Talk:A Fragmentary Passage

Screenshots (Anyone Know Japanese?)

AS IF! You can talk all you want, but that won't change a thing.

maggosh The steel is forged... — "Souls as far as the eye can see..." "If you want light to rule over all, then you must rid the world of everything else." Translations here. Looks like we'll finally get a name for Eraqus's Keyblade.

Vanitas Talk to me! — "The X-Blade shouldn't stay broken like this." "Join me now-and we can complete the X-Blade." — 15:51, January 20, 2011 (UTC) http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad99/Xion4ever/b6758105-d0b8-4f9c-9df2-5726afbdaece_zpsbdc080ce.pngI can't find the name of Eraqus's Keyblade. What's its name?

ShadowsTwilight - He's leaving you behind, and when you catch up, he'll be a different person TALK - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA he meant that we will get it since aqua is wielding it in gameplay we will be able to pause and go to the equipment section yada yada. but no, it doesn't actually say it there, we're gonna have to wait for the game to come out

Vanitas Talk to me! — "The X-Blade shouldn't stay broken like this." "Join me now-and we can complete the X-Blade." — 16:00, January 20, 2011 (UTC) http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad99/Xion4ever/b6758105-d0b8-4f9c-9df2-5726afbdaece_zpsbdc080ce.pngOk, thanks!

Name of the Secret Episode or the Ending?

WingBlade - I'm asking you, as a friend. Just... put an end to me... TALK - {{{time}}} According to Nomure, the Secret Episode is known as "Birth by Sleep -Volume Two-".(as seen in the ending)

Chitalian8 Darkness! — Both light and darkness give me the guidance I need. I can turn darkness into hallowed light! — 17:32, January 20, 2011 (UTC) I think it should be called Birth by Sleep -Volume Two- since all of the other secret endings have had their titles at the end, so we'd follow suit with this one. It would work until Nomura gave the actual name of the ending.

Well, that's just not true. At least the first two have the titles at the beginning, and I'm pretty sure that The Gathering and Birth by sleep do as well."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 17:37, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

Boss

Chitalian8 Say... — Only by allowing strangers in can we find new ways to be ourselves. Life's little crossroads are often as simple as the pull of a trigger. — 00:50, January 21, 2011 (UTC) So, if you haven't been watching Cyberman's live stream, there's this giant enemy crab Dark Thorn-looking Heartless as the final boss (click BBS Final Mix Secret Ending pics.|here for pics of it). The theme music is, in fact, Hunter of the Dark. Should an article be created about it?

Just call it Secret Episode

It's simply called Secret Episode in the game as well, so why pick a random phrase from the introduction cutscene and try to pretend that's its title? It's neither Zero Point nor A fragmentary passage. 87.185.233.27 22:37, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

No, the theater specifically calls it "A fragmentary passage""We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 22:41, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Is it just one cutscene or the headline for the whole secret episode? 87.185.233.27 22:44, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Whole thing."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 22:50, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Doesn't the Save Point call it Secret Episode?--Xabryn 10:40, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Well, it depends on whether we are talking about the story (like with Final Episode), or the scene. It might be worth splitting them."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 23:02, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Master Vantius - The light and darkness must be equal to bring balance to the worlds. TALK - Master Vantius 19:48, January 23, 2011 (UTC) I agree. There should be two pages. One about the video, the second about the game play with Aqua and the Red Eye boss battle.

maggosh The steel is forged... — "Souls as far as the eye can see..." "If you want light to rule over all, then you must rid the world of everything else." I disagree.

AS IF! You can talk all you want, but that won't change a thing. I agree with Maggosh. The videos and gameplay are both part of A fragmentary passage, just like how the creation of C.O. and the battle with Terranort are both part of the Final Episode. Sure you can make pages for the boss battle and the stats of the Heartless (the former of which has already been done), but there is no need to make the cutscenes and gameplay into different articles. On a separate note, does the cutscene with Aqua & the castle play immediately after beating the Red Eye boss? And should the Red Eye fight be added to this page?

Chitalian8 Say... — Only by allowing strangers in can we find new ways to be ourselves. Life's little crossroads are often as simple as the pull of a trigger. — 20:07, January 23, 2011 (UTC) The castle cutscene is right after the boss, with nothing in-between. The Red Eye fight is here.

Xabryn - I don't care if you're real!You're not better! TALK - It's nice to have darkness on my side.{{{time}}} One page is enough but the episode is called Secret Episode so this page should be called secret episode as well

maggosh What's a Keyblade, anyway? — "Third Rate Gamer on a Kingdom Hearts related wiki?" "Didn't they test this talkbubble out before they released it?" "A fragmentary passage, also referred to as the Secret Episode..."

AS IF! You can talk all you want, but that won't change a thing. @ Chitalian8: I mean, should we add any information about Red Eye to this article? Considering that the battle is a part of this episode and currently no mention is made of gameplay in the synopsis, I think we should add something about it.

Okay, so the game actually treats this the same as the Last Episode, it's just that the cutscenes within it are heavily reminiscent of Blank points. However, I think Blank points is still the true ending video. As such, I think we should move this to "Secret Episode", and mention that "A fragmentary passage" is the name of the video scenes. (When you select Afp in the Theater Menu, does it actually contain the gameplay of the Secret Episode?)"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 00:35, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

I believe not, no. I'd say we create seperate articles for the Secret Episode and Afp, like we do for the Last Episode and Blank points. Chitalian8 00:42, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

However, Blank points is not connected to Last Episode at all. You have to beat Blank points, then go and open the scene in the Theater Menu. Afp, you just see it while playing the Secret Episode."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 00:47, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

Master Vantius - The light and darkness must be equal to bring balance to the worlds. TALK - Master Vantius 15:53, January 24, 2011 (UTC) Since this page is about the entire Secret Episode, in the synopsis, shouldn't we have a portion explaining the playable part of the episode and where the Boss battle takes place to show the flow of events?

How to Unlock the Secret Episode

iZerox "Take a look at this tiny place. To the heart seeking freedom, this island is a prison surrounded by water. And so this boy sought out to escape from his prison. He sought a way to cross over into other worlds and he opened his heart to darkness." — 15:54, January 24, 2011 (UTC) So we know that the secret episode has to be unlocked before you can play through it, and I've read that it isn't as hard to unlock as previous videos as it's actual gameplay this time. I haven't been able to find information regarding how to unlock it and I'd like to know so that when my copy arrives in the mail I could actually play it. So if anyone actually knows the requirements needed to play it, I believe it should be added to the article even if it's something as simple as beating the Final Episode.

maggosh The steel is forged... — "Souls as far as the eye can see..." "If you want light to rule over all, then you must rid the world of everything else." The only requirement I know is beat the Final Episode on Critical.

Erry - Deep Drive TALK - Moon shine down. ~ 22:45, January 24, 2011 (UTC) I was playing on Proud Mode and my requirements were to get all stickers and get a full 140points on it. I did so with all 3 characters and got Secret Episode when I went back to the Main Menu after saving.

iZerox You really don't remember. It's me? You know, Axel? — 00:50, January 26, 2011 (UTC) Thanks guys, I hope more methods will be posted eventually for all difficulties.

Translations

I was just watching the cyberman videos, and I was wondering if anyone can translate the parts in Japanese. It'd be much appreciated. 71.92.202.190 04:14, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Videogamefan - Those who were not well-versed in their own existences. TALK - We are the opposite of human life! Here's the link to part 1 of the secret episode. The cutscenes are subbed and it shows the gameplay. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NB17-qLujYE.

Cutscene Error

UnknownChaser —— Just call me the 7th pirate of the 7 Seas.— Time? I'm a genius, I don't need to know the time, time need to know ME! Guys, I think Square Enix made an error in the cutscene when Aqua fight the unnamed Heartless, in the game, when you fight it, it show Aqua welding the Master Keeper, but when you rewatch the cutscene in the Trinity Archives, it show her welding the Rainfell, which she couldn't have use, because she only welds the MK in the Realm of Darkness.

AS IF! The world is garbage! CRUNCH! I'm pretty sure that's because much like any other cutscene, the characters' Keyblades default to their original ones in the Trinity Archives. A Fragmentary Passage is no exception, even if Aqua is only able to wield the Master Keeper.

AlVan - I'm the leading man, you know. TALK - 13:19, 27 April 2011 (EDT) Not quite. Lingering Will always has Ends of the Earth.

Erry - Problem? TALK - U Mad? ~ 15:22, 27 April 2011 (EDT) That's because the Ends of the Earth is the default Keyblade for the Lingering Will, while Earthshaker is to Terra.

AlVan - I'm the leading man, you know. TALK - 17:28, 27 April 2011 (EDT) What about the time at the end with Aqua and Strormfall?

AS IF! The world is garbage! CRUNCH! Which part? Do you have video evidence?

AlVan - I'm the leading man, you know. TALK - 18:12, 27 April 2011 (EDT) Watch the scene titled "With you". Aqua passes Stormfall to Terra-Xehanort.

AS IF! The world is garbage! CRUNCH! That's because in Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix, Aqua's armor is shown with the Stormfall Keyblade, and including the Rainfell Keyblade would mess that up.

UnknownChaser —— Just call me the 7th pirate of the 7 Seas.— Time? I'm a genius, I don't need to know the time, time need to know ME! Yes its true that in the other cutscenes it show the default Keyblade, but in AFP, the Master Keeper is the default Keyblade, so that would make it an error.

Erry - Problem? TALK - U Mad? ~ 08:23, 28 April 2011 (EDT) It would be an error chronologically but it's the Trinity Archives... what would you expect?

synopsis

whats the numbers for? TheFifteenthMember 18:10, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Have you really watched the ending? Pea14733 ---- [水] 00:28, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Beginner Mode

The page says "Beginner Mode - not accessible." However, the menu for 2.5's BBSFM says "(The secret movie is extremely difficult to unlock in this mode)", thus implying it is unlockable. Verdict? Draconai (talk) 19:26, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Oh, χ-blade, the wiki doesn't know. I'm effed. Draconai (talk) 21:47, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

As completing the Trinity Archives 100% is the most difficult task already I can only imagine that this also the unlock condition for the Beginner Mode now, if it's not an error, because I haven't found any evidence that this really changed, at least not on the Japanese boards. You probably have to find someone who 100% completed Beginner Mode already, maybe on gamefaqs. --ShardofTruth 07:50, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

I thought about it, in the original Final Mix the Secret Episode had the same unlock conditions as the secret movie Blank Points, maybe this was changed and Blank Points can be viewed in Beginner Mode now. I find an error still more likely though. --ShardofTruth 20:44, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

I have got a strong feeling that we need to 100% every single darn thing, beat every superboss however hard it may be, etc., etc., etc. in Beginner Mode before actually viewing Blank Points. Just a hunch. Feel free to disregard. Troisnyx 23:02, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Hmm, I don't know but completing the journal 100% already includes most of this stuff since the secret bosses all have character entries for example. --ShardofTruth 09:03, 26 January 2015 (UTC)