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Neumannz - ATTENTION DUELISTS! If you could all stop staring at my hair for a moment...
TALK - Those child-grabbing classes were worth every penny!
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Positive effects

If you choose to do all of them, well, CoM's enemy cards are going to jack your shit. It might just be worth having a summary in the lead, and only covering the ones that appear places beyond just CoM.

CoM sleight status effects:

  • Stop
  • Stun
  • Freeze
  • Warp
  • Bind
  • Confuse
  • Terror
  • Synchro? (is it instantaneous?)
  • Gifted Miracle? (same)

BbS friend command effects:

  • Confetti (berserk? what gets all criticals?)
  • Fireworks?
  • Vanish

"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 04:22, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

New project: Fact project

To go hand in hand with the interviews project.

Correct format for interviews is here. We need to add that to the MoS, then organize a propagation of it--looking for stuff that should be sourced to publications instead of just the games (or already says that it should be), and then sourcing it properly."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 03:05, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Re:Requests

  1. Anti-form is capable of beating bosses with a finisher. I remember taking a screenshot once, but I can't seem to find the link anymore.
  2. Sure, I'll get to it.

You have wormed your way to the very nadir of repugnance. - Erry 08:34, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

  1. Sora does not wear the crown in Christmas Town or Halloween Town.
  2. Here is a gif with each screencap 10 seconds long, that should be enough to get the text. All forms are included.

And Xemnas (Final Form) is in "The World of Nothing"

  • Armored Controller: The World of Nothing - Xemnas's Throne Room
  • Energy Core before Xemnas on the throne: The World of Nothing - Energy Core
  • Place where you hit all the Nobodies to blow them up: The World of Nothing - Twin Cannons
  • First place after you go through the Door to Darkness, where you start the fight with a skyscraper reaction command: The World of Nothing - End's Beginning

You have wormed your way to the very nadir of repugnance. - Erry 08:02, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Does Twin Cannons include the place right after End's Beginning where you jump through the sky atop skyscrapers? And are all of these considered part of The World That Never Was? Finally, would it be possible to get nihongo for these?192.249.47.195 20:46, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Keyblade of Worlds' Hearts

that Sora and Mickey wield. Do we mention that anywhere?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 10:16, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Where is that from, again? --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 02:30, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
Director's Secret Report XIII."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 05:18, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

What exactly did it say? --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 06:18, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Sora

  1. How is the whole article a spoiler? Shouldnt it only be the 3D section?
  2. I would think that the ability section would need to cover any ability he got in KH 3D (if any)
  3. If possible, there should be some trimming done to the story section. I mean, some games cover events in disney world, and some just plain skip them, I dont know what kind of consistency is here.
  4. What's the purpose of the "Miscellaneous" part of the ability section? it doesnt seem to exist in any other article. Also, with nobodies now revelead to grow a heart, him making Axel feel emotions seems irrelevant.

And that's all I can find. It feels like a very long article, but at the same time, that everything seems to be needed. I would have someone else run over it, but that's what I could notice.

--Dark-EnigmaXIII 08:13, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

I understood and I alway's put them on their talk Pages.

I understand that, besides I alway's discuss the users on their talk page, regarding why they did it, FYI. DisneyGirkeybladewielder95 17:47, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Re: Previous conversations.

Alright then but no need to get so pissed off, and i understand what you mean, and I am now putting the discussion on the articles talk page. DisneyGirkeybladewielder95 19:04, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

DisneyGirkeybladewielder95‎‎

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UxieLover1994 Tiempo de morder de nuevo con el poder! El tema de hoy: su sorpresa! — 16:58, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
710MS.png I gave DisneyGirkeybladewielder95‎‎ a warning for his edits to Space Paranoids and The Grid, and he archived it instantly without permission. I gave him another warning, and he uses one of my archive pages to tell me off. Please give a friendly lecture to him about the rules; I would have done it myself, but I fear I'll pull myself into a fight.

Oh, and thanks for accepting my affiliation request, amigo! ;)

Look I'm sorry I made the biggest flaws on this wiki just call me thae bad person here. :( DisneyGirkeybladewielder95 17:01, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
Um? We're not part of Wikia anymore. UxieLover1994 17:05, 1 July 2012 (UTC)


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Neumannz — 30px-Cancer_Symbol.png EVERYBODY OUT OF THE GODDAMN WAY. I GOT A LAB FULL OF HUMANS, A MOUTH FULL OF YELLING, AND A TORTURED PSYCHOLOGICAL PROFILE FULL OF TOTALLY HYSTERICAL EMOTIONS AND UNAIRED GRIEVANCES AT PRACTICALLY EVERYBODY.
TALK — 21:34, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 
NZ: argh
NZ: don't be sorry, just fix it


Synthesis Materials

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Coldasfire -  Hey, I feel like we're friends already. 
TALK -  Get it memorized already.05:23, 10 July 2012 (UTC) 
Hey Neumannz, can you give me a clear set of instructions on how to do the material pages? thankee...sorry for the dark ingot page, i published it w/out knowing and half-finished :P



 
Coldasfire - You won't disappear!
TALK - Thank Naminè{{{time}}}
No, that's okay, i just needed a little more info than "It needs to be more like Blazing". thankee

Talkbox Trouble

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UxieLover1994 Cuando la vida te da las herramientas, a construir motos libración — 19:54, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
480MS.png I'm doing a talkbox for RockSlicer‎‎747, but there is an issue that prevent the template from being completed. All the text is in the center, and whenever I put in an image, the box becomes corupted and won't appear at all. Here's the link.

RockSlicer‎‎'s choice of image happens to be Sora in his Space Paranoids costume. I recomend the normal HP/MP spite for now, as we've yet to do a propper one.

I'll take a look in a little while. See if my talk template works any better in the meantime. --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 20:12, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

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UxieLover1994 Nya? — 20:14, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
678MS.png I'll give it a try tomorrow (it's late here, so I have to sleep now).

OK, my answer: the centering happens when there is no image. Honestly, I'm not sure why that's the case, but it happens on my TalkTemplate, too. As for adding an image, it seems to work fine. What was appearing for you? --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 00:34, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

What is This Bolshevik?

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Eternal Nothingness XIII - This heart belongs again to darkness. All worlds begin in darkness, and all so end. The heart is no different. Darkness sprouts within it—it grows, consumes it. Such is its nature. In the end, every heart returns to the darkness whence it came.
TALK - Your body submits, your heart succumbs—so why does your mind resist? — 01:14, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
  Hello, Neumannz. I know this isn't really your problem, but I didn't really know who else to turn to:

I innocently try logging into the IRC to strike up a chat with Maggosh if he's online, and I get this:

  • "You have been redirected here from another channel because your habit of bouncing in and out within a few seconds and never saying anything is irritating and causes annoying spam to the channel. Please fix your habits and remember that the /whois command exists for a reason. :)"

What a load of crap!

  • I "bounce in and out within a few seconds without saying anything" because the IRC community generally has NOTHING to say to me. If there's a "Hello, ENX", I'll answer, but most of the time, the main channel's dead. I'm sorry that I'm not chatting up a storm with a bunch of people I barely even know (I was much more of a chatterbox when friends such as Troisnyxetienne were IRC-regulars), but I only go on the IRC to see if friends of mine like Maggosh are on so I can talk with them the only way I am able. If the person isn't online, what's the sense of my being there unless summoned by another user for another purpose? I don't really want to have a tab open just for the sake of having it so I can go back to the IRC and stare at a blank screen.
  • I fail to see how my signing in and then signing out for my own reasons is "annoying spam to the channel". That doesn't even qualify as spam. It's like saying every time someone logs in or out of the IRC, it's spam. If I signed in, signed out, and then kept doing it for an hour straight, THEN it would be spam. Not being able to access the channel when it's pretty much required as a staff member is what's truly annoying. If it's irritating to people, why can't they simply just hold it in as a pet peeve and get over it? Blocking the IRC to someone irrationally isn't going to help fix anything, and it just leads to problems like this. Why are people randomly taking something so small and insignificant this way?
  • "Please fix your habits"...HOW THE HELL AM I SUPPOSED TO DO THIS WHEN I'M BLOCKED FROM THE @#$%-ING CHANNEL?! You don't even get the chance to change anything when you're unable to access the source of the problem. I assume the bit about the /whois command is to identify sockpuppets, which people need a serious reality check if they think that's something I'd attempt.

Not sure when any of this was decided/enforced, but I certainly don't like it. Especially when I'm forced to learn about it as an "in your face" negative surprise. I really think this could have been handled better: Message the user you have a problem with saying their IRC behaviors are being called into question as a friendly warning, but still grant them access, and only if the offense continues (fail to see how this is offensive), prevent access to the channel.

Sorry to suddenly rant in your face like this, but I'd appreciate if you could do something about this or at least let me know what must be done to fix it myself. Thank you!

As I save this page, I anticipate reading something about this on the IRC page, thus answering my questions myself, so I apologize if that happens...
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Neumannz — Looks like I'm gonna have to jump...!
TALK — I work alone! Except when I work with Xion...which is all the time.
— 03:54, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 
Huh. Well, I dunno when or why that happened, but I left a message for XJR-9 on the channel, so hopefully he can find some answers.

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Eternal Nothingness XIII -   You have to be strong. Strength of heart will carry you through the hardest of trials.
TALK - What I do, I do for friendship. — 05:26, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 Thanks, Neumannz :) Again, sorry for the ranting.

EMERGENCY

I need to see you on the IRC asap. You have wormed your way to the very nadir of repugnance. - Erry 20:14, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

IRC

For some important staffer-to-staffer stuff, if at all possible. -  Eternal Nothingness XIII  16:58, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Dream Eater articles

  1. We need to get the lead into standard, and set up sections for the rest of the article. All "Category:Allies" should be deleted.
  2. The Design sections need to be completely rewritten to follow the standard I set up for Necho Cat.
  3. The sooner somebody can get me the guide's info on Spirit stats, the sooner I can code the Enemy template for it.
  4. For all Keyblades and Dream Eaters, we need to remove parameter "japname" if it matches the localized name.
  5. See if you can get the European guys to start taking pictures and summaries of the synthesis items, so we can get those articles started.
  6. Regarding Aura Lion, Anti Black Coat, and Spellican, do we have localizations yet? Those are all that's left, woo."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 16:10, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
  1. What should the lead be, besides "The [name] is a Dream Eater that appears in Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance"?
  2. Do you mean how it is now, or the last time you edited the Design section?
  3. I'll ask Shard
  4. Have people actually been dumb enough to add "japname" when the dubbed name was the same?
  5. Alrighty
  6. We had Aura Lion a while ago, I guess we just forgot to take off the translation template. --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 19:15, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
There are some page for Nightmare stats and one page for Sprits stats of the Ultimania in this zip archive. Currently my Ultimania is out of my reach so I can't scan pages. But the Bradygames guide will be published shortly, so maybe we should wait for it. --ShardofTruth (talk) 16:15, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Wanted files and Renaming, replacing and removing Talk Sprites

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ShardofTruth Once you believe, truth and lie are quite the same thing. — 16:15, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
  This suggestion somehow concerns all these topics, so I'll have to explain a bit more.

The WantedFiles special page is not useful anymore because there are thousands of files that were deleted or got moved and the files that are actually wanted (TCG images or the new synthesis material images) are overlooked. I didn't always change every image link in the past because it's either considered rude or unnecessary to change image links on personal userspace and necrobumping dozen of old forum topics is "polluting" the forums so to speak. That's why I think we should be more radical to solve this problem. We should:

  1. archive all forum topics that are older than half a year, so they don't go back to the first page when changing an image
  2. replace all missing image links that can be replaced (because the image was only moved or reuploaded) on articles' talk pages (and maybe unarchived user pages and their talk pages) and forum pages
  3. delete all missing image links from archived pages
  4. delete all user talk sprites that are still uploaded
    1. Xion4ever uploaded some of them on her Photobucket account in the past and replaced the link, but that's just too much work
    2. The Inexistent replaced many User talk sprites with a file called REPLACED.png but I don't think this is any better than just removing it
  5. delete all KHCOM, KHD and KHREC talk sprites that are superfluous (I don't think we need all 17 KHCOM Donald talk sprites and the alignment should be the same for all of them), rename the rest to match the naming scheme
  6. rename all KHCOM renders (mainly the Organization XIII ones) to KHRECOM and use KHCOM for the sprites only
  7. as bonus we could link all talk templates that require Xiggie's TalkTemplate or Xiggie's TalkTemplate 2 to a draft that is hosted in the template mainspace

This project would of course require the heavy use of the AWB, but I think it's doable. What's your opinion?

Signature

Hi, Neumz-senpai. Kryten-senpai contacted me about the signature like you did with EternalNothingnessXIII. Can you show me what she mean and help me put my signature in a template since I've never done that before?--NinjaSheik 17:02, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Trivia

We need you to go over them, make sure they're appropriate (nothing from KH3D) and have answers, and are 20ish of them.

Then type them up neatly in a word doc, load that to googledocs or something else where people can get it, and post a notice on the front page.

I'm personally planning to give my extra KH cards to the winner of my local one, you can suggest whatever you want for other people but they should try to submit them to their local gamestops or whatever."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 23:06, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Re: New Pages

very well. I am certain that you and others will be able to assist with further development of these pages at your discretion. Someone will eventually do it. If you will not, or if others will not, I can understand. I will continue myself.

I really was not intending to be sarcastic when I added the stubs to the pages.

User:173.167.179.77‎

Hey, Nemuz-senpai, can you talk that anon, please? Kryten-senpai and I both told him/her told read up on the rules and use the talk pages instead of the articles, but he/she/it (whatever) isn't listening and driving me crazy!--NinjaSheik 01:13, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Remember that anon? Yeah, back again and still not listening to us. I don't what to do, Neum-senpai. I mean, he/she sucks at writing and me, you, and Kryten-senpai all told him/she to stop it, but I'm gonna feel bad to give the anon a warning. He/She isn't doing anything to vandalize the wiki, but I realize it's necessary to make he/she/it see that what's he's/she's is doing wrong. Should we try the easy approach or we-have-no-choice approach and give the anon a warning?--NinjaSheik 19:54, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Okay, never mind. This person is driving me crazy, and has failed to listen to us. To prevent any disagreements, can we at least block the person for a week he/she until the messages we left on his/her talk page gets through his/her thick skull?--NinjaSheik 21:52, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Language link

Neumannz, you as almighty bureaucrat, can you please change the "de" language link from "http://kh.se-heaven.de/wiki/$1" to "http://www.kingdom-hearts-wiki.de/wiki/$1", Sum2k3 & Co switched the servers another time. --ShardofTruth (talk) 22:06, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks:-) --ShardofTruth (talk) 01:12, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Pinocchio

Pinocchio's section needs a massive overhaul to clean up the frankly atrocious grammar, as well as to remove speculation and incorporate new info from KH3D. Can you help me with it?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 22:47, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

I've got class in a few minutes, but I'll work on it once I'm done. --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 22:54, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
Whenever you can get on the IRC, I'd like to chat about EDIT:THINGS.01:59, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

KHWiki:Trinity Archives/KH3D Launch Event

I have my draft done with what pictures I thought were most appropriate. If you or maggosh or anyone could look over it and spruce anything that needs sprucing, it would be much appreciated. I'm really sorry this took so long, combination of work and reaaaaaally wanting to play KH3D.

Maybe the images need rotating, I don't know."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 07:10, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Are you here?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 02:33, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Re:Review

So I'm having a bit of trouble assembling my review points into an article format myself. I like the articles you've composed for your review points and maggosh's review points, so could we possibly work out a compromise? I'm more than willing to sort my bullet points if that would make combining them any easier. -  Eternal Nothingness XIII  01:56, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Sorry to butt in here, but I actually wrote a review for gameinformer.com for this game. I'd be willing to add it to the fray. That being said, I perfectly understand if you want to keep it at the three you already have or for only staff members, so it's cool either way. Light Roxas 03:06, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Ability Link

I've rewritten the Superglide note to a temporary option. Before it is implemented wiki-wide, I want discussion on whether it is sufficient to explain that half of the Ability Link abilities DO BELONG TO THE DREAM EATER, and are only active when the Dream Eater is in the party. Even the one's that remain do NOT belong to either Sora or Riku, as occurred in Birth by Sleep—they are still equipped to the entire party, the ability screen explicitly states that certain abilities belong to certain species of Dream Eater (if you have that Dream Eater's recipe), and I would strongly argue that they are still the Dream Eater's ability, they are just active whether it's in the party or in reserve.

So, again, I still feel that my original phrasing is both more in line with previous phrasing, and more accurate to the actual situation."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 22:37, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

I think what's there now is good for covering commands. I guess we'll have to make a separate call for passive abilities, but shouldn't the mechanics of an ability be covered in, say, the Mechanics section? --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 01:59, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
I guess so, but for those I still feel that my original phrasing is more accurate to the situation."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 12:08, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
Also, regardless of whether someone thinks it "sounds good" or not, it's simply inaccurate to state it as "the" as if there were only one. You can create multiples of every Dream Eater, and can obtain multiple Superglides."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 12:10, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
I have strong objections to this edit, but at this point I require a third-party opinion. Please decide format should be used.192.249.47.177 14:58, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

This is a subtle point, but it's significant. Every Ryu Dragon has "the" Ryu Dragon Ability Link, just like Terra, Ven, and Aqua all get "the" Stitch D-Link. So I'm alright with this. (Well, to be fair, I'm the one who put it that way, but whatever.)

I believe this is sufficient for commands used by Sora and/or Riku. I don't know about when they're used by the Dream Eaters, though. --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 17:13, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Okay, to give and get clarification:
  • Dream Eaters don't get new commands from the Ability Link. The abilities they can use in battle are determined by their disposition and rank.
  • Are you saying that the Ability Link for a species is shared across all instances of a species, meaning that if I dismiss my Ryu Dragon and create a new one, it will still have the same abilities unlocked? I cannot myself deny this, but my reading of message boards indicates it to not be factual.
    • If you are instead saying that they all share the same Ability Link layout, that much is true, but I still believe that the phrasing implies that you can only get Superglide once, while my understanding is that you can obtain it multiple times by creating multiple Ryu Dragons. I can create a Meow Wow real quick to test this, when I get back to my 3DS.192.249.47.177 17:32, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

OK, I can't say much about the abilities the DEs can use, all I know is that one time I saw one using Sparkga and another time I saw one use Time Bomb, so I bow to your first-hand knowledge.

I'm pretty sure they only share the layout (i.e., "this layout is for the Ryu Dragon Ability Link"), so I guess it all comes down to whether the reader is paying attention? I guess if we want to be perfectly clear, we can make it "a" instead of "the" after all, but I don't like the apostrophe-s in it. --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 17:47, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

I can certainly agree to calling the layout a "Ryu Dragon Ability Link". I just want to make sure we aren't implying there's only one Superglide to be obtained (unless it turns out that's true).192.249.47.177 18:49, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
Also...a PA Warning has to be handed out to a certain user, as much as I appreciate what he said. I'd rather not insult him by doing it myself, since it would look mightily ungrateful. Would you be willing to?
And on that note, if you feel I need to recieve a PA Warning as well (I'm not sure if I went over the line or not, at this point), please give me one, or have one of the other admins do it.
IRC in two hours if you need clarification, I don't want to publicize it here.192.249.47.177 18:52, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

IRC, then. --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 19:40, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Re:More Ultimania

Apparently I had the pages scanned already, so you can download them here. I felt uncomfortable to upload so many copyright reserved pages in one place, so I put the usual password on the zip file. If you can't remember it, I will be in the social channel for the next hours. --ShardofTruth 20:54, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

New Game+

In KH3D, a new game+ retains:

  • Spirits (exactly as they were when they were created)
  • Story, Character Files, Glossary, and Trophy Shelf within Journal
  • All Mementos
  • All Recipes

I'm not sure where to mention this, because this is the first true New Game + we've had (and an annoying one for the genre, as you can't get all the trophies without using New Game+), but there you go."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 17:50, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Staff Image

Please link me to a Dream Eater, preferably Nightmare but Spirits work too. For the new staff image makeover. Make sure to head to the staff page and make sure that Dream Eater is not taken. You have wormed your way to the very nadir of repugnance. - Erry 22:49, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Quick question, Nemuz-senpai. Erry-san posted the same message you see above on my talk page, too, so I was wondering is it really necessary to change my icon image on the Staff page. I really like my Naminé one, but if really have to link my image to a dream eater, then I'll do it. Although, I don't really know how to. My first icon was made someone else and I was never good making my own special icon, so I wonder if you or Erry-san can do it for me, please.--NinjaSheik 22:59, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

At this point in the series, I'm kind of wondering whether we want to keep going with themes or let everyone pick their own thing. Then again, it's nice to have solidarity."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 01:26, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
My thoughts exactly, Kryten. :) I really do like my Naminé one because I've stuck by it for so long.--NinjaSheik 01:27, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Why don't you move yours to your userpage? --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 04:09, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

I guess I could do that, but it'll look at of place.--NinjaSheik 18:29, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Soooooo...

Yeah. I'm fast approaching ultimatum time. Yaaaaay."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 19:35, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Delivery...

Click. And?--Xion4ever 02:16, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Pretty impressive. I'm not sure what the "(START/END OF ___)" is for, and the different world articles need separate tables, but it's shaping up pretty nice. --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 02:40, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
Start/End is just for the moment to show when the certain sections start/end. I'll break it into individual world tables and post back here.--Xion4ever 12:13, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Could you?

Could you move everything from User talk:86.128.174.45 to my account? I had not made one when I edited yesterday.--Mickeyisawesome (talk) 02:37, 23 August 2012 (UTC)