Forum:Warning Templates

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JFHavoc Talk to Me! — I once took an IQ test and got a score of over 9000. You're all morons. — 16:26, January 7, 2010 (UTC) There's something that I've been curious about for a little while, but it's never been that big a deal so I let it go. If someone is vandalizing pages I know the right thing to do would be to tell a staff member, but even so I've seen some users using Warning Templates. Are the Warning Templates just for staff members or can normal users use them if necessary?

LevL Fear my mighty instruments! I've seen some not-staff people, including me, using those warning templates, so I believe everybody may use them.

KrytenKoro - This is the song that runs under the credits; these are the credits, so this is where it goes. 'has nothing to do with the movie so we'll say, "Hey! Hey! Hey hey hey hey hey hey!" TALK - As I understand it, any editor can warn another editor. However, only official warnings from a mod or admin count towards a block or ban. Honestly, I've seen them abused in the past, and I would personally prefer if non-mods would just state their objection (politely and impassionately), rather than using the template. It doesn't look good if we have multiple editors jumping on a new editor for the same mistake, and using unprofessional warning reasons.

BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...02:55, January 8, 2010 (UTC) What Kryten said. It's actually been a small issue in the past. Especially when it comes to new editors, be polite and err on the side of "honest mistake". If those "honest mistakes" keep happening, it's time to call in a staff member to help.

DoorToNothing — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven! And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 04:24, January 11, 2010 (UTC) To make this official, I am going to add this to the template pages for the warning templates: A warning template should only be used by staff members; other editors should simply state their objection in a polite matter on the offending editor's talk page. If there are any objections to this, please state them in this forum thread.

I don't really have an objection, more like a question. What about regular users? I'm not talking about those who socialize, could be immature, etc. But regular users like myself, ENX, Xiggie, NinjaShiek, SSC, Yer mom, etc. I know I've warned a few users in the past that were later banned, with no objections from the staff members. Also, what about cases in which a staff member isn't on but a vandal/user needs a warning? I don't think staff members would like thier talkpages cluttered with a list users/anons that need a warning template. To continue, sometimes calmly telling a vandal to stop is not the case, however the message usually "hits home" when they see a warning template on their talk page. My point for this is, why calmly ask a vandal three+ times when a warning template would fit after the second verbal warning? Xion4ever Who am I? — 20:26, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

LotsoBearLover - Welcome to sunnyside! TALK - You've got a playdate with destiny!" Yes, I agree with Xion

DoorToNothing — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven! And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 06:00, January 13, 2010 (UTC) Those warnings that you gave, however, were given before this policy currently being discussed was put into action. Also, a vandal doesn't need to have three warning templates stamped on their talk page to be banned; if it is plainly obvious that they have three or more accounts of vandalism to the wiki, then they are subject to a temporary or permanent ban from the wiki. We have a large and active staff, and if you can't find a staffer around, I can almost guarentee you that there will be an administrator on either this wiki's IRC Channel, or the Final Fantasy Wiki's IRC Channel. In fact, that's how most editors have been notifying administrators of vandals, hence the increase in vandals banned by Hexedmagica. If we could get even more administrators on these channels more often for vandal notification, then that would be even better. If a decision has to be made conerning regular users being able to deliver official warnings, I would deny them the ability to do so. Xion4ever suggests only having some of the non-staffers able to deliver the warnings. The issue would be that a qualification would have to be made for an editor to meet to use the warning templates. And that qualification would have to be constantly changing. For example, if it was edit count that was being judged, the number of required edits would have to be increased depending on the wiki's growth, and edit count can be high for an editor from the blogs and user talk pages. Similarly to the recent age policy stint, it would be all or none for regular users, and I think that it would be better to just have none if you won't be using the templates at all versus all editors being able to use them as official warnings. Or, here's an idea: we could allow the use of the warnings templates to all editors, but only the warnings from staff members count toward a temporary or permanent ban. However, the issue with this is an inappropriate use of the warning templates, as I have seen in the past. Although there are some acceptable reasons for warning templates that seem ridiculous (such as vandalizing the Sandbox), new users and even experiences non-staffers give some crazy warnings sometimes that just show that they shouldn't be able to have the power to contribute to the expulsion of a vandal, when in fact they are using warning templates in cases that are not vandalism.

Allow me to clear my original post. I mean for all staff members and regular, non-staff users to deliver the warnings. I like the last idea better, but it does have its loopholes which could cause alot of unnecessary drama (if abused). I'm not really much on the whole "staff only" rules, but it seems to be the best choice. On that same note (for any that object to the staff only rule): there is another wiki that only allows staff members to warn vandals the Mario Wiki, which seems to work fine. But I digress, the final verdict is that only staff members can post warnings? Xion4ever Who am I? — 02:48, January 14, 2010 (UTC)