Talk:Julius

Why isn't he considered the first Disney Secret boss

Okay a lot have people have been asking whether or not he's the first secret boss to be a Disney character while others simply dismissed him he's not the first secret boss to be Disney character since the Ice Titan is. Though IMO, I do believe he's considered to be a secret boss, because like Xemnas, the Lingering Will, and the Unknown(Young Xehanort) these bosses often tease a future character in a future KH game so, to be fair he's the first secret boss to be a Disney character, what do you think? DisneyGirkeybladewielder95 00:13, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Why does everyone forget about Polaros or however it is called.. Sum2k3 04:29, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

What Sum2k3 said, Hydros, or rather the Ice Titan, was the first secret Disney boss. Erry 06:09, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

But he was considered as an Optional boss in the tournaments and he didn't tease a future KH/Disney character in a game, Sephiroth is the same thing he's an optional boss in KH and KHII but he wasn't a considered a Secret Boss like Xemnas, lingering will, and Unknown(Young Xehanort). DisneyGirkeybladewielder95 18:33, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Julius is an optional boss too. maggosh 18:46, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

True, But like Xemnas, the Lingering Will, and the Unknown(Young Xehanort, they appear in a specific area from the world you go to, and they have a lot more powerful attacks than the other optional bosses in the games, and you have to rely on your attack strategies to defeat them. DisneyGirkeybladewielder95 18:58, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Just like Sephiroth, Ice Titan...where are you going with this? maggosh 19:23, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

I'm making a point that he's the first secret boss to be a Disney character, you and the rest of you on this wiki could say whatever you want regarding that he doesn't count as one and the Ice Titan does, but to me and a few non-wiki editors that are off this site say, he does and this comment is done. DisneyGirkeybladewielder95 19:50, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Your definition of "secret boss" is nonsensical for many reasons, and doesn't even differentiate between Ice Titan and Julius anyway. Regardless, this wiki does not recognize any worth in denoting "secret bosses" (and includes Ursula in "optional bosses", for example), so your definition is irrelevant. End of story.

Other notes: Stop bringing up "other KH fans/non-wiki editors". The wiki does not care what people you won't even name think; it doesn't even care what we think. It operates solely on the published material, and the facts thereof.

Peurile, meaningless stuff like this is why the wiki discourages trivia. "First to X", etc., does nothing to inform the reader about the story or give context to the setting; it is only added because an editor wanted to create some banal definition (which is even false half the time) so taht they could add something to the page and pretend they contributed. We have a huge list of things that actually need to be done to help improve the quality of our articles, stuff like expanding the story synopsis for a character, or checking where items appear, or providing summaries of the manga and novels...why in the everloving are you wasting our time with this?192.249.47.177 20:09, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

"but to me and a few non-wiki editors that are off this site say, he does and this comment is done." Well, for one, this is flawed logic, secondly, they're non-wiki and clearly seem to have not played KHI. Erry 00:49, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Can't we just move on from the subject End of Story. DisneyGirkeybladewielder95 19:56, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Okay, so we all agree that Julius isn't the first Disney OPTIONAL boss? Erry 21:01, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

....yeaaaaaaah, seeing as Ursula and Oogie exist. Also, fix your signature.192.249.47.177 21:20, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Bonus

Hey, I have beaten Julius today, more or less accidently. After I saved I was curios about him and fought him again without success. I'm not quite sure, but I think he got more HP, like all the other bosses in the secret portals. Can someone confirm me, if I have to beat him a second time with both characters or is it fine beating him only once? (I hope the grammar nazis won't find me).. Sum2k3 (talk) 19:11, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

You need to defeat him with both Sora and Riku to get the Ultima Weapon for both. maggosh 19:31, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I know. But the question is, if there is a stronger version of him which gives you a bonus. Like I said, I think he got more HP in the second fight, like the secret portal bosses. Sum2k3 (talk) 19:34, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Ok, fought him now with riku (who didn't beat him until now) ..the hp didn't rise, so everything is ok. Sum2k3 (talk) 17:54, 6 August 2012 (UTC)