Talk:Bequeathing
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Terra and Riku
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Inheritance?
If Riku received the Keyblade from Terra, but it was passed onto Sora due to Riku's fall to darkness, how did Riku get a Keyblade? And why can't Kairi use the keyblade as well, seeing as how she supposedly inherited aqua's keyblade?KKD
Riku's soul eater turned into a keyblade when ansems machine exploded and kairi can us a keyblade seen towards the end of KHII 75.162.68.34 02:17, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
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- sigh* I know all that, but how did Riku get his keyblade? that's the real question. And destiny place was Riku's, not Kairi's.KKD
- actually, i think i may have figured it out. Sora did get terra's keyblade, but due to Xehanort's possesion of Riku, riku gained Master Xehanort's Keyblade. KKD
Sora has his own Keyblade and Ventus's keyblade he don't have Terra's keyblade if you think well the ÇS has it but you're right about Riku he have his own keyblade and MX's keyblade. Besides Nomura stated that Riku was choosen by both a keyblade master and a keyblade--Xabryn 13:37, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
yeah, Riku was chosen by terra and later by MX's keyblade. Terra's keyblade went to Sora. He also has ven's keyblade (roxas) and vanitas's keyblade (Xion, i believe.). The LS? I can't explain that. I guess he's just a sentiment. I don't think his keyblade is a true one, especially since Sora got the Kingdom Key. KKD 17:55, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
Okay calm down Sora only have 2 keyblades his own(Kingdom Key) and Ventus(Second keyblade) Terra's keyblade is with the LS, Xion's keyblade is a sham as Riku said and Vanitas's keyblade fused again with Ventus's, Roxas got his sinch blade ability after Xion's dead nomura said that the ability was awaken because of his desire to not lose Xion's memories, but anyway MX's keyblade is probably Riku's second Keyblade(we don't know how he got this ability) and he also have his own Keyblade(WaytotheDawn), m point is both Riku and Sora were choosen by the keyblade and by the keyblade but as the KK isa keyblade of the realm of light when Riku choose the realm of darkness the KK chose Sora instead since he is on the realm of light and have a heart of pure light with him, but Riku was later chosen by the WttD. what I'm trying to say is the KK and the WttD are they own keyblades nobody elses keyblades--Xabryn 16:43, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
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{{KrytenKoro "There are as many Keyblades as there are qualified hearts."
That's from Nomura. Really, the only ones that should need accounting are the dual blades - Sora's original Keyblade is quite plainly said by Nomura to be his own, even in the BBS interviews. However, his second Keyblade is Ventus's, because Ventus's heart is within him. Roxas's first Keyblade is also Sora's, existing in two places at once, just as Roxas is Sora existing in two places at once. His second Keyblade is Ventus's, because he retains Ventus's heart, and when Ventus's heart is returned to Sora with Sora's body, Sora gains Synch Blade as well (which is not fake but is simply the ability of summoning the second Keyblade). Xion's Keyblade is simply the memories of Roxas's (Sora's) original Keyblade, just as Xion is the memories of Roxas made solid. This is why she gains more control over her Keyblade as Roxas loses control. As for not having a Keyblade fight against itself, Xion vs. Roxas.
Kairi does not have a Keyblade. She can wield one, due to the semi-ceremony, but the Destiny Place isn't her's. Plus, it's just a keychain, apparently created by her influence, like Jungle King is made by Deep Jungle. At least according to the Another Report, it is Riku's Keyblade, which he is Synching and lending to her. It cannot be Aqua's, either, since Xemnas had possession of that in the Chamber of Repose.
If you want the honest part of it, though? This whole thing's a mess, and Nomura isn't very good at writing coherent stories. KH1 was extremely clear about Sora's Keyblade being the one destined for Terra, but he lost his qualification. The Kingdom Key D was also a Keyblade found in the Realm of Darkness by Mickey. KH2, along with Nomura's interviews at the time, then add in three other Keyblades (Roxas/Sora's 2, Riku's 1, Riku's 2), and Nomura explicitly says that Riku's Soul Eater became his Way to the Dawn, and the Destiny Place was his. He also says that Roxas's Keyblade is "what Sora lost in Castle Oblivion". Days/coded then says that Roxas had the Keyblade before the Castle Oblivion incident, and gives Mickey another Keyblade. Finally, BBS tries to say that Keyblades would be passed down, which might indicate that Sora has Terra and Ventus's Keyblades, but then that leaves Riku unexplained - it is possible, though never covered and in fact evidenced against, that a Keyblade can decide against its destined user due to darkness (what then of Xehanort's Keyblade? Or hell, Vanitas's? He was already dark when he got it.) It ALSO explicitly shows Terra's Keyblade going to the LS, physically, and then later appearing to save Aqua (and then it goes back? what?) Then, even if you argue that Sora has Terra+Ventus, and Riku has Xehanort+Aqua, the interviews indicate that Xehanort still has his Keyblade, he simply can't summon it, and Riku still uses the Way to the Dawn even after the Encoder erases Xehanort from his heart completely. You also have the problem of how Mickey "found" the Kingdom Key D, if you have to inherit it. Also, you have the problem of Vanitas - he has part of the heart of a Keyblade wielder, but he is a separate person, not a Nobody of Ventus - in fact, he is more than Ventus, since Ventus almost died without him. Basically, it was almost coherent, if fan-fic quality, at the end of KH2, and still possible with Days, but BBS and it's interviews make it fully contradictory.
- There's also the fact that even in KH, it is known that Keyblade wielders can be evil and/or full of darkness, and Riku, while evil, gets the Keyblade in Hollow Bastion, so then how could the Kingdom Key "decline" Riku? Is it simply because Sora got to it first? Had his heart somehow gotten very weak during that one episode?
Honestly, I think the best solution is to ignore parts of what the game and Nomura have said, especially since they don't make much sense to begin with (where did Aqua and Terra get their original Keyblades, if Eraqus still had his and was their only master?). Of course, it's entirely possible that he has been mistranslated, and the dubbed game will clear this up. The only working solution, as I see it, is to interpret the ceremony as merely giving the power to wield a Keyblade, and possibly the right to inherit the Keyblade if the original wielder loses it somehow. The Blades themselves are manifestations of the wielder's own power (like Bleach), and so the X-Blade is a manifestation of Ventus and Vanitas's hearts. So, this explains where everyone gets their first Keyblade, and it's just the Synch Blades that have to be accounted for.
Sorry if this is circular so far, I'm just trying to get my thoughts down.
Anyway:
- Sora's Synch Blade = Ventus's personal blade
- Riku's Synch Blade = Possibly Xehanort or Aqua's blade.
- Aqua's Eraqus Blade = Eraqus's personal blade.
- Mickey's Star Seeker = Yen Sid's personal blade, which he somehow gives to Sora as well. Or maybe it is Mickey's personal blade, and Mickey was full out quitting when he handed the Keyblade to Yen Sid. That actually makes more sense.
- Mickey's Kingdom Key D = ??? Somehow found in the World of Darkness. If the Star Seeker is Yen Sid's (unlikely, why wouldn't Yen Sid teach him to get his own Keyblade), then Mickey could have gained this by gaining his personal Keyblade in the World of Darkness. It's also possible that he simply found it in the dark-side Keyblade Graveyard, or maybe the inhabitants of the RoD aren't all evil, and willingly gave Mickey the blade. It might also be possible that Mickey stole it from a surviving dark-side Keyblader, same way Riku stole the Keyblade from Sora and Roxas. Out of character, but the best fit in the canon.
I guess what I'm trying to say here is that either Nomura is simply inconsistent, or tries to word things too technically, and the fans aren't good enough at translating to notice that (they did screw up on the KH3 thing, after all). I personally think the system works best like Bleach, with the possibility of taking another's blade through greater strength of heart or voluntary passage.}}
i like the idea that nomura sucks at consistency. Makes more sense than anything else. Unfortunately, it also means that KH will have an ending akin to that of lost: confusing and wide open for fanfics interpretation. KKD
KH Insider citation
Must be resourced to the interview itself, in the ultimania. Look at Keyblade of People's Hearts for an example.Glorious CHAOS! 03:32, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
brief glow of light?
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Battle Stance
Is it just my impression or the battle stance of Terra is used by Riku(only in DI) and Aqua's is used by Kairi (in the world that never was the only time she hold a keyblade weapon)--Xabryn 00:24, May 19, 2010 (UTC)