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Disneyvillainman - I'm what you might call an expert in the art of Darkness. TALK - Rather a stubborn ol' goat, wouldn't ya say?
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We've discussed moving the Xehanort's Heartless page to various other title including Ansem (Xehanort's Heartless), Ansem (Heartless), and Ansem the Seeker of Darkness. There re several reason for and against a move and so we ultimately decided to hold a topic about it on the forum as well as create a poll so that we could reach a final verdict. We'll end the poll Saturday unless there is a tie between two names. Any thoughts?
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<poll>
Where should we move Xehanort's Heartless?
Don't Move it, leave it at Xehanort's Heartless
Ansem (Xehanort's Heartless)
Ansem (Heartless)
Ansem the Seeker of Darkness
</poll>
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KrytenKoro - This is the song that runs under the credits; these are the credits, so this is where it goes. 'has nothing to do with the movie so we'll say, "Hey! Hey! Hey hey hey hey hey hey!" TALK -
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I keep on responding to this, but there's no "the". It's just "Ansem, Seeker of Darkness".
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LapisScarab Embrace... nothing! — 19:30, March 21, 2010 (UTC)
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I've discussed all I wanted to on Talk:Xehanort's Heartless, so from here I'll play the waiting game. If anyone has anything to add, do so here.
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Disneyvillainman - I'm what you might call an expert in the art of Darkness. TALK - Rather a stubborn ol' goat, wouldn't ya say?
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Well, time's up and it seems that this discussion has been resolved with a final score of:
Xehanort's Heartless-6
Ansem (Xehanort's Heartless)-3
Ansem (Heartless)-0
Ansem the Seeker of Darkness-2
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KrytenKoro - This is the song that runs under the credits; these are the credits, so this is where it goes. 'has nothing to do with the movie so we'll say, "Hey! Hey! Hey hey hey hey hey hey!" TALK -
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Ansem, Seeker of Darkness got 3, actually. I suppose this is closed for now, though I still think it's an inappropriate name.
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Update:
In the BBS mysteries interview, Nomura specifically uses "Ansem, Seeker of Darkness" to refer to Xehanort's Heartless. Seeing that he is using this name in a "all spoilers, all the time" type of interview, I think it's officially his proper name.Glorious CHAOS! 04:11, April 1, 2010 (UTC)
Ex:
- "Xehanort’s Heartless calls himself Ansem Seeker of Darkness, and his Nobody calls himself Xemnas."
- "Ansem Seeker of Darkness thought that she had been able to search for a keyblade wielder, but what actually saved her was the magic spell Aqua had put on her."
- Well, if that's the case, then we should probably move it to that. It's better than a journal entry.--Lapis ofthe Night 04:14, April 1, 2010 (UTC)
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Disneyvillainman - I'm what you might call an expert in the art of Darkness. TALK - Rather a stubborn ol' goat, wouldn't ya say?
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I agree. Nomura's word is law, LOL
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Issues
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Eternal Nothingness XIII - Ven, Aqua... I'll find some way to make things right. TALK - This light... it's so warm. — EternalNothingnessXIII 14:25, April 10, 2010 (UTC)
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I still hate the move. It's such a complex, stupid title. Not to mention we are a Wiki about the GAME, which in terms of chronology, most recently calls him "Xehanort's Heartless," a term that has been used ever since Kindgom Hearts II, and is said in Kingdom Hearts to be the PROPER name of the entity. We are NOT a Wiki about Nomura or his interviews, where he very possibly simply used "Ansem" as an easier reference. Ansem is a more common term used to refer to Xehanort's Heartless, but it causes too much confusion in terms of things with Ansem the Wise. Just check the edit history of the "Ansem, Seeker of Darkness" page to see what I mean. An IP had added :
- "It is unknown what became of Ansem (the Heartless, not the Wise), as the explosion of the Kingdom Hearts Encoder seems to have released his grip on Riku's heart.
If the name is to appear as "Ansem", it should ALWAYS be in quotes so we can at least differenciate a little bit between the two. I am also curious about one thing... whenever the term "Xehanort's Heartless" appears on a page, until we can FINALLY settle this matter, we change it to "Ansem," correct? Again... I don't like using the same name for two characters, even if there is a difference in titles.
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