User talk:TheSilentHero/Archive-III

The Silent Archives
	Chain of Memories (2013 - 2014)
	358/2 Days (2015)
	Birth by Sleep (2016)
	Dream Drop Distance (2017)
	0.2 Birth by Sleep -A fragmentary passage- (2018 - 2020)
	Melody of Memory (Current)

It's so clean..

Chainoffire - "Hey, wait... I'm enjoying this. You guys are something else!" TALK - :) Chainoffire Here are the correct links for the forms: You now have until Friday. EDIT:I already have a majority of the framework, I'm just waiting for the final results to plug them into the page, I think I'll manage for now ^^, thanks for the offer though! And thank you for judging!

We need you!

April's Twilight Times issue will coincide with the wiki's 10th anniversary and to celebrate, we're putting together a special themed issue based around our wiki and its history. This is a reminder for you to check out the Journalist Spot, contribute your ideas and sign up to as many pieces as you offer! TheFifteenthMember 16:45, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Rollback

Yes, that was what happened (and the same thing happened once before too). It's when I'm browsing the RC on my phone that I accidentally click buttons when I scroll, which is a problem because I know now that rollback works on first click. Do you know if there's a way for me to hide the rollback option from the RC or do I just need to be more careful? TheFifteenthMember 18:34, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

I actually had that too, once. Maybe we could ask Porple if he can implement a confirmation screen or something... TheSilentHero 18:38, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

I'd like that, but we'll have to get everyone else's permission first. The rollback probably doesn't have a confirmation screen on purpose because it's meant for undoing mass-edits from vandals. In a perfect world, it would be nice if we can toggle on/off the confirmation screen as a setting in our preferences but I don't know if that's possible. TheFifteenthMember 18:44, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

In that case, it would be better to start a forum about this. I'm also not sure if it is even possible. TheSilentHero 18:48, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Seeking assistance

...in the completion of Forum:Dream Eater attack pages. ANX219 01:10, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

I still have a list of some of the DE's attacks, but I've been busy with other things, so I haven't made pages for those attacks yet. Basically, what I do is, I go to Flick Rush, use a DE's attacks, and note what they do (as the game lacks any descriptions on that part). And then I add notes from the Ultimania to it, and I put it all on the page. If you don't have the Ultimania, you can also create the pages without those notes and I'll fill them in for you. Information about when a DE can learn attacks is already on the DE pages. I hope this explanation helped a little, and I'll probably continue making these pages once I'm done with my current project (and I still have to write all my magazine stuff...). TheSilentHero 12:29, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Wiki tutorial collab

Hey there! Please read the instructions for the collab wiki review and send your section in ASAP! TheFifteenthMember 21:30, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

And there's more! Notes on the collab review are up! TheFifteenthMember 21:42, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Another reminder to let me know how you're doing. It's very important that you do so! TheFifteenthMember 21:00, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Antique home page

Will you be able to make sure that thing happens tomorrow? TheFifteenthMember 19:42, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

How "antique" do you want it to be? The very first version isn't much of a home page... TheSilentHero 19:55, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Maybe just emulate an old style and adapt the colours, borders and layout to suit our current one? TheFifteenthMember 22:16, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Keychains

KH2 was released before Days, but on the Keyblade wielders page, we list KHD keychains before KH2 keychains. We need to be consistent."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 21:35, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

I think we should only use the chronological order for Story sections only, and use the game release order for everything else, so KH2 needs to be before KHD. TheSilentHero 09:50, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Okay, as long as it is consistent."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 18:23, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

Flick Rush

I know it's been any area of interest for you, so here ya go."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 23:02, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!

TheFifteenthMember ...dango daikazoku~ — TheFifteenthMember 10:30, 7 April 2016 (UTC) KHUX came for YOU!

TheSilentHero 疾 - Speed! — 16:30, 7 April 2016 (UTC) Thanks! Too bad it released on the wrong continent...

Supernova, Shadow Flare

Why are we including the kana for those? They are English words, not translations."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 13:00, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

Shouldn't we have the Japanese name for all attacks? TheSilentHero 16:31, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

If we're making an article for them, probably, but the precedent from the sleights/cards pages I was following was that if it was just an English word, leave it as is (excepting actual localizations like Firaga Wall). There's not really a possibility of needing to go back and correct the translation for them."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 18:57, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

We list the Japanese names for everything else, so why not attacks? Also, it is more consistent if all attacks in the table have nihongo templates. TheSilentHero 20:41, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

As long as we're consistent."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 22:56, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

Kingdom Hearts Unchained Keyblade template

I don't think the KHX template can be expanded to also fit Unchained, we probably need a new (albeit similar) one. Instead of three attribute strength boosts, the Keyblade in Unchained has five. From level 1 to 20 it's actually straight forward: In the beginning only three of the five slots are accessible, the others are blocked. On certain levels (different for each Keyblade) the Keyblade's form changes like in [chi], one of two blocked slots is freed and the "special attack gauge" is increased. Between these form changes the power/speed/magic bonus on certain slots is increased or unlocked first.
At level 20 the Keyblade reaches its maximum normal stats, then things get complicated. From level 21-25 (current max) there is a second bonus added to each slot: the upright/reverse bonus. This is not an additional bonus, but more like an expanded bonus. For example we have a Speed x1.9/Upright x2.5 slot. Using a Power medals only gives x1.0, using a Speed medal gives x1.9 and using an Upright Speed medal gives a x2.5 boost. To make things even more complicated from level 21-25 the "special attack gauges" also increases irregularity.
This is not urgent or anything but maybe you come up with a good idea since your so good at this. If it helps, here is an image of the fully upgraded Starlight and here an album full of half-finished upgrades from the English release. --ShardofTruth 21:40, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Does the Power/Speed/Magic stat still increase once you get the Upright/Reverse bonus, or do you only upgrade the U/R bonus from that point on? TheSilentHero 22:12, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Also, how many upgrades do the Keyblades have so far? TheSilentHero 09:03, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

And would you be able to get the icons for Upright and Reverse? TheSilentHero 09:17, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

They do, I'm currently compiling a level list (missing some info) for Starlight. The current maximum level is 25 but it will most likely be 30 in the end since web [chi] introduced an item to upgrade their Keyblades to the maximum of 50. I will get this two icon right away. --ShardofTruth 09:39, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

I didn't make enough screenshots in the JP version, so I don't have the complete stats of Starlight, Olympia and Divine Rose. You can find everything here for testing purposes. --ShardofTruth 11:30, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Scratch that, the stats are complete now. As you can see Divine Rose changes forms very early and gets Upright/Reverse stats before level 20. --ShardofTruth 12:34, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

In what level do the Keyblades change form? TheSilentHero 16:28, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

That's different for every Keyblade: Starlight 4/11, Treasure Trove 5/17, Lady Luck 4/12, Three Wishes 4/15, Olympia 3/17 and Divine Rose 5/8. They each skip a level of the [chi] Keyblades, meaning only the Base, Upgrade 2 and Upgrade 4 images are used. -ShardofTruth 16:57, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

I made an example here. The only things missing are the Special Attack Gauge and the Keychain upgrades (although I think the Keychains can just be left out). What do you think so far? TheSilentHero 17:39, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

EDIT: I added the upgraded Keychains on the other tabs. TheSilentHero 18:04, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, great work. Displaying the images in tabs is a great idea and using double rows to display the Upright/Reverse bonus makes a lot of sense too. You're the best:D --ShardofTruth 18:15, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Added the Special Attack Gauges. Do you think the template is ready to be moved? TheSilentHero 17:09, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Absolutely:D --ShardofTruth 17:14, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

All right, I moved it. TheSilentHero 17:18, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, I'll fill out the rest shortly. --ShardofTruth 18:02, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

The Main Page

Hello. I was wondering what the specifics of the situation were when it was decided that we would change the Wiki's main page to honor our tenth anniversary. Since that time has passed and I personally feel the current main page looks terrible (there's a reason we changed it over the years, no?), I'd like to discuss reverting back to the original theme and finish off the Kingdom Hearts χ decorating that TNE had started. Given the recent release of Unchained χ, I feel this is appropriate. - Eternal Nothingness XIII 08:34, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

I would say, bring it up on the 10th anniversary forum, but it seems FM already did that. TheSilentHero 11:44, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Coliseum template

Hey, turns out it ended at 72 rows. Could you bump it up to 75 (just in case)? TheFifteenthMember 19:04, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

Done! TheSilentHero 10:01, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! TheFifteenthMember 15:57, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

~(^.^)~

So I wasn't able to get on the wiki on your birthday, and I totally forgot to wish you a happy one when I did get on the wiki. *Chain is an awful person* But, I hope you did have a great birthday, and I hope this year gives you much joy! Thanks for being awesome. Chainoffire 18:15, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, Chain! TheSilentHero 18:33, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

Rooms

Since the rooms are rippable in KHX, would you be able to help me start uploading them to this and unchained wiki? I'm going to try and go through to get the official English names of each room, but if you want to go on the Japanese names or even simply "Wonderland Room 1 KHX.png" for now, that would be fine. Probably would help to categorize these as something like "Wonderland images", etc., in addition to standard licensing. It looks like there's different versions of many rooms due to lighting effects, so I don't know what we should do there -- pick the one with the best contrast/least abnormalities, or what?"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 19:14, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Disney Park Userboxes

You wouldn't happen by chance to be available to make Disney attraction userboxes for the Disney Wiki? Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 19:25, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

I'm a little busy with other things at the moment. TheSilentHero 20:42, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Anyone you can defer too? Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 22:50, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Can't you do it yourself? Userboxes aren't that hard to make. TheSilentHero 17:17, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Well there would be alot to make. Byzantinefire - There are no strings on me (talk) 23:50, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Chat

Hi, TheSilentHero. Can you come on Chat? I need to discuss something with you.--NinjaSheik 21:00, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

I'm on. TheSilentHero 21:22, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Can you come on again?--NinjaSheik 19:49, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

I didn't see your message until now, but I'm on now if you're still available. TheSilentHero 20:09, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Personal attack?

Mind pointing me to it? --Webber22 (talk) 02:39, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

I think you very well know what I was referring to. TheSilentHero 10:28, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

No, I actually don't. --Webber22 (talk) 18:31, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

End Result

So, what do do, TheSilentHero? I gave it a day and waited to see what'll happened as we agreed. With Webber22 refusing to cooperate or even acknowledge that (s)he have personally attacked me, I'm still strongly set on blocking Webber. Users shouldn't be allowed to get away with attacking a user, and not expect to have punishment dished out, especially since the reason for such hostility has not been explained.--NinjaSheik 00:48, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

While it's true he still doesn't acknowledge his actions, he also hasn't attacked you since our last chat. Like I said last time, it's your call. TheSilentHero 06:53, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Sorry to chime in, maybe it's not my place to speak up but I will do so anyway because I'm an insufferable person (sometimes, ...maybe). It is obvious that Webber22 reacted quite strongly to NinjaSheik's proposal to delete the April Fools' Day page he prepared for a long time. I'm still surprised you were so adamant about deleting it (and probably still are?), just because you don't like the day. But let's not get distracted.

I agree that Webber22's accusations are way overboard and out of place for a such a discussion, he should apologize for them, but I also disagree with how this whole thing was moderated. Either you get a warning and this discussions is over because nothing good can come out of it anymore or you keep on discussing and make everything worse. You just can't give out warnings on user's talk pages and then still expect "the hostility to be explained", that's not how any of this works. And now there is even an option to block him completely just because he still didn't behave the way you wanted him, that's not okay. The moment you put the warning on his page you ended that discussion yourself.

Webber22 is not the easiest person to work with, that's for sure. But working with this wiki is also not really that easy, especially using an outsider perspective The decision making lies in the hand of a very few people, projects are often only pushed by one or two editors and often neglected parts of the wiki are often kept alive by a single user only. What I'm trying to say is that it's really easy to step on someone's toes here. --ShardofTruth 08:14, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Not logged in, but here's my reply: Adamantly? Not quite. I gave my opinion on deleting it, and that's that. I wasn't even the one who proposed to delete in the first place. And quite frankly, if Webber22's reason to hate me was over a simple prank page, then that is kind of petty. It's not as if I acted independently, and just deleted the page outright. No. I followed the wiki's policies because things are decided on by the entire community. And here's the thing, ShardofTruth, Webber22 has been banned before for personally attacking users, even before becoming "Webber22". I don't like blocking/banning people, but looking through his messages, I'm surprised he wasn't perma-banned before. Again, I don't like blocking/banning people, but I will do it if I believe it is the right thing to do. I even asked and discussed this at length with fellow staff members in order to remain fair. I tried to get the bottom of the situation, and asked repeatedly. Webber22 not only refuses to cooperate (as you know, the wiki doesn't want users fighting and encourage them to come to a solution), but has directly insulted and threw accusations at me. He even refuses to acknowledge the attacks. That's why I asked TheSilentHero to mediate the situation, because I am the target of said attacks, even if I, as an admin, could've just banned Webber22 from the first attack. But I didn't, because I wanted to solve this problem without having to block/ban anyone. So, if it's up to me as an admin, then I will block Webber22 as soon as I finish with my final exam today.--137.30.176.23 12:36, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

GUYS. We have the Heartless Manufactory. I have a wishlist of pages for that already in the waiting."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 13:39, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Did we read the same conversation? You went on and on about deleting this page even after it was cleared up that it was community work that didn't work out and the others changed their opinion. What's your problem with it? Do I also have to remind you that it was also you that deleted his user images without giving him a chance to host those off-site simply because you could?
Banning is really the last step that should be taken when there are threats being made, a user is harassed or we're dealing with someone who clearly make edits in bad faith and/or with malicious intent.
He hurt you, that's not okay. He should apologize but he didn't therefore a warning was given, now it's time to move on. If you ban him now, simply because you can, then you are petty. I also don't really get your arguments here, first you're telling me you want to solve this problem without a ban, even got TheSilentHero involved, and now you're thinking whatever, let's ban anyway. And for the record, discussing how to deal with someone's behavior behind the stage and then coming forward with the result is kind of shady in an open forum like a wiki.
Edit: Ninja'd by Kryten, but I agree with him. --ShardofTruth 13:44, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Just to add because I thought you might get my message the wrong way: I'm not saying you're are at fault NinjaSheik. You don't have to listen to any of mine or Webber's crap but you're an admin and therefore should act like an example of how good communication should would here. Thanks for reading and good luck with your final exam. --ShardofTruth 14:03, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Here's my view on this: When NinjaSheik and I first talked about this, I said we should warn him first, and block him if he continued attacking her. After the warning, he left another message which NinjaSheik felt offensive. Therefore, we were discussing whether we should block him after that message, but since the message itself was less offensive than the previous, we decided to wait and see how the discussion proceeded. In this discussion, NinjaSheik repeatedly asks Webber why he was being offensive, but he refuses to answer, as well as denying that he attacked her in any way. We also looked at his past, and he had been warned and banned for similar cases before. Combine that with the fact that he doesn't acknowledge doing anything wrong, and it is very likely he will do this again when he disagrees with someone else. Looking back, the April Fools thing may not have been handled very tactful, but that isn't a reason to attack someone. Also, I don't see why discussing this in private is shady. If we had discussed this on the wiki, Webber may have had more reason to attack both of us. As for what to do now, I honestly don't know, since this is my first time dealing with something like this. As the hostility between NinjaSheik and Webber has ended now, I guess we could let him go, although the least he could do is apologize for what he did. TheSilentHero 17:10, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

TheSilentHero, looks like this situation has escalated further than expected. I'm sorry for involving you in this, as you haven't dealt with something like this before. :( And I'm sorry your talk page has kind of became a debate ground.--NinjaSheik 17:36, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Like I said before; there's no need to be sorry. TheSilentHero 17:53, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for all of your input. :) But I think it's better for you not get involved in this anymore. This matter is becoming a huge headache, and you (and your talk page; again, sorry about that) were dragged into because I needed a person who available and had an objective stance as an admin. Now the situation is a mess, but again, thank you for taking the time to help me through it.--NinjaSheik 18:03, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

As far as apologies go, whether or not a person thinks they are at fault for it, it's critical to recognize that the other person is hurting. As far as asking "why this happened", etc., I think it's pretty clear -- webber feels like he was attacked for the April Fools event, and cast aspersions while complaining about it, Ninja decided to confront him with the issue, both sides got defensive, bada bing bada boom.

For my part, I apologize for not stepping in earlier during the April Fools discussion and later when Webber got pissed about it, allowing it to get heated. I'd really appreciate it if Webber can recognize that his pretty inarguable personal attacks were unacceptable, and also if both parties can recognize that the both of you are sincere, dedicated editors, and neither of you is trying to destroy the wiki. Again: disagreeing over content does not make either side a villain, but attacking your fellows kinda does.

Also, I totally have some articles I need worked on if you guys are willing to do the Manufactory thing."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 18:17, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

See Webber22's latest message on my talk page. I'm done. It's done. I'm sorry I dragged you into this.--NinjaSheik 04:01, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

To be honest, I'm surprised it took him so long to respond to the discussion. At least we can end the discussion now. In my opinion, you definitely did the right thing. TheSilentHero 14:52, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Unfortunately, it isn't that simple. KrytenKoro allowed Webber22 to edit on his talk page, and apparently, one my suspicions have been confirmed. I always thought Webber22 might've know who I was offsite, and it seems abundantly clear given what Webber22 just posted on his talk page, that is a fact. There's something obviously more to all of this, and I want to know what. Plus, KrytenKoro wants Webber22 back, even after everything. I'm not going to be blame if he comes back. Whoever wants him back, despite everything, that's entirely on them. I'm sorry that your proposal about to deal with Webber22 has snubbed by him, by the way. I know you wanted to help him, in your own way. I might've disagreed with it, but I know you were trying to appease the situation. I feel really bad for dragging you into this. I guessed I should've just asked for your opinion like TFM, and let that be. :( Instead, you were pulled into this mess. I'm sorry.

But hey, thank you. You were very attentive about this whole. :) Thank you for keeping an eye on it, and being level-headed. And thanks for your support. Even after being banned, Webber22 still persists on insulting me, as you can see. I think I made the right call, but unfortunately, well, you know.--NinjaSheik 18:15, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

I think it is possible that by using your real name, he wants to make it look like he knows you, but that he actually doesn't. Keep in mind that you have your real name listed on your userpage. (I'm not saying you should remove it, but he could have gotten it from there.) TheSilentHero 18:37, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

That doesn't give him the right to use it. It's my name, after all. Ah, to be honest, I've been thinking about removing for a while. Never saw the point, though. My first name is very common, so I never worried about it, but I don't like people addressing me by first name without permission.--NinjaSheik 18:44, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

In the future, for the love of God can we have a policy of mediation by third party when it's an issue of internal drama rather than a purely janitorial action? I don't think there was any specific misuse of staff powers in this situation, but it certainly doesn't help that the administrative actions were taken by someone who was party to the incident.

"Plus, KrytenKoro wants Webber22 back, even after everything."

No, I'm pointing out the bare minimum of what Webber would have to do to even get my tolerance of him coming back, as I do at every wiki I work at. My laying out terms to a disruptive editor is not in any way evidence of eagerness."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 20:20, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Time for talking is down with Webber22. We don't have a clear policy about talk pages (or at least, none that I could fine), but given how his words was the thing got him into trouble, it's why I made sure to prevent him from using his talk pages. As you you see, Kryten, the situation has only gotten worse. I honestly don't what Webber22 is talking about half the time, since so far, everything that comes from has been lies or exaggeration.--NinjaSheik 20:50, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Besides blocks performed by you (which probably need to be revised, I hadn't noticed them), we've only blocked talk page use for aggressive sockpuppeting, unacceptable usernames (so we wouldn't let the talk page be created in the first place), and spamming links to external sites. We've only locked a talk page down from all editing when the editor tried to keep blanking away the notices from admins. Webber, for all of his abrasiveness, has done none of these things."We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 21:56, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Because we're such a small community, I have done very little blocks. And what about continued hostile behavior? Trying to talk to Webber22 at this point is a lost cause. His arguments make no sense half the time, are made of lies and/or exaggeration, and is just causing more drama. Seriously, bringing up a forum incident which I took part in 7 YEARS ago when I was a 14-year-old kid, and directly has nothing to do with this KHWiki is not making his argument any stronger. I am curious to know about the KH-Vids thing is all about, but clearly this whole, and I quote Webber22, "Because unlike you, I know her. And I know what sort of trouble she brings everywhere she goes," is completely invalid. Webber22 is trying really hard to degrade me by pointing out my apparent very colorful past that really has nothing to do with anything recent, but things that I have done when a kid, already apologized for, and happened offsite. Like you, I don't see the point of bringing it back up. I'm not going to air out everyone's past like he did, because past is past, especially when I do feel bad for things I've done in the past and apologized for it, and has nothing to do with the KHWiki now. I'm not the only one with a past. You, EO, me, and even new users like Kunoichi101, who I know from the Narutopedia, done things we're not proud of. Doesn't give me or anyone else's the right to bring something doesn't concern the KHWiki up here, or trying to weigh our mistakes on a set of scales, which Webber22 is doing.--NinjaSheik 22:11, 1 June 2016 (UTC)