KHWiki talk:The Keyblade War

Just wondering, how exactly were the participants chosen?(ಠ_ೃ) Bully! 14:30, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

I've been pinging IRC admins recently to revise the list, and we've been cycling participants in and out until we found a list we could all agree with. Once I get a final draft to you and another admin, I'll post it, so that any other necessary changes can be made accordingly. --^DTN 22:54, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Really?

I'm trying not to sound like an ass here, but is this just another attempt by DTN to prove the MA to be pointless? Are you trying to draw attention away from the MA and the upcoming Joint Struggle? 24.123.83.62 16:10, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think Mirage Arena is pointless. It's made for fun, so just enjoy it. 17master 16:13, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

1) Who are you? 2) How does this make the Mirage Arena pointless? It's only going to last for a couple of months, then its over. If anything, the Mirage Arena makes this pointless, but either way the're just fun contests.LapisLazuliScarab16:19, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Dammit, this makes it look like I did, doesn't it. And, to make me look even guiltier, I kinda have to agree with the anon. Isn't DTN always saying that we are to preoccupied with community events? Oh, and are there even 128 characters to choose from? Are we going to have to use some Heartless? KRCCFNF is tired of being STEPPED ON.

I helped planned last year's year-end celebratory event, so I went ahead and took charge on this one. This is also not at all geared toward shaming the Mirage Arena, because (1) the Mirage Arena has fixed its initial issues I had with it, and I now actively participate in it, and (2) well, this is just a comment, but that's one heck of an over-generalization. And yes, there are 128 characters to choose from. More in fact, we had a good field of up to 170-200 to select from, not including Heartless. --^DTN 22:54, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

What is this exactly?

Wh!te$tarTALK— "You're mixing your truths with your theories." You're mixing your truths with your theories.— 17:30, October 11, 2010 (UTC) I mean, how does it work? and how do you join? :D

CaelumLucisCaliga updated his Facebook profile at 22:39, October 11, 2010 (UTC) AHH!!! I CAN'T WAIT!!!!! :D

DoorToNothing — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven! And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 22:54, October 11, 2010 (UTC) This is a community event that is just for fun, so any registered user can participate. Voting begins October 15.

ShadowsTwilight - He's leaving you behind, and when you catch up, he'll be a different person TALK - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA @Wh!te$tar, the way I see it, it's exactly like the Mirage Arena, only with a crapload of participants in a tournament setting

Wh!te$tarTALK— "You're mixing your truths with your theories." You're mixing your truths with your theories.— 02:33, October 12, 2010 (UTC) Okay. I'm gonna try getting my edit count up that way I can actually vote! :D

LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had? @Wh!te$tar: Your editcount doesn't matter for this event, only for the Mirage Arena. That's because The Keyblade War is a relatively short end-of-the-year blowout, and the Mirage Arena is meant to last much longer. The Arena needs an minimum number of edits because otherwise people would start registering just to participate in it and distract from the mainspace (which has already happened and its not something we want).

ZexionFan321 - Good tidings, friends. Today is a momentous day. I am pleased to announce that a new comrade has been chosen to wear the coat. TALK - I'm creating a brand new world, one heart at a time. - 20:36, October 14, 2010 (UTC) Like the Magicite Madness on the FF wiki will this happen every year?

LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had? Unlikely. It's an end of the year celebration, and we pick a different one of those every year.

Voting

So, is this just gonna be in the same style of voting as the MA? Chitalian8

Yeah, seriously. DTN just posted somethign about voting... but I still don't get how to vote. KRCCFNF is tired of being STEPPED ON.

Maleficent vs. Lady Tremaine

ZexionFan321 - Good tidings, friends. Today is a momentous day. I am pleased to announce that a new comrade has been chosen to wear the coat. TALK - I'm creating a brand new world, one heart at a time. - 02:42, October 15, 2010 (UTC) They are not on the battle bracket thing.

Bracket Contest

Is anyone planning on running a March-Madness like bracket prediction contest? User:Xalxe

Where do we vote?

umm seriously, where do we put our votes?!!!! Roxas pwns sora47 22:27, October 15, 2010 (UTC)Roxas_pwns_sora

Where,oh where...

What to press to vote for Aqua?

HOW DO WE VOTE!?!

seriously, people, I have NO idea how to vote and I want to get my votes in for the first two brackets before they close!!! SOMEONE HELP!!!

1) Sign your posts with four tildes (like this ~~~~). 2) Just edit the section of each match that says "Votes for Blah Blah". For example, if you want to vote for Phil, click to edit the section that says "Votes for Phil". When you're in the edit window, just add your vote to the bottom of the section.LapisLazuliScarab01:40, October 19, 2010 (UTC)

Huh? Is voting time for the two first KHI matchups already over? Cuz I can't edit a vote in...it says the page is locked...? Sephiroth0812 15:13, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

Bad Matchups

I pretty sure that some people noticed that there are bad matchups against other characters. Come on, everyone knows that the 'Queen of Hearts VS. Sora' battle, Sora's going to win. Couldn't the people who created this have picked better Matchups that aren't one-sided? Are they trying to make certain characters lose? Keyblade0

That's the point. Predictable matches are predictable. maggosh 21:32, October 20, 2010 (UTC)

To be fair, a randomizer was used to select all the sets. --^DTN 23:30, October 20, 2010 (UTC)

Champion bracket

At the end of the tournament, is there going to be a championship bracket? Because there is going to be 16 champions, which is enough to make a bracket. SeanWheeler 22:14, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

Hangon - This is nice. TALK - Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!-22:21, October 25, 2010 (UTC) I think It's an awesome idea, I have'nt been on Mirage arena so I'm looking at that!

Moving on?

It is Friday so shouldn't we move on to the mixed brackets? This is the third week, so the KH1 brackets should close and make way for the Mixed brackets. SeanWheeler 13:32, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

We'll just have to wait for the admins to open the next two brackets ^{What mattered most} _{was remembered least}

Pongo & Perdita VS Ansem the Wise

I think we need to change that fight. I don't know how to format two different pictures in the same half of the box. EDIT: I made that harder than it needed to be, but it's fixed now.LapisLazuliScarab00:31, October 30, 2010 (UTC)

Wuh-Oh, I also just noticed that in the KHI Bracket A, Tidus and Clayton tied. What do we do about that?LapisLazuliScarab00:40, October 30, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, and someone will need to take care of the little story excerpt at the top of the Brackets. I've got nothing for those.LapisLazuliScarab01:56, October 30, 2010 (UTC)

I'll add those story bits, and probably fiddle with the colors and image size parameters too. Thanks bunches, Lapis. --^DTN 05:22, October 30, 2010 (UTC)

In the match between Tidus and Clayton, we really messed up because Tidus had one vote more than Clayton but Clayton moved up. That mistake is even harder to fix because round 2 is here and people are already voting for Clayton. SeanWheeler 00:17, November 13, 2010 (UTC)

Aw, man! I wanted Tidus to win. Bring me the head of the one responsible! ;) [[ Soxra ]] 04:35, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

They were tied. I would assume the winner was selected with a randomizer.LapisLazuliScarab05:42, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

SeanWheeler and the Opening of the Brackets

LapisScarab - Hearts quivering with hatred... Hearts burning with rage... Hearts scarred by envy... That fool Ansem said the heart's true nature was beyond his understanding. But it's not beyond mine! Hearts are the source of all power! TALK - Anger and hate are supreme. Okay, can we give out warnings for users opening the brackets early like a certain Mr. Wheeler did on the grounds that "they seem open", whatever that's supposed to mean. Immediately after he did this, several users began voting (particularly Laurxafinal, who was flat-out ignoring messages on her talk page to stop, something I ordinarily would have already given her a warning for). I repeatedly, repeatedly told the users who were voting to stop in edit summaries, but they're either not seeing them or just ignoring them. This is supposed to be fun and I really don't want to have to punish people over this, but you have no idea how much this pissed me off. It was a blatant disregard of simple rules and honestly really bratty impatience on SeanWheeler's part. I've given up trying to remove the votes since it's gotten to around five users just ignoring me, but if this happens again I want to know if I can give out warnings. Ugh...

DoorToNothing — I dreamed last night... I got on the boat to Heaven! And by some chance, I had brought my dice along! — 23:56, November 19, 2010 (UTC) We don't have to be so critical when the warnings and being applied in regards to an event occurring on a social section of the wiki. However, this definitely disrupted the process, and users ignoring messages to continue getting in the way of this process is very close to the definition of vandalism. Since this needed clearing up, I don't think any warnings need to be given, but in the future, I see no problem with taking such action.

Sephiroth0812 - Let's see what this "Light" of yours can do! TALK - I see, so that's a keyblade... - {{{time}}} Ok then, DTN, does that mean I can start casting votes on these Brackets now or will they be restarted? I've had a longer conversation with LapisScarab since I didn't know that they were opened prematurely, but then refrained from voting any further since the situation is unclear.

Sorry for countinuesly voting, I just went on my talk page, and when will voting start?--Laurxafinal 01:36, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

I am also sorry for opening them prematurely. Next time the brackets would open later than usual, I would wait. By the way, what needed to be fixed before they open? SeanWheeler 23:17, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

There were no edits from the "No voting yet" period until they were opened. The point was that they had not been opened by someone in charge, therefore they were still subject to being changed or reconfirmed. [[ Soxra ]] 02:14, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

Mah Votes!

Where did they go??? Xalxe 10:55, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

Sephiroth0812 - Let's see what this "Light" of yours can do! TALK - I see, so that's a keyblade... - {{{time}}} Probably rescinded, cuz the current brackets were opened by someone who didn't had the right to do so...I'm afraid you have to re-vote.

Yeah, sorry about that. SeanWheeler 23:19, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

Most random OCD thing ever

Am I the only one who sees Even's name as <s>Even? I was going to correct it myself but after all the stress the admins have endured Re:The Wheeler Catastrophe, I figured I best ask first. [[ Soxra ]] 18:47, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

I noticed that too, but I don't know how to fix it.LapisLazuliScarab19:19, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure you just open the page, type back over the <s>, and re-save it. For some reason one of the edits replaced it with &lt;s&gt; (the HTML escaped version) so it appears as <s> but it's really escaped. [[ Soxra ]] 20:37, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

OK, i'm not sure what the hell is wrong with it because i tried to fix it, it looked right in preview mode, but when i pressed the save button nothing had changed. i am thinking it's a bug--ShadowsTwilight 20:43, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

Looks like KrytenKoro figured it out; it was connected to an unmatching </s> tag at the end. Thanks, Kryten. [[ Soxra ]] 21:58, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

err

All brackets are subject to change. Please propose any changes on the talk page. DO NOT edit these brackets without first suggesting the change on the talk page! <-- shouldn't this be put in the beginning of the "brackets" section? I doubt some people will notice the message if its put under the entire bracket. ^{What mattered most} _{was remembered least}

Losers

Will there be a "Second Chance" bracket(s) like in the Mirage Arena? Chitalian8 23:25, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

No, that defeats the purpose of losing a battle, and does not fit into a tournament that is so crunched for time and so large as well.--^DTN 23:59, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Alrhough they would have gotten new comments that they didn't get before. but DTN is right. we have no time for that. SeanWheeler 14:25, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Waiting

That was twice that I got in trouble for making the brackets move on just because it was a Friday. First I looked at the results and put in MIX brackets A and B (although DTN later called them Mixed). But the second time, which was last week, I opened the brackets, even though I don't have any authority on this wiki, just because I looked at the brackets and thought they were ready (Because their pages existed and I didn't see any errors). That edit caused a lot of people to vote and their votes had to be taken off. I learned my lesson. Now it maybe Friday and the new brackets may not be up yet, but I am not going to edit the project page. I'll just wait for DTN to put up the new brackets. I thought Thanksgiving would give him time, but I'll let him do it, so that I wouldn't be blocked for doing it three times. SeanWheeler 14:25, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Sephiroth0812 - Let's see what this "Light" of yours can do! TALK - I see, so that's a keyblade... - {{{time}}} That's nice, for the future, maybe you should keep in mind that this kind of projects often have specific persons in charge of moderating and maintaining it. Just because someone can edit it doesn't mean that one should edit it when it comes to mind. If the lesson is learned now we should all be able to work together more smoothly now...;)

Well, at least Maggosh is closing the round 2 brackets. SeanWheeler 22:06, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Sephiroth0812 - Let's see what this "Light" of yours can do! TALK - I see, so that's a keyblade... - Sephiroth0812 22:12, November 26, 2010 (UTC) My, my, Sean, already getting impatient again...lol. Just what will you do when the keyblade war is over...???

I don't know. I haven't really thought about it. SeanWheeler 22:23, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

maggosh ...the flint is struck. — "Maybe I should punish you after all." "Come on! Show a little backbone!" Restrain yourself, Sean. Or they'll have to glue you back together...IN HELL! ...I need a Demoman talk bubble.

People voting before it opened

Why are people voting even though the brackets still say "Pending?" They should probably read it. I had to take some votes off. SeanWheeler 01:02, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

They probably just don't know what it means, but when is the Pending going to be over, anyway? Roxas pwns sora47 06:01, November 27, 2010 (UTC)Roxas_pwns_sora47

They're just looking at the recent changes I suppose. Oasis skin is having a problem where edit summaries aren't showing up sometimes. I think maggosh will fully open the brackets after he opened the other 2 brackets (2 or 4, I can't remember) So please, wait patiently. ^{What mattered most} _{was remembered least}

Whoa, all brackets!?

Yesterday, Maggosh brought up only the BBS and KH1 brackets, but now, we are doing all the brackets in one week? And from the time that was delayed from voting, we are doing all the brackets in one week? Wow, that's insane! We are doing all the brackets in one week! Not alot of time though.... SeanWheeler 01:11, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Sephiroth0812 - Let's see what this "Light" of yours can do! TALK - I see, so that's a keyblade... - Sephiroth0812 01:19, November 28, 2010 (UTC) Not really that surprising considering there are only two matchups in each bracket left...ya know.

LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had? Indeed, it's roughly the same number of matches as usual, if not less than that. The fact that there are so many individual brackets was part of the reason the voting is being delayed.

This is so exciting. I can't wait to vote in Round 3! SeanWheeler 01:52, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Lack of stories

It seems that the lack of stories in each bracket might be the reason for this long wait. Do you need help with posting a prologue on top of the brackets? SeanWheeler 19:30, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

When can we vote???

When can we vote for round 3??? ANX219 19:39, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Just speculating, but there's only 4 weeks of voting left, so they may want the last week to end on the 31st (since it falls on a Friday) which would mean if they delay it a week, there will be exactly 4 weeks until the 31st. As I said, just speculation, but it's a feasible reason. Soxxeh 16:21, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Sephiroth0812 - Let's see what this "Light" of yours can do! TALK - I see, so that's a keyblade... - Sephiroth0812 16:36, November 29, 2010 (UTC) Really? Aren't it 5 rounds of voting if one counts in the finale? 32,16,8,4,2? Either way, I just assumed the responsible ones just haven't got that much time on hand...

Argh, you're right. I miscounted. Soxxeh 16:42, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Seriously, when can we vote? It is already Monday. There is no time to wait. SeanWheeler 20:15, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Sephiroth0812 - Let's see what this "Light" of yours can do! TALK - I see, so that's a keyblade... - Sephiroth0812 20:21, November 29, 2010 (UTC) As it looks now we'll have no choice but to wait. We don't know what's going on. But Real Life should always coming first. I'm actually a very patient guy...but if we still have no clear message on Wednesday even I might get somewhat worried...;) Just don't go and take it in your own hands again, 'kay. I'll doubt Maggosh or DTN would find that very funny...

If nothing's happened by tomorrow when I get home I'm going to message DTN and ask if he wants someone to set them up for him... Soxxeh 00:56, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

I just have to say...

That picture of all the finalists is really awesome. Naminé and Roxas Forever

Can only second this...I'm pondering making it my desktop wallpaper...Sephiroth0812 12:00, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Opening

Yes!!! The REAL battle begins!!! ANX219 16:24, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Card Pic

LightRoxas - "My friends are my power! And I'm theirs!" TALK - "Just... put an end to me." I wanna make a talk bubble using one of the card images, where can I find them?

Superdog I'm going to say my name to EVERYONE so they NEVER forget me EVER!!! Got it MEMORIZED?! — 05:25, December 10, 2010 (UTC) I have the same question.

Soxra - Surely you must've known that this was going to happen. Have something to say...? - Soxxeh 05:31, December 10, 2010 (UTC) The card images are from the characters' respective articles, following the same background pattern. Not too difficult to make with Photoshop and a few minutes. As for the images themselves, they're hosted on KingdomKeyDarkside's PhotoBucket account externally.

KingdomKeyDarkside - But then, when all hope had died, and the hour of doom seemed at hand... TALK - a young boy clothed in green appeared as if from nowhere. ~ 15:27, December 10, 2010 (UTC) Yeaah, I was the one who made those. DTN asked me to. Anyway, if you want to use them, go ahead. Unless, of course, you want another one, which I'd be glad to make.

So, why not upload them here? SeanWheeler 22:47, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

Image policy. KingdomKeyDarkside 01:09, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

I know I should be able to vote, but...

Why won't the edit buttons show up for me? I can't vote!--Have you ever had the urge to do something incredibly stupid... and AWESOME? 00:33, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Chitalian8 Hey, boss! — The world ends with you. If you want to enjoy life, expand your world. You gotta push your horizons out as far as they'll go. Enjoy the moment with all your might... whether it's gloomy, whether it's bright! — 00:39, December 9, 2010 (UTC) Your account is not yet 4 days old, that's when you are able to edit.

LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had? Sign your comments with four tildes, like this ~~~~. And that's because you haven't been autoconfirmed; wait a few days like Chitalian said and you'll be able to edit semi-locked pages.

Congratulating the champion

We are at the final battle, and so far Aqua is beating Riku by a landslide. If Aqua wins, will there be a forum congratulating her? SeanWheeler

I agree. I think we could tell everyone that voted for Aqua thank you. ANX219

Just wondering

File:NamineSprite.png

Naminé and Roxas - "We meet again, like we promised." TALK - You make a good other.{{{time}}} Is there a reason why the voters for the third place match need to have so many edit counts? I'm not complaining, just curious.

Soxra - Surely you must've known that this was going to happen. Have something to say...? - Soxxeh 6:52pm, December 24, 2010 (UTC) I don't think the 3rd place match has an edit count limit. Those rules are for the Mirage Arena, and this is a TKW fight. Other users (one with 34 edits) have been allowed to vote, so I'm pretty sure it's not edit-count limited.

JFHavoc Talk to Me! — I once took an IQ test and got a score of over 9000. You're all morons. — 18:54, December 24, 2010 (UTC) Soxra is correct. Those rules are restricted to Mirage Arena matches. If you've been voting in the Keyblade War all this time you're still permitted to vote on the 3rd place match.

SilverCrono Well, I can tell who you are. — "Looks like you're prepared." "What is with you and picking up stray puppies?" — 18:56, December 24, 2010 (UTC) Y'know, or you guys could just edit the mainspace. >.>

maggosh ...the flint is struck. — "Maybe I should punish you after all." "Come on! Show a little backbone!" I said it once and I'll say it again; if those rules were in place for TKW, that 9 Sock incident would never have happened. But no one listens to Ol' maggosh, do they... ;_;

Soxra - Behold! For my very existence refutes the will of the gods! I am a will unto my own, a power that shakes the very foundation of creation! Talk to me! - Soxxeh 7:00pm, December 24, 2010 (UTC) The entire outcome would also have been different. Besides, we fixed the sockpuppet incident without too much hassle (since the outcome was the same anyway), so it's just water over the dam.

Chitalian8 Booya! — My name is Daisukeno... Aw screw it, jus' call me Beat. I'm not treading on thin ice! Shibuya's not cold enough for ice! — 19:04, December 24, 2010 (UTC) @Soxra, Never heard that one before. But honestly, I'm glad with the big turnout of TKW, the Mirage Arena is already pretty much a regular-editor-exclusive thing.

maggosh ...the flint is struck. — "Maybe I should punish you after all." "Come on! Show a little backbone!" @Soxra: You mean water under the bridge. A bridge which is big. A big bridge where there are battles. ...it is morphing time!

Chitalian8 Say... — Only by allowing strangers in can we find new ways to be ourselves. Life's little crossroads are often as simple as the pull of a trigger. — 19:08, December 24, 2010 (UTC) Battles with ladies! And men! And ladies that dress like men!

File:NamineSprite.png

Naminé and Roxas - "We meet again, like we promised." TALK - You make a good other.{{{time}}} Um...well when I go to the 3rd place battle there's a big headline in red that says rules and one of them says "Must have at least 145 edits."

That's for the Mirage Arena, which is different from The Keyblade War. Chitalian8 19:51, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

File:NamineSprite.png

Naminé and Roxas - "We meet again, like we promised." TALK - You make a good other.{{{time}}} Okay thanks.

Vexilor's signature

When Vexilor voted, he signed his whole user page instead of his name and someone should fix that. SeanWheeler 01:12, December 29, 2010 (UTC)