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BakaKidd The ultimate in nobody noobs! — 03:26, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
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Ok so,what if for the portals,like the character portal,weapon portal,etc...we have it change every time you visit? like you click onto here and u have axel on the Character portal,then next time u visit the main u have anssem,braig,Ventus,or someone else. same bout the other portals. if it aint possible,e could put KH3D based things for them,like Neku for the character portal,and a spirit and nightmare dream eater for the enemy tab. let me know what you guys think! ^-^
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AS IF! The world is garbage! CRUNCH!
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1. This is my version of the logo, based on the traditional columnar appearance.
2. About the main page, I think Traverse Town should have a more prominent appearance on the page- if I hadn't been randomly clicking around on the sidebar one day, I wouldn't have known Traverse Town existed. Other than that, I don't think much else is missing from the page. Also, the Command Board needs to be renamed, and due to the overall lack of information about 3D, I wouldn't recommend setting any name in stone yet. And the Mirage Arena, Quote of the Day, and Did You Know sections need to be moved lower on the page and made less prominent, while the Command Board and Helping Out sections, which are infinitely more useful to newcomers, need to be more prominent. That is all.
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Chitalian8 Say... — Only by allowing strangers in can we find new ways to be ourselves. Life's little crossroads are often as simple as the pull of a trigger. — 04:45, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
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I like Erry's first logo or As if's one, both suit me fine. But yeah, it is a little early to be changing our theme to KH3D, when we don't even know too much about the game.
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DoorToNothing — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven! And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 06:15, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
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I like the idea of having changing portal images. Excellent idea! I believe we had an idea earlier to have each one lead to a "sub-main page" that contains modified tidbits for just that group. Characters, for example, would have "Top Content", "Character News", etc. Basically similar versions of the main 3-4 parts of the main page that become exclusive to a group.
ErryK's logos are both nice, but As if's just takes the cake for me. I'm a fan of our traditional tri-columnar style.
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LegoAlchemist - They changed "Snipe Magnet" to "Magnet Grab"? Who's translating this game, 4kids? TALK - Friendships are in direct contravention of mercenary conduct as delineated in your contracts, and on a personal note: I am very, very, disappointed with you.
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I like As if!'s logo, but I honestly don't see what's wrong with our current theme.
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LightRoxas Talk! — "Get real! Look which one of us is winning!" Axel went somewhere. He went to sleep.
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I like ErryK's first logo the best, but all are excellent.
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17master - Hey, guys, check out my new camera! TALK - Oh wait, this isn't a camera... - {{{time}}}
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I really like ErryK's first logo. Although, As If!'s logo is as awesome as ErryK's.
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Eternal Nothingness XIII - Ven, Aqua... I'll find some way to make things right. TALK - This light... it's so warm. — 15:12, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
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Would it be possible to see a variation of As If!'s logo using the renders? I prefer his over Erry's, but the way Wandanyan and Komori Bat are just cut off randomly doesn't work for me.
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AS IF! The world is garbage! CRUNCH!
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Something like this?
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Eternal Nothingness XIII - I'm not afraid of what the darkness holds now. Even if you do wrest control of my heart from me, even if you cast me into the deepest, darkest abyss, you'll never sway me from the one cause that pushes me to keep on fighting. Whatever the cost, I'm ready to pay it. TALK - There's darkness within me... So what does that matter? I know I'm strong enough to hold it back. — 15:39, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
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I think now that I see that version, I prefer the artwork (we've always used the art in the logos in the past. But it would look better if Wandanyan and Komori Bat filled the entire space like Sora and Riku do.
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AS IF! The world is garbage! CRUNCH!
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If I make them fill the entire space, part of their bodies will get cut off. You complained about that in my first logo, so I made them really small in order to make them fit in the second one. Now you want them larger again. Are you okay with their bodies being partially cut off too?
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Eternal Nothingness XIII - Funny... This whole time, I've been telling myself I want to be stronger, more independent... But the second I let my heart do the talking... I find out how little I really know myself. And how much I miss them. TALK - All this time, I've been staring into the darkness... But... that doesn't mean I have to jump in. — 16:03, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
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What I didn't like about your first logo, As If!, was how Wandanyan's legs were just missing and Komori Bat was so small. I want to mask the fact that Wandanyan has no legs.
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Eternal Nothingness XIII - The three of us can never be torn apart, all right? I'll always find a way. TALK - When I really need you, Ven, I know you'll be there. — 17:18, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
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That looks PERFECT!!!
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Okay, I really like the render one you made, As If.
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LightRoxas"So many are still waiting for their new beginning, their birth by sleep. Even me... and even you."
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Eternal Nothingness XIII - You have to be strong. Strength of heart will carry you through the hardest of trials. TALK - What I do, I do for friendship. — 21:05, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
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The only problem with the render one is it breaks our trend of always using artwork, and Wandanyan/Komori Bat are too small.
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I would rather stick to the artwork one, and so I would go for Asif's final version of the logo. I would also go with refraining from using renders - we attempted to use renders for the BBS logo at one point in time, but ultimately switched back to artwork, didn't we?
But good on you, Erry, for bringing about the theme change. I'll gladly welcome it.
Also, will the changes apply to all skins? I personally hope they do.
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I'm as good as new! All my functions have been restored! • TroisNyxÉtienne — 21:42, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
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The Inexistent - All the world's a puzzle, and I the one who made it so... TALK - EVIL has come... at last...
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I honestly can say I hate what I did with the place. (O_O). BUT, I can tell you what I was TRYING to do.
- The Background: Instead of a boring four symbols, I upped it to nine, and gave it some color as opposed to the gray and white. HOWEVER, the color, in my opinion, didn't turn out well, and, because I was too lazy to try to fix the background (because the original version was a jpeg; it was immensly artifacted), it had to remain as two shades of gray.
- The Symbols:
- Heart- obvious.
- Another Heart- to make it nine... if someone wants to stylize a new one for me, I would appreciate it.
- "Somebody" symbol- Because it fits with the them.
- Keyhole- obvious.
- Mark of Mastry symbol- Because the MoM is the focus of DDD.
- Mickey Head- obvious.
- Dreameater symbol- obvious.
- Crown- Sora's symbol. If Riku had a symbol, I would replace the second heart with it.
- Key- obvious.
- The Navi headers- the one thing I didn't completely screw up. I think they're good, as the color isn't too intense, yet not too weak.
- The Logo- like I said at the Roundtable, I like the traditional three column- artwork style best, although As If!'s logo is a tad too large.
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Chitalian8 Say... — Mother and Father call me Joshua. I guess you can call me Joshua, too... Since you're my dear, dear partner. I don't see how this is my fault. You're the one who refuses to call me Pink. — 01:52, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
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I like what you have with the symbols so far. Isn't Riku's semi-official symbol the Heartless emblem, minus the spiked "X" across the middle? You could have that instead of the second heart.
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I'll see if I can switch the symbols tomorrow. KRCCFNF is tired of being STEPPED ON. 02:00, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
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LegoAlchemist - They changed "Snipe Magnet" to "Magnet Grab"? Who's translating this game, 4kids? TALK - Friendships are in direct contravention of mercenary conduct as delineated in your contracts, and on a personal note: I am very, very, disappointed with you.
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Is it possible to make the faces of the characters fill the columns a little bit? Sort of the way it is with our current logo? It just looks a little, I don't know... small?
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Again, will the changes apply to all skins? I'll gladly help with Roundedblue if needed.
EDIT 09:55, 10 October 2011 (UTC): At this point I'm handling the header titles (Community, Toolbox etc.) They're almost done, but now all I'll need is to work out the header, come up with a background colour and work accordingly. I have access to Photoshop on the university computers, so I trust we should be okay.
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Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 09:33, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
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Chitalian8 Say... — Mother and Father call me Joshua. I guess you can call me Joshua, too... Since you're my dear, dear partner. I don't see how this is my fault. You're the one who refuses to call me Pink. — 15:17, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
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The only problem I have with yours, Erry, is that the black borders in-between the boxes are a little thick. Otherwise, it looks good.
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Eternal Nothingness XIII - Ven, Aqua... I'll find some way to make things right. TALK - This light... it's so warm. — 15:23, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
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I agree with Chitalian; the black borders separating the three images are a tad thick, but just a TAD! As for that symbols image provided by Square, YES, YES, YES!!!
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Erry - Ragnarok de Dies Irae. TALK - Nascent Requiem ~ 15:51, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
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So something like this?
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Eternal Nothingness XIII - Ven, Aqua... I'll find some way to make things right. TALK - This light... it's so warm. — 15:52, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
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Looks just fine to me.
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AS IF! The world is garbage! CRUNCH!
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I like it, except why does the Komori Bat look kinda squashed? It looks like you shrunk it horizontally.
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Erry - Wretched SeeD TALK - -CESONIV SOCEW CESUL SOHTIF- + -FITHOS LUSEC WECOS VINOSEC- ~ 18:00, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
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Because if I placed it and scaled it down (normally), it would look too distorted (probably from the camera angle). So I sized it down horizontally so as to look more round.
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SilverCrono Well, I can tell who you are. — "Looks like you're prepared." "What is with you and picking up stray puppies?" — 22:08, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
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I come back from oblivion only to learn I'm probably gonna have to rebuild Roundedblue. Eh, I'll probably enjoy it.
I like the art column logos, especially the most recent one posted.
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LegoAlchemist - They changed "Snipe Magnet" to "Magnet Grab"? Who's translating this game, 4kids? TALK - Friendships are in direct contravention of mercenary conduct as delineated in your contracts, and on a personal note: I am very, very, disappointed with you.
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Okay, I'm liking Erry's version, except for a few small details: I still feel like Sora's face should be filling his column, and it feels like he (or Riku) should be facing the opposite way, to keep the momentum of the image balanced.
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AS IF! The world is garbage! CRUNCH!
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What Lego said, and also would you mind making a version where Way to the Dawn doesn't continue in the second panel? I understand why it was done, but I feel like it looks kinda weird having it behind the two Dream Eaters.
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Might I recommend weapons as orange, while adding a "Games" portal, which links to all of the games/ remakes (as gray)? But, yeah, I lDike that idea. KRCCFNF is tired of being STEPPED ON. 20:18, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
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Erry - Ragnarok de Dies Irae. TALK - Nascent Requiem ~ 07:13, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
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I love that idea of having the hearts on top in a template like that. However I think with that we would be able to use the "talkbox" images, for the portals. Like Characters would have "Disney Characters", "Final Fantasy Characters" "The World Ends With You Characters" "Kingdom Hearts Characters" with 3/2 characters "popping out" of the talkbox image. While with Keyblades we'd have "Kingdom Hearts Keyblades" "Kingdom Hearts II Keyblades", etc. Would make it look a lot more like a portal.
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AS IF! The world is garbage! CRUNCH!
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The Keyhole just updated their main page (and forgot to remove their old one- scroll down to see what I mean), and it looks like we won't be able to use my heart idea anymore. I still would like for there to be something like that on our main page, though- maybe we should do something like this?
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Chitalian8 Say... — Only by allowing strangers in can we find new ways to be ourselves. Life's little crossroads are often as simple as the pull of a trigger. — 22:15, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
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I like Erry's idea of the talk bubble images for the portals, but my idea would be to just have something very defining for each portal category, e.g. the Kingdom Key for Weapons, a Shadow for Enemies, a Potion for Items and Armor.
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KrytenKoro - Pinocchio with his nose attached to the trigger of a rifle, which points at his face as he says, "I want to live!" TALK -
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I might get my head bitten off for this, but I think well-done fanart or omake-type stuff would be best for the category portals, instead of just using existing images. Like, a Mandelbrot formed from Keyblades for weapons (or simply a Keyblade, Shield, and Staff arranged next to each other), Sora with a Potion for items, a Shadow, Creeper, and Flood for enemies (doing something?)...stuff like that.
I don't know, it's just an idea, but I think it might be good to add some personality to the main page.
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AS IF! The world is garbage! CRUNCH!
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Wow. I must say, you are the last person I'd expect to suggest that. Unfortunately I can't help you with the fractal, but I can try to do something like that. Let's see...
EDIT 00:17, 16 October 2011 (UTC): Actually, I was thinking: for the games, why not do a timeline like the one in Birth by Sleep's Trinity Archives? It could go like this:
BBS-BBSFM-KH-KHFM-COM-RE:COM-358-KHII-KHIIFM-KHC-KHREC-KH3D
EDIT 00:38, 16 October 2011 (UTC): How's this for the Characters section?
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Yes to all of the above. This is shaping up to be a pretty good main page. KRCCFNF is tired of being STEPPED ON. 00:45, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
- How's this? KRCCFNF is tired of being STEPPED ON. 03:36, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
I don't have the coding skill to be able to make it horizontal (the same reason why the remakes aren't next to the originals), but if anyone wishes to try, I'll be gracious. KRCCFNF is tired of being STEPPED ON. 03:47, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
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Chitalian8 Say... — Only by allowing strangers in can we find new ways to be ourselves. Life's little crossroads are often as simple as the pull of a trigger. — 04:00, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
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The coded heart looks crooked on my computer. T_I and I noticed that zooming in and out puts it in and out of line. T_I says it looks straight when he's at 100% zoom, while on my 100% zoom, the coded heart is crooked. Did you make the coded heart picture somehow different than the other hearts, T_I?
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17master - Hey, guys, check out my new camera! TALK - Oh wait, this isn't a camera... - {{{time}}}
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Yeah, I'm having the same problem as Chitalian's. Also, maybe we should make the dotted bar on the left a little bit bigger? And possibly, the dots are filled with symbols related to the game, in a similar fashion to the Days, BbS, and 3D wallpapers (like a Heart, Crown, and Heartless symbol for KH). I also prefer to see the timeline in horizontal.
Other than that, awesome job you guys! Sorry I couldn't help more ;-;
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Erry - Fight and Away TALK - It is a massive shit taken on the display and functionality of the site purely to draw in more advertising cash. ~ 13:30, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
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Honestly, about the other wiki using our idea, I think they just came here and read that and then proceeded to use it because it's JUST fishy when we were talking about it and now their main page looks like Metroid's.
Anyways, that's besides the point. Now, as for T_I's hearts idea, I think that would work a lot better within a horizontal/vertical rounded box underneath/beside the main box. However I still think we should to stick to the (WIP) Rounded box for portal pages. It sort of fits there better.
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Dark-EnigmaXIII - Ones born of the heart and darkness, devoids of heart... TALK - Those who ravage all worlds and bring desolation... 13:38, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
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Nope, Erry. We had that idea in the table with Soxra for over 4 weeks, and I have our conversation logged if you need any proof. Sorry if we bursted your bubble with the change. We just changed it yesterday because Soxra was free to work. And I only knew about this when The_Inexistent told me on the IRC after the change was done. Nevertheless, I'll give the logs if you desire. That's all I wanted to say.
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LegoAlchemist - They changed "Snipe Magnet" to "Magnet Grab"? Who's translating this game, 4kids? TALK - Friendships are in direct contravention of mercenary conduct as delineated in your contracts, and on a personal note: I am very, very, disappointed with you.
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As if!, this draft of the logo is perfect.
As for your character portal image... it almost seems like the characters are too big, meanwhile I can barely read the word "characters" at all.
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SilverCrono Well, I can tell who you are. — "Looks like you're prepared." "What is with you and picking up stray puppies?" — 23:01, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
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And here is the 3D skin for RB. Feel free to implement it for yourselves.
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