What are we supposed to do with this page? The 2.5 localisers dropped the ball (like they did with a lot of things...LF Ragnarok anyone?) and just copy-pasted the "Shaman's Relic" name onto this weapon (and probably the + variant, but I don't have that). Merge, or leave it and note it somewhere? Any other suggestions? Ultima Spark (talk) Lofty Fantasy KH3D.png 05:27, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

We need to confirm what happened to the +, and then it will probably be worth merging them all -- they're clearly meant to be the same thing, just with adjusted names."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 17:35, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
It's Shaman's Relic+ in English FM after all... Ultima Spark (talk) Lofty Fantasy KH3D.png 20:54, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
I'm confused...We've got basically three different staves in the original Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix: Shaman's Relic, Spell's Relic, and Spell's Relic+. Based on the screenshot Ultima Spark provided, one of the three is missing in Kingdom Hearts HD 2.5 ReMIX. Which one is missing, then? Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.pngKeybladeSpyMaster Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png 21:05, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
They're the same thing, "Shaman" items were just renamed as "Spell" in Japanese FM. Ultima Spark (talk) Lofty Fantasy KH3D.png 21:17, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, but they exist separately in the original Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix, no? In other words, there's supposed to be three different staves in the HD ReMIX because there are three different staves in the original. And this only occurs in the Japanese version? So all three exist in the NA version? Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.pngKeybladeSpyMaster Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png 21:41, 20 April 2015 (UTC)