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I realize I'm biased in that I'm on the opposite side of Kryten in this argument, but I don't think it's biased to say that the behavior I've highlighted is wrong, and we would not accept it from any other editor on this site. In fact, we've banned users in the past for this kind of hostile, toxic behavior. We can discuss policies, we can discuss how things should be done, heck, we can discuss how the staff can improve. But if that discussion is going to be held on a "You're all doing it wrong and should know better" kind of attitude, then this isn't going to work for anyone long term, and you can bet we will continue to hear people complain about not feeling like they can edit or contribute without fear of having their edits reverted inexplicably or rudely. {{KeybladeSpyMaster/Sig}} 05:13, 7 August 2019 (UTC) | I realize I'm biased in that I'm on the opposite side of Kryten in this argument, but I don't think it's biased to say that the behavior I've highlighted is wrong, and we would not accept it from any other editor on this site. In fact, we've banned users in the past for this kind of hostile, toxic behavior. We can discuss policies, we can discuss how things should be done, heck, we can discuss how the staff can improve. But if that discussion is going to be held on a "You're all doing it wrong and should know better" kind of attitude, then this isn't going to work for anyone long term, and you can bet we will continue to hear people complain about not feeling like they can edit or contribute without fear of having their edits reverted inexplicably or rudely. {{KeybladeSpyMaster/Sig}} 05:13, 7 August 2019 (UTC) | ||
::NONE of you were defensible in this matter, KSM, Kryten. If the edit war happened between you both, as I am led to understand, over something so ''trivial'' (pun intended) that basically blew up to include a whole host of policy issues, then it only shows me that neither of you were willing to yield, an action that you BOTH need to do with each other at this point. | |||
:: With regards to the image itself: I actually agree with Kryten, but not because I'm "standing up for him" or whatever argument anyone wants to use. Trivia is for very noticeable differences, for which a description is not long enough to make an entire conception / production / development section over. Or, it could involve subtle references to bits in Kingdom Hearts in other media. Anything less than that, in image form, unless given plot significance, is relegated to the Gallery. In my mind, unless Nomura assigns significance to having seemingly drawn Roxas older, it occupies the same place as the KHUX anniversary artwork: in the Gallery. | |||
:: That way, we can keep the article as speculation-free as possible. Because I know that if the image were given attention now, we'd be harping over it, and not just we, but everyone else who comes to this wiki will post speculatory theories about it. This is the antithesis of what we are as a wiki. | |||
:: Regarding the MOS: IT IS NOT SOMETHING TO BE DROPPED UPON PEOPLE LIKE INFLEXIBLE COMMANDMENTS. The whole point of rules, I have come to understand, is that they are there to maintain order in wiki editing, but on a case by case basis, there should be exceptions to the rule. Ultimately it is the ''spirit'' of the MOS, not its imperfect words, that we should be looking at. And I have gone through enough personal hell in my life to know that where people don't look at the spirit of a law or a rule, the purpose for which it is intended is lost, and hell breaks loose. '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#222222">TRS</font>]][[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#444444">NX</font>]]''' 11:43, 7 August 2019 (UTC) |
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