Forum:Wikia stealing resources?

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Erry - Fight and Away
TALK - It is a massive shit taken on the display and functionality of the site purely to draw in more advertising cash. ~ 02:32, 10 May 2011 (EDT)
eEB612q.png Okay so I went to the old wiki, to get to templates so I can audit, so then I decide "eh, why not look through the uploaded pictures?" and I see they've taken the Battle Missions emblem that I extracted from the game... now, what would this be called? Plagiarism? Because it seems so. You don't see us going to their wiki taking their information... discuss.


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UxieLover1994 Tiempo de morder de nuevo con el poder! El tema de hoy: su sorpresa! — 03:21, 10 May 2011 (EDT)
710MS.png Wait. Did we mention that they cannot steal pictures from our wiki? They should know better than to steal, y'know.

Plus, I don't know how they were able to get that picture. It's ether they got it off of Google (which usally stores pictures from other websites), or they came here to steal obtain it. Just a thought.


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Erry - Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons!
TALK - I'm gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down! ~ 03:50, 10 May 2011 (EDT)
uWYtV6m.png I just took a quick Google images search for it and didn't find anything, at all. So it's clear that they didn't get it from there, the only source is either my hard drive or the wiki. And only one is viewable to anyone.


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UxieLover1994 Tiempo de morder de nuevo con el poder! El tema de hoy: su sorpresa! — 04:13, 10 May 2011 (EDT)
710MS.png Han roto el octavo mandamiento. Esto es malo, ya sabes. I guess they just wanted images, so they snuck into our wiki and took the picture. Not many people are able to hack into other people's computers from another part of the world, y'know.


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17master - Hey, guys, check out my new camera!
TALK - Oh wait, this isn't a camera... - {{{time}}}
Yes, it is called plagiarism. Crono (and Kryten, if I remember correctly) already said that copying contents from the articles here to there isn't permitted, since it's an act of plagiarism. Same thing should apply for this problem. Besides, those images were ripped by you, through your own effort, it's not right for them to take the images just like that, at least they should've asked for your permission. I say give them a warning, and if you don't allow them to keep the images, they should delete them from the wiki.


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Item_2383.png AS IF! Item_2383.png The world is garbage! CRUNCH!
Not only is it plagiarism, it also ties this wiki back to theirs, which should not be happening. We should tell the entire wiki, not just the people involved this time, that such behavior isn't acceptable.


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Chitalian8 Say... — Did you think you were special?

Shut up and walk, dear. — 12:40, 10 May 2011 (EDT)

20px-Pin_000.png Completely unacceptable, I'll bring it up on a forum over there later.

Will you guys calm down? First, is for my use, only. I did it to use it in my PROFILE! Not on an article. I already told Erry about it... You need it erased that badly? Fine, I'll delete it. I can rip it myself... but seriously? You have to make such a big deal...? I even told Erry that I was willingly to delete it if he wanted me to do so. He came and talk to me before making asumptions. I thank him for that.--Dark-EnigmaXIII 12:57, 10 May 2011 (EDT)


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AlVan - I'm the leading man, you know.
TALK - {{{time}}}
Hold on. Regardless of what you guys came up with earlier, don't you think that's a little unfair? This wiki copied that entire wikia for good reasons that I now know, but shouldn't they be able to use this one as their example? Say someone who wants info about kh goes to the wikia instead of this one and it has much less info. I'm not saying that one picture is gonna make a big difference, but can't you guys share? The two wikis are for people to read about Kingdom Hearts, not just for you guys to edit all day because you have nothing else to do at the time or because you think editing is really fun. Think about the big picture.


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UxieLover1994 Nya? — 13:28, 10 May 2011 (EDT)
678FMS.png As long as you asked if you can use it, but we cannot tie back to Wikia, y'know. And also, AlVan, I'm not being mean, but we left Wikia because they ignore everyone but themselves, and that they don't care for controversy. I'd say more, but it's so late here...


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Neumannz — Looks like I'm gonna have to jump...!
TALK — I work alone! Except when I work with Xion...which is all the time.
— 13:39, 10 May 2011 (EDT)
 
There are plenty of reasons why the wikia shouldn't be using our images at all, largely because their focus is no longer the same as ours, but if I'm understanding things right, the important thing is not whether they use it, but whether they use it without giving credit or asking permission.

At any rate, if a lot of images are being taken, be sure to approach the one responsible (civilly, please) and let them know the problem with what they're doing.



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Item_2383.png AS IF! Item_2383.png The world is garbage! CRUNCH!
@ Darkheart: I posted my comment before I saw everything with you and Erry. Now that I know the whole story, I understand where the confusion came from.

However, as UnknownChaser mentioned above, images have been stolen from here before. You, the Wikia staff, need to make sure that trend stops. Understood?

I believe you mean me, right? No biggie about the name. Anyhow, I didnt knew about that. The AoTM was actually never used, because maggosh considered it bad quality, and that as the wikia is now fan-related, we can take the liberties of using "fan images" like those models. And... so that Eliminator render came from here? I didnt knew. But I really didnt wanted to use that image for the wikia in itself. I didnt knew who got it, but as soon as Erry approached me, I explained everything and he let me use it as long as I give credit. That is what happened about the Battle Mission Emblem.--Dark-EnigmaXIII 14:16, 10 May 2011 (EDT)


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Sove Talk to Me! — "I dunno. I can't... just look inside. But I figure... If there is something in there - inside us - then we'd feel it, wouldn't we?"

"No one would miss me." — 14:32, 10 May 2011 (EDT)

Face it, the only thing they are obliged to do is credit the author, this wiki is licensed with Creative Commons - Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported (CC BY-SA 3.0). We are able to take the uncredited images down but we can't do anything to the images that are credited.

However, they still can't use copyrighted material without permission (like images made by Square Enix's employees).

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LapisScarab - Xemnas (card).png You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? Nobody.png
TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
Interdiction KHD.png @AlVan: This Wiki and that Wiki are two entirely different Wikis. They have distinct purposes. This Wiki is focused toward information, that one is more fansite and user-oriented. We did not copy anything from the Wikia-Wiki; we moved all of the information (that we wrote and compiled in the first place) from that web address to this one, with the understanding that we were to be a seperate entity from then on. If we were to take info from that Wiki now, it would be copying.