Talk:Zack

Well damn

First FF cameo we had in years.. This was quite an eye-opener for me, literally. Kaihedgie 14:14, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah it's about time we had more FF cameos:D.--Masgrande 15:12, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

Zack is awesome!FaythOfFenrir 15:20, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

Now give us more FFVI and an FFIV character and I'll be happy Kaihedgie 17:02, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

Zack is the best FF character. He better not be in this game JUST to replace Cloud. BTW he's is the best. No 3 Xaldin 21:34, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

Not the best, just decent Kaihedgie 21:33, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

ShadowsTwilight - He's leaving you behind, and when you catch up, he'll be a different person TALK - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Yay!!!!!! Zack!!!!!! This is AWESOME!!!!!! Wait, do ya think we're going to see him die in this?

maggosh Strike backwards... — "That's a nice expression." You're terrified, aren't you? Not unless he has the Buster Sword. I see his SOLDIER issue sword, so unless we see Angeal in this, it ain't gonna happen.

ShadowsTwilight - He's leaving you behind, and when you catch up, he'll be a different person TALK - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Dude, since when have they done things the same way as the original

Ultima - Cake and grief counseling will be available at the conclusion of the test. here's the full scan, if you have nto saw it. [1]. EDIT: Kairi's in it. -18:50, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

Yer mom - SOMOS HOMBRES O PAYASOS!!!! TALK - 19:22, December 2, 2009 (UTC) And so is Mickey with his Fantasia clothes as D-link >.>

Dude wtf is with his waist—Urutapu 19:38, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

maggosh Strike backwards... — "That's a nice expression." You're terrified, aren't you? @ST: Well, sure, but wouldn't it be interesting to see that sort of transition?

LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had? Urutapu, I was thinking exactly the same thing, along with "Dude, wtf is up with his legs". Maybe they wanted him to fit with the Hercules style.

maggosh Strike backwards... — "That's a nice expression." You're terrified, aren't you? Yeah, because that's obviously what they did with Cloud. OH WAIT.

LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had? 1) I never mentioned Cloud. 2) Zack is the only one who is designed like that. All the other Final Fantasy characters are realistically proportioned and having Zack match the Hercules artwork is the only reason I can think of to explain why he is not. The attitude wasn't necessary.

NinjaSheik - All of this might have started with a lie...But I'm really am glad that I could meet you... TALK - One day, the light-it will be ours, and it will bring us together. Til then, I'll be in your heart... I'm so glad Zack is in this! I can't wait to see him! Lapis-kun, can you do the apperance section? I think you can do better.

LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had? Okay, done, and I'm excited that Zack is in this too! Though, to be honest, I'd have been glad just to see any Final Fantasy character show up again.

NinjaSheik - All of this might have started with a lie...But I'm really am glad that I could meet you... TALK - One day, the light-it will be ours, and it will bring us together. Til then, I'll be in your heart... Thank you.

maggosh Strike backwards... — "That's a nice expression." You're terrified, aren't you? Whoa, whoa, Lapis, don't go Shanghai on me!

LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had? Was your earlier comment just a joke? Sorry man, my bad, guess I didn't catch that.

maggosh Strike backwards... — "That's a nice expression." You're terrified, aren't you? Yeah, it kinda was.

BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...03:07, December 3, 2009 (UTC) I saw the article in recent edits, and here I was all, "Whose creating this fan stuff again?" And then I read the article and got served. ^_^

Is it just me who realize that Olympus Coliseum shows badass ff characters? First Cloud, then Auron, now Zack??? What's next? Balthier? Balthier....or Basch and Gabranth. :D

NinjaSheik - All of this might have started with a lie...But I'm really am glad that I could meet you... TALK - One day, the light-it will be ours, and it will bring us together. Til then, I'll be in your heart... I was thinking more like...Vincent Valentine? In fanfics that centers around "Kingdom Hearts II" people always put Vincent in the Olympus Coliseum, thinking he would make a pact with Hades to bring back his old love, Lucrecia Crescent. I hope Vincent is going to be in KH3.

@Kaihedge-Yep put some ff characters from those games or rinoa and bartz and square will have my gratidute(cuz rinoa and bartz are my favorite ff characters) Firaga44 23:05, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

Sephiroth

Xemwath - You are my living legacy. TALK - SOLDIER 1st Class Zack! If Sephiroth is in this, do you think he's going to be evil or not? If he is not evil, then maybe we can use him as a D-Link!

Firaga44 - Everyone's favorite anime nerd is back and kicking!Well not everyone's favorite but you people get the idea >.< TALK - All i hear during that cutscene blah blah blah. If he's in Birth By Sleep I think he's gonna be evil.

LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had? Maybe not. Judging from Zack's outfit, the story may follow Crisis Core, and if that's so Sephiroth could be an ally in the beginning.

NinjaSheik - All of this might have started with a lie...But I'm really am glad that I could meet you... TALK - One day, the light-it will be ours, and it will bring us together. Til then, I'll be in your heart... I like Sephiroth when he's nice, and he have a sense of humor. Crisis Core was the only game that show that he was a good person with his friends, Zack's mentor, Angeal, and Genisis Raspody.

XionXIV - "You have poured so many memories into me,given me so much,that I feel like i'm about to overflow." TALK - "Look at me Roxas,who do you see?" -- 04:42, December 3, 2009 (UTC) ...How can Sephiroth be nice in BBS? I mean,he is just really...Well,i can't describe him.But I do think just a LITTLE bit that he could have been good. Everyone is good at least once,right?

LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had? He was a good, if cold person in Crisis Core -Final Fantasy VII- (at least before he found out his mother was an alien and went nuts). If BBS takes inspiration from that, it isn't far-fetched at all that Sephiroth could be an ally.

XionXIV - "You have poured so many memories into me,given me so much,that I feel like i'm about to overflow." TALK - "Look at me Roxas,who do you see?" -- 04:48, December 3, 2009 (UTC) ...Coolio.

Expect

• Seiyuu: Kenichi Suzumura
• VA: Rick Gomez
• Role: Wants to be a hero.
• World Storyline: Similar to Crisis Core (With Sephiroth, Cloud, & Tifa).

72.184.129.252 23:18, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

I think so, too.--NinjaSheik 23:19, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

Other Details

Zack's Sword and stomach guard are still branded with the Shinra Logo. When Zack is Summoned via D-Link, he uses Materia-based attacks.

You confused Shinra with SOLDIER Kaihedgie 07:24, December 3, 2009 (UTC)

SOLDIER is a part of Shinra, you know HarpieSiren 08:06, December 3, 2009 (UTC)

They have separate logos though. Tryin' to be specific here. Shinra isn't mentioned in KH anyway Kaihedgie 08:09, December 3, 2009 (UTC)

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Need I say more? Kaihedgie 08:14, December 3, 2009 (UTC)

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SOLDIER has been mentioned in Cloud's entries in Jiminy's Journal, before. Which doesn't really make all that much sense. Considering that A: Cloud wasn't in SOLDIER and B: It's an alternate universe so the stuff that happened in FFVII didn't happen in KH. HarpieSiren 08:19, December 3, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe they'll be trying to figure out why Jiminy has the word "SOLDIER" in his journal for cloud. Wouldn't be surprised if that showed up in whatever that game is they're making for the cell phone. Which, honestly, I won't get.--Pkthis 23:33, December 3, 2009 (UTC)

And now for a lame pun

Zack is the seventh FFVII character to make an appearance in the KH series Kaihedgie 01:25, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

Body Praportions

"is it me or dose he seem to be WAY thinner than normal?

in the sceen with him and Terra, his waste is like a womans.

my Theory is that Zacks design is to make it look like hes origonaly from the same world as Hrec.

you know, make it so in KH Hercs home world could be Zacks home world, his outfit is also an indication to make me think so, maybe hes a student under Phil.

its posssable that Zack and Phil may have the same friendship and conections as Zack and angeal had in FF7:Crisis Core.

but again its all just a theory of mine

~Ixbran"

I think so, too, about Zack and Phil's relationship. I'm hoping that Phil will call him "Zack the Puppy". Zero attention span, and reckless as a puppy. Tee hee hee!--NinjaSheik 02:56, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

Oh, making him look Hercules-esque is obviously the intent. Just look at his legs. The problem is his head is still Finally Fantastic and looks out of place as hell.—Urutapu 03:55, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

It's not that bad.--NinjaSheik 04:03, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

Cloud's Search +

Eternal Nothingness XIII - You have to be strong. Strength of heart will carry you through the hardest of trials. TALK - What I do, I do for friendship. — 23:13, December 7, 2009 (UTC) We all know by "I'm looking for someone. Hades promised to help.", that Cloud meant Sephiroth. If BBS does follow Crisis Core (I find this extremely unlikely), is it possible that he meant Zack? If so, what became of him, and wouldn't Cloud appear as a 13 year-old version (He's 24 or whatever in KH1, so do the math. Also remember Zack is older in CC, so he'd basically be about 15 or something)?

NinjaSheik - All of this might have started with a lie...But I'm really am glad that I could meet you... TALK - One day, the light-it will be ours, and it will bring us together. Til then, I'll be in your heart... I'm sure he meant Sephiroth. If it does Crisis Core, which I'm pretty sure they don't, then shouldn't Zack be...Uh, you know...Dead? Well, this took years before the game, so mostly likely Zack could die in BBS.

maggosh Strike backwards... — "That's a nice expression." You're terrified, aren't you? And shouldn't Aerith be dead as well? KH has changed the FF timeline before; I wouldn't be surprised if Zack is still alive around KHI.

HarpieSiren - Here's one for all of us TALK - It will keep us connected He was 22 in KH1, so he'd be 12, which would make Zack about 13. And KH has never followed the FF canon that directly, we shouldn't expect it to start now.

NinjaSheik - All of this might have started with a lie...But I'm really am glad that I could meet you... TALK - One day, the light-it will be ours, and it will bring us together. Til then, I'll be in your heart... I thought so, too. I was hoping to see Zack in KHIII.

Why is zack classified under the "Characters from an unknown world" Catigory?

i think its pretty obvious that Olympus Collosieum is Zacks home world in KH:BbS.

• his body praportions are on par with the characters from that world, his ears even have that swirl design in them like young Herc in BbS

• hes dressed the same as the other characters from that world.

• also take into account that even though they are from other games, Aerith, Yuffie and Cid, from FF7, share the same Home world with Squall, from FF8. whare as Cloud, Tifa and Sephiroth are from a compleatly difrent world all together.

I personaly dont see anything wrong with a FF character whos home world in KH is a disney World, i mean KH is suposed to be about fusing Disney and FF into one. So the very idea of a FF character whos home world is a disney world shouldent be all that hard to accept

Or are there some people who just hate the very idea of it, and are in denial about Zacks home world being Olympus Collosieum?

im not trying to start a fight or anything, but i just wanted to know why Zack is under the "Characters from an unknown world" Catigory, when its obvious, to me, hes origonaly from Olympus Collosieum, or am i missing something?

~ Ixbran

HarpieSiren - Here's one for all of us TALK - It will keep us connected First of all, it's "PROPORTIONS". Secondly, Cloud is from Radiant Garden, Nomura has said so. And as for the question at hand, it's not that we "hate the idea" and are "in denial." See, while it's extremely likely that he's a resident of the Olympus Coliseum, we won't really know until the game is out. We really shouldn't assume anything till then. ETA: And this is a wiki. If you think it's wrong then fix it, the worse that can happen is that someone will correct you.

Or ban you. Don't forget that.--71.116.53.127 20:28, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

RedemptionUltima - What IS he!?! No one's EVER worn the darkness the way that he does! It's impossible! TALK - See my illusion! He's got you there.

HarpieSiren - Here's one for all of us TALK - It will keep us connected True, but as long as people use their brain when editing it, that shouldn't be a problem

Nitrous X Merry Christmas! — I have identified the scent. It is...Christmas! "When did that happen? You were always terrified of Santa before-" Speaking of this, since Zack's homeworld hasn't been confirmed should we change the infobox's homeworld part back to "Unknown"?

maggosh Strike backwards... — "That's a nice expression." You're terrified, aren't you? That would be a good idea. And if we're doing that, we should move it to "Other Residences".

Guardian Soul Talk. — Don't I even warrant a hello? It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - 22:42, December 30, 2009 (UTC) To be honest, his home world should be treated as Olympus Coliseum until it's stated as otherwise in the game. With the way we have it now, it's making it look as if we're absolutely sure that he's not from Olympus Coliseum. The only place we've seen him at is Olympus Coliseum, in Olympus Coliseum styled clothing, so why should we support the fact that he doesn't live there more than the fact that he does?

Only FF character?

Were did you get that information. (And what about Moogles?) FaythOfFenrir 17:44, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

Check www.kh13.com and read the Nomura interview, moogles and Zack are the only FF part in the game. Squall and Cloud were supposed to have a backstory in the game, but there was already too much story involved, so they dropped the idea.--Ataradesu 18:34, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

New trivia piece

Someone needs to add in Zack bein' the second FF character to appear in the series with his own theme Kaihedgie 03:26, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

I need help

Hey darkstar16 here I tryed puting a video in zack's page but a part of the page is gone can you help me thinks

Fate

Nitrous X Talk! — Then I shall make you see...That your hopes are nothing. Nothing but a mere illusion! Don't I even warrant a hello, Lexaeus? Okay, the answer will probably be a spoiler, just for a warning to other users. Does anyone know what Zack's fate is? I read the feather-thing, but I just don't get it. Is he still alive?

Well, we don't know. That's the last thing we see of him.—Urutapu 16:08, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

KingdomKeyDarkside - A scattered dream that's like a far-off memory. A far off memory that's like a scattered dream. TALK - I want to line the pieces up, yours, and mine.16:34, January 16, 2010 (UTC) I've got it! this is my interpretation, but sephiroth comes and kills zack or something, which gives cloud a reason to show up in KHI, looking for vengeance against Sephiroth for killikg his friend. Don't black feathers usually symbolize sephiroth? But then... how would cloud have gotten the Buster Sword? KH totally messes up the FF universe within it. Aerith is alive, Cloud has the buster sword for no apparent reason, etc.

LOMI, Voice of Nothing Master of Fiction {{{1}}}

Nitrous X Talk! — Nice to see you, too, Vexen. It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. See my illusion! Ooh, I'm confused now. I've never played a single FF game, so I don't know about that. Xabryn suggested I watch the videos, I might do that...

Zack doesn't own the Buster Sword in KH, so it's fine. The Buster Sword is probably just cool in this continuity and not a "warrior's legacy" type thing like it is in Compilation of FFVII.—Urutapu 20:28, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Saxisai Chat it up! — Hey, where's Perry? "click click click" — Saxisai 20:31, January 16, 2010 (UTC) the thing about this is, in the KH Universe, Sephiroth's feathers have blue tint to them, but these feathers were pure black...which could mean Genesis is introduced into the KH Universe for a split second...

KingdomKeyDarkside - A scattered dream that's like a far-off memory. A far off memory that's like a scattered dream. TALK - I want to line the pieces up, yours, and mine.20:36, January 16, 2010 (UTC) That's possible, I guess... Saxisai: Perry The Platypus? WTH?

Mrsaxel - No matter how far away we are, our hearts will bring us together again. TALK - Did the King send you?4:35pm Well, you know, Sephiroth was supposed to be the darkness in Cloud's heart, right? Maybe (this is all speculation and will most likely be wrong), Cloud knew Zack and maybe Could inadvertenly did something that involved Sephiroth that led to Zack's death...? Haha. Sorry-- I don't know the FF stories. Zack's probably going to be alive and I'll be rambling on for nothing. :D I just feel like it would make sense that Cloud would want to defeat Sephiroth to get rid of his guilt once and for all.

KrytenKoro - "Hurricane beats all housing or apartments. This sucker is a Cat-6!" TALK - Well, Zack was the one using darkness. Maybe in the KH universe, Zack is Sephiroth.

Nitrous X Talk! — Then I shall make you see...That your hopes are nothing. Nothing but a mere illusion! Don't I even warrant a hello, Lexaeus? Well that would be quite interesting. Good theory.

Faythoffenrir - "In the arena of logic, I fight unarmed. - Red Mage Statcowski TALK - 01:13, January 17, 2010 (UTC) Anyone have a video of this part? Maybe it would make more sense if we saw it. Also, as a Final Fantasy fan, this kind of sounds like what happened with Zack's death in Crisis Core, only the feathers were Angeal's and were white.

Nitrous X Talk! — Then I shall make you see...That your hopes are nothing. Nothing but a mere illusion! Don't I even warrant a hello, Lexaeus? You can see it here, at the bottom of the page, at the bottom of Xiggie's message.

The Black Feather, Sephiroth or Sephirnot?

Alright. Now why does everyone have to think that the black feather isn't Sephiroth's? Werehog 2:55 PM 2/14/2010 (UTC)

Kingdomzachdawg The truth is, Ansem, I just can't stand your foul stench. — 23:01, February 14, 2010 (UTC) Two reasons:1 It might belong to Genesis Rapsody (I think thats his name?) and 2 It hasn't been confirmed, so it has no place on the wiki. Done and done.

I too also believe it could be Sephiroth, but until it is confirmed we cannot add that to the article. This wiki has a no speculation policy. Also, proof is indeed needed to back up such an acqusation.--Xion4ever 23:03, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Not done, and not done by a long shot! What makes you think it belongs to Genesis? He isn't even in the game. Werehog 3:05 PM 2/14/2010 (UTC)

Who knows...Maybe one day he will.--NinjaSheik 23:08, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Kingdomzachdawg The truth is, Ansem, I just can't stand your foul stench. — 23:09, February 14, 2010 (UTC) WE actually think it might be Seph's, but it hasn't been confirmed. And so what if Genesis aint in the game? Zack wasn't in the series till BBS

@ Werehog: Calm down, don't get aggressive and upset about this. Doing so will only bring trouble.

Secondly, we cannot add Sephiroth's link in until we have actual, confirmed proof! No speculation.--Xion4ever 23:10, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't matter. If it isn't confirmed that the feather is from Sephiroth, then no matter how likely it may be it cannot be in the article. It is not confirmed that the feather is his.--Lapis ofthe Night 23:12, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Kingdomzachdawg The truth is, Ansem, I just can't stand your foul stench. — 23:12, February 14, 2010 (UTC) I second that, Xion. If it's not confirmed, it has no place on the wiki. I've learned that. If you continue this, you may get a warning.

KingdomKeyDarkside - A scattered dream that's like a far-off memory. A far off memory that's like a scattered dream. TALK - I want to line the pieces up, yours, and mine.23:14, February 14, 2010 (UTC) Well, I think it's Sephiroth's. 1. Sephiroth killing Zack gives Cloud a reason to try and find him in KHI and II. 2. Sephiroth has a whole wing of black feathers, they're most likely his.