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| Bluer says at 01:25, August 13, 2010 (UTC)
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| Went for a read in the "Guide for New Members". One of the sentences say "the Kingdom Hearts Wiki has a strict official image only policy." I interpret this as being non-free fair-use images only. There's inconsistency in the way images are handled in this wiki. Let's see if I can list the points here:
- Official image. When that happens it invokes fair-use. And fair-use limits how we use these images.
- Free images aren't allowed because of past user behavior. Wikia encourages free images, and requests limit on non-free images.
- However, lots of fair-use images aren't being used based on the limitation. Talk template, notification templates, all go against fair use.
- Furthermore, fair-use images are removed from articlespace for being redundant (in the case of artwork and render), clutter (although organized in a gallery) and would violate fair-use (although described in a caption).
See how inconsistent we are? Anyone has an argument against these issues?
So, guys and girls, images violating fair-use would be replaced. Note that this is an accumulation to the image policy we have here. Really sorry everyone, but this issue has been going on for a very long time already.
Images that will be purged include:
- Files appended with a Public Domain template, but isn't because they use fair-use material.
- Files appended with one of the non-free, copyright templates but not used as intended.
- Files categorized as User Image but not originally created by the user.
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Discussion
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Neumannz — Looks like I'm gonna have to jump...!
TALK — I work alone! Except when I work with Xion...which is all the time.— 02:15, August 13, 2010 (UTC)
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| What exactly do you mean by "User Image not originally created by the user"? Does it include images created by users for other users?
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| Bluer says at 02:18, August 13, 2010 (UTC)
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| Oh yeah, that wasn't clear, was it? An "originally created by the user" image would be 100% drawn or made by the user. No copyrighted images, no cropping from non-free images etc. An image drawn by other users is okay as long as they're credited.
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Neumannz — Looks like I'm gonna have to jump...!
TALK — I work alone! Except when I work with Xion...which is all the time.— 02:30, August 13, 2010 (UTC)
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| So what about my talkbubble image? It was made from a fair use-classified image which was edited by me.
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| Bluer says at 02:34, August 13, 2010 (UTC)
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| It is a violation of fair use, sorry to say, and it's not even appended with a copyright template. Correct fair-use images are when these images are used to describe or illustrate the subject in an article.
You can say mine violates fair-use as well, and you are right. However, that image is in Photobucket, which still is an option for all of us.
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KrytenKoro - "Because I knew something he didn't. I knew that I was lying. Seriously, sir. 'No silicon heaven'? Where would all of the calculators go?"
TALK -
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Just to state my opinions on our image policy, none of which are legal-based:
- We absolutely cannot allow fanart in the mainspace. This isn't hypochondria, either - several articles, such as Xehanort's Keyblade, Fresh Breeze, Vanitas's Keyblade, Paopu Fruit, kept getting hit with (often very inaccurate) fanart, and when I tried to remove it from the page, we'd get vitriol. Cutting the beast off at the head is really the only solution.
- Fanart in the userspace seems fine to me, as long as it is clearly categorized as fanart.
- For images on articles, both because of fair use and simple aesthetics, there's no need to have any images that don't illustrate necessary differences. We don't need official artwork if we have a CGI render of the same exact thing, we don't need various poses, and most screenshots are superfluous unless they illustrate something unique. For example, the screenshot of Vanitas taking his mask off, while a climactic moment, does not illustrate anything more than his face, which is already in his CGI render. However, while it may not exactly be fair use compliant, I'm personally fine with using the galleries for extra images.
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- For the avatar images - I know that in many cases, SE has released free images specifically meant for user avatars in forums, as publicity. In fact, KH Mobile is almost solely for this purpose, and the avatars are also available for free on their website. While I certainly see how it may be un-kosher to use game rips or such for banal tasks like talkboxes, it should be okay to use the released avatars, since SE released them for that purpose. That, and pure original characters.
So, are you basically suggesting we move all user images to photobucket, where we can pretend we don't have jurisdiction to police them for fair use? I can agree with that, kind of.}}
