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KrytenKoro - "It's always best when the other chap is willing to die for his beliefs; you both have the same goal in mind." TALK -
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I've reached my tolerance limit for the spamming of talkboxes people are making.
We have people uploading up to forty or fifty fan-images for their talkboxes, images which they never use. Allowing these images for talkboxes was already a huge concession to our "No fanart" policy, and it is being viciously abused.
We have people making six to seven whole templates.
The entire thing has gotten unmanageable, and defeats the entire purpose of a talkbox, which is to enhance the identification of your user persona, making it easier for readers to tell who is saying what.
I propose that we only allow one talkbox template per user, and that it is allowed up to three fan-made images. Anyone who is in violation of that would then need to fix their main template, put up the extras for deletion, and go through each talk page they are listed on and correct the template-calls.
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SilverCrono Well, I can tell who you are. — "Lea, we have to go." "Well, I can tell you are." — 22:26, February 2, 2011 (UTC)
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Do you mean...different bubbles in a template? Or multiple template pages?
But yeah, while I see what you mean, I haven't seen it as a problem. The templates, I mean. The images are getting out of hand.
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DoorToNothing — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven! And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 22:30, February 2, 2011 (UTC)
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Amen. Hallelujah. Praise the Lor't.
Totally, completely agree. I am 100% fed up with not being to identify a user based on their talk template. Also, can we make it a rule that talk templates have to display the user's username? Having the name shown as "Roxas" or "Terra" doesn't help me, AT ALL.
And to everyone who is about to say, "NO WAY, THAT LIMITS MY FREEDOM AND EXPRESSION." Well, "expression" doesn't mean spamming the image database with images from oftentimes an entirely different franchise and confusing users with your multiple images. And honestly, if you can't find a way to express yourself with three sets of colors, multiple sets of quotes, images, and fonts... well, I kind of artistically pity you.
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Chitalian8 Say... — Only by allowing strangers in can we find new ways to be ourselves. Life's little crossroads are often as simple as the pull of a trigger. — 22:28, February 2, 2011 (UTC)
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Regarding your point on identifying the user, should it be mandatory for the name in your talkbox to be your actual username (See this template)?
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AS IF! You can talk all you want, but that won't change a thing.
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Deal! I'm all for it. Seriously, why do you even need six or seven templates? One per customer has always worked (except for maybe shoes...), so let's do it!
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Sorceror Nobody – The Supreme Nonentity User Talk · Sandbox · 358/2 Days Guide · 22:47, February 2, 2011 (UTC)
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Speaking as someone who does have multiple talk bubble images, I should first point out that if policy was changed so that they had to be externally hosted, I would happily do so. Just protecting myself from possible accusations of hypocrisy. Anyway...
I may not be particularly active on KHWiki, but whenever I do come on, it's sometimes hard to follow who's saying what. That's partly due to being unfamiliar with a lot of the users, since I'm not a regular, but it's clear that even regs are finding it to be an issue. When it comes to names, common sense demands EITHER
- The actual username
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- A very widely known nickname
OR
- A variant of the username or nickname that is obvious
If you want examples of the last option, two of my Mafia bubbles on the FFWiki are "Shantotto Nobody" and "Sarda Nobody".
Furthermore, with regards to the bubble images, they should all be a fixed width. On FFWiki, it's 60px, but I am informed that 70px is better here, given the prevalence of 358/2 Days talk portraits. In my case, that would involve a 10px buffer on my 60px images; a simple enough modification. Quite simply, the bubbles need consistent image widths so that the left-hand edges of the actual bubbles line up, because at the moment, THEY BURN THE EYES WITH THE UNEVENNESS AND THE MISALIGNMENT AND THE HUR-TING! *woo-hoy* </Frink>
Category: Suggestions
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DoorToNothing — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven! And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 22:56, February 2, 2011 (UTC)
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To clarify, the issue is with the number of fan-made images (mostly). The suggestion is that each user is allowed three fan-made images in their talk template. For example, in SilverCrono's talk template, there are three fan-made images: Vanitroll, specialized Saix, and Pyro. This would be the maximum; the Riku images are fine since they are official and wiki-hosted.
Also, the rule of One User, One Template has been overlooked. This means that each user gets ONE talk template page. If they want more talk "bubbles," then they need to add the code to their talk template page to add those. The code is available on most active users' templates, it really shouldn't be hard to just replace a few things to make it fit your needs.
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Neumannz — ATTENTION, DUELISTS! If you could all stop staring at my hair for a moment... TALK — Those child-grabbing classes were worth every penny!— 03:02, February 3, 2011 (UTC)
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We should ABSO-FUGGIN-LUTELY enforce the One User, One Template rule, as well as the inclusion of the username in the talk bubbles.
The images are another matter. DTN, do you mean that there should be a max of three fan-made images period, or just hosted on the wiki? I am also perfectly willing to move some or all of my images to private hosting.
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17master - Hey, guys, check out my new camera! TALK - Oh wait, this isn't a camera... - {{{time}}}
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Seeing Crono's said fan-art images are from private hosting, I think he means 3 fan-art only.
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Erry - Deep Drive TALK - Moon shine down. ~ 03:31, February 3, 2011 (UTC)
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I don't see a problem, with enforcing the 1 user, 1 template rule, I have about 6 on my page and it's going much better than having to go through various templates to find the right talk box. However, I think that images should be 3 maximum when hosted on the wiki. If they're private hosting, then it shouldn't matter at all, unless it's starting to get out of hand where they take wiki-hosted images and use them via private hosting, my template uses 4 private-hosted custom image talkboxes, it shouldn't be a problem if I add a few more like 2 or 3.
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