User talk:EternalNothingnessXIII/Project BBS

Warning

I suggest using someone with a red background, as it is more alarming. Just wait until me and Ataradesu are done with some of the templates. - Ice boy^Svalur! 15:22, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

Eternal Nothingness XIII - You have to be strong. Strength of heart will carry you through the hardest of trials.
TALK - What I do, I do for friendship. — 15:33, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

Well, my other option was a black Master Xehanort. "Those who wield the darkness... Are not qualified to edit articles!" rather than "Wield the Keyblade...". Quotes can be decided later. We'll use Terra for something else, then. I plan to do templates now for every BBS character we have sprites for. What templates should be for :

Aqua

Terra

Ven

Isa

Braig

Ienzo

Lea

Master Erauqs

Xiggie ^{Buy / Sell} — Welcome! What do you wanna do?

_{Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— 15:52, December 30, 2009 (UTC)}

Actually... I think you should wait a bit... and don't use the templates by Maggosh and Lego Alchemist, as they are too different from the ones me and Ataradesu are gonna make...

Eternal Nothingness XIII - I'm not afraid of what the darkness holds now. Even if you do wrest control of my heart from me, even if you cast me into the deepest, darkest abyss, you'll never sway me from the one cause that pushes me to keep on fighting. Whatever the cost, I'm ready to pay it.
TALK - There's darkness within me... So what does that matter? I know I'm strong enough to hold it back. — 16:02, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

Well, I've separated the page into sections, and I've put up a few models of Talk Bubbles using Ataradesu's images. Let's utilize these pro images, and wait for the masters to finish with the others. I'd only use characters with renders. This would mean EVERY character from BBS, btw, if we want a complete archive...

Hi

D a n

- My friends are my power! ^{— 21:20, December 30, 2009 (UTC)}

Hi =) If you need some help with the project, I'll be active this week, as it's holiday time and all that. ^_^ I was thinking I could help with the quotes section. I could find a number of quotes for each character you're planning on making talk bubbles for, giving anyone who wants to use them a variety of quotes to choose from. Anyway, if you do need some help, my talk page is here, hidden at the back of the wiki, covered in dust and cobwebs. ^_^ Hope to hear from you soon! =D

Talk Bubbl,e Quotes

Eternal Nothingness XIII - You have to be strong. Strength of heart will carry you through the hardest of trials.
TALK - What I do, I do for friendship. — 23:12, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

For talk bubbles, what should we do if we have no quotes? Just add "__" and then their role? See Captain Dark's Talk Bubble as an example.

If I may...

maggosh ^{Strike backwards...} — "That's a nice expression."

_{You're terrified, aren't you?}

I have a few ideas.

Warning: Mickey: "The Keyblade isn’t something you use to hurt people!"
Warning: Captain Dark: "Follow the rules, rookie."
Bad Name: Peter Pan: "Who in the world is this?"
Unreleased: Ven: "Hearts that are scared will show you illusions."
Reconstruct/Structure: AtW: "Everything is born from sleep. Yes, even you..."

Eternal Nothingness XIII - You have to be strong. Strength of heart will carry you through the hardest of trials.
TALK - What I do, I do for friendship. — 01:46, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Nice ideas :D

Are these official quotes? We'd also implement some of these in the talk bubbles... Also, about the Minnie Template, doesn't Dale say the "against the rules" thing?

Why not create an example of those, maggosh? If you don't have a sandbox, feel free to test them out on mine. I already started a section for BBS Templates.

Xion 4 ever Who am I? ^{— 01:48, December 31, 2009 (UTC)}

maggosh ^{Strike backwards...} — "That's a nice expression."

_{You're terrified, aren't you?}

@ENX: The quotes are from Lissar's translation of the Jump Festa trailer.

@X4E: Thank you, I'll get on it.

maggosh ^{Strike backwards...} — "That's a nice expression."

_{You're terrified, aren't you?}

And they're done.

User:Xion4ever/Atelier#maggosh

More ideas

Not sure if these'll work, but here's what I've come up with for now :

You know the CGI renders of the protagonists'/antagonists' faces ? Or maybe their faces from clips, if the graphics are good enough ? These could qualify as emotions. I've put it on Xiggie's talk page as a proposition, but I'm not sure...
Please sprite images of Unversed too, once they're out ^_^ I know someone who'd be pleased !
I'm not sure whether we're lacking citations, but what if there are two citations for two different templates, by the same character ? It'd be weird to have Aqua on a Welcome template and a Warning II template, get the drift ? :P

That's it for now. I'll add on to the list if I can think of more. Agi Idup Agi Ngelaban ! 16:25, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. ^^ Need help finding any pictures, just tell me! About the concern of Aqua on a welcome and warning template: I think we should gather all of our template ideas here, then chose which ones will be used. The ones we decide not to use can be put on hold or used as a backup plan.

Also, this is from the first idea of the project but ENX, maggosh and myself have created some templates here. Two of those templates have been given the green light to use once the wiki changes to the BBS theme- the Welcome templates. Discussion about the welcome templates have taken here at the bottom of the page. I created the Welcome templates spur of the moment- comments would be appreciated! Nice job guys!--Xion4 ever 16:48, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

I'll be working on improved versions perhaps. ^_^ Agi Idup Agi Ngelaban ! 06:02, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

How about this for the expansion template. I know it is stupid but it is an idea--Xabryn 22:12, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Not bad ! ^^ I've always had a penchant for Vanitas after hearing his high-pitched laugh. Agi Idup Agi Ngelaban ! 00:14, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

The warning tamplates....

LegoAlchemist - They changed "Snipe Magnet" to "Magnet Grab"? Who's translating this game, 4kids?
TALK - Friendships are in direct contravention of mercenary conduct as delineated in your contracts, and on a personal note: I am very, very, disappointed with you.

You know.... there's something about the warning templates that isn't... right.

They just don't have the same ferocity or power as the old ones do... Minnie mouse and chip just don't really work for warnings...

I know, but do you want to just chide the person on the first warning or do you want to yell at him for the first warning ? By the way, that was Warning I. Warning II would obviously need more ferocity than the first, and Warning III would need more ferocity than Warning II.

Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • Trois Nyx Étienne — 03:07, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

LegoAlchemist - They changed "Snipe Magnet" to "Magnet Grab"? Who's translating this game, 4kids?
TALK - Friendships are in direct contravention of mercenary conduct as delineated in your contracts, and on a personal note: I am very, very, disappointed with you.

I umderstand what you mean. I'm just looking through the eyes of a ~~vandal~~ new user who sees this on their talk page. I wouldn't take it all that seriously, that's all:

Well, like, say, if we're considering both the Warning II templates as ideas (Aqua and Terra), we could, perhaps take them, instead of the Warning I templates. What do you think ?

Man, I need wiki consensus.

Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • Trois Nyx Étienne — 00:53, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

LegoAlchemist - They changed "Snipe Magnet" to "Magnet Grab"? Who's translating this game, 4kids?
TALK - Friendships are in direct contravention of mercenary conduct as delineated in your contracts, and on a personal note: I am very, very, disappointed with you.

Yeah, I think Aqua and Terra might do a bit better. I mean, there's nothing wrong with Minnie and Chip (or is it Dale?), they're just not that intimidating.

Understandable :P Aqua and Terra it is, then. Shall we use the angry Aqua/Terra faces, or the normal ones ?

I'm as good as new! All my functions have been restored! • Trois Nyx Étienne — 11:23, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

I say we use the angry ones. Nothing expresses the posters' feelings better than the correct image. Similar to the images we use in our talkbubbles. A reader can normally tell (and looks) at the image first, foreshadowing how the message will read. So: an angry image foreshadows an angry response.

Xion 4 ever Who am I? ^{— 01:54, January 21, 2010 (UTC)}

Something like this. (P.S. This is just for demonstration purposes only.)

But I've learned that deep down, there's a light that never goes out! • Trois Nyx Étienne — 07:44, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yea, or something similar (so as not to "steal" your emotion images).

Xion 4 ever Who am I? ^{— 20:01, January 24, 2010 (UTC)}

Steal ? I think they're all in the public domain :P So they can be used at will, just like the Chain of Memories or Days sprites.

So guys, let's get this show on the road already ! ^_^

I'm as good as new! All my functions have been restored! • Trois Nyx Étienne — 00:43, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

I guess..

The question is, where to start? Should we start ~~elminating~~ choosing the warning templates we'd like to use first? Or what?

Xion 4 ever Who am I? ^{— 00:51, January 25, 2010 (UTC)}

We finalise what we need to use at least for the warning templates/maintenance templates and sutff. We get the necessary emotion sprites and the necessary characters. I'll work on the talk templates, as I've got a chockful to bring back from KHFR ^_^. And once we're all done, we await the 14th of May !

Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • Trois Nyx Étienne — 00:59, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Alrighty then, sounds like a plan. Not sure what I can do.. But for starters, I'll go around making sure we didn't miss any BBS talkbubble images (I know theres some Terra images flying around); I'll add them to the Images to Use section.

Xion 4 ever Who am I? ^{— 01:49, January 25, 2010 (UTC)}

HeartofOblivion ^{Talk to me!} — There was something important... Oh yes! I've decided on the pancakes. Blueberry!

_{Can you get me some cotton candy? Blue, not PINK !!!! — 02:08, January 25, 2010 (UTC)}

What's May 14th?

EDIT 02:10, January 25, 2010 (UTC): One question- There has been multiple uploads of the same character/similar image. Should I add those images in as well?

Example:

Our current Isa image to File:IsaTalk.png

Or images like Lea; we only have one normal text image of him, while there are other emotions for him created by another user, but have a different background. Images:

File:LeaTalk2.png Lea talk two

File:LeaTalkAngry.png Lea angry

File:LeaTalkHappy.png Lea happy

File:LeaTalkSad.png Lea sad

See?

@HOO: No idea..the American release date for BBS maybe?

Xion 4 ever Who am I? ^{— 02:10, January 25, 2010 (UTC)}

HeartofOblivion ^{Talk to me!} — There was something important... Oh yes! I've decided on the pancakes. Blueberry!

_{Can you get me some cotton candy? Blue, not PINK !!!! — 02:22, January 25, 2010 (UTC)}

THAT WOULD BE AMAZING! That's my birthday! If that's true, best birthday present ever!

Consensus ? We get on it right away !

And Xion : I'll have to remodel the backgrounds for Lea's avatars, I think. But I'll work on it when I have much less on my hands. ^_^

I'm as good as new! All my functions have been restored! • Trois Nyx Étienne — 11:32, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, thanks. Just wondering about the images and such. If I find anymore I'll add the links on this talkpage.

Xion 4 ever Who am I? ^{— 22:30, January 25, 2010 (UTC)}

LegoAlchemist - They changed "Snipe Magnet" to "Magnet Grab"? Who's translating this game, 4kids?
TALK - Friendships are in direct contravention of mercenary conduct as delineated in your contracts, and on a personal note: I am very, very, disappointed with you.

@TNE: I'll do it. I'm remaking all of the Lea emotions because they turned out ~~crappy~~ really bad.

Suhweet !

I'm as good as new! All my functions have been restored! • Trois Nyx Étienne — 06:04, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

LegoAlchemist - They changed "Snipe Magnet" to "Magnet Grab"? Who's translating this game, 4kids?
TALK - Friendships are in direct contravention of mercenary conduct as delineated in your contracts, and on a personal note: I am very, very, disappointed with you.

So I've got a little something here. All of the old Lea Talk Sprites were redone as seen above ^:

File:LeaTalk.png - Redid my original Lea Talk Sprite. I think it looks better.

File:LeaExpressionTalk1.png - A random emotion... whatever one wants to make of it

File:LeaExpressionTalk2.png - Same as above, though I really like this one

File:LeaExpressionTalk3.png - Same as above, really.

File:LeaDowncastTalk.png - Kind of a Downcast look, though if you look carefully, he's smiling...

That's all... I'm also ~~making~~ made Isa talk ones too, and if you want to see them, give me a shout.

Of course !

I'm as good as new! All my functions have been restored! • Trois Nyx Étienne — 13:36, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Wow nice job, Lego!

Also this maybe a trivial matter at the moment, please look at this, secifically the BBS talkbubble images. We already have numerous talkbubble images that are starting to become duplicates that aren't being used (see the two Ienzo images, for example). I am in no way saying we should stop creating the images, but at somepoint we'll have to go through and decide which images we want to keep and not. For example: Deleting the old Lea images I originally posted on here since Lego's current images are better.

Any thoughts?

Xion 4 ever Who am I? ^{— 14:29, January 31, 2010 (UTC)}

Yes, I believe we should keep the high quality ones, and those which look cropped and badly modified should be VFD'd.

Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • Trois Nyx Étienne — 14:41, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, then comes this question: When should we nominate them for deletion? Should we wait until Project BBS/the remodel is closed? Or nominate them now? My point is: We don't want to delete any images now that we think aren't needed/won't be used only to need them later. Regardless, I know we could delete some of the images now (the extra Ienzo image that isn't being used).

Xion 4 ever Who am I? ^{— 14:56, January 31, 2010 (UTC)}

Those which we are sure of VFDing now, let's VFD them. For the rest (if we're going to upload better quality versions of the sprites, for example), it's best to upload new versions of the file, rather than VFDing them outright. Like what LA did for Lea. I know that there are 2 versions of the Braig talk sprite, one from Days and one original (well, both photoshopped :P), and I don't know what to do in such cases.

Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • Trois Nyx Étienne — 15:05, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Deleted a few...

LegoAlchemist - They changed "Snipe Magnet" to "Magnet Grab"? Who's translating this game, 4kids?
TALK - Friendships are in direct contravention of mercenary conduct as delineated in your contracts, and on a personal note: I am very, very, disappointed with you.

(making it easier to edit section above) I went through some of my User Images and put a few up for deletion, mainly ones that are of bad quality, not needed here on the wiki, and duplicates of other images. Namely the Days Braig one, and the First Days Ienzo one I made.

Good work. ^_^

Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • Trois Nyx Étienne — 00:51, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Alright so the image situation is taken care of (pretty much). So now what? Do we start finalizing the warning templates or move onto something else?

Xion 4 ever Who am I? ^{— 01:07, February 1, 2010 (UTC)}

We finalise them, but what shall we move on to ?

EDIT 01:16, February 1, 2010 (UTC) : Oh, and remember : English release = HOO's birthday ! We have something special for him !

Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • Trois Nyx Étienne — 01:12, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Theres other templates we could look at, like navigation (spoilers, delete, etc.) The only templates we've been given the green light to use once the wiki changes to the BBS form are the welcome templates found here (at the bottom).

About HOO's birthday: No idea what we could do.. If BBS comes out on his birthday we could do something related (like a happy birthday template with a BBS theme). But I honestly have no idea..

Xion 4 ever Who am I? ^{— 01:21, February 1, 2010 (UTC)}

We'll think of something.

As for the welcome templates, I remember over the Dark Side :P I used Aqua's normal sprite as part of the welcome template. But our trend here is to add the artwork, so I'm not sure if there's a full artwork of TAV alone. I just saw the new Welcome Template, it looks lovely ^_^

I'm as good as new! All my functions have been restored! • Trois Nyx Étienne — 01:25, February 1, 2010 (UTC)