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Do we know for sure the Dark Seeker Saga is the "1st Phase"? It seems to me like the χ games aren't part of the Dark Seeker Saga (since they don't involve Xehanort), but also not the 2nd Phase. And Re Mind seems to fit in both. So are we sure that Dark Seeker Saga is the 1st Phase, or is it possible Phases and Sagas are different things? {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 17:42, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
Do we know for sure the Dark Seeker Saga is the "1st Phase"? It seems to me like the χ games aren't part of the Dark Seeker Saga (since they don't involve Xehanort), but also not the 2nd Phase. And Re Mind seems to fit in both. So are we sure that Dark Seeker Saga is the 1st Phase, or is it possible Phases and Sagas are different things? {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 17:42, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
:There is a no official comment on the phases available yet but at least to me it seems like they are more like production phases than self-contained story entries in a sense of a saga. I think the pre-release or post-release interviews for Melody of Memory might clarify the situation. As it is even the distinction between the Dark Seeker Saga and [https://twitter.com/kh_dr_na/status/1275111307008716802 χ series] is very muddy to begin with. --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 19:59, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
:There is a no official comment on the phases available yet but at least to me it seems like they are more like production phases than self-contained story entries in a sense of a saga. I think the pre-release or post-release interviews for Melody of Memory might clarify the situation. As it is even the distinction between the Dark Seeker Saga and [https://twitter.com/kh_dr_na/status/1275111307008716802 χ series] is very muddy to begin with. --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 19:59, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
::I'd like to think it is more of the production phases like Shard suggested. Also, in true Nomura fashion, something may be labeled as one category/"thing" at some point- perhaps during MoM?- but then be re-labeled as something else further down the series. >_< {{User:Xion4ever/Sig}} 23:46, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

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This should also list V Cast and the two facebook games as "related/licensed games"."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 18:53, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

I think it's perfectly fine under "Remakes and other titles". When you said you were the fun one on the lane, who was your competition? The mailbox? - Erry 07:04, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
Oh, sorry, I didn't see them there. We're still missing the Days facebook game."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 17:57, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Kingdom Hearts χ [chi]

The game is listed in the timeline of the Memorial Ultimania so even it its canon status is debatable it's part of the main series. Also giving the additional movie in the re-release of Re:coded with Maleficent and Pete everything could easily explained with a datascape-like plot device. --62.159.63.34 11:27, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

What's the issue here, whether its story is canon, or whether the game falls under "main series"? --Neumannz, The Dark Falcon 04:58, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
I think it's both. The argument I've made is that since it's canon (or the basic story is), it belongs under "Main Series". It can be seen on the IP's talk page, but I'll copy it here, so that we don't have to link to other places:
Kingdom Hearts χ is, in essence, canon. Nomura noted this in an interview with Famitsu in September:
"The "Tome of Prophecy" appearing in one is connected to KHχ (Key), so you'll come to understand what sort of power it holds. I included that element in KH2.5 because many people right now have the impression that χ(Key) is detached from the series, and I wanted to convey that there is indeed a firm connection."Translation of Revised Famitsu Interview - Kingdom Hearts Insider
Obviously, there are parts of Kingdom Hearts χ that can't be considered canon today, such as the inclusion of various Disney worlds and characters. Still, though, the main story of the game is canon. That's why it's alluded to in Kingdom Hearts HD 2.5 ReMIX, in the "Tome of Prophecy" cutscene. That's why Kingdom Hearts III is being developed alongside the online-game. That's why Tetsuya Nomura is looking for ways to localize Kingdom Hearts χ. Were it not so, the game would be similar to Kingdom Hearts Mobile: it wouldn't receive continuous coverage, nor would it ever be localized. That's why we've moved it to the Main Story section of the KH series Navigation template.

Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.pngKeybladeSpyMaster Diamond Dust Keychain KHFM.png 05:29, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

1st Phase/Dark Seeker Saga

Do we know for sure the Dark Seeker Saga is the "1st Phase"? It seems to me like the χ games aren't part of the Dark Seeker Saga (since they don't involve Xehanort), but also not the 2nd Phase. And Re Mind seems to fit in both. So are we sure that Dark Seeker Saga is the 1st Phase, or is it possible Phases and Sagas are different things? TheSilentHero 17:42, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

There is a no official comment on the phases available yet but at least to me it seems like they are more like production phases than self-contained story entries in a sense of a saga. I think the pre-release or post-release interviews for Melody of Memory might clarify the situation. As it is even the distinction between the Dark Seeker Saga and χ series is very muddy to begin with. --ShardofTruth 19:59, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
I'd like to think it is more of the production phases like Shard suggested. Also, in true Nomura fashion, something may be labeled as one category/"thing" at some point- perhaps during MoM?- but then be re-labeled as something else further down the series. >_< Xion4ever 23:46, 28 August 2020 (UTC)