Azul81677 - "Ebil minds think ebily alike." - A collaboration between 2 very ebil minds TALK - 00:22, January 2, 2010 (UTC)
Maybe this conversation has been held before, I cannot remember >> As of late, err... since the dawn of this wiki's time, image names have been all over the place. I remember at one point, images (cards I believe they were) were being deleted and re-uploaded to standardize the names of them. Should we do this with all Heartless, Nobody, Unversed, what have you, images? I'm thinking of something like:
<Enemy name>-<game>.<extension>
"Enemy name" and "extension" being replaced with the obvious and "game" being: khi, khii, khcom, khdays etc. This will be a huge project, but since I'm not currently committed to any project in particular ._. , I'm sure I can do it. What say you lady admin?
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...00:36, January 2, 2010 (UTC)
I say go for it. Anything to make tracking down images easier. Just watch the links...but then again I really don't need to tell you of all people that, right? ^_-
Azul81677 - "Ebil minds think ebily alike." - A collaboration between 2 very ebil minds TALK - 00:41, January 2, 2010 (UTC)
Pshhh, of course not <_>
New Category Execution Idea
Eternal Nothingness XIII - I'm not afraid of what the darkness holds now. Even if you do wrest control of my heart from me, even if you cast me into the deepest, darkest abyss, you'll never sway me from the one cause that pushes me to keep on fighting. Whatever the cost, I'm ready to pay it. TALK - There's darkness within me... So what does that matter? I know I'm strong enough to hold it back. — 00:23, January 3, 2010 (UTC)
If you wouldn't mind seeing here and give feedback, that'd be much appreciated. Just a way to jazz up the categories or some other thing that I got an idea from the Cirque du Freak Wiki. I had brought it up before, to no avail. Rather than the links, I think we could just paste the code for a template we'd create onto the category page, right? I'm not too sure. We'd have to contact the Wiki to get it right. I have no clue if that made any sense to you :P
Just an idea. If not the categories, perhaps we could implement it into the lists of Heartless/Nobodies/Characters on their respected pages some how...
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...00:09, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
Ah, I see what it does. That's a good idea, but we have so many characters it might make it tough to navigate. It might be great for things like Keyblades, or as you said, creature types.
Have you put it in the regular forums for other ideas on how we could use it? It's probably worth examining...
Eternal Nothingness XIII - You have to be strong. Strength of heart will carry you through the hardest of trials. TALK - What I do, I do for friendship. — 00:36, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
I had, but there were no responses. Now that we have examples (unfortunately non-KH examples), perhaps one of us should bring it back up again...
EDIT : Also, if you wouldn't mind seeing User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Mirage Arena and giving feedback, that'd be appreciated. Reason for wasting an hour of my morning was because Joint Struggle hosts a VERY incomplete/inaccurate Mirage Arena WORLD Infobox... We had decided not to make an article for Mirage Arena as there's not any information on it, but they out-of-place world infobox makes the suggestion that this is what must be done. It doesn't make sense to have a world infobox on a MULTIPLAYER article, especially when it's filled with kinks.
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...03:28, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
Looks like a good start to me. I'm sure more info will come down the pike soon enough to fill in the missing bits.
Eternal Nothingness XIII - But why? Help me understand, Master Xehanort. What is it that I have failed to learn? TALK - What? How did I— What did I do? What did YOU do? — 10:27, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
Could we just remove the Infobox, though, on Joint Struggle, I mean?
A Few Questions
Eternal Nothingness XIII - I'm not afraid of what the darkness holds now. Even if you do wrest control of my heart from me, even if you cast me into the deepest, darkest abyss, you'll never sway me from the one cause that pushes me to keep on fighting. Whatever the cost, I'm ready to pay it. TALK - There's darkness within me... So what does that matter? I know I'm strong enough to hold it back. — 09:37, January 3, 2010 (UTC)
I was stalking browsing the Wiki, and I wondered a few things :
Can anyone update the Diary, or just the staff?
Does a BBS spoiler template exist yet? If so, I didn't find colors in an apparent rough draft "accurate." I'll need to edit those :P
I honestly can't wait for BBS to come out on Saturday. Of course I have to be in Boston on the release date >_< But when I get home on Sunday, it's back to rotting in front of YouTube watching the Japanese version and getting a headache because of it until the English release.
Another big hopeful accomplishment for me this week :
Just finished reading Animal Farm for school. Book was actually pretty easy to get, but I'm not so sure I'm ready for Wednesday's big test...
So my parents said I couldn't have an FB until I got my grades up, saying by the next report card, they'd think about it. This means I must now confront that girl I told you about, ask her if she still wants to be FB friends, hope she says yes, tell her I may get one soon and ask if we can just e-mail back and forth as a start :P
So I suppose you can ignore my excess rambling (Xigbar Moment XD) and just read/answer my questions... Or you could read the whole thing...
DoorToNothing — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven!
And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 10:15, January 3, 2010 (UTC)
Since BebopKate probably has "normal" sleep patterns, I'll take care of your questions:
Just Staff can update Roxas's Diary. Does it not say that on the page? If not, I'll add it.
Yes, just like how Template:Spoiler 358/2 Days existed especially for Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days, Template:Spoiler Birth exists especially for Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep. Don't apply it yet, though, as the information released so far has just been Nomura's foreshadowing and gameplay elements.
Actually, BebopKate, I want to know what the point is in having unique spoiler templates just for Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep and Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days, whereas we treat several games with just one spoiler template. Personally, I would prefer for all spoiler templates to be the same.
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...02:28, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
Sleep? What's sleep? ^_^
DTN answered both wiki questions, and to answer his question, I honestly have no clue why, and I kind of agree.
To answer your other questions, ENX: I remember it being a good book, though it's been ages, and I think you'll do fine, and awesome on the FB! If you need assistance, you know where to reach me. ^_^
Eternal Nothingness XIII - I'm not afraid of what the darkness holds now. Even if you do wrest control of my heart from me, even if you cast me into the deepest, darkest abyss, you'll never sway me from the one cause that pushes me to keep on fighting. Whatever the cost, I'm ready to pay it. TALK - There's darkness within me... So what does that matter? I know I'm strong enough to hold it back. — 00:32, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
Thanks to DTN for answering the questions. And thank you, Bebop for being so kind to me since my joining last summer... where does the time go?
I'll be sure to let you know if I need a hand :D
By the way, lovely talk bubbles you guys have got there. BebopKate's one is unusually blue ! ^_^
Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 02:29, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...{{{time}}}
Thank you. I changed it blue partially in celebration of Birth by Sleep and partially because blue is my favorite color and I haven't had a blue bubble yet.
DoorToNothing — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven!
And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 03:12, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
Oh, and here I was thinking that our good ol' BebopKate has gone colorblind, hahaha. I'll redirect the spoiler templates used for Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days to the original Spoiler template. If you could just delete the Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep spoiler template, that'd be great. Oh, and thanks for the arms on my Yellow Opera sprite; they look great!
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...03:16, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
Hey, my talk bubble doesn't have to match my sprite, y'know. ^_^ Thanks for taking care of the redirect, and you're quite welcome for the Yellow Opera fix.
I guess not, though I must say that a match would look oh so nice ^_^
EDIT 03:20, January 4, 2010 (UTC) : I just noticed that your introductory talk bubble has the word Allons-y in it. ^_^
Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 03:18, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...03:24, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
Figured you'd get a kick out of that. ^_^ David Tennant's version of the Doctor on Doctor Who uses it as one of his catchphrases. My current bubble quote is from him as well.
I see ! ^_^
I'm as good as new! All my functions have been restored! • TroisNyxÉtienne — 03:43, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
Hey, sorry if your too busy, but would you mind making an Archive picture for me? Post it on my talk page and some instructions on how I can put it up. All right, bye! EDIT: I don't really care about what the picture is, but try to make it all of the Organization XIII sitting on their chairs. Bye now, for real. (I hope.)
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...03:14, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
Hey there. ^_^ The person who made most of the nifty archive images for the editors (including mine) is actually Xiggie; you'll probably want to talk to him. My specialty is more sprite editing.
Blue Signature, if desired.
DoorToNothing — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven!
And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 00:39, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
As always, I've set you up with another custom signature, this time blue to match your talk template:
But wait, there's more! Since you have gone through several differently colored variations of your signature, it would be much better to save your signature in the same way that Yer mom and I do. By doing this, all of your signatures applied in the future will automatically change next time your signature is modified. It also prevents that very long string of coding that creates your custom signature from appearing. Simply follow the following steps:
Create the page User:BebopKate/Sig. In it, place the coding for your custom signature.
Create the page User:BebopKate/Autosig. In it, place the following content: {{User:BebopKate/Sig}}.
In your Preferences, insert the following content into the custom signature box: {{SUBST:User:BebopKate/Autosig}}
Just holler if you need any further assistance; but wait, there's even more! I tinkered around with your Kingdom Hearts Mobile Daisy sprite, and colored it up to match your talk bubble as well. Just as with the signature, feel free to use the image if desired. Due to my semi-humane obsession with have an image that faces the bubble, I also saved a reversed verson:
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...04:11, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
Oh, DTN, thank you so much! I was pondering recoloring Daisy, but I truly appreciate you doing it for me. In deference to you, I've put her facing the "right side." ^_^
Also, thank you for the sig and sig shortcuts. I was going to do this ages ago, but couldn't remember where you'd posted it to. More blue...hooray!
By the way, I sorta copied doing this because my old sig just randomly disappeared awhile ago. - HeartOfOblivion 04:32, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
Mission Dealies
Neumannz — Looks like I'm gonna have to jump...! TALK — I work alone! Except when I work with Xion...which is all the time.
— 05:19, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
Heys and yos, it's your friendly neighborhood NZ, offering my services with yon mission articles.
Having recently bought the guide for really no better reason than to help out around here [exasperated sigh], I can be very much helping with the nitty gritty details of the missions; bonus percentages, challenge mission criteria, and the like. Although, as I noticed while doing No. 49, the guide is not really very specific for walkthrough purposes, so, yeah. (And having lent out my Days to a friend, I can't go back and look myself.)
Anyway, I'm already doing some stuff here and there, though I am never sure whose toes I'm about to step on, so if you want to delegate some of the missions to me, I'd be happy to run them down, so to speak.
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...06:19, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
Pick what you like; I'm not picky and I wear steel-toed boots, so it's pretty hard to step on my toes. ^_^ I might go back through and pump up some of the walkthroughs or add any other missing info, but please feel free to add any info to any mission article; there are aspects I don't have and it would help me out greatly.
Mission Article Review
Hey Kate, sorry to bother you. I've been working on the Mission pages today: filling them in, and such, along with Neumannz and HeartOfOblivion correcting spelling errors, grammer, etc. I did not remove the "Under Construction" template because I would like you to review them and remove it if they meet the criteria. If you wouldn't mind that is, I'd appreciate it. Also, take your time on reviewing these, this is just to inform you of recently completed mission articles.
Xion4ever Who am I? — 00:43, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...01:58, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
They all look just fine to me; couldn't have done them better myself, honestly. You guys do fantastic work. ^_^
Thank you all so much; I really appreciate the help.
MoS Update
Eternal Nothingness XIII - You have to be strong. Strength of heart will carry you through the hardest of trials. TALK - What I do, I do for friendship. — 02:13, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
As I edited the Darkside article, I found several times that it was listed as a "he" or "his". Both terms are wrong. Heartless and Nobodies, as well as Unversed, are genderless, with the exception of Organization XIII. Below is an example talking about the Zip Slasher :
Enemies should also be classified as "it" and "its" in terms of possession.
YES : It uses a powerful slash attack
NO : "He uses a powerful slash attack
Organization XIII, as well as any named Heartless/Nobody with a given gender such as Xehanort's Heartless, is an exception to this rule
YES : Xemnas uses powerful slash attacks. He also wields Nothingness. OR Xehanort's Heartless is the main antagonist of Kingdom Hearts. He is dubbed the Seeker of Darkness
NO : Larxene is the only female in the Organization besides Xion. It, being a Nobody, has no heart.
Just keeping it generic, as I found this error several times. It's inevitable that this has happened/will happen in other articles, as well. If this isn't MoS-worthy, it should at least be brought to the editors' attention.
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...05:27, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
You make a good point. Add that one to the MoS, please, and a little reminder wouldn't hurt either.
Eternal Nothingness XIII - But why? Help me understand, Master Xehanort. What is it that I have failed to learn? TALK - What? How did I— What did I do? What did YOU do? — 10:15, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
ME editing the MoS? I'm honored :P However, what do you mean by "a little reminder"? Where do I put this? Under Enemies?
EDIT : Done. Not sure I did it correctly, so check it out. Also, I find an issue with the "Use 's vs. s'". As you (and now Azul) have stated, these are both correct. I suppose s' is used more frequently with possession, as the name isn't "Xemna" or "Roxa" or "Ventu", but just because it ticks a few users off doesn't make it MoS worthy, nor does it make us liable to arguing against the MLA Handbook.
EDIT 2 : Some more things to consider as I scanned articles for common errors :
All original terms are captiolized, such as "Drive Form/Gauge" and "Organization XIII"
Characters aren't exactly "killed", rather destroyed/eliminated (I suppose that's pretty much the same thing, but...
I don't know about that last one. I just don't like seeing "killed" in the article. Nobodies and Heartless, you could say, are inanimate objects, and you don't kill a lamp. That should hold true for all enemies, lesser or a character-Heartless/Nobody. When talking about human characters (Ansem the Wise), an alternate term should be used such as "annihilated", as "killed" seems to unprofessional and dark.
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...04:40, January 17, 2010 (UTC)
Ack, somehow I missed this last time out! Your additions look just fine. I do agree that annihilated or eliminated would be better choices for words, but that's a bit nitpicky to add to the Manual; my view is if someone really doesn't like it, it will eventually get changed. The original terms thing is a good reminder. If that gets to be a problem, we can take it one step further and make a Capitalization Guide. We did that over at White Wolf for some of the game lines and it's come in handy quite a few times.
As for the plural thing, granted you shouldn't argue with the MLA, but remember not everyone uses MLA either; I had to use APA standards while I was a teacher to present professional papers and presentations, for example. Ironic we teach MLA, but we don't actually use it. ^_^
Problem
Hey Kate, sorry to bother you. We have a problem here; please see this. This user has posted multipul comments on alot of users talkpages (mainly guys, but one to me >>). Anyways, this is very suspicious. Please, see the page and take the needed actions. This is not appropriate. Thanks!
Nevermind, Hex took care of it. Sorry for the bother!--Xion4ever 02:55, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
Excuse me, but judging from their edits, I suspect that thesethreeusers may be the same person. The unregistered contributor is obviously just zachdawg not signing in. But the check the edit history on Kingdom657's talk page, and you'll see that he only responded once, the following responses being made by zachdawg. I asked both about it, but only zachdawg has responded, denying that he has even heard of Kingdom657, which is clearly not true. Both Kingdom657 and the unregistered contributor have been adding speculation and nonsense to the articles like "Demyx is based on david bowie" in the trivia section.LapisScarab 20:48, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
Looks like Hexed tagged him first. Let us know if he manages to make any future appearances. BebopKate 02:51, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
Hey there, I am pleased to announce that the Days mission articles are finally complete! From the walkthroughs to the treasure tables, everything is included except for the videos (I'll find them later). Randomnessity and myself completed the last dozen earlier today. The only thing left is to remove the Under Construction templates (they start at mission 50). >_>--Xion4ever 00:29, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
You're Welcome
Neumannz — Looks like I'm gonna have to jump...! TALK — I work alone! Except when I work with Xion...which is all the time.
— 08:54, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
I'm very happy to help, sorry I wasn't around all day to lend a hand, it being Saturday and all. I'll see if I can't find some time to do a quick article runthrough to see if I can catch anything that's been missed.
You're Welcome(not from the same guy as above obviously)
You're welcome! It was bothering me that they were just a bunch of empty articles, so I enlisted xion for help(she may have ended doing more work than me) and we took it down. It was kind of fun.
About the "unidle hands". Nowadays, since the death of my slinky, I usually mess with Legos. Although after I've clicked them around for about a minute my mom gets ticked off and tells me to stop. The slinky was the way to go for me I guess. Also, I don't think I would have the patience to make a rubberband ball.
Heh, your too kind. No problem, just a way to help out the wiki. We'll finish reviewing them and I'll check the color coding for the treasure templates and such. Your welcome!
Xion4ever Who am I? — 17:10, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
Pages for Deletion
I haven't seen you online in a while, and I really miss you... I was hoping you could tend to the Pages for Deletion. If you come online, please do take a look.
Why did the Keyblade choose me? I have to know. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 04:06, January 17, 2010 (UTC)
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...04:30, January 17, 2010 (UTC)
Hey, TroisNyx. ^_^ I have been working on updating Item Synthesis stuff, but otherwise I'm backing off a little bit due to a) work, work, work; I'm trying to make up time so I can go to on a trip this weekend and b) keep as unspoiled as possible about Birth by Sleep. Looks like someone else got most of the stuff you needed, but you know where to reach me if you need me. ^_- How are things going for you? Are you up to anything big now?
Let's see... I've got :
law dissertations, which they gave in the middle of December. The teachers just had to make things difficult for us, see ? The last one is to be handed in this Tuesday.
KHFR's first anniversary is coming up on February 2nd, so we're in the midst of planning something special.
Over on Kingdom Hearts Fanon Wiki there's this guy who has been asking me the same question for eleven or twelve times on my talk page and I've really hit boiling point.
Friday marked 2 years on drums for me ^_^ Though I didn't know how to give myself a little reward for that occasion, so it passed like any other normal day.
But apart from that, it's all good. The one thing is that no matter how unspoiled I try to keep myself, I will still be spoiled anyway, because Unbirth gets all the spoilers before me and insists on showing them to me, so I can't do much :P
Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 04:42, January 17, 2010 (UTC)
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...05:33, January 17, 2010 (UTC)
Oh yeah, it has been a year for KHFR, hasn't it? Seems like it's been around longer. If you guys would like any "anniversary graphics" or need any other help, please let me know if there's anything I can do.
Good luck on your last dissertation. Law is a tough field no matter which country you're in. The closest I've come is playing Phoenix Wright. ^_^
Sweet ! ^_^ I'll think of something..... (Perhaps something for the Forumheader ? And I'm yet to think of more ideas...)
And Phoenix Wright : LOL ! :D Unbirth tells me the same thing too.
I'm as good as new! All my functions have been restored! • TroisNyxÉtienne — 06:24, January 17, 2010 (UTC)
TheLunarEclipse - Dont I even warrant a hello? TALK - Surely, you must have know this was going to happen.
Hey, I am new to Wikia, and I have been slowly getting used to this. I tried to edit Ansem, but I can't. I was trying to put on his appearance that during the part where he was murged into the World of Chaos, he is remarkably taller than when he is not merged to it. It appears that Sora, if measured from Ansem's feet, that he only comesup to Ansem's knee. If you don't mind, do you think you may be able to get someone or yourself to put it on for me. Thanks sooooo much for your help.
TheLunarEclipse - Dont I even warrant a hello? TALK - Surely, you must have know this was going to happen.
Hello, thank you for the help. Do you know why is was put under lock or something like that? Still thanks, now I can go back and put that in.
TheLunarEclipse - Dont I even warrant a hello? TALK - Surely, you must have know this was going to happen.
Hello, thanks again for your help. Yeah, I have heard of some of those even though I have only been on for a short time. Hey, can't you get put out for editing wars? See I tried reading most of the rule and I have gotten most of them in memory. I have "Got it memorized"^_^ see ya later.
Haute alerte
Thought I'd bring this user to your attention : Christopher wei. He's been removing stuff from the character sections of the worlds, and even after the 1st warning, he has still repeated his actions.
Please keep a tab on him. Thanks !
Today you will be examined for the Mark of Mastery. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 13:04, January 18, 2010 (UTC)
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...03:01, January 19, 2010 (UTC)
Kryten and Hexed nabbed him. What a busy little bee he was, too.
Indeed ; don't get ENX and I started on the things we had to do to keep him at bay.
There are some things even the stars cannot tell me. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 10:50, January 19, 2010 (UTC)
User Notice
KingdomKeyDarkside - So… You really do care about her. In that case, the answer is no. TALK - We don't accept resignations.14:19, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
A user by the name of User talk:S071084 has been removing details and shuffling things around in the world pages, Especially Twilight town. Can you keep an eye on him/her? Thanks!
would you mind...
KingdomKeyDarkside - A scattered dream that's like a far-off memory. A far off memory that's like a scattered dream. TALK - I want to line the pieces up, yours, and mine.03:54, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you, but would you mind coming onto the IRC? we need you and Kryten to express your opinion on something. DTN asked me to get you two. and please read this forum too, if you don't mind. Forum:User Talk Conversation
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...07:18, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
Apologies for being so late to the party; I went to my cousin's wedding this weekend. I've checked out the forum topic; thank you for letting me know about it.
KingdomKeyDarkside - A scattered dream that's like a far-off memory. A far off memory that's like a scattered dream. TALK - I want to line the pieces up, yours, and mine.07:37, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
Thank you very much. We (Myself, DTN, and many others) debated over this topic for at least an hour on the IRC, and have gotten nowhere due to a lack of moderator guidance. We would like very much if we could get your opinion and (possible) approval on what we agree is the best thing to do. We will be meeting on the IRC again today at 5PM US Central time. If you would not mind joining us to discuss this topic, we would appreciate it very much. And if you wouldn't mind telling KrytenKoro about this, he seems to have ignored the message I sent to him. We would value both of your opinions very much.
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...07:41, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
I have to go take care of my grandmother after work today, but I will try to drop by later if all possible.
KingdomKeyDarkside - A scattered dream that's like a far-off memory. A far off memory that's like a scattered dream. TALK - I want to line the pieces up, yours, and mine.07:43, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
Once again, thank you very much.
Administrators
TheLunarEclipse - "Light, give me power!" TALK - "I saved the world while eating a hamburger."
Hey, I was on the Jak and Daxter wiki, and it told you how you would be able to become an administrator. Is there anywhere on this wiki where it says that or can you tell me. Me and some of my friends were curious. Thanks and I do taekwondo. Your user page said you did Tai Chi. that is cool. See ya ^_^!
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...22:51, January 27, 2010 (UTC)
Hey, Zexion. We're not in any pressing need of administrators at the moment, but when we eventually will need them, we consider the editing jobs you've done and how you behave. If you're fairly mature and levelheaded and treat other users with respect, and a majority of your edits are good ones to the main wikispace articles, then that would put you under consideration in the future. If you have any more questions or need something clarified, let me know.
Taekwondo is fun to watch other people do, but it's too hard on my knees. More power to you! ^_^
TheLunarEclipse - "Light, give me power!" TALK - "I saved the world while eating a hamburger."
Yeah, didn't think that any positions were open. Thanks, I was really curious because I have another account on Jak and Daxter Wikia (they are in need of a MAJOR editing job) and it was telling you how to become an administrator and that got me curious. Oh, here is another silly question: why is it that there is no Xemnas administrator on the wiki. I mean, if it is because of the unlucky number thing, they can assign a Xion. Thanks for your help and I will see you later ^_^!
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...04:30, January 28, 2010 (UTC)
I can't remember who did the staff member/Organization XIII thing, but it is just for laughs, really. I'm presumably Larxene because she's the only female XIII member (or was at the time, anyway), and I'm the only female administrator. I know some got assigned since they were already being represented by those characters. Otherwise, it was up to whoever made the page.
DoorToNothing — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven!
And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 04:49, January 28, 2010 (UTC)
My hypothesis is that it would be unfair for any administrator or bureauocrat to be represented by Xemnas. Since Xemnas is the ruler of Organization XIII, we don't want it to seem as if there is one user in charge of the other staff members.
Affiliation
Eternal Nothingness XIII - You have to be strong. Strength of heart will carry you through the hardest of trials. TALK - What I do, I do for friendship. — 01:54, January 28, 2010 (UTC)
I'm extremely annoyed that my edits are shrinking (I leave with 5047, and come back to 5006...). I'm also extremely annoyed and worried about my grades and my parents' reactions to them. Apparently a B+ isn't good enough for them...
Anyways, back on track. I recently started the Kingdom Hearts Canon-Fanon Wiki (link found on my User Page), where I will be telling the story of and creating a game for the Keyblade War. If I got enough support, I wanted to send this to Square to see officialism. You're welcome to take a look around at what little I've accomplished so far, as well as get a gist for the plot, but I was hoping to, as the title implys, affiliate with the Wiki. This could be beneficial to me and, well, this Wiki, too :P
If this isn't possible, or you need more elaboration, all you need do is ask... Thanks :D
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...04:30, January 28, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, the mystery edit thing is driving others crazy. Just chalk it up to Wikia being Wikia, I guess.
The wiki looks interesting and a good start to a storyline; if you could get a bit more info on it, I sure we can affiliate. Don't neglect your schoolwork or anything, of course. ^_- Frankly, there are periods in my schooling I would have killed for a B+ ...
Eternal Nothingness XIII - Well, I got something out of it, too. I learned that you don't always have to bend the rules to reach your goals. TALK - Oy, sometimes you are such a girl. — 22:54, January 28, 2010 (UTC)
Well, I pretty much stunk! I got a C+ for the quarter in English (went up from my C-, which I only got because I bombed one big test), and got B's and C's, as well as one sub-confirmed A on my first ever mid-term exams.
I don't exactly have the time to contact Wikia at the moment, but I may get to it eventually. Thanks for the compliment, but what exactly do you mean by "more information?"
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...03:54, January 29, 2010 (UTC)
Just more detail. More characters, places, bits of the storyline. Good about the A, and at least your grade went up in English. Hang in there, ENX, and let me know if there's anything I can help you with.
Eternal Nothingness XIII - Well, I got something out of it, too. I learned that you don't always have to bend the rules to reach your goals. TALK - Oy, sometimes you are such a girl. — 11:50, January 29, 2010 (UTC)
Well, at least I haven't failed....yet :P
This will take quite a bit of time, considering it's only me editing the bloody thing. I'm working on Olympus right now, and it sure is harder than it looks :P
Not sure I'll need help in science anymore, considering my new teacher for the semester is a lot nicer and active, actually sort of funny. What he teaches actually sticks in my mind :P
Hello!
Hey. FinalMix+ here again. I was wondering about the Days project. Do you think I can sign up(I know you're part of this)? Ps: Reply on my talk page. FinalMix+ 03:22, March 14, 2010 (UTC)
Terra Fae Odosson - Urrgh...you have such strength, even at the mercy of your memory- TALK - If you continue to seek the girl, Naminé, the shackles will tighten, you'll lose your heart.... and end up becoming Marluxia's pawn!
I saw one your talk bubbles and had to come to your page. I love Doctor Who! That was hilarious. Vegtable! I also really like your userboxes. The Big Bang Theory one is awesome and wasn't the usesless project one for Lupin III? I got to see the movie just this week. It was great!
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...07:17, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
Ah, thank you! Indeed, the "useless object" is from Lupin III; Goemon is my favorite character. There are tons of Lupin movies and most of them are pretty good, but I like Castle of Cagliostro the best. Incidentally, you're welcome to "borrow" any of my non-Kingdom Hearts boxes if you like. If you need help with the code, let me know.
I know there are a couple of other Doctor Who fans around here; if you go in IRC, I'm sure you can start up a TARDIS based conversation no problem. ^_^
Terra Fae Odosson - Urrgh...you have such strength, even at the mercy of your memory- TALK - If you continue to seek the girl, Naminé, the shackles will tighten, you'll lose your heart.... and end up becoming Marluxia's pawn!
Sorry if I didn't reply. I only got to see Cagliostro actually. Are any other ones out on DVD? I really enjoyed that one. When we watched it I said to my friend oh he (Goemon) is on my team. I shall surely borrow a couple boxes then. Thanks you.
Go TARDIS!
Terra Fae Odosson - Urrgh...you have such strength, even at the mercy of your memory- TALK - If you continue to seek the girl, Naminé, the shackles will tighten, you'll lose your heart.... and end up becoming Marluxia's pawn!
You've seen The Hogfather? That quote is from the best part! I must say you are an awesome person with good taste!
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...06:17, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
I've read the book; I haven't watched the film all the way through, but I have gotten hold of it and will watch it one of these years. My favorite Lupin III flick after Cagliostro is The Fuma Conspiracy, which you would particularly enjoy as a Goemon fan. Not sure if it's still available, but if you can find it, it's worth a look. The second TV series is also quite well done.
Mobile Avatars
HeartofOblivionTalk to me! — There was something important... Oh yes! I've decided on the pancakes. Blueberry!
Can you get me some cotton candy? Blue, not PINK !!!! — 04:25, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
I know that the Kingdom Hearts Mobile Avatars is your project but while being stuck inside all day because of illness, I made some avatars that are not yet on your project page. I also made my new talk bubble image as you can see. I can upload them if you want to see them or you are fine with it but if you're not that's okay. I just wanted to let you know. I made these avatars:
Donald as Court Magician
Xehanort
Shadow
Minute Bomb
Search Ghost
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...06:39, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
Sure, go ahead. I look forward to seeing them. ^_^
HeartofOblivionTalk to me! — There was something important... Oh yes! I've decided on the pancakes. Blueberry!
Can you get me some cotton candy? Blue, not PINK !!!! — 13:11, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
Here they are!
HeartofOblivionTalk to me! — There was something important... Oh yes! I've decided on the pancakes. Blueberry!
Can you get me some cotton candy? Blue, not PINK !!!! — 22:44, January 27, 2010 (UTC)
Here are some more and these ones are the special Halloween ones. I didn't make these ones, they were taken from an image on the Mobile website.
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...22:52, January 27, 2010 (UTC)
To quote my future brother-in-law: "Awesomesauce!" I hadn't even seen the ghost or skeleton before. I'll add them shortly.
HeartofOblivionTalk to me! — There was something important... Oh yes! I've decided on the pancakes. Blueberry!
Can you get me some cotton candy? Blue, not PINK !!!! — 23:12, January 27, 2010 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. I would like to do the Dissidia ones but those are too difficult for me. Should the Avatars that were released after each coded episode should be on your page or not?
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...04:30, January 28, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, I've been kind of holding off on doing the Dissidia ones for the same reason. I'll get around to them eventually.
And yes, I'd love to have any other official avatars. I'll just make a coded section as well.
HeartofOblivionTalk to me! — There was something important... Oh yes! I've decided on the pancakes. Blueberry!
Can you get me some cotton candy? Blue, not PINK !!!! — 04:39, January 28, 2010 (UTC)
Well, the coded ones are all on the Mobile page. Here is my last batch for awhile. The only one I made was the hooded Organization member.
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...05:28, January 28, 2010 (UTC)
Wow, those are sweet! Where'd the Birth by Sleep ones come from?
They be added to the gallery.
HeartofOblivionTalk to me! — There was something important... Oh yes! I've decided on the pancakes. Blueberry!
Can you get me some cotton candy? Blue, not PINK !!!! — 05:33, January 28, 2010 (UTC)
They came from here! Unfortunately, Vanitas is hiding behind a tree... Shall I add the coded avatars or will you?
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...05:36, January 28, 2010 (UTC)
Ha! Vanitas is ninja! ^_^ Sure, go ahead and add the coded ones yourself if you like. I'm not sure exactly where they are on the page anyway, so we'll just cut out the middleman.
HeartofOblivionTalk to me! — There was something important... Oh yes! I've decided on the pancakes. Blueberry!
Can you get me some cotton candy? Blue, not PINK !!!! — 05:44, January 28, 2010 (UTC)
Done! I wonder if they will make a Master Xehanort avatar or the princesses besides Kairi.
I heard you had the same authortiy as KrytenKoro so can you remove my warning from DoorToNothing. I talk to DoorToNothing and he said he can't do anything about it but ask the administor. --Cococrash11 23:26, January 29, 2010 (UTC)Cococrash11
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...01:21, January 31, 2010 (UTC)
Which one? The one back from October? It's a bit long to be asking for that.
If you're concerned about its appearance, it looks like you're about due for an archiving anyway, and it will at least be off your main talk page. If you need help making an archive, please let one of us know.
Appearce? No I want the warning record gone. I mean at that time I had no idea how wiki works now I do. So can you please erase the record of the warning? Also its from October. --Cococrash11 08:17, January 31, 2010 (UTC)Cococrash11
Next time I will be carefull with the first warning thing. --Cococrash11 02:35, February 17, 2010 (UTC)Cococrash11
Remodelling of the MOS
We were supposed to remodel the MOS somewhere last October but it turns out that the games have been released before we deliberated on anything.
Please join me on this page and raise the issues that you believe need to be raised in the MOS, or anywhere at all.
TheLunarEclipse - "Why do you have the Keyblade?" TALK - "Because I wanted it!"
Hey, I was on the My Home page, and an annonymous contributor made an edit to Sora under the Back home section. He used the f bomb when in Kairi's letter it said One Sky, He put One ------ sky. Thought I should let you know and have a great rest of the weekend ^_^.
EDIT: Here is the ID:79.65.137.197. Xion4ever and Ultima have gotten him for cursing previously and actually I think Xion told him off for the one on Sora's page. Just thought you would like to know.
DOUBLE EDIT: Hey, XIon got him for the same word on the CHristmas Town page. Hmmmmmmmmm... How many edits will i make to this ^^_^
Woah easy there ZTG, you don't say I "told him off". I politely told him on his talkpage to quit swearing. Be careful what you say, okay? Also, you don't have to tell how many edits he is doing wrong; a simple link to the vandals page is enough.
Xion4ever Who am I? — 16:16, January 31, 2010 (UTC)
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...20:07, January 31, 2010 (UTC)
I'll keep an eye on him. If he does it again, let me know. That's his third warning, and that's a'bannin' for a bit.
ETA: And because I noticed I'd forgotten the language issue there, I added it to the Guide. A good reminder, if nothing else. ^_^
Synthesis articles
Please preserve the format that I've used on these pages; it is the same format that is used for item pages throughout the wiki, and putting it in a bullet format makes the page look even more empty.
If you want to discuss this, I'm available this weekend, but it took a lot of work to do and I'd like to get an agreement first.GloriousCHAOS! 07:43, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
I'm assuming this is about the Gear Component page, right? I actually found having the information clustered in one paragraph very hard to read, and not very well organized. In addition, I know we like to link to the proper article names as often as possible, but to include the full Mission name after every instance of a Component makes it even more awkward. It might also be wise to distinguish the Random Bonus items from the Clear Bonus items a little more directly instead of just throwing a percentage after the Randoms. If you're concerned about empty space, there are always tables, but I think it's more user-friendly to have it empty and readable than "full" and hard to pick out the information needed. BebopKate 08:56, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
Okay, so:
Use Mission number.
Specify random bonus
I'll fix that right away, could you see if it is still hard to read afterwards?GloriousCHAOS! 10:47, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
Ah, much better; that works quite nicely. I like how you separated the chests out from the bonuses, too. BebopKate 20:41, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
With the "Organization errands", our KH1 synthesis articles group stuff like that with Treasures, and they're essentially of the same nature - do a certain thing, get the item once. Clear bonuses, on the other hand, are farmable, like non-hostile enemy drops.
I went ahead and removed the game headers from Gear Component like you said, and I guess it would be logical to remove them from other "one-game only" synthesis items, though that's going to be FM, KH2FM, Days, and BBS only.
If the "Mission #" redirects are working, I don't think we need to hide the full title behind a pipe - besides, we should make sure they are working.
I would personally prefer "Clear bonus for Mission 32" (or "Random/MG clear bonus"), to fit with the tense of the other entries, if that's okay.GloriousCHAOS! 05:43, February 10, 2010 (UTC)
That's fine. I wasn't sure exactly which tense was being used, since these are new to the format. Good thought on the errands as well; I hadn't looked at them that way. If you've got a good directive article, I'd be glad to help you reformat the rest to fit in, and make sure new info is in the correct format as well. BebopKate 05:59, February 10, 2010 (UTC)
User avatar page
Hey. ^_^ If you've got nothing much up your sleeves, I'd like you to take a look at this.
Anything that tickles your fancy ?
EDIT 07:15, February 11, 2010 (UTC) : Also, if you've got nothing much up your sleeves, shall we meet on the IRC ?
Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 06:51, February 11, 2010 (UTC)
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...20:10, February 12, 2010 (UTC)
Hah...maaaaybe. ^_- You've been busy I see.
Also, I LOVE the banner you made for KHFR. Way better than anything I could come up with, and nice tribute to your editors.
I might drop into IRC tonight or tomorrow, as it will be the first day in a long time I don't have to a) work or b) hunt for affordable health insurance. This has been a long, long week.
Suhweet. Ping me when you're there. Because there's something I need to talk to you about, in private.
Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 03:17, February 13, 2010 (UTC)
Sora's Heartless
Do you think Sora's Heartless is a character in KHI? Before you replied read this:
At that time in KHI when Sora created Sora's Heartless he was falling into darkness and Sora's Heartless took control until Kairi bring Sora back. Sora even commented to Kairi that when he falls into darkness he lost feeling, forget everything and etc. So this proves Sora's Heartless took control when Sora falls into darkness. So Sora's Heartless is a real character.
So that means he is a character in KHI like Xehanort's Heartless. I mean we all know that Lingering Sentiment is Terra but with his soul but they are still diffrent. Sora's Heartless had Sora's Heart but covered with darkness. Its the same logic with Lingering Sentiment and Sora's Heartless.
So what do you think? --Cococrash11 05:00, February 13, 2010 (UTC)Cococrash11
It's safe to say your attitude ain't helping your case, sporty spice.
Enough. Let's wait for her response. I know how shrewd you are, and I know what you'd do, so I might as well put it to a complete stop. Sulumataengkudu ! 06:23, February 13, 2010 (UTC)
Response has been made on the talk page. I shall now take two aspirin and lie down...wow. BebopKate 18:51, February 13, 2010 (UTC)
Merci beaucoup ! ^_^ Now, I need to talk to you about something which has been bugging me... by any chance, are you on the IRC ? Sulumataengkudu ! 02:16, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
Videos and Deletions
Hey there, Kate. Would you mind see this (at the bottom)?
Xion4ever Who am I? — 17:14, February 13, 2010 (UTC)
Banning
TheLunarEclipse - "Then I shall make you see...that I am the cutest thing since the kitten!" TALK - My cuteness is overwhelming!
What the heck? why is it that on the Queen of Hearts banning template they put have a nice day.
It says: You have been banned from the Kingdom Hearts Wiki. Have a nice day. I can't understand it. Oh, I found this out while snooping around the block list ^_^
Yeah, seriously, the banning templates shouldn't have the line "(Please) have a nice day". It's total irony, and scathing irony for all of us.
There are some things even the stars cannot tell me. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 01:30, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
TheLunarEclipse - "Then I shall make you see...that I am the cutest thing since the kitten!" TALK - My cuteness is overwhelming!
It really is ironic like TNE said. I mean, who wants to be banned (not that anyone wants to be banned) but then told to have a nice day. How would someone have a nice day knowing they have been banned? It is strange sits back and eats a Ferrero Rocher yummy
I know that for the BBS remodel, I took out the "Have a nice day" phrase. What about the current templates ? Shall I proceed to remove that phrase ?
Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 01:51, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
TheLunarEclipse - "Then I shall make you see...that I am the cutest thing since the kitten!" TALK - My cuteness is overwhelming!
Personaly, yes. I mean seriously, who would want to be told have a nice day after being banned. It sounded good at the time, but we should think of the point of the person getting banned, and how silly (sorry for insulting it) it looks to other users that someone was banned and told to have a good day. Wow, I talk a lot about useless nonsence ^_^
@BebopKate : Green light ?
Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 02:09, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
TheLunarEclipse - "Then I shall make you see...that I am the cutest thing since the kitten!" TALK - My cuteness is overwhelming!
Did I forget to mention: I don't think she is on right now. Sorry for not saying earlier ='(
She mailed me not very long ago !
This monster... This is no Unversed. Just a dweller of Darkness. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 02:50, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
TheLunarEclipse - "Then I shall make you see...that I am the cutest thing since the kitten!" TALK - My cuteness is overwhelming!
My bad! Still I found it, I want to do it. Kidding, TNE, can you if BbK says go?
Mm, why not.
Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 03:34, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...03:59, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, I totally missed this. My page has been a bit busy as of late.
Yes, please go ahead and remove those things. No reason to be nasty.
Hey there...
Hey there, Kate. Sorry to bother you, again. Prepare the tylenol ^^; Edit, please.
Xion4ever Who am I? — 02:53, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
TheLunarEclipse - "Then I shall make you see...that I am the cutest thing since the kitten!" TALK - My cuteness is overwhelming!
Funny, I was just on that page about 5 minutes before you posted the comment ^_^.
You reminded me
TheLunarEclipse - "Then I shall make you see...that I am the cutest thing since the kitten!" TALK - My cuteness is overwhelming!
The person you just warned about editing wars was doing that to me with Ven's page. He tried to change the beginning to say the connection between him and Sora was explained in BbS, and I kept changing it back to It is explained in the end. Still, I just wanted to bring it to your attention. It is over now so... Do you like McDonald's breakfasts?
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...03:55, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for letting me know; if there are any further problems, I'd like to hear about them.
Strangely, I haven't eaten at a McDonald's in seven years. But I do like breakfast...
TheLunarEclipse - "Then I shall make you see...that I am the cutest thing since the kitten!" TALK - My cuteness is overwhelming!
7 YEARS! Dang, I just went there this morning with my family. Their Sausage and Egg mcmuffins are the best! Yes, I do agree with you there, breakfast is good. Even though I normally forget to eat it ^_^. Oh, and sorry for undoing the edit you put saying warning 2 on his page. I was trying to get to my home, and I am used to clicking undo, and accidentially clicked it. Still I am sorry and reverted it. I got to use undo again ^_^!
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...04:10, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
It's cool; thanks for fixing it. ^_^
TheLunarEclipse - "Then I shall make you see...that I am the cutest thing since the kitten!" TALK - My cuteness is overwhelming!
Good, I thought "I better fix it fast, I am going to have a warning on my face!" No I didn't mean to, but I did get to press my favorite button again: the undo one! Yay!
Policy on Edit Warring
Eternal Nothingness XIII - What have I done... Master... I just... wanted to keep Ven safe. TALK - I can never return home now. I'm a failure. — 05:12, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
Hello, BebopKate. I have a question for you. What is the Wiki's policy on edit warring? The only reason I ask is because DTN delivered me my first warning when the situation was rather pointless.
This morning, I removed "Playing as" sections of articles and moved them to Mission Mode, where they were better set.
Werehog21 (the other user got warned for the same thing as I) reverted this.
To avoid redundancy, I had to undo his edit.
He undid it
I had to undo it to remove the redundancy
I get the warning.
I don't see how this is in any way fair, considering it was only a small scale of three edits, and it stopped right after. If you could please enlighten me, and if you can, remove the cruddy warning, then that'd be much appreciated.
LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
I was watching this, and I don't think a warning was in any way warranted on either side. Werehog stopped changing it once ENX told him why he was doing it, unless I'm mistaken.
Eternal Nothingness XIII - The three of us can never be torn apart, all right? I'll always find a way. TALK - When I really need you, Ven, I know you'll be there. — 05:20, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for being on my side, Lapis. Yes, that is correct. DTN's warning was senseless, especially in such a small ordeal. His "I think two reverts on either side is counted as warring" is just nonsense he came up with, the "I think" automatically proving it was just opinion. What should have been done was the reception of a "Be careful!" talk bubble messsage instead. The warning was uncalled for. An example of a true edit war would be what took place on Master Eraqus and Vanitas's pages a while back.
My stance on the issue : COULDN'T SOMEONE HAVE INVESTIGATED BEFOREHAND ?
Until and unless we fully know the situation, we can't slap out warnings. I believe this is something we should all know already.
But I've learned that deep down, there's a light that never goes out! • TroisNyxÉtienne — 05:23, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
Eternal Nothingness XIII - You may be my Master. But I will not... let you hurt my friend! TALK - The darkness...will never have me! — 05:25, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
I'm just as upset as you are, TNE. And it pains me to see that this was again started by a very very SMALL conflict due to the rash nature of a few certain users. To see what happened, check Saïx's history.
I'm on it. Kate, I'll still need you to help us on this one.
There are some things even the stars cannot tell me. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 05:35, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
DTN pointed out that Werehog just as easily could have stopped reverting the edits because of the warning... but due to how swiftly the warning was placed (almost immediately after ENX gave his reasoning) there's no real way of knowing what stopped it. Our policy is to assume good faith, no? So I still think both warnings should be removed.
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...21:01, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
I had a question for DTN; when he answers it, I'll see what goes on from there.
Eternal Nothingness XIII - What have I done... Master... I just... wanted to keep Ven safe. TALK - I can never return home now. I'm a failure. — 01:44, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
Hello again, Bebop. Regarding this issue : So it was a seven minute time span between the end of DTN's so-called "war" and the warning reception. Considering it stopped after the explanation, which was given clearly before the warning during which "wars" stopped, I see no purpose for the warning to remain. Whether you've seen DTN's response or not, it was given unjustly and rough patches between DTN and myself clouded his vision in this matter, at least that's my personal opinion. The verdict : The warning should be removed; it was given well after any potential conflict stopped.
I really don't want to get on anyone's bad side, and I really don't want an unjust warning scarring my perfect reception, especially when a more peaceful resolve could have been taken. Please either enlighten me for the future as best as possible, or just get rid of the damn thing so I can finally think straight.
YEAH, MY ORDERS ARE THAT THEY'RE COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT, AND WHO CARES ABOUT THEM. — 02:10, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
Hullo, I happened to be lurking when I found this. Anyways, there is a reason for that warning to stay. A "war" is a war, win or lose, both (or all) sides are wrong for being in it.
What I'm trying to say is that you picked a fight here, you got slapped; it's reasonable. This situation could have been handled differently than having your "edit war" (e.g. diplomatically discussing it on yours or Werehog21's talk page) so neither of you would have to deal with a warning on your pages. But it's too late now; you picked your little fight and you end up with that.
Besides, it's just a little warning, it's not like it'll do you any harm for real. Just get used to it... I guess. >.>
Lemme get this straight, people. If I were to undo, for example, Cococrash's edits for the same reason, would I end up with a warning ? No. Most probably not.
If I were to assign SSC, for example, to pick out a particular person who's relatively new and starting conflict on the page itself, and SSC does the same thing to that user, there's no likelihood of him getting the warning.
I believe this whole matter has been blown slightly out of proportion. Consider the two examples I gave and you'll all understand.
Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 02:17, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
SSC, have you cared to look at the edit history of Saix's page? Does reverting two, two edits constitute and edit war. I think not. It was a misunderstanding on Werehog's part as to why the "Playing as..." sections were removed, and it ended when he learned why. I was not aware that there was such a large time gap between the last edit and the warnings, and it seems unlikely to me that the issue was going t flare up again. Cliff notes version: the warning wasn't warranted.
Underlying Issues
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...06:49, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
Okay, wow. Everyone take a step back here.
First, I do want to say I'm not really sure anyone used their best judgment here. Yes, ENX probably should have raised the issue on the Talk Page. Likewise, DTN could have asked ENX or Werehog what was going on or given them a good faith warning, a subject that we've beaten to death in the forums. And I'm not really sure why I have an entire discussion going on here with members who weren't even involved...ahem.
But anyway, I would also be naive not to note this also part of an underlying tension between DTN and ENX; up until now, I've been too polite to say anything about it, as have a number of other editors. But I think something needs to be said before it boils over into something ugly and we lose one or both of our outstanding contributors over something silly and petty.
ENX and DTN, I've talked to both of you extensively outside of the wiki. You are both intelligent guys who are dedicated to the work you do here and elsewhere. You've both impressed me with your desire to improve things around the wiki, and with your real-life accomplishments. There are some differences in your ages and backgrounds, but ultimately I find the whole tension a bit ironic considering how alike both of you really are in terms of personality ... or perhaps its because of how alike you are. I honestly think both of you need to sit down and talk things out with each other. If you'd like to one day over in IRC, I know I would be willing to mediate if you feel uncomfortable doing so, or if you'd rather have someone else, that would be fine as well. And I don't expect the two of you to become best friends or anything, but just find a mutual area of respect.
But what it comes down to is I don't want to lose two great editors, and more importantly, two good online friends, over a silly wiki about a video game.
I'm going to head to bed soon, and I'd like to give the two of you a chance to really think things over about what's going on, remembering that there is a real person involved on the other side of that talk bubble. If you guys have any questions or comments, leave them here and I'll look them over when I get back from work.
Eternal Nothingness XIII - Ven, Aqua... I'll find some way to make things right. TALK - This light... it's so warm. — 07:12, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
Let me apologize first-hand for any spam to BebopKate's talk page. That was a sin even of itself. To Wikians supporting me in this matter, it was appreciated, but this really wasn't the place. To BebopKate herself, I have been discussing stresses with Troisnyxetienne and Xion4ever for some time now about this issue regarding my standard with DTN. I'd love nothing more than for this to cease. It's simply a matter of actually getting it to. DTN and I are both stubborn by nature, it would appear, and we're not exactly "forgiving" of each other. DTN and I should still hold some sort of mediation, yet at the same time we should compromise in this situation : Remove the warning to make me happy, while at the same time, DTN has assurance that I'll be more careful. Simple as that. So long as we both recognize our faults in the end, we can proceed in peace. If both were at fault, there's no reason why one side of the party should suffer.
Administrators
TheLunarEclipse - "Then I shall make you see...that I am the cutest thing since the kitten!" TALK - My cuteness is overwhelming!
Hey, I created my own wiki, and I want to assign an administrator, but I don't know how. Any help would be great!
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...21:59, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
Are you the wiki Bureaucrat? If so, you'll have to ask Bluer because it's a Bureaucrat's job and as I am a simple admin and have no bloody clue. ^_^
What's your wiki about, out of curiosity?
TheLunarEclipse - "Then I shall make you see...that I am the cutest thing since the kitten!" TALK - My cuteness is overwhelming!
First, I don't know what a Bureaucrat is. Second, I am the only one on the wiki. Thrid, Here is a link:
http://kingdomhearts3fan.wikia.com
It is a fanon like wiki. It is going to be for people to create their ideas on KH3, and post them to let everyone see. I will ask Bluer for that though ^_^
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...22:11, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
Ah, looks cool. ^_^ But yeah, Bluer knows more about the rest than me; he'll help you out, I'm sure.
TheLunarEclipse - "Then I shall make you see...that I am the cutest thing since the kitten!" TALK - My cuteness is overwhelming!
Yeah, He hasn't replied yet. How many are there? Thanks for commenting, but you know it is awefull... for right now! See you later and it is Dan's birthday today!
ISNB
Eternal Nothingness XIII - You have to be strong. Strength of heart will carry you through the hardest of trials. TALK - What I do, I do for friendship. — 22:06, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
Hey, Bebop. Thanks for your support. Would you mind telling me what an ISNB is? I also need to talk with you on the IRC at your earliest convenience.
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...22:26, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
I'm actually there now, if you'd like to join our conversation on Final Fantasy XIII perfume. ^_^
Eternal Nothingness XIII - You have to be strong. Strength of heart will carry you through the hardest of trials. TALK - What I do, I do for friendship. — 06:30, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
Could we try again? I had something to do at church that my parents neglected to tell me about >_>
ummm
Kate dtn says i can't add them reason is this
[16:58] <DTN> Are you adding those images to BebopKate's gallery?
[16:58] <wolf5000> yes
[16:58] <DTN> You need to stop, those aren't official.
[16:58] <wolf5000> ok sorry
[16:58] <DTN> Thank you, you may also want to remove those that you have added and nominate them for deletion, unless if you wish to use them in your talk template on the Kingdom Hearts Wiki.
[16:59] <wolf5000> i will get rid of them
[17:02] <wolf5000> no i will use them
[17:02] <DTN> Alright, but remove them from BebopKate's gallery.
[17:02] <wolf5000> done
[17:03] <wolf5000> does it matter that she said i could?
[17:04] <DTN> However, those aren't official.
[17:04] <DTN> For example, your images have the "jpg effect", and that is not in her official sprites.
[17:04] <DTN> But if she said you could, then you should just talk to her about it. thats what he said.--ZACH 00:09, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
DoorToNothing — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven!
And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 01:29, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
For the sake of being able to understand this, I adding <br> tags.
nope i'm 11ZACH 06:13, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
k...ZACH 06:21, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
ok...ZACH 06:26, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
Zach, how do I possibly deal with a situation like this... Sulumataengkudu ! 06:28, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
I think we've managed to work something out, Troisnyx. BebopKate 06:51, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
Nitrous X Talk! — Then I shall make you see...That your hopes are nothing. Nothing but a mere illusion!
Don't I even warrant a hello, Lexaeus?
So sorry to stress an already brought up issue, but it had to be done. I was wondering if you had made a decision on taking off ENX's warning or not. (He's a good friend of mine, and I hate to see him depressed). DTN himself stated that edit-warring is defined as reverting an edit 3 times in the same day. ENX only did so twice, so I believe that's justification enough for taking off that warning. What do you think?
EDIT: It has come to my attention that I may have slightly misquoted DTN. For the purpose of clarification, I have copied and pasted his exact words. Sorry for the inconvienience to you, Kate and you, DTN.
DTN said: "Also, are you aware of the "Three Revert Rule", derived from our model wiki, Wikipedia? The Three Revert Rule states that a user should not revert more than three edits on article on any one day. If they do, then the user is definitely considered to be edit warring. Now, this means that it should be plainly obvious that an edit war is taking place once three edits have been reverted by both parties to all users, particularly due to the word "definitely". Any user has the right to judge when they think the revisions have gone "over the top". I saw this case as one of those, since neither side showed any sign of backing down. EternalNothingnessXIII's final comment even began with an agressive statement. You claim that his reasoning made Werehog21 stop, but you really have no confirmation of that. The reason may just as well have been the warning I placed on his talk page."
I saw ENX's last comment and I did not find it to be agressive. Also, it is mentioned that neither one showed sign of backing down, however the warnings were delivered seven minutes after the alleged "edit war" stopped.
URGENT!
Eternal Nothingness XIII - What have I done... Master... I just... wanted to keep Ven safe. TALK - I can never return home now. I'm a failure. — 00:09, February 19, 2010 (UTC)
It has come to my attention that something has transpired on the IRC Channel that needs your attention. It involves many of our best users, and was almost a punishment-deserving affair at the hands of others. Please come on the IRC at your earliest convenience so we may discuss this in a mandatory conversation.
Pathetic.
Have you seen DTN's userpage ? >_>
Why did the Keyblade choose me? I have to know. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 00:55, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...03:55, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
I have.
I'm sorry he felt it had to come to this.
There anything we can do to get him back ? I mean, it was all because of a warning...
Why did the Keyblade choose me? I have to know. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 11:23, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
Meet
TheLunarEclipse - "Then I shall make you see...that I am the cutest thing since the kitten!" TALK - My cuteness is overwhelming!
Meet me on the IRC as soon as possible please. It isn't too urgent, I don't want anyone else knowing about it though! Have a good day!
That wasn't very nice and infact childish
To tell the truth I've seen the drama with Amelia and its childish. My IP address was 121.220.218.126 . I was scared to tell anyone the truth. I was wrong and I'm sorry! I didn't know it would end up so big. I just imitated what Amy did and wrote lies! Please unblock her. It was my fault. Please don't block me. Jacob 11:26, February 21, 2010 (UTC)
Uh-uh. No. I'm not doing this sockpuppet garbage again.
If you even want to think of coming back, Amy, you need show you're a lot more mature than trying to pull that bull again. You'd better be ready to apologize to a lot of people, and you'd better be ready to act in a responsible manner. And what you're trying to do up there ain't going to cut it.
You know how to reach me if you are serious. But I'm going to flat out tell you that what you've just attempted has already cast serious doubts on your intentions. BebopKate 06:06, February 22, 2010 (UTC)
Just letting you know, Kate, but "Jacob"'s username is actually ArchieAndrewfan3001. He's been causing a few minor issues.--Lapis ofthe Night 06:14, February 22, 2010 (UTC)
Oh, I know exactly who it was. That little History link up there comes in quite handy. I appreciate the help though, Lapis.
And the issues are short-lived; s/he's been blocked. The post on Andrewrox's page speaks volumes as to my suspicions as well. BebopKate 06:18, February 22, 2010 (UTC)
Lux
Just dropping in to decategorize your talk page from "User templates". BLUER一番 01:40, March 1, 2010 (UTC)
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...23:12, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
Hi, Auror. Is this about the image issue on your talk page?
If you're new to wiki editing, the best thing I can advise is to ease into it. Fix little things like spelling or grammar, ask around if anything is needed, or get involved in an ongoing project. Also, just look around the wiki to see what we already offer. This will help you see how things are organized and help you practice the skills to tackle the bigger projects.
If you haven't already, I also advise you to look through the Guide For New Members, which links to our more helpful pages, guidelines, and rules. It might give you a better idea of what to do and save you a lot of heartache.
I hope this helps. If you have any other questions, let me know. ^_^
Sorry about last night, gotta love parents rules about school nights; especially since you came on shortly after I left. >> Saturday should work, I'll be on the IRC all day (unless something pops up, which I seriously doubt). Don't take this as an emergency, although its important, don't let it interrupt the real life. ^^
UxieLover1994 Tiempo de morder de nuevo con el poder! El tema de hoy: su sorpresa! — 03:51, March 7, 2010 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you, but there is a video I love so much, that I want to put on my page. But there is a problem: the person who created it was called AmyRoseCotton. I thought I might get into much trouble since you guys hate him after what he did. Is it okay if I put it on my page, despite the fact that it was created by a vandaliser?
Also, don't be upset, but my first name is acturly Amelia, but everyone calls me Amy.
E-mail
Eternal Nothingness XIII - You have to be strong. Strength of heart will carry you through the hardest of trials. TALK - What I do, I do for friendship. — 22:48, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
Hey, my friend. I feel so good right now! Quinton Flynn said he'd voice Reno in my Kingdom Hearts game! Not to mention I made it on the Featured Users List and all that! What was awkward was I got a fortune cookie the other day saying This year will bring you much happiness. Now I just need that girl I like to return my feelings :P
So now that I have your e-mail, I decided to stalk you, and sent you one last night about an important issue that arose on the IRC. Please check it now just as an FYI. Thanks :D
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...22:51, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
Ah, must have come in late. I'll go check it out. ^_^
Talk Page
Hi there. This message is not meant to offend you and I'm terribly sorry if it does. I was just wondering, if you are THAT old (no offence), how come you are playing KH? Ps: Reply on my talk page. FinalMix+ 04:28, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
06:33, March 17, 2010 (UTC) - "Allow me to test your strength."
Hey there. I'm trying to find ways to get users to visit my user and talk page. It's pathetic, really. Any suggestions?
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...01:38, March 18, 2010 (UTC)
I've moved your new topics down here; it helps me if you create a new topic for each subject, rather than putting them under existing ones. It makes it easier for me to find.
We're not really supposed to use talk pages to socialize; that's really more suitable for the forums or IRC. This is a wiki, after all, not a social network.
But as anything, if you want to get noticed, make lots of constructive, useful edits to the mainspace articles. The editors who tend to get the most recognition are the ones who work the hardest.
Oathkeeper
Why did you remove those sections? The KH1 bit explains the significance of the keychain (which feeds into the meaning of the Keyblade, and its name), and the CoM bit explains why he doesn't have the Oathkeeper until after defeating the Darkside. Also, why did you remove the Thalassa shells bit?GloriousCHAOS! 08:01, March 18, 2010 (UTC)
I didn't actually remove anything from the KH1 bit, just rewrote it so it made more sense chronologically. The CoM bit honestly confused me, and I wasn't quite sure what it was doing there, but after your message, I went back and re-read it. I cleaned it up a bit so it's a little clearer how it relates to the article.
The Thalassa shell bit was purely accidental; I meant to link to the wiki page, but I must have accidentally missed the auto-link when I was looking up the proper article name. I've fixed that bit. BebopKate 04:30, March 20, 2010 (UTC)
Hey there
Sorry for the bother, would you mind seeing this? Thanks!
Excuse me, but would you mind blocking a vandal if you're on? Here they are: User:98.222.77.10 He deleted the whole content of Simulated Twilight Town to warn people that it will give your computer a virus (It won't). Thanks ZexionTheGamer 00:13, March 29, 2010 (UTC)
EDIT: Never mind.
IRC - Again
Eternal Nothingness XIII - The three of us can never be torn apart, all right? I'll always find a way. TALK - When I really need you, Ven, I know you'll be there. — 20:25, March 30, 2010 (UTC)
So can you, my friend?
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...21:54, March 31, 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, to miss you, old chum. I had to scurry off for a tick. I shall try to catch you another time.
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YEAH, MY ORDERS ARE THAT THEY'RE COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT, AND WHO CARES ABOUT THEM. — 02:10, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you, but there is a video I love so much, that I want to put on my page. But there is a problem: the person who created it was called AmyRoseCotton. I thought I might get into much trouble since you guys hate him after what he did. Is it okay if I put it on my page, despite the fact that it was created by a vandaliser?