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LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had? Hello, and welcome to the Kingdom Hearts Wiki! If you have any questions, just ask me here. If you'd like a talk bubble, ask me here

hi, ive got a question about kairi's if u r not to busy , thnks

Sure, what's your question, Avataring? Werehog 6:48 PM 1/6/2010 (UTC)

LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had? Please stop edit warring on Sora and Saix's pages. I've looked what you're trying to add, and it isn't necessary. If you continue, you may get a warning.

But I don't understand. Saix was Sora greatest enemy so far, even better than Xemnas. I mean, he threatened Kairi, that's more than what Vexen, Marluxia, and Xemnas could pull off. And Before Sora was the Keyblade Master, Aqua was the KM before him. Xigbar DID destroy Saix's Heartless that Sora was supposed to destroy, and Kairi, Goofy, Donald, Riku, and Saix are close to Sora (whether they were enemies or not). Why does this information have to be taken off?

LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had? Well, first of all, it is an opinion that Saix is Sora's greatest enemy, not a fact. As for what you're actually trying to add, I told you it is unnecesary. To be more specific: "By realizing Sora's weakness, Saix became more determined to see Sora suffer" First part, unneeded, second part, speculation "by telling her he can bring her to Sora (a possible attempt to infuriate Sora even more)" Same as above "Kairi tells him that she doesn't need Saix to go see Sora. Before Saix could stop Kairi and Namine, … his Nobody soldiers and Saix himself" Unneeded "Strangely, Saix's summoned Heartless were not beaten by Sora, but were slain instead by Xigbar, who had unfinished business with the Keybearer." Unneeded, since it is not Xigbar's article, and there’s nothing particularly “strange” about it.

Here's a fact, your rules are "unneeded"! The way you keep censoring these "FACTS" (not opinions), it's like you worship Disney's way of business! Oh, yeah sure, they made some good movies in the past, but ever since "Hercules" came out, the crappy Pop singers (Jonas Bros., Hannah Montanna, and Jesse FRICK'N Mcartney) and "Unneeded" futuristic movies (G-Force, Treasure Planet, and that GOD-DAMN High School Musical) were made! It's clear to me that the editors in THIS Wiki aren't as dedicated as the other Wiki editors, Disney has taken the honor of editing, and replaced it with censorship! So fine, go ahead and "censor" the "unneeded" information, let Disney's grip on Square-Enix destroy the Final Fantasy franchise, and then stand back while Disney destroys everything we love, and replace it with "UNNEEDED CRAP"! Chow.

LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had? ....What? What in God's name does that have to do with anything you tried to edit? If you want to calmly argue your point, go ahead. But you'd better watch yourself Werehog, I will inform an admin if you start misbehaving.

MISBEHAVING? You delete the facts, and you say I'm misbehaving? Why can't anyone see that I'm just putting some needed info on Sora and Saix? I thought this information was important, and shouldn't be overlooked! I'm not trying to cause any trouble, I just wanted to do something write for once! People always told me "Hey, thanks for the help" or "That was a great masterpiece you've made" so why does everyone hate me for what I'm trying to do! Being Autistic is one thing, but being a failure, that's cutting it deep! I'm not misbehaiving, I'm just trying to do the right thing.

LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had? Your information was not incorrect, and just adding it was not wrong. You misbehaved by edit warring and by exploding in nonsensical rage above when I calmly told you why your contribution was not needed. No one said you were a failure (nor did anyone mention autism, so I don't understand your comment on that), and I understand that you are not trying to cause trouble. I reverted your edit to the Saix page because, like I say above, it was largely uneccessary to his article, and certain parts were speculative. That Saix is Sora's greatest enemy is your opinion, and a wiki is not a place for opinions. On Sora's article, you changed "Ethereal Blades" to "energy swords". Ethereal Blades is what Xemnas's weapons are, which is information we got directly from 358/2 Days. As for the Aqua part, I don't know if you care about spoilers so I won't go into detail, but there is a reason that that is wrong.

...Really? that kind of makes sense to me now. Sorry. I wasn't actually intending to get rid of the name of Xemnas's weapon. I was actually comfortable with it. And I forgot about the spoiler part. Aqua IS from a game that has yet to be released. I guess I should discuss changes before I make any. I am the only person who thinks Saix is Sora's enemy, and what Xigbar did, doesn't really have anything to do with Saix at all. I'll cease my actions, sorry about the mishap.

LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had? Fair enough, no harm done. You're not necesarily the only person that thinks that about Saix, it's just that it is technically an opinion. He's certainly more of an antagonist than sme of the other members, but that's sort of implied by his role as the second-in-command. And as long as there are spoiler warning templates (which are created using these codes: {{spoiler}} {{spoilerend}} ) you can put information from Birth By Sleep. The secret ending of BBS (SPOILER) shows that Aqua is still alive and (sort of) well, not to mention Sora and Riku are both Keyblade users. The tidbit about Xigbar is something you could put in his article if you want, provided it isn't there already. As a peace offering, if you would like a talk bubble, just follow the link in my message at the top and give methe character, quotes, and colors.

Thanks, but I think I'm comfortable with the way I type in. Plus, I have to be careful with what I type from now on. Xigbar can wait. Anyway, since Master Xehanort and current Xehanort are the same person (or so I've heard), is there any chance that their pages can somehow be merged?

LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had? Master Xehanort and Xehanort will probably remain separate pages. Again, in case you don't want to be spoiled, I won't go into too much detail, but Master Xehanort and the Xehanort we know are technically different characters, so the Master Xehanort article will be about actions made by MX himself, and the Xehanort article will be about the actions made by the new Xehanort.

OK, I can live with that. I'll let you know if I had another idea for an edit. Thanks for replying again, and sorry about the temper.

LapisScarab - Very good. You don't miss a thing. I cannot feel sorrow... No matter what misery befalls the worlds. No matter what you think, what you feel, or how you exist. TALK - Come closer... No problem, and if you do have any more questions, let me know on my talk page. That way I can respond quickly.

LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had? From what I can tell, that is the Xehanort we know, though I have no idea why he's on Destiny Islands. When does that cutscene take place in the game? Oh, and sign your comments with four tildes (four ~), that way I can tell who's talking.

LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had? Huh, then it was probably a foreshadowing or teaser sort of thing, like the scene with Roxas and Xemnas at the Dark Meridian near the start of KHII.

LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had? Just found out that that was a young Master Xehanort. Apparently he is a native of Destiny Islands. The scene was a flashback/prologue of sorts.

ENOUGH

Kingdomzachdawg The truth is, Ansem, I just can't stand your foul stench. — 23:49, February 14, 2010 (UTC) Enough of the nonsense on the Zack Discussion Page. There is no edit war, and we're not going to start one. If it ain't confirmed, it will NOT be on the wiki. And you say that it can only come from Sephiroth, that's not true. Genesis also has a black wing except on his left shoulder.

I stopped discussing the mater when the guy came up and said that the mater was closed. Sephiroth did have a black feathery wing in Kingdom Hearts, Genesis isn't in Kingdom Hearts, Cloud had a wing, but it was a bat wing, it wasn't a black wing like Sephiroth's from Kingdom Hearts! Users decided to be immature about it, they wanted to believe Genesis could make an appearance, but he won't make an appearance, that's the thing, NO ONE GETS IT! Zach was surprised to see Sephiroth, a black wing fell in front of Zach to notify Sephiroth's presence, Sephiroth did something to Zach, Zach and Cloud both appeared in Olympus Colosseum, there is a connection, Cloud wants to defeat Sephirtoh, possibly to save his best friend, THE END! I can't believe no one could understand the obvious information in front of them! You people speak about how you need confirmation, about how you need proof, well listen to this, people, two words make all the difference, "ONE WING"! UNDERSTAND!? 6:26 PM 2/14/2010 (UTC)

Calm down.--NinjaSheik 02:27, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

@NinjaSheik, Calm down?! You people are the ones who holler at me about being wrong, you all tell me that "Genesis has a wing like that too, and that wing could be his, blah blah blah." You all even claim that there is no "PROOF" or "CONFIRMATION", and your telling me to calm down? Your the ones who should understand and let it go. Your not all 14 years old, are you? Werehog 6:34 PM 2/14/2010 (UTC)

Relax Werehog, the policy of the wiki is that we need absolute confirmation to place info on the wiki. Even if it's 99% certain, if it isn't 100% confirmed, it can't be used. We didn't see Sephiroth, we saw a feather. Just a feather. That isn't enough. But the matter is closed, which I think is what zachdawg was trying to get across.--Lapis ofthe Night 02:31, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

@LapisScarab, But it's so illogical! THE FEATHER IS FROM SEPHIROTH'S BLACK-BIRDY-FEATHERED WING!! Your all driving me crazy! STOP IT!! STOP BEING IDIOTS AND LEAVE ME ALONE!!! Werehog 6:38 PM 2/14/2010 (UTC)

I'm 16 and quickly running out of patience. I don't need to be insulted and shouted at for something this trivial. No one hollered at you, we were trying to calmly explain that the wiki's policy is to have complete confirmation. Please try to understand, if it isn't confirmed that it was Sephiroth (that means unless we see Sephiroth and not just a feather the same color as his wing, or if the developers of the game directly state that it is Sephiroth's feather), it does not belong on the wiki.--Lapis ofthe Night 02:44, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

It's alright, all is forgiven. For the record, I think (so does pretty much everyone, Kingdom zachdawg included I believe) that the feather does belong to Sephiroth, it's just the wiki's policy to have 100% confirmation. No one actually thinks you're wrong on that fact, it's that we're following the policy, which is really strict when it comes to speculation.--Lapis ofthe Night 04:36, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

You forced me to do this!--NinjaSheik 02:41, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not laughing!
	This is a warning for mis-conduct towards other users. Your edits have been reverted; please do not attempt to repeat them. If you wish to do test edits, you are welcome to do so here. — --NinjaSheik 02:41, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Kingdomzachdawg Come on Sora, I thought you were stronger than that. — 23:32, February 15, 2010 (UTC) Yes, I do believe that the feather belonged to Sephiroth, but the policy of the wiki and all that... anyway, I hope we can put all this behind us.

Alright, water over the bridge, it's old news. Thanks, man. Werehog 3:37 PM 2/15/2010 (UTC)

Edit warring

I said, hands off!
	This is a warning for edit warring on Saïx. Please stop breaking the rules on the Kingdom Hearts Wiki. Further violations will result in additional warnings or blocks. If you wish to do test edits, you are welcome to do so here. — DTN 05:03, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

What's with the warning? I was told by a user that there was a Missions Mode page and I ceased making the undo option. Werehog 12:04 AM 2/17/2010 (UTC)

Deleting a page

LapisScarab - You accept darkness, yet choose to live in the light. So why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? We who were turned away by both light and dark - never given a choice? TALK - That may be... however, what other choice might we have had? Well, on here you put the deletion template on the page, which is created with this code: {{Delete|reason=THE REASON FOR DELETING THE PAGE HERE}} . Then, we put it up on the Kingdom Hearts Wiki:Pages for Deletion page, and just sort of wait for one of the admins to delete it. I don't know if it works the same way on all wikis, but I'd advise you to ask someone on that wiki just to be safe.

Notre Dame edits

While those are canonical events in the movie, there is no confirmation of these locations in the game. Please wait for official confirmation. Thanks! --^DTN 23:25, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

The supposed official confirmation WAS in the trailer! Sora was jumping down the bell tower of Notre Dame down to the streets of Paris during the Festival of Fools event. You can't just make an excuse because there's no "official confirmation"! Werehog 3:30 PM 2/2/2011 (UTC)

The trailer doesn't actually call the place "Notre Dame" or "Paris", so it's just speculation. Chitalian8 23:40, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

The trailer?! The trailer shows you Paris and the bells in Notre dame, and you think it matters if the name shows up? The world is going to be called Notre Dame or Paris eventually, so at least try and except it and stop making it sound like Sora's in a 'new location'! You people probably think this is a Final Fantasy level, don't you? Werehog 3:44 PM 2/2/2011 (UTC)

What. God so dense. The name hasn't been given, so we can't put names on the wiki. Simple as that. EDIT: Yes, we do see the places in the trailer, and yes, Notre Dame was confirmed, HOWEVER, unless the places themselves are named, we can't put up names. The Mulan based world wasn't named "Mulan" or "China", so the Hunchback of Notre Dame world doesn't have to be named "Notre Dam" --Evnyofdeath 23:57, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

First of all, there's an E in Dame, second, who cares if the name isn't announced yet. The movie announced the country that Notre Dame was in, FRANCE, and the city in France, is Paris, and what's in Paris? NOTRE DAME!! and here's something interesting to know, I'm not making a page for Paris or Notre Dame in the Kingdom Hearts Wiki, but I am letting readers know where Sora is! I'm not making stuff up, I'm not trying to make up worlds, I'm just putting down the info that the trailer gave out! Sora finds his way to Paris, he jumps off Notre Dame, this is accurate info about the soon to be named world of Hunchback of Notre Dame, which is in Paris! So stop making a big deal about "announcements", accept that it's a location in France, and stop undoing the necessary changes, SIR!! Thank you. Werehog 4:10 PM 2/2/2011 (UTC)

PS: I won't respond to any more of your replies. So see you later!

Mulan takes place in China, yet the word "China" never pops up as far as I remember, and as 3D hasn't come out yet, we don't know whether or not the words "France" or "Paris" will come up. Get the stick out of your ass and calm down. Evnyofdeath 00:15, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

AS IF! You can talk all you want, but that won't change a thing. Sorry to intrude on this conversation, but... As of now we have no confirmation that the areas "are going to be called Notre Dame or Paris eventually". For all you know, the bell tower area could be named "The Bell Tower" and the Paris area "The Market Square" in the final game. Until we have confirmation on what the areas are called, you should use ambiguous ones, rather than making up names "because that's how it was in the movie". And why would you think he thinks it's a Final Fantasy level?

Because I'm convinced that most of you users would be dumb enough to think that the world is something else. And just a heads up, read the PS, my decision is final, and I won't be afraid of threats. So I don't care if the "official announcement" hasn't been brought up yet, you think I'm making this up? Boy, then you really need to get out and look around the world because it feels sorry for you and all those who agree with you! The world is related to Paris, Notre Dame was what Sora jumped off of, END OF DISCUSSION!! Good bye! Werehog 4:17 PM 2/2/2011 (UTC)

Listen moron. I THINK ITS NOTRE DAME AND PARIS AS WELL, HOWEVER BECAUSE NO NAMES HAVE BEEN REVEALED IT IS CONSIDERED VANDALIZM TO GIVE THEM NAMES. Also, just because we don't agree with yiour...argumennt...doesn't mean we think its from FF. Anyone who knows about FF knows there is no place like that in any of the games. Evnyofdeath 00:21, February 3, 2011 (UTC)