Talk:Bequeathing

Pokhmon - What is Cloud doing? TALK - By the way, you three, who are you? — 12:15, March 27, 2010 (UTC) it says in the trivia the sora ,may not be able to wield the keyblade if vens heart was released.but I thought ven was roxas and therefore sora CAN wield the keyblade if vens heart is released

Xabryn - I don't care if you're real!You're not better! TALK - It's nice to have darkness on my side.{{{time}}} i'm not seeing this on the Trivia what i'm seeing is that the keyblade choose Sora instead of Riku because of Ventus. But changing the subject Sora let Jack Sparrow use hold the keyblade does that mean that Jack can use a keyblade now?

XIII-DARKNESS My friends are my power ! — 16:02, March 27, 2010 (UTC) Its not enough for you to just hold the keyblade it has to accept you to witch it didnt do with jack sparrow.

Terra and Riku

Fangzntalonz - A scattered memory like a far-off dream... TALK - A far-off dream like a scattered memory... since Terra's Keyblade Earth Shaker picked Riku, then Terra got Gaia Bane, does that mean Riku was supposed to get Earth Shaker?

Inheritance?

If Riku received the Keyblade from Terra, but it was passed onto Sora due to Riku's fall to darkness, how did Riku get a Keyblade? And why can't Kairi use the keyblade as well, seeing as how she supposedly inherited aqua's keyblade?KKD

Riku's soul eater turned into a keyblade when ansems machine exploded and kairi can us a keyblade seen towards the end of KHII 75.162.68.34 02:17, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Fangzntalonz - A scattered memory like a far-off dream... TALK - A far-off dream like a scattered memory... Actually, Riku's Soul Eater evolved into WttD after Sora fought him in the Land of Dragons. He's shown using it while in "Ansem" form in a fight against Saix. As for Kairi, not much is known about her Keyblade ability. Some speculate that Riku found her Keyblade, Destiny Place, at Destiny Islands or a Corridor to Darkness

• sigh* I know all that, but how did Riku get his keyblade? that's the real question. And destiny place was Riku's, not Kairi's.KKD

actually, i think i may have figured it out. Sora did get terra's keyblade, but due to Xehanort's possesion of Riku, riku gained Master Xehanort's Keyblade. KKD

Sora has his own Keyblade and Ventus's keyblade he don't have Terra's keyblade if you think well the ÇS has it but you're right about Riku he have his own keyblade and MX's keyblade. Besides Nomura stated that Riku was choosen by both a keyblade master and a keyblade--Xabryn 13:37, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

yeah, Riku was chosen by terra and later by MX's keyblade. Terra's keyblade went to Sora. He also has ven's keyblade (roxas) and vanitas's keyblade (Xion, i believe.). The LS? I can't explain that. I guess he's just a sentiment. I don't think his keyblade is a true one, especially since Sora got the Kingdom Key. KKD 17:55, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Okay calm down Sora only have 2 keyblades his own(Kingdom Key) and Ventus(Second keyblade) Terra's keyblade is with the LS, Xion's keyblade is a sham as Riku said and Vanitas's keyblade fused again with Ventus's, Roxas got his sinch blade ability after Xion's dead nomura said that the ability was awaken because of his desire to not lose Xion's memories, but anyway MX's keyblade is probably Riku's second Keyblade(we don't know how he got this ability) and he also have his own Keyblade(WaytotheDawn), m point is both Riku and Sora were choosen by the keyblade and by the keyblade but as the KK isa keyblade of the realm of light when Riku choose the realm of darkness the KK chose Sora instead since he is on the realm of light and have a heart of pure light with him, but Riku was later chosen by the WttD. what I'm trying to say is the KK and the WttD are they own keyblades nobody elses keyblades--Xabryn 16:43, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

KingdomKeyDarkside - You both... think you can do whatever you want. Well, I'm sick of it. TALK - Go on, you just keep running. But I'll always be there to bring you back! Nobody's (Not a Nobody, nobody meaning no person) keyblade is their own. Everyone inherits their keyblade from someone else. Riku said that Xion's keyblade was a sham because it was a copy of the Kingdom Key. As he wasn't even in the possession of a keyblade yet, he had no way of knowing that it was a fake keyblade. Terra's keyblade was passed onto Riku, which made its way to Sora (Because of Riku's fall to darkness, it's in the flipping article), and as in KHII FM, as the LS, his had no keychain. "Synch blade" was obviously just a way to fill in the reason why Sora and Roxas could use two keyblades, until everything else was explained. As Sora is still dormant during 358/2 days, Xion returns to him, but Roxas gains her keyblade for his own use, at least until he returned to Sora. Vanitas and Ven's keyblades are two seperate blades, proved when they were fighting each other (I highly doubt two people can use one keyblade at the same time.). Riku has no second keyblade, Wttd is his only keyblade, which was inherited from MX. The one that he hands to Kairi was obviously Aqua's, because it was in the form of destiny place, and Kairi was able to wield it without it returning to Riku. Sora and Riku were not chosen by keyblades, they were chosen by people who had keyblades. The purity of Kairi's heart inside sora did lead the KK to him, but it was intended for Riku, as chosen by Terra. Aqua had the intention to give her keyblade to Sora, but didn't, proving that he had potential. The inheritance is a way of passing the power of the keyblade down, not the keyblade itself. In conclusion, Wttd is a form of Riku's keyblade, power inherited from MX, and in turn, Xehanort, The LS's keyblade is no longer a true keyblade, KK is a form of Sora's keyblade, power inherited from Terra, and Roxas's keyblades are forms of Ven's keyblade, and in turn Vanitas's keyblade, power inherited from Ven and Xion, respectively. And, last but not least, Xion's keyblade is real, but it's KK form is "A sham", though the keyblade itself is not. Oh, and synch blade was filler for stuff Nomura hadn't figured out yet.

LegoAlchemist - They changed "Snipe Magnet" to "Magnet Grab"? Who's translating this game, 4kids? TALK - Friendships are in direct contravention of mercenary conduct as delineated in your contracts, and on a personal note: I am very, very, disappointed with you. Sorry, I'm a little lazy to read what you said, KKD... Riku got his Keyblade from Terra. That's how it happened. Sora, I believe, got Ventus's Keyblade. So, when Riku succumbed to darkness, the Keyblade passed to the next guy in line: Sora. It was part of Ventus that allowed him to wield it. Kairi, on the other hand, got her Keyblade from Aqua. So, when Riku handed Destiny Place to her, naturally, she was able to use it (crappy as it was...). That's the way I see it. Simple as that. Remember, Soul Eater is only like a replacement Keyblade. So, when Riku was ready to wield a Keyblade on his own, he got to do that. I guess Soul Eater was making up for Riku's Keyblade-ness then. Man, I'm tired. EDIT: OKay, I read what you said, KKD. In response, I disagree, and do not believe that Riku's Keyblade is MX's. Remember, Xehanort is now alive, and it's highly likely that we'll see his Keyblade in the next game.. I also don't really believe that Inheriting a Keyblade is the only way to recieve one. To get a Keyblade, you need a strong heart, or so it is implied. I believe it that the Inheritance ceremony is only a way to get a Keyblade, because, if it was the only way, we wouldn't see all the millions of Keyblades in Keyblade Graveyard. Plus that, we saw ourselves how Ventus just "Awakened" his Keyblade. And if it was due to connecting his heart with Sora in the first place, where did Sora's come from? There's way too many Keyblades out there, as well as unknown origins of their existance, to prove that only through inheritance can a person wield it. Unlocking it youself is one way, and having a prototype that can change into one, in Riku's case, seems to be another.

{{KrytenKoro "There are as many Keyblades as there are qualified hearts."

That's from Nomura. Really, the only ones that should need accounting are the dual blades - Sora's original Keyblade is quite plainly said by Nomura to be his own, even in the BBS interviews. However, his second Keyblade is Ventus's, because Ventus's heart is within him. Roxas's first Keyblade is also Sora's, existing in two places at once, just as Roxas is Sora existing in two places at once. His second Keyblade is Ventus's, because he retains Ventus's heart, and when Ventus's heart is returned to Sora with Sora's body, Sora gains Synch Blade as well (which is not fake but is simply the ability of summoning the second Keyblade). Xion's Keyblade is simply the memories of Roxas's (Sora's) original Keyblade, just as Xion is the memories of Roxas made solid. This is why she gains more control over her Keyblade as Roxas loses control. As for not having a Keyblade fight against itself, Xion vs. Roxas.

Kairi does not have a Keyblade. She can wield one, due to the semi-ceremony, but the Destiny Place isn't her's. Plus, it's just a keychain, apparently created by her influence, like Jungle King is made by Deep Jungle. At least according to the Another Report, it is Riku's Keyblade, which he is Synching and lending to her. It cannot be Aqua's, either, since Xemnas had possession of that in the Chamber of Repose.

If you want the honest part of it, though? This whole thing's a mess, and Nomura isn't very good at writing coherent stories. KH1 was extremely clear about Sora's Keyblade being the one destined for Terra, but he lost his qualification. The Kingdom Key D was also a Keyblade found in the Realm of Darkness by Mickey. KH2, along with Nomura's interviews at the time, then add in three other Keyblades (Roxas/Sora's 2, Riku's 1, Riku's 2), and Nomura explicitly says that Riku's Soul Eater became his Way to the Dawn, and the Destiny Place was his. He also says that Roxas's Keyblade is "what Sora lost in Castle Oblivion". Days/coded then says that Roxas had the Keyblade before the Castle Oblivion incident, and gives Mickey another Keyblade. Finally, BBS tries to say that Keyblades would be passed down, which might indicate that Sora has Terra and Ventus's Keyblades, but then that leaves Riku unexplained - it is possible, though never covered and in fact evidenced against, that a Keyblade can decide against its destined user due to darkness (what then of Xehanort's Keyblade? Or hell, Vanitas's? He was already dark when he got it.) It ALSO explicitly shows Terra's Keyblade going to the LS, physically, and then later appearing to save Aqua (and then it goes back? what?) Then, even if you argue that Sora has Terra+Ventus, and Riku has Xehanort+Aqua, the interviews indicate that Xehanort still has his Keyblade, he simply can't summon it, and Riku still uses the Way to the Dawn even after the Encoder erases Xehanort from his heart completely. You also have the problem of how Mickey "found" the Kingdom Key D, if you have to inherit it. Also, you have the problem of Vanitas - he has part of the heart of a Keyblade wielder, but he is a separate person, not a Nobody of Ventus - in fact, he is more than Ventus, since Ventus almost died without him. Basically, it was almost coherent, if fan-fic quality, at the end of KH2, and still possible with Days, but BBS and it's interviews make it fully contradictory.

There's also the fact that even in KH, it is known that Keyblade wielders can be evil and/or full of darkness, and Riku, while evil, gets the Keyblade in Hollow Bastion, so then how could the Kingdom Key "decline" Riku? Is it simply because Sora got to it first? Had his heart somehow gotten very weak during that one episode?

Honestly, I think the best solution is to ignore parts of what the game and Nomura have said, especially since they don't make much sense to begin with (where did Aqua and Terra get their original Keyblades, if Eraqus still had his and was their only master?). Of course, it's entirely possible that he has been mistranslated, and the dubbed game will clear this up. The only working solution, as I see it, is to interpret the ceremony as merely giving the power to wield a Keyblade, and possibly the right to inherit the Keyblade if the original wielder loses it somehow. The Blades themselves are manifestations of the wielder's own power (like Bleach), and so the X-Blade is a manifestation of Ventus and Vanitas's hearts. So, this explains where everyone gets their first Keyblade, and it's just the Synch Blades that have to be accounted for.

Sorry if this is circular so far, I'm just trying to get my thoughts down.

Anyway:

• Sora's Synch Blade = Ventus's personal blade
• Riku's Synch Blade = Possibly Xehanort or Aqua's blade.
• Aqua's Eraqus Blade = Eraqus's personal blade.
• Mickey's Star Seeker = Yen Sid's personal blade, which he somehow gives to Sora as well. Or maybe it is Mickey's personal blade, and Mickey was full out quitting when he handed the Keyblade to Yen Sid. That actually makes more sense.
• Mickey's Kingdom Key D = ??? Somehow found in the World of Darkness. If the Star Seeker is Yen Sid's (unlikely, why wouldn't Yen Sid teach him to get his own Keyblade), then Mickey could have gained this by gaining his personal Keyblade in the World of Darkness. It's also possible that he simply found it in the dark-side Keyblade Graveyard, or maybe the inhabitants of the RoD aren't all evil, and willingly gave Mickey the blade. It might also be possible that Mickey stole it from a surviving dark-side Keyblader, same way Riku stole the Keyblade from Sora and Roxas. Out of character, but the best fit in the canon.

I guess what I'm trying to say here is that either Nomura is simply inconsistent, or tries to word things too technically, and the fans aren't good enough at translating to notice that (they did screw up on the KH3 thing, after all). I personally think the system works best like Bleach, with the possibility of taking another's blade through greater strength of heart or voluntary passage.}}

KH Insider citation

Must be resourced to the interview itself, in the ultimania. Look at Keyblade of People's Hearts for an example.Glorious CHAOS! 03:32, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

brief glow of light?

Xabryn - I don't care if you're real!You're not better! TALK - It's nice to have darkness on my side.{{{time}}} I've watched and Rewatched Terra Keyblade Inheritance Ceremony with Riku and Aqua Keyblade Inheritance Ceremony with Kairi and i haven't seen any glow of light so is there really any glow of light?

Battle Stance

Is it just my impression or the battle stance of Terra is used by Riku(only in DI) and Aqua's is used by Kairi (in the world that never was the only time she hold a keyblade weapon)--Xabryn 00:24, May 19, 2010 (UTC)