OFFICIAL wiki and not the fan one,
troisnyxetienne We have to be number one on Google Search.
troisnyxetienne At this rate, people will hit what's at number one, and not what's at number ten.
troisnyxetienne Do you understand?
The17master Should we ask them to join?
wolf5000 Yes
The17master I do.
troisnyxetienne Yes, I trust we should.
wolf5000 I think we need to get the wiki a little more better
troisnyxetienne Much more, actually.
The17master Wait, we even lose to Neoseeker wiki D:
wolf5000 is willing to help just doesn't know how
troisnyxetienne We need it to have more hits.
The17master We need more activities.
wolf5000 Right
troisnyxetienne The one way KHWiki.net can go up Google Search is by having MORE HITS to the wiki.
troisnyxetienne It doesn't matter whether or not we have more activities.
troisnyxetienne The more a site is hit, the more popular it gets.
wolf5000 But for us to be good we need to get the wiki to good with out stubs
troisnyxetienne So we need to promote it.
troisnyxetienne Thing is, we left with the same condition as Wikia.
troisnyxetienne Dont' get me wrong.
troisnyxetienne Editing is good, but for us to be THE OFFICIAL KH source...
troisnyxetienne We need to promote it A LOT MORE.
troisnyxetienne So as to get us at number one.
wolf5000 We could also see about getting SEIWA to work as seen in the about
troisnyxetienne Yes, but stick to the point.
troisnyxetienne How are we going to promote it?
The17master Maybe SEIWA could help us spread the words
troisnyxetienne How are we going to get it across?
troisnyxetienne And we're talking about we ourselves, at this point.
wolf5000 "We help cross promote each others' wikis."
troisnyxetienne Because so long as SEIWA has only one wiki, we're not gonna go too far.
wolf5000 We need to build on SEIWA
wolf5000 then go for getting hits
troisnyxetienne Well, about those three wikis...
troisnyxetienne joining SEIWA...
The17master I suppose putting an announcement on the Wikia is not an option.
troisnyxetienne What are we waiting for now?
The17master Wolf's right.
troisnyxetienne 17M: Yes.
troisnyxetienne Point is, what ARE we waiting for?
The17master The others could help us spread the words around
troisnyxetienne Has no one told Kryten or Neumannz about this yet?
The17master I don't know... I've been on this discussion only once
wolf5000 Haven't seen them today
troisnyxetienne DARN IT.
wolf5000 KK is at work i think
The17master ShirubaKurono
troisnyxetienne It's only when they say yes that we can get them in, and when they do...
wolf5000 Neumannz might be away
troisnyxetienne Actually, I've seen him on Skype.
The17master Have you told Kryten and Neumannz yet?
troisnyxetienne I can get him.
troisnyxetienne No, but if no one has told them, I will.
troisnyxetienne Because otherwise, what are we waiting for, really?
The17master Crono or DTN should've told them...
troisnyxetienne We can already get this thing on the road!
troisnyxetienne And for our part...
wolf5000 is ready to help
troisnyxetienne once SEIWA is up, we can promote them, and KHW's Twitter should have a feed about it — I trust I will
be able to help on that level.
The17master And so do I
The17master Although I doubt I can do much...
wolf5000 Same here
wolf5000 But i will try!
The17master Yes!
The17master We have 327 followers
The17master The thing is, some might missed the feed.
troisnyxetienne I have told Kryten on his talk page.
troisnyxetienne On Twitter, I've said something along the lines of:
troisnyxetienne "Plans for a Square Enix Independent Wiki Alliance (#SEIWA) are under way."
troisnyxetienne Should I say more?
The17master Well... for now, I don't think so.
The17master Since we only made a small progress.
wolf5000 Yes
troisnyxetienne Okay.
The17master Maybe we should say something when we get a new member for the alliance
wolf5000 Users and followers will be wondering what SEIWA does and is
troisnyxetienne Also,
troisnyxetienne Is there an avenue for wikis to contact us if they want to join SEIWA?
The17master Like "We have a new member for our SEIWA alliance, please visit the site to know more about the
alliance!"
The17master Uhh... By contacting the admins?
troisnyxetienne Right.... >_>
wolf5000 ......
troisnyxetienne It ain't gonna be clear cut for some, 17m.
wolf5000 User voting?
wolf5000 We did leave for the users
troisnyxetienne If we even think of doing that, wolf, we need a forum.
wolf5000 hm
wolf5000 How about one users that that wiki picks thats in the SEIWA talks with the otehr one user from each
group in SEIWA about that wiki?
wolf5000 In short you get one user from each SEIWA wiki
wolf5000 They get to pick
troisnyxetienne Hm....
wolf5000 those users talk about the new joining wiki
The17master And those users bring along their communities?
troisnyxetienne Well, here's the thing:
troisnyxetienne Right now, we are only KHW.
wolf5000 Yes
troisnyxetienne So to attract them at this point, since we're the only wiki,
troisnyxetienne contact has to be made to us.
troisnyxetienne Only in the later stages can we consider doing something of the sort.
wolf5000 Right now i think we need another wiki
troisnyxetienne Now, as far as contact on KHW is concerned,
troisnyxetienne we don't have a clear-cut measure.
troisnyxetienne And that's the whole problem.
troisnyxetienne If that's going to be the case, we can't lure other wikis right now!
troisnyxetienne So first things first!
troisnyxetienne We need a clear-cut page, forum or user to handle SEIWA activity.
troisnyxetienne And then later, we can move it out of KHW.
The17master I think a forum would be better so others with interest may see the previous discussions
troisnyxetienne Alright.
troisnyxetienne Under The World That Never Was, then, or elsewhere?
troisnyxetienne I'll just put the idea in the Mensa right now, and have Kryten take a look at it.
The17master Since picking some users might be troublesome to explain the same thing over and over again.
The17master IMO we should put it on The World That Never Was
troisnyxetienne Okay.
troisnyxetienne I've thrown the idea into the Mensa for now.
The17master Or maybe even a new one like we did for The Keyblade War, since it's only temporary.
Pea14733 ^That's what I'm thinking.
The17master But.. yeah, we should wait for Kryten

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troisnyxetienne Oh hello there.
DeyvidP Hey
troisnyxetienne What brings you here?
DeyvidP Haha. Sorry for the lack of introduction. I saw this channel at Chronopedia, and I'm interested in the SEIWA
project.
troisnyxetienne Oooh, yes.
troisnyxetienne I recently got the news.
UxieLover She did, y'know
troisnyxetienne Let's not state the obvious
troisnyxetienne Anyway.
troisnyxetienne I'm only waiting for one of the Staff members' feedback on this, and then, I trust we might be able to
get this show off the road.
UxieLover Sorry
troisnyxetienne 'Tis alright.
troisnyxetienne ShirubaKurono, are you there?
DeyvidP Awesome. So, how is it all going to work? Are we going to be porting page, starting all over? I'm exactly clear
on that. I read around the KHWiki and it seems to be similar to what they did.
troisnyxetienne Well, what we did to go indie was this:
troisnyxetienne We had our pages copied/pasted onto the new site, so there wasn't much effort in copying the 2000+
articles.
troisnyxetienne But only some things did not get copied, and we had to do a wiki audit to get them all through.
troisnyxetienne And yes, we're going to be porting pages.
DeyvidP Okay. That doesn't seem to bad. It's hard to image everything would port perfectly.
troisnyxetienne In our case, we could just login as usual, if we were coming from Wikia.
DeyvidP And our usernames and everything else will remain the same?
troisnyxetienne Yep.
troisnyxetienne Even our edit count.
DeyvidP Awesome.
UxieLover It feels good to get away from Wikia!
UxieLover Even I was amaised when I could log in as normal at the KHWiki!
troisnyxetienne amazed*
troisnyxetienne Well, going indie has its perks, surely.
UxieLover That's true
Sove But cons too
Sove Google ranking
Sove Which should het higher after SEIWA is really formed
Sove get*
troisnyxetienne Yes.
troisnyxetienne So the whole point of SEIWA is for us to get together and stay strong.
UxieLover That's right!
DeyvidP Which wikis are forking from Wikia to join SEIWA?
UxieLover WikiRaider is one of them
troisnyxetienne Thus far we've had three interested parties apart from KHW.
troisnyxetienne WikiRaider, you guys and Dragon Quest Wiki.
troisnyxetienne WikiRaider and Dragon Quest have already gone indie.
DeyvidP Cool. So are we going to have separate portals for each wiki or are all the pages going to be on one wiki?
Sove If I want to do something, I wanna help with that website
Sove Due to my web technology experience
troisnyxetienne Well, imagine the SEIWA homepage as the portal to all the wikis.
troisnyxetienne Then each wiki homepage will link to the other SEIWA wikis.
troisnyxetienne So there's a portal for each wiki.
DeyvidP Makes sense.
troisnyxetienne The concept can be likened to NIWA, which does the same for Nintendo wikis.
Sove I'm not good at PHP etc. stuff but I can edit existing code and can do XHTML
Sove It's just that I lack creativity
troisnyxetienne I can handle images, but then, I may not be the best.
Sove Well ErryK can help with that
Sove I guess
troisnyxetienne Yep.
troisnyxetienne And if there are any people from the partner wikis willing to chip in, it'd be nice too.
DeyvidP Unfortunately, my experience with web design is very minimal, but I'll help out where I can.
troisnyxetienne Okay.
Sove How does the community interact with each other
troisnyxetienne We're only waiting for KrytenKoro's feedback on the thing.
Sove Only IRC?
troisnyxetienne At this point, yes, since we're starting small.
troisnyxetienne But surely, once we've set up everything,
troisnyxetienne There may be a separate forum or something.
UxieLover True
troisnyxetienne Like I mentioned before,
troisnyxetienne the only people they can contact right now is us.
troisnyxetienne are* us
UxieLover I'm not in a joyful mood like always
Sove Well, seperate forum is good
troisnyxetienne So we have to make use of the Forums and the IRC on our side.
troisnyxetienne Yes.
UxieLover Hm
Sove But there's a problem with users
troisnyxetienne 17master suggested that.
troisnyxetienne So...
UxieLover Right'
troisnyxetienne The best way right now would be the IRC.
UxieLover That's... true
Sove I can help with the forum part, maybe I'll find a way to do a little synching with the wikis
troisnyxetienne That'll be great. ^_^
Sove So no registering seperately is needed
troisnyxetienne Oooooh, nice.
Sove You make a wiki account and you get a forum acc too
Sove It is possible, but no idea how to do it
troisnyxetienne I trust we'll find out.
Sove Sone people really do it
Sove I think it needs a single database
troisnyxetienne I believe so too.
Sove That means the databses must be merged
UxieLover Yeah
Sove Long task
Sove But not impossible
troisnyxetienne But what will happen to the wikis themselves?
Sove Nothing
troisnyxetienne Oh good.
Sove They need to be locked for some time
Sove But they can stay readable
troisnyxetienne Yeah.
UxieLover Good idea
troisnyxetienne But will that mean the whole wiki, or just the userspace?
Sove I have no idea about that
troisnyxetienne I see.
Sove I'd rather try the users only
troisnyxetienne Okay.
troisnyxetienne Which is what Bulbapedia is going through at the moment.
UxieLover Well, I think we should not let IPs edit. Bulbapedia and Spyropedia does that
Sove Maybe because of high IP vandalism?
troisnyxetienne Block every IP... We can do that manually, but I'm not sure if there's a short method to do that for
all pages.
UxieLover Not much edit on userpages over there. It's because of the recent release of Black and White
troisnyxetienne I see.
Sove TNE, easy way to do that
troisnyxetienne ?
UxieLover We should only do that for large wikis, in case
Sove Block the ip range 0.0.0.0-255.255.255.255
Sove And it's done
troisnyxetienne Aaaaah.
UxieLover There are many bad people
troisnyxetienne Thanks!
Sove But I'd rather use a different method
troisnyxetienne What do you have in mind?
Sove Wait a bit
Sove It takes a while for me to login to my own testing website's control panel
Sove And find my wiki
troisnyxetienne I see.
Sove $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false;
troisnyxetienne That's the way to do it?
troisnyxetienne Where do we type that?
Sove $wgGroupPermissions['user']['edit'] = true;
Sove Well, you can't do that
Sove As I said, I needed to login to my website's control panel
troisnyxetienne I see.
troisnyxetienne Erry: Have you got an archive of all that's taken place?
Sove $wgGroupPermissions is a variable that can be used to set userrights
troisnyxetienne Oooh.
troisnyxetienne ErryK?
Sove the enxt part
Sove ['*'] means it's affecting everyone
troisnyxetienne I see.
ErryK I think I do.
troisnyxetienne Great.
Sove The next, ['edit'] means it's affecting the editing right
troisnyxetienne ^.^
ErryK Are you asking me for one or... ?
Sove "false" means the group, in this case everyone don't have the right
Sove Basically the first line disabled ediitng for everyone
troisnyxetienne ErryK: No, I'm just asking you if you've read it.
troisnyxetienne Sove: I see.
ErryK OH. Do you mean earlier today?
Sove While the enxt line gives it to the group users
troisnyxetienne Yes.
Sove Since all registered users are in that group, only registered users can edit
ErryK No, I left really early today.
ErryK At around 9am.
troisnyxetienne I see.
Sove http://oi56.tinypic.com/neurf6.jpg That will block IP editing
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troisnyxetienne I see.
troisnyxetienne Hey again, DeyvidP.
Sove They will get an error that they don't have the right to do that
Sove Not the block message
troisnyxetienne I see.
DeyvidP Hey there again. Accidentally closed the window *facepalm*.
UxieLover Alright
troisnyxetienne We're taking a look at how all of this can work — Sove is looking through wikicode.
Sove Hey I know how mediawik works >:3
Sove I have the same tools as wikia
Sove Basically
troisnyxetienne Yes I know
Sove I could easily make a self-installation of a forum, not one hosted by a service, they usually block database
backups etc.
troisnyxetienne *nods*
Sove Too many times I have encountered one
Sove "This function has been disabled"
troisnyxetienne Which function has been disabled?
Sove Database backup, usually
Sove Forum hosts usually block access to the backup tool
Sove Mainly because there's no need for it because they take their own backups when they want to and they don't
accept customer backups
troisnyxetienne I see.
Sove Well, I can't backup that testwiki
Sove Through normal means because my webhost doesn't give shell access to its users
troisnyxetienne I see.
Sove Mediawiki doesn't have its own backup function that can be run from a special page
Sove It's a maintenance file that can only be run from a command line (Shell)
Sove While forum softwares usually have a backup function in the ACP
troisnyxetienne So what do we do about that, then?
Sove About what?
troisnyxetienne If Mediawiki doesn't have its backup function, then how's the actual SEIWA site gonna function?
Sove Mediawiki does have a backup function, it's just not a special page
troisnyxetienne Right.
Sove Porple can do the backups as long as the wiki is in his servers
Sove Users can get a backup from the export page but it takes insanely long
troisnyxetienne I see....
Sove Wikia actually gives a backup
Sove It can be downlaoded from a special page
troisnyxetienne Aah/
troisnyxetienne .
Sove By anyone
Sove Sometimes I feel so nerdy ._.
troisnyxetienne Well, it's much needed.
Sove But that's one thing people like in me
troisnyxetienne *SMILE*

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