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First and foremost: Based on that text, TroisNyx's reports, at least two previous texts I've read, heck, based on a message posted on my own talk page not yesterday, I see the need to remove at least one user from ops, if not from IRC. Hexed has continued to flout the rules after warnings from many folks; he seems to think he is above them. He could have easily created a new channel, invited interested chatters, and post whatever he pleased in there, as the PG rule is for the main room only. Instead, he chose to remain in the main room and continue to taunt LegoAlchemist and other users, as well as post inappropriate links or language. He has demonstrated on this and other occasions he is not mature enough to be an op.
There are a couple of other ops I think we need a close look at, but we'll worry about this later.
Next: Warning system for all. Can we trial run it for a week to see if it works? I think this is one of those things we have to experiment to see how it goes. I think the philosophy behind it is sound, but I want to see if it creates any issues.
The idea of IRC was to create a safe environment where all users could enjoy talking about stuff without having to clog up the wiki; those people creating IRC issues are now doing just that by causing users to complain on our talk pages and forcing us to create forum topics like this. I've also wasted about twenty minutes of my free time dealing with this issue. I, nor any other admin, want to come on this wiki and deal with this. I think a lot more of us admin/ops are going to be cracking down on this in the future. Consider this your warning.
I'm sure some folks wonder why I'm so keen on us remaining a PG-rated channel. I'm also sure most of you are aware of the average age of our users. Some posters have taken the attitude that "Kids & teens are going to see/do/say it anyway, so what's the harm?" You'd be surprised...I could tell stories from my time as a teacher, both from my room and other teachers. I won't tell them here, partially out of confidentiality, and partially because some are graphic enough I'd be breaking our own wiki rule (Irony, no?). But I can say that while it might not be life-altering, damage can be done, and it's not fun to deal with.
So here's the deal: if a user doesn't like the IRC rules, they certainly don't have to post there. If they want to troll, swear, post crap, and so on, there are hundreds of thousands of channels and chatrooms across the internet you may choose to do so in. But not in this one.
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I agree with pretty much everything, except for the whole disowning the channel bit. Getting rid of the IRC would be a very hypocritical move, as we pretty much cheer on the use of it and not User Space for conversations. It isn't the channel's fault, it's the channeleers. Ninja, sensitivity may be hard to retain, but letting it out through anger is pretty much smashing everything assuming good faith stands for. Like everything that has rules, as soon as any user enters the IRC, they are agreeing to follow them. That is always how it is universally. If users have dropped to a going so low as to just breaking them, and the users in charge OR ANYONE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER do barely anything to stop it, we have a serious problem on our hands.
