Talk:Hollow Bastion

Would someone mind providing a summary of how to navigate through the jail in the waterway please? I'm having trouble reaching a certain part there, and it might be helpful to others. Thanks.

I think some of the information here should be moved to radiant garden

Only the information regarding what's below the castle, surely... whatever is connected to the castle itself should be left in Hollow Bastion. As for the waterway, I think I'll have to replay that section - and if I do, I'll post the solution here. Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne

Cinderella

Would anyone mind putting a picture of Cinderella on here, not the class version in the awakening, but the actual picture plz. Thanks

Isn't the list of enemies in Hollow Bastion incomplete ?

As far as I know, the Kingdom Hearts list of enemies in Hollow Bastion only covers Sora's first visit. It doesn't cover Sora's second visit (where there are Red Nocturnes and Large Bodies as well) or even the invisible, powered-up version of the Soldier Heartless which can be found in Kingdom Hearts: Final Mix. Can someone please add them in for me ? Because I've no idea how to edit the enemy list. Thanks in advance. Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne

Treasures

Certain treasures were changed around in Final Mix, though the only ones I know of were Royal Crown and Ramuh Belt. Is there anyway for someone to look them up? We need to.Glorious CHAOS! 06:52, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Something my bro thought

I know this isnt the right place for this but...

My brother thought that this was beasts castle until he played kh2.Xeyj 06:09, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

were is the hollow bastion located.

please if u will tell me were it is located or what u do to get to him or there. i just got done saveing the queen and she told me to go there

Brith By Sleep Trailer

Kingdom Hearts Fan TALK - It was the natural thing to do... in the recent tgs birth by sleep trailer I've read that in a scene there was a castle with a town i guess could this be hollow bastion?

KrytenKoro - "An education was a bit like a communicable sexual disease. It made you unsuitable for a lot of jobs and then you had the urge to pass it on." TALK - And?

Kingdom Hearts Fan TALK - It was the natural thing to do... what do you mean "and" i was just wondering if this could be hollow bastion.

This scene was in Radiant Garden, there was Vexen, Xaldin and Lexaeus in their original forms (Sora1954, sorry i can't sign because there's a problem when i do this)

Villain's Vale (and other things that want questioning) ?

Christoph Schrader - When I think of Winter, I see a Happiness that cannot end. TALK - I would be delighted to talk. Does it seem to anyone else that Villain's Vale, not the castle shown in Kingdom Hearts II, was the world first shown under the name Hollow Bastion (which literally means "empty fortress")? I immediately thought that the two were the same due to the circuitry forming the walls in the room in which Pete and Maleficent are shown to meet, for this same sort of apparatus appears behind the walls in Kingdom Hearts though I find myself contradicted by the clockwork pieces of the castle in the centre of town (as well as what appears to be something that could have been the entrance to the original world in the Kingdom Hearts II artwork) and the statement that Aerith makes regarding the original castle having been Ansem's castle (thereby implying that Ansem's study is in an inaccessible basement region). While I am not asking that anything in the article be changed, I would like to hear some thoughts on the subject.

Wait : you're implying that the castle we first saw is Villain's Vale ? This monster... This is no Unversed. Just a dweller of Darkness. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 23:45, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

Christoph Schrader - When I think of Winter, I see a Happiness that cannot end. TALK - I would be delighted to talk. I am not really certain, but it appears as though it could very well be so for several reasons -- It is remarked where Maleficent used to reside. In the composition of its spires, it appears to be structurally similar to the original (though this case could also be made for the castle in the centre of town). The circuitry on the walls is similar. The Lift Stop, Library, Castle Chapel and Grand Hall are not present in the parts of Hollow Bastion accessible from the Postern. The foundations upon which the castles sit are different. The waterways are missing from the city part. The Castle Gates appear to lead nowhere. I do believe, however, that the castle in the centre of town could be the original after sustaining significant structural damage, or after having both the pipes that dominated the left half of its façade as well as the large heartless emblem. I would say that the case could be made for either structure being the original, or even for the original being some sort of world akin to Traverse Town that was composed of what remained of the original city and castle, as it appears as though the heartless have already taken the heart of the world, which is ostensibly restored alongside the Destiny Islands, among other places, alongside the vast lands of blue crystal. This was also my first impression of what the Villains' Vale was intended to be, especially because Diablo and the restored Maleficent appear to operate from it rather than returning to her world of origin. I may just be overstating a rather egregious error of internal consistency, the fact that Hollow Bastion looks drastically different in Kingdom Hearts II, including a massive change to the castle's structure, without any real explanation, though I really would like more thoughts on the subject.

I have a feeling that thing is what used to be Ansem the Wise's castle. The one which they were finally constructing (see the structural similarities ?) Also, it houses the place where Xehanort tore out his heart, and the artificial Keyhole. This coincides with the fact that Xehanort already sent the Heartless to open the Keyhole, see ? Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 00:55, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Christoph Schrader - When I think of Winter, I see a Happiness that cannot end. TALK - I would be delighted to talk. Hmm, I suppose I see the similarity between the town centre castle -- I give you my thanks for pulling me out of that plothole. The aesthetic dissimilarity between the two games is a bit disturbing, however.

Il n'y a pas de quoi ! ^_^ Though I wish that the castle could've been playable - as in the upper levels, not just the lower corridors. But you always have one thing in common : checkered floors ! It is rather funny what I would do for honey. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 01:00, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Christoph Schrader - When I think of Winter, I see a Happiness that cannot end. TALK - I would be delighted to talk. I really cannot believe that I didn't think to replace the pipes (I suppose that in Kingdom Hearts III, if it ever comes about, the castle should be restored to its former splendour), though I was actually quite fond of them myself. Regardless, I suppose this is one of few discrepancies of internal consistency within the series, though I suppose that Atlantica is really more cause for concern (though Hollow Bastion is my favourite world).

My favourite too ! I'm as good as new! All my functions have been restored! • TroisNyxÉtienne — 01:11, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Christoph Schrader - When I think of Winter, I see a Happiness that cannot end. TALK - I would be delighted to talk. Unlike the rest of the Radiant Garden, which poses as Final Fantasys world, Hollow Bastion has no relation to Final Fantasy whatsoever. Does this seem incorrect to anyone else?

HB = pure Kingdom Hearts. I wouldn't call it a relation to Final Fantasy unless there has been a similar manor in previous FF games. The entire design of the building coincides with Ansem's journal entries, and the Heartless emblem = even more Xehanort's Heartless. I'd call it Xehanort's building more than anything else. :P Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 07:27, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Christoph Schrader - When I think of Winter, I see a Happiness that cannot end. TALK - I would be delighted to talk. It is a castle, so it does resemble some locations in Final Fantasy games, but it does appear to pose as the Final Fantasy world in Kingdom Hearts, being what remains of the homeworld of Leon, Yuffie and Aerith (as well as a part of the Radiant Garden).

Like which locations exactly ? o.O Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 12:39, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Christoph Schrader - When I think of Winter, I see a Happiness that cannot end. TALK - I would be delighted to talk. It resembles other castles in that it is a castle (that was supposed to be perceived as a joke), though it does resemble some actual locations... A castle in the opening FMV of Final Fantasy III DS The castles appearing in Final Fantasy V Advance have similar brick colouring. Hollow Bastion is also vaguely reminiscent of Artemisia's Castle in Final Fantasy VIII. My argument was that this statement does not appear to be correct, by virtue of both the castle Hollow Bastion being a part of the larger world of the Radiant Garden, and that, in the original game, it does appear to stand in for the Final Fantasy world (as do Twilight Town and the Destiny Islands).

Indeed. Helping others always comes before asking others for help. • TroisNyxÉtienne — 02:09, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Maleficent and Unknown Room

What is the name of the room where Maleficent Dragon and Xemnas (Unknown) are fought?Glorious CHAOS! 10:19, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Characters

maggosh Strike backwards... — "That's a nice expression." You're terrified, aren't you? I think the characters that appear in the KHII Hollow Bastion should be removed and left on Radiant Garden's page, since we're trying to differentiate the two worlds. What do you think?