User talk:Ark

UxieLover1994 Tiempo de morder de nuevo con el poder! El tema de hoy: su sorpresa! — 06:16, 22 November 2011 (UTC) You from the Keyhole? It's very unuseral for some new user to know everything there is to know about editing only seconds after joining, y'know.

Ark - Eternal Darkness TALK - 06:51, 22 November 2011 (UTC) No, not the Keyhole. I originate from the FFWiki.

KrytenKoro - "It is often said that before you die your life passes before your eyes. It is in fact true. It's called living." TALK - I don't want to derail the forum by asking it there, but how clear, exactly, is it that a certain person is an op on the IRC? I've never been super-experienced on the IRC, so I'm wondering if the "reflecting badly" thing would only be apparent while the user is opped on the channel, or if your argument is closer to "he should be banned from the channel".

Ark - Eternal Darkness TALK - 20:16, 23 November 2011 (UTC) Whilst, yes, a user with operator rights is most easily visible when they are OP'd, the information is always visible on the channel Access List - any user with the +o flag is a channel operator. Any user can view the Access List, and operators are generally viewed as the 'officials' of the channel. As the channel is in 'Primary' # namespace (official) rather than 'Topical' ## namespace (unofficial) according to freenode's policies, it can be considered an extension of the wiki. I would personally not favour a ban; I generally prefer to use quiets rather than bans and I don't think that either is warranted here. It really depends on how rigidly you want to enforce the channel rules.

KrytenKoro - "An education was a bit like a communicable sexual disease. It made you unsuitable for a lot of jobs and then you had the urge to pass it on." TALK - I was more trying to get at whether you're saying that Erry's behavior while opped "dishonors" us, or if it's his behavior whenever he's on the channel.

Ark - Eternal Darkness TALK - 22:40, 23 November 2011 (UTC) I would say that 'dishonour' is a little too strong; the concept of honour is largely a matter of personal interpretation. It is more to do with a lack of maturity and professionalism. I feel that an operator should continue to behave sensibly, affably and decorously even when not OP'd on the channel; ErryK does not have a good history there. As I have previously said, I consider ErryK's behaviour and temperament inappropriate for someone entrusted with operator rights. Of course, I merely present my own opinion; it is ultimately up to you, the Admins, to decide how strictly you feel that an operator should adhere to your channel's rules and, indeed, simple decorum and whether or not you feel that they should continue to do so when not OP'd.