- We need someone to go through and make sure every enemy article has a design section, which should cover the appearance of the enemy, and the etymology of its name.
Signup
For any of you who decide to help - thank you in advance.
- DESIGN
- The Inexistent 23:26, May 16, 2010 (UTC)The_Inexistent
- LapisLazuliScarab20:52, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
- BebopKate 03:20, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
- DTN 03:50, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
- [Ѧüя◎ґ] I hope I have enough edits to partake.
- Dan - A FO BEN, BID BONT. 09:29, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
- maggosh 04:43, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
Discussion
What LS did at Shadow looks perfect to me. Does anyone else have any comments or critiques?Glorious CHAOS! 03:42, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
- It works for me; short and simple but detailed. Just bear in mind some etymologies
may will get much more complicated. And I assume if the Japanese version of the name is different, it would be appropriate to comment on that name as well? BebopKate 03:47, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
- Certainly.Glorious CHAOS! 04:29, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
- I've gone ahead and split this one off into it's own forum thread so we don't clog this one with organizational bits and pieces. BebopKate 02:50, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...02:49, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
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Alright, guys. Since we have quite a few volunteers for this project, I thought I'd just go ahead and pull it out of here and make a new topic for it. As a reminder of what we're doing ...
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We need someone to go through and make sure every enemy article has a design section, which should cover the appearance of the enemy, and the etymology of its name. (DESIGN)
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...02:49, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
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I'm thinking, similar to other similar projects, we need to make a list of who's doing what. I have a couple of ideas of how we can divide this up to make it easier for everyone:
1. Enemies by World - There's going to be a bit of overlap here, since some critters appear in more than one area, but there are also quite a few unique to their areas, enough that dividing it this way is not going to confuse everyone greatly.
2. Enemies by Game - So far, that would be Kingdom Hearts, Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories, et. al. My only concern is some people might feel a bit overwhelmed, unless a couple of us tackled each game at a time.
3. Enemies by Type - We have a few established Heartless-types, the black mage-esque ones being perhaps the most prominent. If someone wanted to snag all the Shadow-types, Soldier-types, etc, that could work.
4. A couple work on etymology, the others work on description - Just another idea to split the load.
So, my designing women friends, any input?
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I tend to be kind of haphazard in selecting the sections, and I already finished several that I haven't put up here yet. The ones I've finished so far are the Darkball, Gigas Shadow, Mega-Shadow, White Mushroom, Black Fungus, Rare Truffle, Pink Agaricus, Black Ballade, and Blue Rhapsody. Other than those, which I'll get up either today or tomorrow, I can take the Kingdom Hearts II Heartless if we orgnanize it by game. Though any way we organize it is fine with me. EDIT:'Kay, got those guys up.
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LapisScarab Good tidings, friends. Today is a momentous day. I am pleased to announce that a new comrade has been chosen to wear the coat. — 02:57, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
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Hey- I'll volunteer for enemies by type and etemology. The Inexistent 20:48, May 18, 2010 (UTC)The Inexistent
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...23:07, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
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Sounds like a good start. Lapis, if you'll take the KH2 Heartless, I'll snag the ones from the original game. That leaves CoM & Re:CoM (the few that exist), 358/2 Days, and the Final Mix+ from the appropriate games.
Inexistent, do you want to tackle any specific types to start with? Just realize there's probably going to be some overlap here and there. And also, if anyone is unsure of a etymology or having issues with a description, feel free to tag another project member, of course!
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KrytenKoro - Pinocchio with his nose attached to the trigger of a rifle, which points at his face as he says, "I want to live!" TALK -
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For etymologies to wikipedia or final fantasy, please remember to use the interwiki linking code (Ex. [[finalfantasy:article|article]]).
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Just a quick suggestion about our progress section. I think it would be easier to organize it by the game the enemy was introduced in. That way, we won't be repeating a lot of the Heartless' names, and we can checkthem easily by looking at the Heartless navigation box.LapisLazuliScarab03:50, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
You make a valid point. Sounds like a plan then. ^_^ BebopKate 04:18, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
Hey, I'd like to volunteer for filling in the etymology sections. Is what I did at Aquatank okay? Dan - A FO BEN, BID BONT. 09:27, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
Looks good to me LapisLazuliScarab20:40, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
Count me in! User:No.1xemnas/sig5:54, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
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LapisScarab Embrace... nothing! — 04:16, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
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Be sure to put your signature on the sign-up above, No.1xemnas, and let us know what you want to help with! By the way, The Graveyard and Toy Soldier are giving me a little trouble. I can't tell where the Heartless emblem is on the Graveyard, and I don't remember in detail what the two of them looked in their alternate forms. If anyone could get images of the alternate forms and put them in the gallery, that would be great. I'll save them for last, and if we don't get images, I'll just check KHII.
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Dan - My friends are my power! — 11:23, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
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I have some images that should clear the confusion (sorry for the horrible quality):
- Graveyard front view: [1] (That's a raven on the top, it got cut out, sorry ^_^)
- Graveyard back view: [2] (There's the emblem)
- The Toy Soldier has the same Jack-o-lantern as the Graveyard: [3]
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LapisScarab - Very good. You don't miss a thing. I cannot feel sorrow... No matter what misery befalls the worlds. No matter what you think, what you feel, or how you exist. TALK - Come closer...
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Thanks, and the quality is fine!
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LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
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I'm noticing that Heartless have a lot of common traits, despite how different they seem to look. Spherical heads that are usually dark-colored, yellow, circular eyes, jagged mouths, and some kind of curled antenna or horn. Just something I noticed. And on more constructive terms, does the Bolt Tower have a different Final Mix coloration?
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...05:50, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
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Indeed, I've noticed that as well as I've been writing descriptions; in spite of the fact they can look so dissimilar at first glance, they still have a unified appearance because of those little traits. Even ones without these immediately apparent will have them hidden somewhere; I'm particularly fond of the zig-zag filament in the Angel Star, for example, since it mirrors the standard Heartless jaw.
Come to think of it, the only ones with out the pointy jaws are the Mushrooms. I'm sure that's not by accident.
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Okay, finished the KHII enemies. I think I'll finish up the magic uing Heartless (Red Nocturne, etc.), and then I guess I'll move on to Days Heartless.
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LapisScarab Good tidings, friends. Today is a momentous day. I am pleased to announce that a new comrade has been chosen to wear the coat. — 03:29, May 27, 2010 (UTC)
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LapisScarab Embrace... nothing! — 02:05, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
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Something's just occurred to me. Should we make a design section for the Gummi ship enemies as well? We have pictures for most, if not all, of the KHII ones (albeit not all of them are great). Though we don't even have articles for the KHI enemies...
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...22:03, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
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Ooo, good thought, Lapis. I'll give them their own sections...
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LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
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Looking closer, I seem to have been grossly mistaken with the images. The U.F.O., Reaper's Wheel, Ring Tank, Hunter, Driller, Crawler, Cannon Ball, and Black Ghost all have decent images. The Core, Dragonfly, Grappler, Hunter X, Knight Head, and Mad Rider all need better ones. All others simply don't have images. Not to mention the fact that the KHI Gummi Enemies don't even have articles. I still think they should have design sections but it's looking like this is a project in its own right.
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FinalMix+ - "The X-Blade is created from our hearts!"
"If you destroy it, you'll be destroying your own heart!"
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To whom it may concern, I accidentally put my name under the design section when I wanted to sign up for the strategy part. I have already removed my name from this section. If anyone expected me to work on design, I sincerely apologise.
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'Tis fine, FinalMix+. We have a good group together as it is.LapisLazuliScarab06:14, June 1, 2010 (UTC)
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GrandUnversed - *wiggling noises* TALK - 00:19, January 16, 2010 (UTC)
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Wait, are Unversed out of the picture until the official English release? I already did the Appearance of the Cursed Carriage. I don't mean to sound like a noob or anything.
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...22:27, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
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Yeah, we really should wait on the Unversed until September; there will be name changes, and might be slight appearance changes between versions, like what happened with the Undead Pirates.
However, I'm not going to criticize work already done. ^_^
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GrandUnversed - *wiggling noises* TALK - 00:19, January 16, 2010 (UTC)
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Ah, I see. Well how's about this; I work on whichever ones I can for now, and go back and edit them come September. Unless, that is a problem of course. I have no problem backing off if it causes trouble for the site or staff.
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Dan - Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase! ♫ — 20:29, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
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About the Artful Flyer, Sky Grappler, Air Battler and Aerial Master's names being references to academic degrees, the only thing I can find so far is the "Master's degree"... I don't really think it's enough for an etymology...
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- In Japanese, they are the "Air Butler", "Aerial Master", and "Flying Arts" (grappler is it's own thing).
- Oh, wait. "Butler" isn't an alternative name for Bachelor's like I thought it was. Never mind.Glorious CHAOS! 02:51, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
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LapisScarab Embrace... nothing! — 15:37, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
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I think the Dustflier's name may be a reference to meteors, because of its meteor breath, which would make its Japanese name "Debrisflow" make more sensede, but I'm not too sure.
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I do believe I finished the Days Heartless (minus a couple of etymologies). Think now I'll go back and get the Final Mix appearances for the KHII Heartless that ShardofTruth uploaded. What should I do after that?
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LapisScarab Good tidings, friends. Today is a momentous day. I am pleased to announce that a new comrade has been chosen to wear the coat. — 05:32, June 11, 2010 (UTC)
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Dan - Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase! ♫ — 20:57, June 11, 2010 (UTC)
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I have a bit of spare time now, as I only have a couple of exams left, so over the next few days, I'll be combing through etymologies. Oh, and if anyone notices a Heartless that has a Design section, but is lacking an etymology, could you please add " - needs etymology" next to its name on the list? Thanks! =D
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- Um. Some of the etymologies, especially the KHIIFM ones, need quite a bit of editing.Glorious CHAOS! 01:55, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
- I've scanned through most of the etymologies, and I've reworded a few. Are there any other ones that need doing? Dan - A FO BEN, BID BONT. 09:35, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
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The Inexistent - Pitiful users, mindlessly collecting information. The rage of an edit releases this knowledge, and they all come together, to form: The Wiki!!! TALK - And on the Wiki these words appear: "My name is The_Inexistent, user of users: Look upon my edits, ye Mighty, and despair!"
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Wow, are we, like, done? Now what, do we wait to do the Unversed?
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LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
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I still have the remaining Final Mix and Boss Heartless to do, but those should be finished by tomorrow at the latest.
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Just a couple of etymologies left. Also, could someone else get the World of Chaos's description?
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LapisScarab Good tidings, friends. Today is a momentous day. I am pleased to announce that a new comrade has been chosen to wear the coat. — 03:06, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
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LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
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By the way, I'm prepariing descriptions for Unversed for when we start on them, so once BBS comes out we can get started again quickly.
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Status Update
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...20:38, June 11, 2010 (UTC)
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Okay, the way things appear to me:
- Kingdom Hearts: Basic enemy descriptions done, some bosses need filling in, some etymology needed.
- CoM/Re:CoM: Done.
- Kingdom Hearts II: Done.
- Final Mixes: Kingdom Hearts II descriptions done, some etymology needed. Kingdom Heart descriptions partially done, some etymology needed.
- 358/2 Days: Descriptions done, some etymology needed.
- Gummy Enemies and Birth by Sleep: On hold due to lack of info.
It really doesn't look like there's much more to go here. So if someone would like to fill in the missing stuff this weekend or in the upcoming week, we should have this all wrapped up! Great work, guys! ^_^
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GrandUnversed - *wiggling noises* TALK - 00:19, January 16, 2010 (UTC)
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Does the Sneak Army need etymology and design? I could handle that.
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GrandUnversed - *wiggling noises* TALK - 00:19, January 16, 2010 (UTC)
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Oh, and what Days enemies need etymology?
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LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
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Just as an update, I have descriptions prepared for all of the Unversed except for the Trinity Armor. As for the Sneak Army, go for it, GrandUnversed.
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LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
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So from what I can tell, the only non-Unversed and non-Gummi enemies we have left are the Sneak Army and the World of Chaos. Are we missing any others?
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Dan - Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase! ♫ — 14:05, June 25, 2010 (UTC)
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I think so, and I promise I'll finish the etymologies as soon as my exams finish! ^_^
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LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
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Went and got the descritpion for the Sneak Army, improved the one for the Trickmaster, and started the one for the World of Chaos. None of 'em have etymologies. If someone wants to finish up the World of Chaos, be my guest, it's still missing the description of the battleship as a whole.
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Dan - Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase! ♫ — 20:03, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
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I'm very, very, very, very, very sorry for delaying these etymologies for so long, I'll start on them now. Oh, and the Wyvern is lacking a proper design section.
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KrytenKoro - "It is often said that before you die your life passes before your eyes. It is in fact true. It's called living." TALK -
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I found the japanese name for the KH2 gummi ships, so those etymologies should be relooked at. Thanks!
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LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
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On the subject of the Unversed, unregistered contributors and other users are adding descriptions to them anyway, so maybe we should just get those out of the way. We can hold off on etymologies in anticipation of name changes, but the physical description of the enemies probably won't change much. Thoughts? EDIT:Okay, been I while since I brought this up. No opposition to me putting up the Unversed descriptions?
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Dan - Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase! ♫ — 18:39, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
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Awesome, I'll get to the gummi etymologies soon. Just one thing, the Wyvern is still lacking a proper design section, if someone could handle that, it would be great.
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maggosh Nothing can destroy the Doctor! — "The Doctor doesn't pay, and he doesn't worry." "If you want trouble - *breaks windshield* - then you just keep coming on!"
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Hey guys, I don't mean to barge in, but on the topic of the Unversed etymologies; I've started to write them on my own here. Keep in mind, these are still a work in progress, and, well, to put it simply, my goal is to make each of these the best as they possibly can, so they can be put right into the article's Design section. At this moment, I've written them for all of the Unversed save for the bosses.
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Galexgan "Strength of Heart will carry you through the hardest of trials." — 05:23, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
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Two things, 1st)I like the etymolygy Maggosh. Though I'm still probably a Nobody, and my word may mean nothing but, I say you did great on them.
2)I have the game pre-ordered already and usually beat most games with (At most) the first two weeks so as soon as it comes out I can volunteer myself to help in any way possible on this project, if needed. It's probably a bit early to be saying that but I'm happy to help the wiki anyway I can.
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LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
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Suggestion. Obviously for bosses who are also actual characters (Saix, Luxord, Hades, etc.) we wouldn't give their bosspages design sections, it would be redundant to the Appearance section on their main page. But for characters who have multiple forms during boss fights (Xion, Xemnas, Marluxia, Maleficent etc.) I think we should contain the descriptions of the multiple forms on the respective boss pages. For example, what I did with the descriptions of Xion and Xemnas' various armored forms. Thoughts?
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Progress
List critters in alphabetical order under each game. For enemies that appear in more than one game, please make sure to list them under the first game they appear in.
Kingdom Hearts
Basic enemy descriptions are completed.
- Air Pirate
- Air Soldier
- Angel Star
- AntiSora
- Aquatank
- Bandit
- Barrel Spider
- Battleship
- Behemoth
- Bit Sniper
- Black Fungus
- Blue Rhapsody
- Bouncywild
- Cave of Wonders Guardian
- Chernabog
- Darkball
- Darkside - needs etymology
- Defender
- Fat Bandit
- Gargoyle
- Green Requiem
- Guard Armor/Opposite Armor
- Ice Titan
- Invisible
- Large Body
- Parasite Cage
- Phantom
- Pirate
- Pot Centipede
- Pot Spider
- Powerwild
- Rare Truffle
- Red Nocturne
- Rock Titan
- Screwdiver
- Sea Neon
- Search Ghost
- Shadow
- Shadow Blob
- Shadow Sora
- Sheltering Zone
- Soldier
- Stealth Sneak
- Trickmaster
- White Mushroom
- Wight Knight
- Wizard
- World of Chaos
- Wyvern
- Yellow Opera
Kingdom Hearts Gummy Enemies
Chain of Memories/Re:Chain of Memories
- Creeper Plant
- Crescendo
- Tornado Step
Kingdom Hearts II
- Aeroplane
- Aerial Knocker
- Armored Knight
- Assassin
- Assault Rider
- Berserker
- Blizzard Lord and Volcanic Lord
- Bolt Tower
- Bookmaster
- Bulky Vendor
- Cannon Gun
- Creeper
- Crimson Jazz
- Dancer
- Devastator
- Dragoon
- Driller Mole
- Dusk
- Emerald Blues
- The Experiment
- Firey Globe
- Fortuneteller
- Gambler
- Gargoyle Knight
- Gargoyle Warrior
- Graveyard
- Grim Reaper
- Groundshaker
- Hammer Frame
- Hook Bat
- Hostile Program
- Hot Rod
- Icy Cube
- Illuminator
- Lance Soldier
- Living Bone
- Luna Bandit
- Magnum Loader
- Minute Bomb
- Morning Star
- Nightwalker
- Possessor and Thresholder
- Prison Keeper
- Rabid Dog
- Rapid Thruster
- Samurai
- Shadow Stalker and Dark Thorn
- Shaman
- Silver Rock
- Sniper
- Sorcerer
- Storm Rider
- Strafer
- Surveillance Robot/Watcher
- Toy Soldier
- Trick Ghost
- Twilight Thorn
- Xemnas (Boss) - Dragon battleship needs description
Kingdom Hearts II Gummy Course Enemies
- Bomb Bell
- Bomber
- Crawler
- Cruiser and Mini-Cruiser
- Cyclops
- Dragonfly
- Driller
- Gatling Ship
- Grappler
- Hex Ring
- Hunter
- Hunter X
- Knight Head
- Mad Rider
- Mega Tank
- Mystic Flyer - needs etymology
- Phoenix
- Pirate Ship
- Reaper's Wheel
- Ring Tank
- Shield
- Speeder
- Spider - needs Japanese etymology
- Spiked Roller - needs Japanese etymology
- Submarine
- Tank
- U.F.O.
Final Mixes
- Aerial Champ
- Air Viking
- Arch Behemoth
- Black Ballade
- Chimera
- Destroyed Behemoth
- Gigas Shadow
- Grand Ghost
- Iron Hammer
- Jet Balloon
- Lance Warrior
- Mad Bumper
- Magic Phantom
- Missile Diver
- Mushroom XIII
- Necromancer
- Neoshadow
- Pink Agaricus
- Pot Scorpion
- Perplex
- Reckless
- Red Armor
- Runemaster
- Silent Launcher
- Sneak Army
- Sniper Wild
- Spring Metal
- Stealth Soldier
358/2 Days
- Aerial Master
- Air Battler
- Anti-Riku
- Anti-Saix
- Antlion
- Artful Flyer
- Avalanche
- Barrier Master
- Blitz Spear
- Blizzard Plant
- Bubble Beat
- Bully Dog
- Carrier Ghost
- Chill Ripper
- Clay Armor
- Commander
- Creepworm
- Crimson Prankster
- Cymbal Monkey
- Dark Follower
- Destroyer
- Detonator
- Dire Plant
- Dual Blade
- Dustflier
- Emerald Serenade
- Fire Plant
- Flare Note
- Grey Caprice
- Guardian
- Heat Saber
- Hover Ghost
- Ice Cannon
- Infernal Engine
- Jumbo Cannon
- Land Armor
- Large Armor
- Leechgrave/Tentaclaw
- Living Pod
- Lurk Lizard
- Massive Possessor
- Mega-Shadow
- Novashadow
- Orcus
- Phantomtail
- Pink Concerto
- Poison Plant
- Powered Armor
- Rare Vendor
- Ruler of the Sky
- Sapphire Elegy
- Scarlet Tango
- Scorching Sphere
- Sergeant
- Skater Bomb
- Sky Grappler
- Snapper Dog
- Snowy Crystal
- Solid Armor
- Spiked Crawler
- Stalwart Blade
- Storm Bomb
- Striped Aria
- Switch Launcher
- Tailbunker
- Tricky Monkey
- Turquoise March
- Veil Lizard
- Wavecrest
- Windstorm
- Xion (Boss)
- Zip Slasher
Birth by Sleep
- Arch Raven
- Axe Flapper
- Blue Sea-Salt
- Bruiser
- Buckle Bruiser
- Chest Spider
- Chrono Twister
- Cursed Carriage
- Flood
- Ice Colossus
- Iron Prisoner
- Irritable Tank
- Laser Bunny
- Jelly Ball
- Mad Treant
- Mandrake
- Mimic Master
- Monotracker
- Medicine Bottle
- Metamorphosis
- Prize Pot
- Red-Hot Chili
- Scrapper
- Shade Jelly
- Shoe Gazer
- Sonic Blaster
- Spring Loady
- Symphony Master
- Thorn Bite
- Vanitas's Sentiment
- Vile Face
- Wheel Master
- Wild Bruiser
- Yellow Mustard
(Let's hold off on doing these guys until official names and such are out, okay guys?)