Hey, we have a vandal here (Ggu35). You want to stomp him out? Belinda-Rikku 05:26, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Methinks this is going to be an interesting night...he apparently has no life. BebopKate 07:32, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Ooh what did he do? Marexl 08:25, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
He went to the trouble of creating a new username, so I blocked him again. Hopefully that took care of his IPs, but I'm keeping an eye on things just in case... BebopKate 08:31, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
that did not do a thing to me. i just changed the IP so yeah you suck. if you block me again ill just change the IP again. its useless. Ggu35
He's back. Guardian Soul 03:14, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Oh Gawd stop being a jerk and leave before I get angry (Twards Spamer). You know why he is doing this? Marexl 05:09, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Probably because he has no life. I have let the Wikia admins know of what's going on, and they're helping us keep an extra close eye on this guy and his IPs. In the meantime, just keep reverting with the best of them. ^_^ BebopKate 05:34, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Troisnyxetienne - Toi, tu t’es bien amusé au premier étage. Alors maintenant c’est mon tour TALK - Aw, do I have to ?
Eliskuya2 changed the page again. Same line, same error - from "Don't I even warrant a hello" to "Don't I even get a hello". What's going on ?? Now I dare not switch it back to the original line because the same minor edit is gonna happen again.
I went to the Roxas page and found that it's been vandalised. While I help restore it, please search the vandal for me ! Thanks !
By the way, the vandal is going under several IP addresses : 99.146.12.162, 69.180.48.254, and 69.180.51.53
Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne
I need some gameplay help for Re: Chain of Memories, if you can oblige. I can't beat Ursula, I keep trying and I can't do it. Any advice? Drake Clawfang 02:57, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Well, the main problem I find is I'm running out of cards too fast. I use to stock magic and three Cloud cards, but I found I ended up wasting them, so now I'm stocking a lot of attack cards, along with a few Potions and Cures. She still kicks my ass. Drake Clawfang 03:04, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Oh, what part in Agribah are you stuck at, maybe I can help? Drake Clawfang 03:04, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Well in general, I largely find summon cards useless, but that's me. Seriously, for your deck I'd use mid-powered cards like 4-7s. Then when you stock them in threes, it adds up and the combo is stronger than a single high-powered card, but you save the deck cost. Also, for bosses, including Jafar, have several 0 cards on hand to break their sleights, makes life a lot easier. Drake Clawfang 03:17, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Ha ha, I beat the bitch! It was mostly luck, though. The mouse ear (counter) cards were key, they stun her long enough for me to land combos. Three Wishes helped a lot, ending my combos with that really helped boost the damage. Well, good luck to you! ^_^ Drake Clawfang 03:52, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Deck Building
Found this in a FAQ on-line, it works pretty well. Try it.
6x Assorted Keyblade Cards (Value of 8)
9x Assorted Keyblade Cards (Value of 7)
2x Standard Keyblade cards (Value of 0) for counters
1x Cure (Value of 6 at least)
1x Hi-Potion (any Value)
1x Cure (Value of 6 at least)
1x Megalixir (any Value)
1x Cure (Value of 6 at least)
1x Potion (any Value)
1x Maleficent (optional)
Total CP Required: 700 (625 without Maleficent)
Deck should be assembled as layed out: 8 Card Counts first, then
7's, then 0's, etc.
The point of this deck is based around the Sleight Sonic Blade, which is attained at level 28 This Sleight is done by having 3 different Keyblade cards totaling between 20 and 23.
Start any fight by using the Maleficent card if you have it. After that page to the last 8 card you have, Sleight that together with 2 7's to create Sonic Blade and unleash it. Keep grouping Sleights together, using the 8's first and then filling with 7's. After you get 4 Sleights in you'll have 2 8's and a single 7 left over, Sleight all of those together to do a final. Sonic Blade will keep the opponent stunned and prevent them from countering.
Depending on the fight you can choose one of 2 different paths, you can either draw out your deck length by reloading and attacking with the 9 7's that you will have left, getting another 3 Sleights in.
If you choose to reload or not, when ready Sleight a Hi-Potion with a single cure card, then use it (press both L1 and R1 to use a 2 card Sleight,) during an enemies attack that you can break with the combined value. They will recoil causing your potion to go off 100% of the time, they might break your cure but the cure aspect is a moot point to increase the card value of the potions.
Once your deck is fully reloaded with a Hi-potion repeat the previous steps of Sleighting together everything you have, Reload again if necessary to prolong, then Sleight together your Megalixir and another cure during the enemies attack.
optional step to increase life span of deck*
Take all of your reloaded cards and use standard attacks, this is where your Maleficent enemy card will come into affect, increasing the damage of all of your attacks significantly. Once you run out of cards Sleight your final potion and 2 Cures, which will have been reloaded with your Megalixir This will reload your spent cards and create a cura, healing you for any damage incurred during using regular attacks.
With your final rotation, use Sleights again until you run out. Reload if necessary but as long as most of your Sleights hit almost nothing will survive.
Your 0 keys are meant for Sleights that the opponent uses that total higher then 20, as your Sonic Blade Sleights will either cancel each other out or fail, negating a high amount of damage you can deal.
Update - This deck kicks ass, I just used it to make Vexen my bitch. ^_^. Drake Clawfang 05:34, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
I just realized a huuuuuge problem: the Twilight Town category. Because the forum uses that same name, the forum topics in the forum are showing up in the category alongside the mainspace articles like Setzer and Seifer. Drake Clawfang 05:35, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Bugger. How'd we miss that? Hmm...I guess we can change the Forum topics to a Twilight Town Forum category? It's a bit late for me to work on now, but I'll help you with it when I get back from work late tomorrow evening... BebopKate 06:25, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
I can change the current forum topics to the new category, but the auto-categorization when starting a new topic has to be changed too. I've no clue how to do that. Drake Clawfang 06:27, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, me neither. I'll tinker with it tomorrow. Right now, it's too late for me to do much more than sit here, drink my soda water, try to get "One-Winged Angel" out of my head, and think about my nice, fluffy bed. ^_^ BebopKate 06:29, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Actually, just tried changing the category. To change the category, we'd have to change the forum header at the top of the topic, and to make that work, we have to move the entire forum to a new namespace. But if we're gonna move it to a new namespace, maybe we could rename the forum entirely so this doesn't happen again? Drake Clawfang 06:34, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Sounds good enough to give it a try. Worst thing that happens is we revert it if it doesn't work and ask for help. BebopKate 06:39, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Cool. I hafta head to bed soon, but in the morning if you wanna move the forum to a new namespace, I'll be willing to change the topic headers appropriately. Drake Clawfang 06:41, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
The forum is now the Twilight Town Library. Looks like we're going to have to move the articles some other way...sigh. Work is pretty early and pretty long, but I will be by at some point to help. Have a good night's sleep, and thanks for finding this! BebopKate 06:50, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
No need for thanks, I am a servant of the world wiki, after all. ;) Drake Clawfang 06:52, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Okie dokie, I'm in the process of moving the forum topics to the new category. Just one more thing - when you click the "new topic" link in the forums, the header isn't showing up in the edit window. Do you know how to fix that? Drake Clawfang 17:17, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Nevermind, figured it out. ^_^ Drake Clawfang 17:18, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Someone asked me to help, but I don't know how
Please go see my talk page. One of our users (Eliskuya2) has been threatened by another user - who actually happens not to have a KHWiki page. And this person is apparently asking him to stop "editing too much" or he'll be banned.
Can you please help me ? It'd be very much appreciated. :)
Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne
Dear me. Never mind. I've got it under control. :)
Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne
Ah, I see. ^_^ Not really a KH Wiki issue, but thanks for looking out for others nonetheless. BebopKate 03:29, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
*blush* well. it's only right to.
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New Article
I just created the Memory article and was wondering if you had any ideas for improving it. Drake Clawfang 01:17, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
Wow...that's pretty bloody awesome actually. Nothing I can see right now...just may need to change as more info about the games come out as always. Nicely done. BebopKate 02:41, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
Cool, thank you! Drake Clawfang 02:54, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - {{{time}}}
And now we have someone who's removing all content from pages: 68.95.134.115
Problem With a User
Can you explain to me what Eliskuya's problem is? I tried to speak to him several times, once just to admonish him and other times to offer help to him. All times, no matter what I had to say, he ignored my messages and removed them from his talk page, and this is seriously irritating me. What's his deal? Drake Clawfang 06:16, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Looking at his talk page history, it's not just me. Pretty much anyone who leaves him a message is ignored and has their message removed. I know Admins aren't supposed to police talk pages, but can you do something? I find this incredibly rude to other users and myself that he would act like this. Drake Clawfang 06:25, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I know what your talking about. She removed my messages not only on her/his talk page, but on somebody else's. PhilipMccann 07:55, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
I've experienced that too. As one of his/her friends, I find it weird that this is happening. My dialogues were removed on his/her talk page once, and also on Bowser the Second's talk page. Is there a way to resolve this as amicably as possible (rather than blocking or the like) ?
Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne
Drake Clawfang - Anger and hate are supreme....power and control are pretty nice too. TALK - 16:07, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
She's removing messages on other people's talk pages too? Okay, I know that's against the rules, besides just being d!ckish.
I seriously wonder what could have gone wrong. I mean, everytime a part of the text is removed (especially mine), I wonder whether it was something I said.
Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne
Drake Clawfang - Anger and hate are supreme....power and control are pretty nice too. TALK - 16:15, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
I felt the same way when I left him a couple messages and removed them. It bothered me, like "what did I do?". Then I saw an edit to his userpage about "only accepting messages from his friends", and realized he was just being a jerk about it. As I said to Guardian Soul on the talk page:
"I try to have a friendly conversation with him, he ignores me, I ask why, he ignores me, I tell him I'm gonna report him to an Admin, he ignores me.....you tell me how I should feel."
Ow. That's..... sad. Thing is, he's lightened up towards me, no doubt, but the erasing of messages still continues. Sometimes we seriously wonder how to approach this class of people.
Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne
Drake Clawfang - Anger and hate are supreme....power and control are pretty nice too. TALK - 16:23, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm not even sure he was reading my messages before removing them. They got taken off the page too soon after I left them for them to be read.
Methinks he read them before removing. See, what happened yesterday was this : I helped Bowser the Second with his talk bubble/infobox template. It so happened that he pilfered Eliskuya2's template. And when I actually authorised it and said "share alike" - and told him how to configure the talk bubble and stuff, that message was removed. For the sake of clarity, I had to retype my message (it was long !) and instead of allowing him to touch Eliskuya2's templates, I allowed him to touch mine.
Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne
Drake Clawfang - Anger and hate are supreme....power and control are pretty nice too. TALK - 16:42, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Ah. Well, I can respect the reason, but not the action. Removing messages on talk pages other than your own still isn't a rule. And even if it isn't, it's still rude.
I also saw the message you left him on Xigbar's page. That's what I wanted to talk to him about too, his talk template. I offered to show him that he doesn't have to type out all that coding, but he ignored me, I asked why he removed my message, he ignored me, and it escalated.
Yeowch. Did he have to be that harsh ?
I tried switching it to the normal talk bubble input (without all the coding) but it didn't seem to work.
Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne
Drake Clawfang - Anger and hate are supreme....power and control are pretty nice too. TALK - 16:51, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Oh, it's better, look at his user page. He has a hate list now in addition to a friend list. I had a hate list on my FF wiki page once, felt bad about it after a couple weeks and took it down.
Even now, I repeated to him that all I ever wanted was to talk to him about his talk bubble. He's yet to respond, and I sincerely doubt he will.
Anyway, I have to head out for a little bit, seeya in 15 min or so.
Sure. Catcha soon. Provided that I'm not asleep by then. Hit me at my talk page to continue. And BebopKate, if you're seeing this...... hope something can be done.
Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne
It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - {{{time}}}
"Quite honestly, you wrote right at the top of your discussion page telling people to come and talk to you, and if you're going to ignore the people who write on your wall, then you really should get rid of it, you're just being rude to the community. You definately should not be writing a list of jerks on your user page or deleting content on other people's discussion pages, if you don't like discussion pages, get your discussion page deleted, you're the one being a jerk by acting this way when people are only trying to help you."
That's what I wrote on his wall. He then deleted the message, but he also got rid of the hate list.
Wow. So it was you who did that ? I salute you man. :-) Wonder how you got all the courage to tell him !
Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne
It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - {{{time}}}
I have to be able to speak my opinions, I'm a mod at KHI, so I do that often. :)
Drake Clawfang - Anger and hate are supreme....power and control are pretty nice too. TALK - 17:24, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
I applaude you, sir.
For a moment there I thought I was going to be in deep trouble for discussing here (because I keep a tab on Eliskuya2's page), but well. Guess our conscience is clear now.
Oh yeah, forgot you're a mod.
Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...{{{time}}}
Oy gevalt.
No this is certainly not the first time I have had issues with his talk page. Somewhere in his talk history are two warnings and a message from myself saying "Archive if you must, but stop clearing your talk page." Looks like it's time to settle this.
Drake Clawfang - Anger and hate are supreme....power and control are pretty nice too. TALK - 05:49, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
You mean offer him a sacrifice to Illmater?
....sorry, I finished Icewind Dale II like, ten minutes ago, so I'm still in D&D mode. :p
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...{{{time}}}
Alright, messages are placed. Let's see if we can work this out from here.
But, seriously folks, if someone asks you to stop leaving messages for them, just stop; it doesn't do anything other than aggravate them and make a situation worse. If it's something dire, we'll work it out. I mean, it's a wiki. It's not like everything we type comes to life, which is too bad. Because if it did, I would be chillin' at Destiny Islands with a cold drink instead of waking up at 7am every morning to go to work.
Speaking of which, now to crawl upstairs to bed before I go to slezzzzzzzzzz...
Drake Clawfang - Anger and hate are supreme....power and control are pretty nice too. TALK - 06:26, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Hold that thought, BK. He removed your message. Seems he didn't learn a thing.
Edit - I put the message back, five bucks says he removes it again. Ban him, I say at this point. If he's not going to listen to an Admin, he's not going to listen. Actions speak louder than words, so they say. Give him a day ban, hopefully that smartens him up.
Edit - As I was typing this message, he did indeed remove it again. Honestly, please ban him. We have better things to do with our time than police around this kid. He hasn't learned a thing, cut him loose.
Oh pitié, doesn’t he ever learn ?
Okay, if you have to act, if you have to give him the Zack Fair treatment, do as you see fit. Now, not a word of this to him. Never even tell him that I'm partaking in the discussion. I wouldn't want to sever ties with anyone.
Damn it, I feel bad. Just like, a few weeks ago I helped him outside the KHWiki, and today we're talking about this............
Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne
Drake Clawfang - Anger and hate are supreme....power and control are pretty nice too. TALK - 18:29, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
I also ask, ban or no, that those silly little riddles be removed from his page. I'm tired of dealing with this kid.
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...{{{time}}}
Given him a week to think things over. If he comes back and resumes his old habits, out he goes.
Geez, thought I'd given up all this drama when I stopped teaching. Ah well...c'est la internet! (With apologies to Troisnyxetienne for butchering the French language there. ^_^)
^_^ "Butchering" is too strict a word. You just gave it a minor cut. C'est l'internet... ! and I hope he learns that quickly enough.
Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne
Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— {{{time}}}
Hello, quite recently, I tried to give a tip to Eliskuya2 on his talk page, he used it and then erased it... I think that's rude, he didn't even say thanks or anything. Just saying this to you since you're having this discussion.
oh dear. That's sad. I mean, at least give the other user a thank you or something !
Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne
Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— {{{time}}}
I just hope that when he returns, he'll apologize to everyone and starts to be a "good" boy! because he is a fine editor, and the more of us the better, right :P
And even if I had to, I honestly feel bad about giving him the Zack Fair treatment.
(There's another user, Zack Fair 007, who was banned for one month from KHWiki, and wrote a complete apology note on his userpage and left it for... I don't know how long. He's a fine editor too - only that right now, I don't know his whereabouts.)
Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne
Drake Clawfang - Anger and hate are supreme....power and control are pretty nice too. TALK - 19:08, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Zack Fair 007? He's on the Final Fantasy Wiki too, does the same sort of thing. Two or three times now, he's thrown a temper tantrum, screamed at people, let a message on his page he was leaving the Wiki, and comes back a week or so later to apologize. He's done it several times, I don't even take it seriously anymore when it happens.
(And he was hoping to meet me for an entirely French chat on my talk page !)
Which reminds me... I'm starting to wonder why no one dares yell at me, but when they get out of the KHWiki or when they approach other users, all the yelling begins. :-(
Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne
Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— {{{time}}}
Eh, ditto! ;D
I was in a badmood so that's why my sister removed that stuff on my page don't ask anyway i'll just wait on a site when I get unbanned72.208.118.127 14:48, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Understood. I mean, sometimes, it takes quite a bit of self-control. I tell myself not to edit whenever I'm in a bad mood. But hey, guess things will go well once you return :-)
Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne
Hmmm! and Troisnyxet I was right after all xigbar was on that movie with terra,van and aqua I have the picture on my PC but I can't update it just yet I'll wait for a bit longer72.208.118.127 15:30, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
That's great. Would like to see it once you're back. :-) Xiggie just asked permission from BK here about putting up a pic of "the new unknown" in KH:Coded, so I reckon if you just ask her once you return, then I guess she'll allow.
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well lets get bebop hurry up then72.208.118.127 15:53, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Wait : BK : when does Eliskuya get back ?
Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne
yeah this is a long banned and I have a picture of xigbar72.208.118.127 16:00, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...{{{time}}}
Eliskuya was banned for a week, beginning sometime last Wednesday evening. So at some point on this Wednesday evening, his ban will be lifted.
And you seem to be missing that the whole point of the ban was to give you time to stop and think about your actions towards the other editors of the wiki, Eliskuya, myself included. The entire conversation above us is testament to that. Technically, I should have banned your IP as soon as you posted above, but since you seem to be willing to be constructive again, I will let it slide. When your ban runs out on Wednesday, you can rejoin us as normal.
Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— {{{time}}}
Hello. Some days ago, I noticed a change in the Sora, Kairi, Donald, Keyblade and Kingdom Hearts article (see Sora, Kairi, Donald, Keyblade and Kingdom Hearts. It was made by someone, his/her IP/username is 84.74.6.128. Me and some other users fixed it (by undoing his/her work) but I think that someone (you?) should ban him/her from the wikia OR give him/her a warning (so that he/she won't do it again)...
Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— {{{time}}}
However, it looks like he/she only entered the wikia to do this and then he/she left... What I want to know, can he/she return and do it again (he/she has a user account, right?)
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...{{{time}}}
Hi, Xiggie...welcome to the wiki. Anyone is free to come and go through the wiki and edit unless they've been blocked, which it appears XienZo has beaten me to. However, some people can change those IP addresses and can come back with a new address and edit again. It does happen from time to time; the best thing you is exactly what you did: revert the edits and alert myself or XienZo so we can deal with them.
Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— {{{time}}}
Hello again, seems that someone has mede a page called Kiri! I am pretty sure that someone just misspelled Kairi and created a new page! A bit later, I saw this Kiri name in the list of revealed characters in Birth by Sleep. I think that you should delete the Kiri page :P
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...{{{time}}}
Thanks, got it. ^_^
An unknown user named 72.208.118.127 was vandalising articles hopefully you can help.Dark one 01:57, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— {{{time}}}
hello. I have found a few scans of Kingdom hearts Coded (see 1, 2) and I think that we should put up a picture of "the new unknown" (as I like to call him) on the Kingdom Hearts Coded page (or at least the talk page!)
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...{{{time}}}
On the Coded page? Fine by me. A simple caption for the screenshot please, though...no nicknames until we get something official. I've already been through that debate enough. ^_^
Seriously, I don't mind screenshots of new games at all, as long as they're official and of a decent resolution. Heck, I like to see them, too. Just remember at some point (probably the next major Birth by Sleep and/or 358/2 Days update), we should start spoiler-marking everything new.
Enemy Ships Ahoy!
ShadowXemnas - Nothingness...is...ETERNAL!!! TALK - Turn to Darkness!
Hello! I just finished creating pages for all the wanted enemy Gummi Ships of Kingdom Hearts II. That oughta make your job a little easier. :)
I spotted another vandal...
ShadowXemnas just undid the changes made by this recent vandal (his IP is 136.145.89.79).
This is how it was before ShadowXemnas edited it and alerted me.
Please take him out. Thanks.
Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...{{{time}}}
Pffft...I'm more annoyed at the lack of grammar than the content, but it's done all the same. ^_^
Can you have a chat with Guardian Soul please. He's adamant on adding spaces between the bullet points in the trivia section of Zexion's page, when adding those spaces doesn't change the page's appearance in any appreciable way. It's just pointless excess coding, but he seems to think it makes a big difference. Drake Clawfang 04:04, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Nevermind, he's not backing down and I've better things to do than fight for something so trivial. Drake Clawfang 04:10, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - {{{time}}}
Take a look at my talk page, I print screened my proof. Clearly, adding spaces between the trivia sentances makes a difference. I had a hard time figuring out which facts were different sentances, and surely others will too. Just because it doesn`t bother Drake doesn`t mean that it won`t be bothering other people, and it really isn`t a big deal to keep them seperated, so he should stop reverting them.
See, here's the thing, before I leave to eat my dinner. Maybe there's other people who preferred the non-spaced version, and maybe to other people it is a big to keep them separated. I don't see what qualifies you to speak for what other people would prefer, which is why I brought this to an Admin. Drake Clawfang 04:17, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - {{{time}}}
Having them so close together makes them look like one paragraph, which is wrong, because every new paragraph is supposed to be on every other line, that`s just how it works, it isn`t about preference. Also, I think that Drake`s statement about people preferring them without spaces is ridiculous, seeing as how his argument in the first place was that spacing them makes no difference (which is wrong), which means that he didn`t even notice to even care if they were spaced or not.
I looked at the page before I edited it, and didn't notice the difference. Shows you how important it was. And if you want to get technical, paragraphs are also indented, I believe there's a certain length and structure they must be...point - the Trivia points aren't in paragraph format, and shouldn't be. Drake Clawfang 04:44, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - {{{time}}}
Guess what? Some people notice the difference, and some people get lost trying to read two different facts that are right on top of eachother, I did, which is exactly why it was a problem, which is exactly why it should be fixed. Your way, there is a flaw that will get some readers lost, where is the flaw in spacing them? I feel like you just want the spaces excluded so that you can get your way, it really makes no sense to leave it where some people could have a bit of trouble. I`m going to bed anyways, admins can handle it, goodnight.
And your wanting the spaces included isn't because you want your way? Drake Clawfang 05:02, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - {{{time}}}
Of course not, it`s about making it easier for people to follow. Now I really have to go, later.
And for me it's about adding unnecessary coding and spacing to a page that looked fine before. Point is, I simply disagree with you. You prefer the page one way, I disagree. Drake Clawfang 05:33, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Guys, guys, please ! Instead of you two adding tension to this talk page, let BebopKate resolve it. I can't be having two good friends of mine in loggerheads with each other over a matter of spacing !
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...{{{time}}}
You two do realize you have added more to the database through the above than any amount of adding or taking away spacing would have, right? ^_^
I think I have a suggestion that will resolve (most) of this issue. Instead of having a massive trivia section, how about integrating the information there into more appropriate areas in Zexion's article? Most of it will fit in the other sections or can be made into other sections, and we won't be stuck with a massive cluttered bullet list at the bottom of the page. Then, having a space between everything for readability wouldn't be as much of an issue when viewed in either regular or coding mode.
I'll be back late tomorrow due to work/hobby/friends, but I'll check in at some point. I hope you two are able to work this out in the interim.
Drake Clawfang - Anger and hate are supreme....power and control are pretty nice too. TALK - 06:35, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
I'll try that and see what I can do.
You bring up another good point, Kate - some articles have horribly bloated Trivia sections. Axel is an excellent example of this.
It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - {{{time}}}
That sounds reasonable, if the trivia facts weren't so long, they wouldn't look so close together. There's quite a few to fix though. Also, trois, don't worry about it. I have nothing against Drake personally, it's only wiki business and nothing more.
Phew. For a moment there it seemed heated.
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...{{{time}}}
Looks good, guys...much easier to read now. I'm kind of glad y'all brought this up, since I agree that some of the Trivia sections are ridiculously huge. It gives us something else to improve upon.
Eliskuya
Drake Clawfang - Anger and hate are supreme....power and control are pretty nice too. TALK - 22:55, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
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Drake Clawfang - Anger and hate are supreme....power and control are pretty nice too. TALK - 01:37, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
I dunno. I left him a message about grammar and apostrophe uses, he said it wasn't him (the edit histories show it was him, of course), I pointed that out, and he said he was leaving. He proceeded to blank his user and talk pages.
This is sad!
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...{{{time}}}
Maybe he feels he needs a break from the wiki for now. If he chooses not to share his reasons with us, its his business, though I hope its nothing serious. And if he wants to come back and help us out, he's certainly welcome to. That's the good thing about wikis...you can always come back when things calm down.
I guess. We'll have to give him some space.
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Drake Clawfang - Anger and hate are supreme....power and control are pretty nice too. TALK - 21:44, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Well, seems he's not gone, and he's still got that habit of removing messages. Hm....
Which section were you talking about ?
I'm not sure where to vote in the Votes for Featured Media page. I'm a little lost.
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...{{{time}}}
Underneath the bit that says "Nominations are closed". I realized how stupid it sounded after I'd saved it, but I was too tired to think of anything better. ^_^
Ultima - Cake and grief counseling will be available at the conclusion of the test.
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...{{{time}}}
Yeah, that works, too. ^_^
I'm just happy people are actually paying attention to that page, truth be told.
Image
Drake Clawfang - Anger and hate are supreme....power and control are pretty nice too. TALK - 07:13, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
Currently, this is the image being used in the Xemnas (Armor) article. Another user has uploaded this image to replace it twice. Which image should we use? I'd personally prefer the first, since it illustrates the in-game concept and not the artwork - we had artwork used on the page before and people didn't like it.
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...{{{time}}}
Leaving a message on his talk page. Might need to add something to the wiki Manual of Style about this, if it's not already there as well...
Also occurs to me we'll probably need to go clean out the art section again sometime soon. -_-
ETA: Okay, tinkered with the manual of style to add a media section. Additions or suggestions are welcome. ^_^
It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - {{{time}}}
I personally think that the artwork looks better, it seems more clear and official, but if it must be in-game we should at least add the artwork to the pages as well, either somewhere along the article or in a gallery at the bottom. Oh and, btw, speaking of Xemnas. I got my friend to go through the official KH2 strategy guide, and apparently the fight with the big dragon ship was never named the "Dragoon Ship," they just called it "Xemnas (Dragon)." If Dragoon Ship isn't official, should we really give it that title? It may have actually been called that at the start screen though, I should go check and see. EDIT: Alright, I checked, and the start screen doesn't call it "Dragoon Ship" either, so I don't know where this name was taken from.
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...{{{time}}}
If the artwork vs. render is going be an issue again, perhaps its time for a community vote? It is a wiki, things can change. ^_^ I myself confess a love for the artwork, but I also see where it's more consistent and easier to connect when something appears as it does in the game.
Honestly, I have no clue where Dragoon Ship came from...Ultimania, maybe? Anyone want to enlighten us? Incidentally, the official guide calls the Armored Xemnas battle "Xemnas on the throne". Oh, the jokes we could make... ^_^
Drake Clawfang - Anger and hate are supreme....power and control are pretty nice too. TALK - 19:25, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
I used the term "Dragoon ship" because that's the name I saw in the boss template. As for the artwork, the page now has a gallery on the bottom that displays both pieces of artwork we have.
It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - {{{time}}}
We should still have a vote, I personally think that the artwork looks fantastic.
As for the guide, I'm pretty sure that the Xemnas forms were given names in the back of the book, if you have it you should look yourself. The problem with "Dragoon Ship" is that we might be giving it an official name that's false.
Featured media voting
Ultima - Cake and grief counseling will be available at the conclusion of the test.
Are you alowed to vote for something that you nominated, since trois done it? I thought you would not be able to, since a nomination is like a vote. -Shake it- Metro Station
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...{{{time}}}
Maybe trois didn't see the voting section. No big deal...it's not like us sysops would count a user's vote twice anyway when they only can vote once.
We're going to have to get used to the voting thing again, so there will probably be some kinks here and there.
Ehehehe. Sorry. ^_^ I'll remember that next time.
EDIT : Say, I've got an idea ! Why not, after the nominations are closed, the sysop set up a poll widget which includes all the nominations, and then we all vote ? Fair and square, isn't it ? Better than the confusion of this current voting system.
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Prior to my edits, from whatever info I saw there, that article was talking about a world, and not a Heartless. But all the templates at the bottom of the page are Heartless/enemy templates.
Please do check it out... and let me know what I should do next. Should I proceed to remove the Heartless-related templates ?
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...{{{time}}}
Yeah, I would remove the Heartless template. Come to think of it, is Oblivion World the offical name?
Ye gads, I sound like a broken record... ^_^
I don't even know. All I do know is that it's the place where the door to Kingdom Hearts was found.
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It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - {{{time}}}
Oblivion World is not a Heartless, it's just where the fight with Xehanort's Heartless takes place. Same thing with Xemnas and Inexistent World, I don't know who thought they were Heartless, but they're wrong.
Well, looks like we haven't got our facts wrong...
Do us a favour, will you ? I think BebopKate has already taken out the Heartless templates (though I haven't checked the page myself). Please place location templates instead - like the ones you see at Awakening - thanks !
EDIT: Sorry. That was me. LOL. ^_^
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I nominate that we use this image, because it's better quality than the current one Final XemnasBowser the Second 11:08, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...{{{time}}}
If its an improved image, you certainly don't need my permission to upload it. ^_^
Re: CoM cards
Heya everyone. New here for a while and I did some work on this wikia i'm sure some of you had noticed ^^;. anyways. I was hoping if someone could help me with something.
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...{{{time}}}
Hey, HeartlessSlayer. What can we help you with? (And make sure to sign your entries so I don't have to look you up in my page history. ^_-)
HeartlessSlayer:Yeah, that's an example of how i'm new, still trying to get the hang of it such as decorating my user page and giving myself an image to identify myself XD;;. So if you can help show me how that would be great ^^. Anyways, you know the card images from the exact game of CoM that's on here? I was hoping if someone could help get some images of the cards from the remake of the game. I actually wanna try something but I need a good reference of the cards. I don't wanna make ones that look cheap. Sorry, i just pay attention to detail ^^;.
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...{{{time}}}
I don't think we have any captures of the cards from Re:Chain of Memories yet. Not sure if anyone is planning on doing any at this point, but keep your eyes peeled. Sounds like you're doing a cosplay or something... ^_^
And if your looking for a nice talk box, I know the lovely Troisnyxetienne has made a bunch of equally lovely premade ones for anyone to use/alter.
HeartlessSlayer: thanks, i'll contact him/her whenever i can ^^. Thanks ^^, i really hope to get this all figured out myself soon XD. Anyways, the reason why I need the references is because I wanna try and make some cards for the Deep Jungle world and make a story for it that I hope will connect to the CoM game. I know it sounds stupid, but to me its one of my most favourite worlds, and while i understand why it got removed, it just feels empty without the world, such as Halloween Town not being in the mangas, which is also weird O_O. So i know i got a good chance for that, but for the original sprite style of the CoM game, forget it XD;;. I can't do anything with that, and while i did find some actual reference, they're not mine and I don;t want to use them without permission. Plus, it wouldn;t feel complete until the characters have their own dialogue images like that person you've shown me has. does that make sense?
KHWiki general issues
What's that "AJAX" checkbox on the Recent Changes page all about ? o.O
Oh, meanwhile, I've done up a few of the Userbox categories - go take a look. Although I just don't know what to do about the language userboxes. I'm blank.
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...{{{time}}}
Beats me...I'm afraid to click it lest the wiki explode. ^_^
Thanks for fixing up the categories. I believe the language levels each get their own categories. At least, that's the way I've seen it done on other wikis.
ShadowXemnas - Nothingness...is...ETERNAL!!! TALK - Turn to Darkness!
Hello! I've put a note on the Armored Xemnas Talk page about a new quote he's got. Can you check it out?
Story Organization Idea
ShadowXemnas - Nothingness...is...ETERNAL!!! TALK - Turn to Darkness!
Hey, BebopKate. I have a question for you. See, I'm going to be putting up a more detailed version of my character's story for the Kingdom Hearts Legacy thing that some of the other users have come up with, but I'm worried that the sheer length of it may break a few profile page rules. So, I was wondering if it would be okay if I wrote the story on Microsoft Word, then (Somehow) created links to those documents on my non-canon characters' page. Would it?
Also, I keep hearing Trois call you a Sysop on various occasions. What's a Sysop?
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...{{{time}}}
Sure, no problem, as long as your link doesn't violate the ToS, blah blah blah and so on. I appreciate your thinking ahead, actually. ^_^ Not sure about a site that would let you link to a .doc file, but I'm sure they're out there; even if it's just another webpage, that's fine.
Sysop = System Operator. Basically another fancy word for staff, mod, admin, and so on. I think on wikis, it specifically refers to people with banning and blocking powers.
ShadowXemnas - Nothingness...is...ETERNAL!!! TALK - Turn to Darkness!
Got it. I'll look around.
That's interesting. It's a pretty neat nickname, I suppose.
EDIT: Guess what? I thought of an idea. what if I created a seperate wikispace for my character's story, then linked it to my page in the same manner you guys make links to the FFWiki? I think it might be my best bet, if it works.
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...{{{time}}}
That might work...not sure how freely Wikia gives out space for wikis, but it might be worth a shot. A free blog might also be a cool idea, you can update the character's story and stats as he improves.
ShadowXemnas - Nothingness...is...ETERNAL!!! TALK - Turn to Darkness!
Hmm....That blog idea sounds interesting (If only I knew how a blog works, or how to make one...). If I could mke one, it would work well in that respect. Thanks for the tip.
Also, If you have any comments about my character, let me know.
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...{{{time}}}
Well, I'm all old and don't know nothin' about no blogosphere, but I know we have quite a few editors with blogs...I'll bet they can help you out. ^_^
Wow, that's one detailed character. The only thing I can suggest is a little more on your character's personality, since that's the part of your character others are going to be seeing the most in the game.
You people make me pine for my days of tabletop RPGs. *goes off muttering something about "young whippersnappers"...*
ShadowXemnas - Nothingness...is...ETERNAL!!! TALK - Turn to Darkness!
I've been thinking about how to describe his personality (And have tried on various occasions), but I can't think of anything specific. I suppose he's a little like me, but I can't think of anything else....I suppose I'll leave it up to the others to describe his personality.
BebopK sama
I have some good news and bads news. I'll tell you the good news. its good to be back and as for the bad news someone is adding fan art to Anti Form and here is the picture: and thats fan artEliskuya2 02:04, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...{{{time}}}
Good to have you back, Eliskuya. And that is indeed fan art...thank you. ^_^
can you help me who ever is adding it to the page needs to be block :/Eliskuya2 17:10, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
KH Legacy
Saule - Keyblader of Darkness TALK - Dark in Every Light~Kurai
hola! im not sure if ive evr chatted with you but the names Saule (or tipero which evr you choose) and i was wonderin if you were a member of my site? (Kingdom Hearts Legacy)
Saule - Keyblader of Darkness TALK - Dark in Every Light~Kurai
okay gracias for the acknowledgement Bebop :) I really hope that sometime you could join the Legacy :) we'll be waiting lol.
Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— {{{time}}}
Komd nú blessuð og sæl - I was just looking over the recent changes list, and someone has made the page Paopu (about the papou fruit). Now, I think it should either be deleted or redirected to Paopu fruit
so, what do ya say?
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...{{{time}}}
I agree completely; I went ahead and did as you suggested. Kinda surprised we hadn't already, but ah well. Thanks!
Au secours !
I went and checked the Arch Wyvern link, hoping it'd redirect automatically to Wyvern, but it didn't. Something's wrong somewhere. And also, there's this P right above the Wyvern article - I suspect someone's trying to redirect, but failed. Think you could help us on this one ?
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...{{{time}}}
Ack, that was my bad on the redirect page...forgot to include something there. I think the "P" was just an accidental input somewhere from another edit;it was just stuck at the beginning of the enemy tables so it wasn't readily apparent on the edit page. Both are fixed now. Thanks for letting me know about them!
I found this image off Photobucket, and this doesn't look like a fan image at all. Only drawback is that it's black-and-white. Methinks it's one of those concept images.
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BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...{{{time}}}
Wow, that is a nice picture and it looks accurate enough. I suppose it's okay for now, but I'd like a source to go with it at some point. I don't suppose there's a way to contact the bucket owner and see where she got it from?
Eliskuya
He hasn't learned a thing. I let him a calm, polite message about some recent edits he made, and he removed the message when I told him not to do so as you have told him not to yourself. He removed it. I'm tired of dealing with this guy and his constant anti-social behavior, can you do something? He simply doesn't listen to reason. Drake Clawfang 02:02, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
EDIT - I also left him a message telling him I reported him. He hasn't as of this edit, but I will wager he removes that message as well. Drake Clawfang 02:03, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
He did, and is throwing another hissy fit claiming he's leaving. Considering he didn't leave last time he said he was, this time I'll wager he doesn't go anywhere. Either way, please talk to him. I'm tired of seeing people try to be nice to this guy and him ignore them. Drake Clawfang 02:06, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
I mean, seriously, what does he get out of removing conversations from talk pages ? Trying to save face ? I'm beginning to think otherwise. We all get rapped for one issue or another, it's part of life.
Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne
Drake Clawfang - Anger and hate are supreme....power and control are pretty nice too. TALK - 17:35, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
I think he's just anti-social, either that or he likes the attention removing comments gets him.
Well.... if he's anti-social, I can sympathise with him. But if he's attention-seeking...... I don't know. Now, I'd best not worry about this - I need to go slezzzzzz...
Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne
Drake Clawfang - Anger and hate are supreme....power and control are pretty nice too. TALK - 17:40, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
What I find amusing is that he once had a message on his talk page cheerfully inviting people to drop in and chat with him. Then someone asked why he had such a message when he never replies to comments and removes them, and he took the message down.
Just because we're kids doesn't mean we can't run a business— {{{time}}}
Guess he's anti-social!
Also, last time (after he got that week-ban) he said that his sister went to his computer and deleted all these things... bet that was a lie since he's apparently been doing it again and again :P
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...{{{time}}}
He's had his three chances. And I'm tired of the drama. He's out. And if he rides other IPs, I'll block those, too.
Very well then, Teacher... Darn, I'm feeling a little sorry for him.
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Drake Clawfang - Anger and hate are supreme....power and control are pretty nice too. TALK - 23:53, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
A year? Wow, wasn't expecting that. Another week, perhaps, but...I feel bad too now.
BebopKate - This one is Zazzles...because he's Zazzy! TALK - Here's your cat...and here's your $20...{{{time}}}
He knew what he had to do to stay, he knew he had one chance left, and he chose to do what he wanted instead. It was entirely up to him and he made a poor choice. I'm sorry he made that choice.
I certainly have patience for people who are learning how to edit or who might not understand what is expected of them, but I have little tolerance for those who are outright rude to others.
It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - {{{time}}}
He continued, and he should have known there would be consequences. All he did was cause unnecessary drama that could have been avoided. Sadly, he brought this ban upon himself, and I think his punishment is justified. Good work Kate.