How the world template should look.
The correct layout for worlds right now should be as followed:
Worlds introduced in Kingdom Hearts:
Destiny Islands | Disney Castle | Wonderland | Deep Jungle | Olympus Coliseum | Agrabah | 100 Acre Wood | Monstro | Atlantica | Halloween Town | Neverland | Hollow Bastion/Radiant Garden | End of the World
Worlds introduced in Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories:
Twilight Town | Castle Oblivion
Worlds introduced in Kingdom Hearts II:
The Land of Dragons | Beast's Castle | Timeless River | Sunset Horizons | Port Royal | Pride Lands | Space Paranoids | The World That Never Was
Worlds introduced in Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep:
Snow White's House | Enchanted Dominion | Castle of Dreams
This way, the worlds template is clean and simple. Worlds that are introduced should be named during the game of introduction. "The World That Never Was" did show up in the KH1 secret ending, but was only named in KHII, so it should be kept in the KHII section.
I also think I should note that some places being added to the list of worlds have no business being there.
Christmas Town:
Already part of Halloween Town, It's not a world all on It's own, so it shouldn't be included.
Underworld:
Already part of Olympus Coliseum, just another area added, but connected to the same world.
Yen Sid's Tower:
Currently part of Twilight Town, shouldn't be included as an extra world.
Swordman Island:
The world added to Kingdom Hearts V CAST. This was put into a game that had no involvement with Square Enix at all, and isn't even canon to the series, definately should be excluded.
Also, even though Hollow Bastion got renamed Radiant Garden in KHII, It's still the same world, so it should be written under the "Worlds introduced in Kingdom Hearts" section, and just put down as "Hollow Bastion/Radiant Garden".
I think the reasons for this list are valid, and that the template should be kept like this, unless of course, new worlds are announced. If anything else should be added, I think that the person who hopes to add that area should bring up a good reason beforehand, because this really should be the final list for now.
- My argument
You're right, it's not included in the main story and has no involvement with Square-Enix, but it's still a part of the series. The V Cast may be impopular, but since Swordman Island is a world introduced in a game that's still involved with the Kingdom Hearts games. Just the Caterpillar.
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KrytenKoro - "That's when we bumped into Hannity. Sean Hannity. See the thing about this dude is, at first he's fair, right? And you're like "Wow!" But then BOOM. The dude's balanced, too. And you're like, HOLY SHIT." TALK -
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Instead of using "introduced" (which has Radiant Garden in KH1, for example), why not just list the worlds that appear in each, like we do with bosses or keyblades?
Yen Sid's Tower is listed as a separate world from Twilight Town in Director's Secret Report XIII.
If Hollow Bastion gets to have both names, Halloween Town should have both names. They each get their own costume, I would say that's as close to a dual-world as we can get. Same with Underworld, if it is ever actually called a "world" in the game. The Coliseum does not include the Underworld, so one name shouldn't apply to both.
For Swordsman Island and the BBS worlds, why don't we have a "Other Worlds" bit for those worlds that have not been officially released, or don't really have their own section?
Does anyone think it would be a good idea to have a version of this that organizes them by realm? Light, In-between, Darkness? I could even set it up so that you can switch between versions by clicking a button
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KrytenKoro - Ṱ͐͒H̫̾̃E͈͔͍͔̾̋ͦ̕ ͇̜͖͉̘̬͙̃̇̊͜N͙͉̑̓̌ͤĬ̸͇̖͈͒̃G̮̠̟͖̝̩ͧ͊̈́H̽͌̀T͚̹̝̐ͬ̂̔̄ ̿̈́̊̃ͦ͆͑A̘̝̖ͪͯ́̀ͣ̿̃͝I̟͑ͬR̡͎̩̚ ̠̪̈́̑̏̏̋C̯̲ͩ́͐͒͂ͪ͜Ä͍̜̣̼̹́͌̋̀͒͂ͅN̅͐̆ͪ̓̋ͩ ̣ͮͧͧ͌Ả̼̤̜̫̩̜̾̕L͓͓̺̤̘̠̀W̷̭̯̼͗͂ͦ̾͒A̘͓̰̠͉͇̬Y̵̒ͧͩ̇ͅS ̦̻̯̟̮̭̟̓̒͑͋C̮̱͔͔̖̯ͦͧͨ͋̑A̤ͩ̉̅ͪR̞͉̣̦̪̜̮͛̉̎̀ͩ̍̇R̢̥̳̝̟̺̣̈Y͗͋̅͏͇̳̪͎̺ ̭͈͍̝̣͍̒̎̑͘O̖̗͇̲̲̖͊̈́̿ͨ͑ͅN̩̰͉͍͍͖͙E̩̹̣̰̣͓̖̽̊͡ ̲̮͔̯̦̋̿ͧͫ̓ͅM͇̌͌̔́O̱̫̯̬̤̗̲͛R̙̽Ȅ̥̦̫̺͙̩̒ͯͭ́ ̖̫̯͉̱ͣͯͩ͊͐͆ͫS̰̿̊̑̋ͩ̇ͅC̘̣̜͍̆̆ͧ͜R̞̾͐̋̆̚Ë̡͇̓A̙͈M̡̤̙̈ TALK -
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Some corrections:
- The Radiant Garden. As Hollow Bastion is only the castle (similar to the Castle that Never Was), it should perhaps be "The Radiant Garden (Hollow Bastion)".
- The dual worlds (Halloween Town, Olympus Coliseum) should probably have "Halloween Town/Christmas Town" and "Olympus Coliseum/Underworld", as the dual forms are pretty clearly distinct areas added on in KHII, and not merely new parts of the previous worlds.
- The header (Worlds and KH) should be combined to look less broken. It is possible to do this while still allowing template shrinking, I think, and if you unprotect the template I can work on it.
- The Gathering Place is introduced in KHII, via the Lingering Sentiment battle.
- Olympus Coliseum should be before Deep Jungle, and 100 Acre Wood should be either next to Traverse Town, or before Hollow Bastion (as in the guide and in CoM)
- The BBS worlds should be alphabetized until the game is produced and we get a distinct order.
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Twilight Town
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Then where does the REAL Twilight Town come in ? Kingdom Hearts II ? I'm beginning to wonder if the one in Chain was the simulated one or the real one.
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There are some things even the stars cannot tell me. • TroisNyxÉtienne
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Pinocchio's World
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Guardian Soul Talk. — Don't I even warrant a hello? It's such a shame. The Organization used to be the rope that bound us together. - {{{time}}}
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So the July issue of Nintendo Power is saying that there's going to be a Pinocchio world in Days. It only says so along the top though, so there's no actual picture of the world. For now I'll just leave it in the template, but I don't think we should bother making an article yet until the game is released just in case Nintendo made a mistake.
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Disney Town
It's a bit confusing to discriminate between Disney Castle and Disney Town, but I think once the BBS game is out, we should look into the info and then confirm if Disney Town belongs to a world status or just an extra location connected to a certain world.
--Charmed-Jay 17:01, November 25, 2009 (UTC)
- I think that Disney Town is an actual world. I that was stated when the world's basic information was first leaked. Then, in a Famitsu scan recently, Disney Town was featured, using the same format as is used for other new worlds that will appear in Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep. Please, do add this to the template; I would do it myself if it hadn't been Admin-protected. --DTN 09:39, November 26, 2009 (UTC)