- Well, if there's no OST out yet, then they're obviously titles made up by fans.—Urutapu 11:50, February 2, 2010 (UTC)
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The OST is out in Japan. Someone stated they bought it. That could have been a lie of course.
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Randomnessity Looks like you're already prepared.
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- Yeah, it's a lie. A soundtrack hasn't been announced.—Urutapu 20:17, February 2, 2010 (UTC)
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Darn lying Youtubites.
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Randomnessity Looks like you're already prepared.
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Night on Bald Mountain/Night on the Bare Mountain
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Sleeping LionHeart - "We've been to a million weddings and you know what? We've rocked them all!" TALK - 23:10, April 30, 2010 (UTC) "I award you no cookies and may God have mercy on your soul."
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Is it Night on the Bare Mountain or Night on Bald Mountain, becasue in the film Fantasia, it says Night on Bald Mountain, the original.
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True, but the released Kingdom Hearts soundtracks name the track "Night on the Bare Mountain". I don't know why. --Neumannz 23:14, April 30, 2010 (UTC)
its night on bald mountain in the kingdom hearts credits as seen by this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_NOCzkRZXQ 86.30.108.115 23:18, April 30, 2010 (UTC)
its about 2 mins and 30 secs in 86.30.108.115 23:19, April 30, 2010 (UTC)
- Okay, first of all, both titles are translated from Russian anyway and mean the same thing. Second, "Bare" should be what's considered official to KH at the moment. "Kingdom Hearts Final Mix - Additional Tracks" uses "Bald" but Kingdom Hearts Original Soundtrack Complete uses "Bare". It's a retcon of sorts.—Urutapu 07:52, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
i think we should go with what it says on the credits as that is what it was officially called when it was played in the game sequence, if this was the page for the soundtrack it probably should be called what it says on the track listing but its not its the in-game boss music therefore the song name in the credits should be official 86.30.108.115 13:42, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
- Uh huh. Because the Official Soundtracks aren't official somehow? --Neumannz 01:53, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
- completely missed what i was saying i wasnt saying that night on Bare mountain wasnt the official name of the song i was saying that night on bald mountain is how it was named in the credits so thats what it should be called here as this is the 'in game ' music not the soundtrack music i cant make it any clearer than that 86.30.108.115 21:16, May 3, 2010 (UTC)
- The song is officially credited at the end of the game, and honestly, the Original Soundtrack Complete is only released in Japan, right? Unless they've gotten special permission to rename the song due to their slight remix of it, I think we can write it off as a typo. "Bald Mountain" is the name of the actual location in the film, and that name is used in both Kingdom Hearts and the Final Mix soundtrack, so it's fair to say that we've got both context and majority on this one.Glorious CHAOS! 03:33, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
- You don't need "special permission" to rename a piece of music in the public domain, especially when the "name" is a translation in the first place.—Urutapu 06:49, May 3, 2010 (UTC)
- Oh, I didn't know it was in the public domain. I thought there might be some kind of issue if they had misnamed it.Glorious CHAOS! 07:42, May 3, 2010 (UTC)
Shrouding Dark Cloud.
It says in the opening paragraph that this theme is associated with Heartless Bosses. I thought Destiny's Force played against Heartless. It played against Darkside, Parasite Cage, Behemoth and others. Can someone get rid of that statement? (Bananaphone1996 22:57, August 14, 2010 (UTC))
Both themes play during Heartless Bosses. So the statement is accurate since it doesn't say it plays during ALL Heartless Bosses.76.108.136.28 21:11, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
Seriously
The edit warring here needs to stop. Leave it until the OST comes out. IS THAT HARD?--Random!to a point! 21:30, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
Do it, if that's what you really want.--Random!to a point! 21:33, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
Uh, what? I don't understand your accent.--Random!to a point! 21:41, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
Needed?
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LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
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Why do we need this page? It seems to me that it would be better to have the boss music listed on the appropriate boss' page. Perhaps containing it in the template like we do with World articles?
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Bananaphone1996 - Cause I'm a gamblin' bogeyman, although I don't play fair! TALK - Look's like it's Oogie's turn to boogie now!
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You are right. It does seem better in the article. It should be removed. But I would wait for someone else's opinion.
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ZexionFan321 - Hey, it's like that old goat says: Rule #11: It's all just a game. So let loose and have fun with it! TALK - Did you forget who you're talking to? I am the Lord of the Dead! - 22:25, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
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I personally like this page.
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LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
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*@Bananaphone: That was my intention. I couldn't actually remove the page even if I wanted to; only admins can.
- @ZexionFan: Can you elaborate? Give some reasons as to why we should keep the page.
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ZexionFan321 - Hey, it's like that old goat says: Rule #11: It's all just a game. So let loose and have fun with it! TALK - Did you forget who you're talking to? I am the Lord of the Dead! - 14:35, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
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Not sure why but it just seems necessary.
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LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
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That doesn't really help. I'd like some more input from other users though.
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Birth By Sleep themes
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Bananaphone1996 - Cause I'm a gamblin' bogeyman, although I don't play fair! TALK - Look's like it's Oogie's turn to boogie now!
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Opposed to what the artivles say, not all the titles are unnamed. Alot of these tracks are from previous games. e.g. The Encounter which plays against disney villains in KH2 also plays against disney villains in BBS. Maleficent, Gantu Captain Hook all have it, and Experiment 221 and Peter Pan also have music from previous games. What about these titles? Aren't these official? Shouldn't titles like Vim and Vigor and The Encounter be added to BBS Bosses?
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Many themes are also reused for Days so why do all of them read "title unanounced?" Just because a game specific OST hasn't come out doesn't change the fact that we already know the names of the songs.
Although the songs are identical, the titles for that game have not been released, so ergo, "title unnanounced." Chitalian8
Okay so how does that make them different songs? They're not even remixes which may have different titles than the original, the only difference between them is the game. I mean do different radio stations use different tittles for the same song? No, they use the same one because it is the same song, seriously should I use a different names for the champion theme for Pokemon Gold and Silver than the one used in Pokemon Crystal? Also don't say that that example is irrelevant just because it is an unrelated series.
Wow, I keep forgetting to sign my posts. I also posted the second and forth comments in this section.76.108.136.28 05:21, October 10, 2010 (UTC)
- That example is irrelevant because it is an unrelated series.
- Wait for the OST to come out. There is no basis in policy to be guessing at names for what it sounds like.(ಠ_ೃ) Bully! 18:24, October 10, 2010 (UTC)
It's the same song used in two different games under the same circumstances, it was a perfect example. As I said should I just consider them to have different names just because it has never been said that they do or don't. This isn't guessing, it is a conclusion reached based on facts. Seriously just because it is used in a different game doesn't mean it's a different song, if it was a remix it could be considered different but it's not.
- To be frank, your opinion here doesn't matter, because it is directly contradictory to the wiki's policies.(ಠ_ೃ) Bully! 14:26, October 11, 2010 (UTC)
But what if the soundtrack remains unreleased? It can't say title unannounced forever. SeanWheeler 01:46, October 23, 2010 (UTC)
Umm, yes, it can.LapisLazuliScarab02:49, October 23, 2010 (UTC)
What if the internal names for the tracks used by the game were used? Especially for days and recoded? 134.151.33.152 11:38, October 26, 2010 (UTC)
coded
We need to start updateing the article with the bosses from Coded and Re:coded. I would but I don't know what the games various bosses are asside from Sora-Heartless and Roxas. LightoftheDarkness 22:12, November 9, 2010 (UTC)
Soundtrack
There will be an OST for Days, BBS and recoded, so I guess we can finally update this page with official names :) Silvertitan 17:43, December 2, 2010 (UTC)
- GODDAMN IT I WAS JUST ABOUT TO POST THIS. AS PUNISHMENT I AM SENDING YOU TO THE DEPTHS OF THAT OTHER PLACE WHICH ISN'T HEAVEN.
- Don't know if you noticed, but I'm angry. maggosh 07:33, December 4, 2010 (UTC)
What's with the personal attacks and threats, Maggosh? SeanWheeler 23:04, December 16, 2010 (UTC)
Ventus-Vanitas
Don't we need to add Ventus-Vanitas to the Keyblade Graveyard section of Birth by Sleep? Also is Unbreakable Chains the theme used for Ven's fight against Vanitas inside their heart or for the Ventus-Vanitas fight with Aqua? LightoftheDarkness 03:12, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
TBA Titles
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LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had?
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Since the recent Soundtracks are unlikely to cover all of the songs with "TBA" titles and this can be a significant source of conflict, I'd like to suggest a change in the policy we use for songs. Specifically, music that has been officially named in past games, but not in the more recent ones. For example, The Encounter in KHII is used several times in BBS, but it has no official title for that particular "remix".
In cases like this, I think we should put the most recent official title in place of "title unnanounced", but add some sort of disclaimer. So for Gantu in the BBS section, we put "The Encounter", but place a notation of some kind to indicate that there is not an official name for it yet. Here are a few options I though of:
- Have an asterisk next to each title to indicate that it is a variation of the song, but the title has not been officially confirmed, with a notation earlier up on the page stating this, in much the same way certain rooms are marked on Project World.
- Simply have a paranthetical next to the song like there is now, only changing it to "officical title unnanounced" or something to that effect.
- For cases where a soundtrack hasn't been released at all (Re:coded, BBSFM), note at the tp of the section that an offical soundtrack has not been released yet.
It's just an idea, but one I think could satisfy both sides. I'm proposing this more for the soon-to-leave Wiki, since the Wikia-Wiki will likely relax on this policy anyway. Thoughts?
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maggosh The steel is forged... — "Souls as far as the eye can see..." "If you want light to rule over all, then you must rid the world of everything else."
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I'm all for the asterisk idea. The BBS versions of KHII tracks will most likely not be released, and it's pretty clear what the tracks are.
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