Talk:Two Become One

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I'm not sure how to do this, but this article's name should be changed to Fateful Encounter, which is the properly translated name. KeybladeWarriorNick

I'm gong to assume we should move this? OtOcon^_- 02:54, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


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Muchomas35 - You are special. You exist between light and dark. You stand in the twilight.
TALK - For Shits and Giggles
No. I think Two Across sounds cooler. And untill we get it offically that its "Fateful Encounter," It stays as Two Across. Like the Areith/ies/whatever debate, except smaller.

Would it be appropriate to make a remark on how this Keyblade resembles Ven's, or is that is that too speculative? Pilaman 00:47, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

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KrytenKoro - And when you see me standing there, you'll know you've got a friend with a rock, I mean a big-ass rock.
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Honestly, "Two Across" is a hideous translation. The name means something akin to "Two people which meet fortuitously". It's meant to refer to the crossing of Sora and Riku's memories, the Oathkeeper and Oblivion, into the Keyblade.

めぐりあう二人:

  • 巡り会う(P); 巡り合う; 巡り逢う(oK) 【めぐりあう】 (v5u) to meet fortuitously (poet); to meet by chance; to happen across
  • 二人 【ふたり】 (n) two persons; two people; pair; couple;

Fateful is not correct either, as the implication is that this is completely random and lucky. "Encounter" has that element of luck, and is one of the closest synonyms.

I think "Couple's Encounter" or "Encountering Two".

I'd choose "Encountering Two", it's slightly more grammatically correct.


If this translation doesn't satisfy anyone, I can get further confirmation from a Japanese professor I know.

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FA icon.png Or what about Fortitious Encounter ?

Helping others always comes before asking others for help. TroisNyxÉtienne

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KrytenKoro - And when you see me standing there, you'll know you've got a friend with a rock, I mean a big-ass rock.
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The problem with that is that the literal translation is "The two people who meet by chance/luckily". The subject of the name is the two people, not the meeting. Of course, the problem with that is to then simplify it to fit into the 2/3 word naming scheme the games use.

I know this may seem a bit out of place of what we are currently talking about, but I have a question about this Keyblade's ability: Once you get the Final Form, is it still useful in any way? If so, how?

Also, if we're trying to come up with a new name for Two Across (that's what it looks like you're doing, anyway), how about Twilit Crossing? I mean, it's a mix of Light & Dark (hence the ability), as it is somewhat of a mix of Oathkeeper and Oblivion, and crossing... It fits with translation, I think. Maybe not the crossing part, but I think twilit fits. What do you guys think?

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KrytenKoro - Pinocchio with his nose attached to the trigger of a rifle, which points at his face as he says, "I want to live!"
TALK -
I suppose if you actually like Anti Form, it could be considered useful, but other than that, it's just to go with Bond of Flame.

And we're not considering a new name for Two Across - we're trying to agree on a better translation. "Twilit Corssing" is just completely, totally different from the meaning of the Japanese name, and would not work.

Oooh, I see... I'm no good at foreign languages, so I don't have any suggestions, then. I'll tell you if I come up with anything fitting, then.

Sorry about that.


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HarpieSiren - Here's one for all of us
TALK - It will keep us connected
I have no idea how old this disscussion is... but considering Two Across is a Keyblade that appears in Days, and considering Days is gonna have an English version. Why don't we wait till the English version comes out and we change it to whatever it's called there?
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FA icon.png My thoughts exactly. Unbirth was thinking the same thing too. We'll wait and then we'll move the page accordingly.

EDIT : Speaking about Unbirth, he got his hands on the Japanese version of Days and he found Two Across there. Now, if anyone else has found Two Across, please give us the Days stats. Or, ping him - I'll be away starting tomorrow.

Helping others always comes before asking others for help. TroisNyxÉtienne

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Unbirth Discussion — Et moi, Jack, L'EPOUVANTAIL !

Ils me trouvent génial, mes mauvais tours les émerveillent, tous les ans c'est le triomphe et la gloire.

I'll do it, I just have to turn my DS on.

Edit: Sorry, I can't. ^^' I don't understand what is attack, what's defense...

Serendipidous Pair ?

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Unbirth Discussion — Et moi, Jack, L'EPOUVANTAIL !

Ils me trouvent génial, mes mauvais tours les émerveillent, tous les ans c'est le triomphe et la gloire.

I find that name kind of weird, where does this translation come from ? (I ask this because I used Two Across on the french wiki too).

I thought the Keyblade was called "Two Across". Marexl 16:23, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

There is no official translation; the Keyblade first appeared in KH2 Final Mix which isn't in English. There won't be one until 358/2 Days comes out in English. "Serendipitous Pair" is a fan translation, but it's much, much more accurate than "Two Across," an appallingly bad translation some fan came up with. It apparently used this logic:
  • Meguriau Futari = meguriau ("to come across") + futari ("two people")
I'm sure you can see how the conclusion "Two Across" makes no sense given the above.—Urutapu 03:21, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
For fun, extra info, the editor who came up with the "Two Across" name somehow managed to translate the English-named Winner's Proof as "13 Mushroom".Glorious CHAOS! 03:51, 8 August 2009 (UTC)