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| == Issues with article == | | == Issues with article == |
| | *"Appearances" section should be reworked into "Story" |
| | **Needs to be in-universe (No "In Kingdom Hearts II", etc.) |
| | **"Furthermore, a Moogle falls on Donald Duck after completing Neverland." -- the Furthermore sounds ridiculous. |
| | **"An unnamed Moogle" -- Moogles, as a general rule, are unnamed. "Unnamed" should not be used as a descriptor, since it doesn't specify anything. Only the named ones should be called out. |
| | **"When Sora speaks to the Moogle in the First District in Traverse Town, it is revealed that Pinocchio enjoys ruffling the Moogles' pom-poms." -- change to "According to the Moogle in the First District[link], Pinocchio etc." |
| | **"—The Organization Moogle, quoting Xemnas when asked what its name is." -- change to, "The Moogle, channeling Xemnas." |
| | **"In Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days, a Moogle appears in various locations throughout the worlds, always donning a Black Cloak." -- this is incorrect. It appears only at the Grey Room and the Station Plaza. |
| | **Each section should include a divved table, based on SorcererNobody's draft (as used on Avatar Menu) that details all the things the Moogle sells, synthesizes, or redeems. SN's draft has this done for Days already, I believe. |
| | ***"In order to unlock The King and Sora for playability the Multiplayer Mode, they must be purchased from the Moogle." -- would be unnecessary. |
| | ***The section should have a quick summary of the types of items that can be obtained from each method, if that is feasible. Something like what is done with [[Treasure Chest]]. |
| | **"While the Moogle appears to hold some relationship to Organization XIII, as exemplified by its black coat, it is unknown if it is affiliated with them. For example, the Moogle flees the Organization with Roxas, saying that he would miss all the munny he spends at his shop, seemingly more interested in simply collecting munny rather than serving Organization XIII." -- WRONG. |
| | ***It clearly has a relationship, it is set up in their lounge. |
| | ***This should be worded to focus more on that it does not ''serve Xemnas'', and instead followed its best Org. customer, Roxas, due to its love of munny. |
| | **"In Kingdom Hearts II, the Moogles use holograms to run their synthesis shops, except for Mog in Radiant Garden and Elmina in Twilight Town. According to Jiminy's Journal, it is because they hate getting their pom-poms ruffled." -- I believe Moogles have hologram shops in BbS, too, indicating that this is the natural way. This should be in the lead, with a direct citation to the Journal. Something like, "Moogles usually operate their shops on other worlds through hologram, as they dislike customers ruffling their Pom-poms." |
| | **"The Moogles also appear outside of synthesis shops as well. While on Destiny Islands, Selphie's purse has a Moogle clip attached to it. In addition, there is a special Gummi ship modeled after a Moogle." -- should be in other appearances, or something similar. |
| | *"Appearance" needs to be "Design", and should be combined with "Origin" |
| | *Party navbox should be removed. |
| | *World-based categories should be removed, since Moogles appear on pretty much all worlds. |
| | *We need a rip of the Moogle Gummi Ship |
| | *Dissidia section is missing mention of the Mognet, and we should see if the Mognet has references to the KHverse. |
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| HUGE ISSUE: "Appearances" and "Appearance"
| | {{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 01:03, 30 May 2011 (EDT) |
| KrytenKoro unacceptable
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| KrytenKoro DNT
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| KrytenKoro DTN
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| KrytenKoro unacceptable
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| DoorToNothing (?)
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| KrytenKoro There are two main sections
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| KrytenKoro one is "Appearances"
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| KrytenKoro the next is "Appearance"
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| KrytenKoro that's awful
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| KrytenKoro simply awful
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| DoorToNothing Oh.
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| KrytenKoro if it is meant to be a story section, it should be written as such
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| DoorToNothing ...
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| DoorToNothing KrytenKoro, how could you let this happen?
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| KrytenKoro especially considered the sections are in story order
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| Neumannz LAAAAAAAWL
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| KrytenKoro "Furthermore, a Moogle falls on Donald Duck after completing Neverland. "
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| DoorToNothing Shame unto thine ancestors!
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| KrytenKoro that's shitty
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| Neumannz ROFLMOFL
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| KrytenKoro "An unnamed Moogle"
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| KrytenKoro Moogles, as a rule, are unnamed
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| KrytenKoro we should only take note when they ARE named, like in KH2
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| DoorToNothing Counterpoint: KH2
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| KrytenKoro all other instances, just say, "A moogle"
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| KrytenKoro "When Sora speaks to the Moogle in the First District in Traverse Town, it is revealed that Pinocchio enjoys ruffling the Moogles' pom-poms. "
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| KrytenKoro just say "According to the Moogle in the First District[link], Pinocchio etc."
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| KrytenKoro "—The Organization Moogle, quoting Xemnas when asked what its name is. "
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| KrytenKoro quoting is incorrect
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| KrytenKoro "channeling" is more accurate
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| KrytenKoro "when asked what its name is" is probably patronizing
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| KrytenKoro "In Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days, a Moogle appears in various locations throughout the worlds, always donning a Black Cloak."
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| KrytenKoro It do not
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| KrytenKoro It appears in the Grey Room
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| KrytenKoro and at the Station Plaza
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| KrytenKoro "In order to unlock The King and Sora for playability the Multiplayer Mode, they must be purchased from the Moogle. "
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| KrytenKoro These should simply be listed among the items it sells
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| KrytenKoro also, it should be mentioned that it runs an HP shop, and redeems Challenge Sigils and Mission Crowns
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| KrytenKoro "While the Moogle appears to hold some relationship to Organization XIII, as exemplified by its black coat, it is unknown if it is affiliated with them. For example, the Moogle flees the Organization with Roxas, saying that he would miss all the munny he spends at his shop, seemingly more interested in simply collecting munny rather than serving Organization XIII. "
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| KrytenKoro is wrong-headed
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| KrytenKoro it clearly has a relationship with them
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| KrytenKoro it set up shop in their damn lounge
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| KrytenKoro should be worded more that it does not appear to SERVE XEMNAS, seeing as it followed its best customer in the Org., Roxas, rather than staying at the Headquarters
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| Neumannz ok, done with adding clear2
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| KrytenKoro perhaps tying into its personality of unfettered greed
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| KrytenKoro "In Kingdom Hearts II, the Moogles use holograms to run their synthesis shops, except for Mog in Radiant Garden and Elmina in Twilight Town. According to Jiminy's Journal, it is because they hate getting their pom-poms ruffled. "
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| KrytenKoro something like
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| KrytenKoro "After the worlds were restored, the Moogles once again set up their shops across the worlds."
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| KrytenKoro wait
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| KrytenKoro wait wait
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| KrytenKoro do they use holograms in BbS:?
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| KrytenKoro How do they operate in BbS?
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| KrytenKoro if they do it in BbS, then it shouldbe assumed to be their natural behavior, and placed in the lead, with a citation to the journal
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| KrytenKoro "The Moogles also appear outside of synthesis shops as well. While on Destiny Islands, Selphie's purse has a Moogle clip attached to it. In addition, there is a special Gummi ship modeled after a Moogle. "
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| KrytenKoro that is not Moogles
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| KrytenKoro that is other appearances
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| KrytenKoro or something
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| KrytenKoro trivia, if necessary
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| KrytenKoro but it is not their plot info
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| KrytenKoro Origin and Appearance should be combined into Design
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| KrytenKoro And it would be WONDERFUL if the Shop, Redeem, and Synthesis lists from each of the games could be added to each section of the plot
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| KrytenKoro SorcererNobody's Guide has the Days one's done, I think
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| KrytenKoro Also, what is a "mured Moogle"?
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| Neumannz that would be cid of the lufane...?
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| DoorToNothing Yes.
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| KrytenKoro right, but what the hell does "Mured" mean?
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| DoorToNothing While trapped in the Insano Realm.
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| Neumannz look it up
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| DoorToNothing doesn't know.
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| Neumannz en.wiktionary.org/wiki/mured
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| DoorToNothing I actually asked a mod from FFWiki who is obsessed with Dissidia 012 to write that section.
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| ErryK Done with all the treasure chests.
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| KrytenKoro wiktionary calls it "walled"
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| KrytenKoro a walled Moogle?
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| KrytenKoro does the game seriously call it "Mured"?
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| Neumannz he is confined, so to speak
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| KrytenKoro oh
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| KrytenKoro Imprisoned, gotcha
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| KrytenKoro ...crazy dubbers
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| KrytenKoro anyway
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| KrytenKoro Finally
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| KrytenKoro why does the Moogle have the "Party" navbox?
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| Neumannz ...because of FFVI?
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| ErryK Do we want the world cards from Re:coded?
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| KrytenKoro on our wiki
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| KrytenKoro yes
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| KrytenKoro yes we do
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| DoorToNothing slaps Neumannzy.
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| KrytenKoro we want all those things
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| -->| Silversey (~ENUO@99-194-64-139.dyn.centurytel.net) has joined #KHWiki-noticeboard
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| KrytenKoro OH!
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| KrytenKoro wait, one last thing:
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| ErryK I'll show you what I mean.
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| KrytenKoro No, I know
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| Neumannz whaaaaaaaaaat
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| KrytenKoro the ones you get before clearing the CO floor
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| KrytenKoro the ones you get from D Roxas
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| KrytenKoro "Traverse Town | Hollow Bastion/Radiant Garden | The World that Never was | Twilight Town | Mirage Arena"
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| KrytenKoro Ridiculous
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| ErryK Bluuuuuuuuuuuuuuurgh, can't see them.
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| KrytenKoro Moogles appear on all worlds
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| KrytenKoro It makes no sense to link all of them like that
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| ErryK I think they mean the real ones...
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| ErryK Not the holograms.
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| KrytenKoro now, if we wanted to have redirects for each of the NAMED moogles, then those pages could have the cats
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| KrytenKoro but
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| KrytenKoro It's just a mess to have them all on the Moogle page
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| KrytenKoro wait
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| KrytenKoro wait wait wait
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| KrytenKoro FUCK
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| KrytenKoro Are we planning on having a Moogle Shop article too, or just Moogles?
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| KrytenKoro I mean, I could see going either way
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| KrytenKoro OH FUCK WE NEED A RIP OF THE MOOGLE GUMMI SHIP
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| KrytenKoro Oh and
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| KrytenKoro "Dissidia Final Fantasy"
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| KrytenKoro section is missing Mognet
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| KrytenKoro ...which we should honestly check the letters for KH references
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| KrytenKoro hmm.
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| |<-- SilverCrono has left freenode (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
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| KrytenKoro anyway
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| KrytenKoro those are all the issues I can see
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| KrytenKoro the actual spelling and grammar look fine, for the most part
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| KrytenKoro but
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| ErryK GOT IT.
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| KrytenKoro the page basically needs a massive rewrite
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| KrytenKoro I will post this log on the talk page
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Days
As they're wearing cloaks, do you think they might be nobody moogles? Myself 123 21:51, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
- Personally, I believe that the Cloaked Moogles are using the cloaks to protect them from Darkness. It appears that the main transportation in Days is through the Corridors of Darkness and the Black Cloak is noted for protection against Darkness.
- Could be. Myself 123 17:22, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Organization XIII Moogle Image
I uploaded an image of the Organization XIII Moogle, but I'm not really sure what to do about the edges? The image is taken from a screenshot of the game. Oblivionkeeper 03:24, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Days Job
I know what a Moogle does in Days. Should I add this, so long as I don't screw up the formatting? Endless Oblivion
I quote
The first time you speak to a Moogle in a new room you will receive a free card packet consisting of five different attack cards.
Though this doesn't seem to be the case at Castle Oblivion for me. Consider this : I'm now in LV76 and I've obtained almost all attack cards (with the exception of Ultima Weapon) and instead of giving me a free card pack first, it prompts me to cash in cards for points. Then it gives me a card pack. Or sometimes, it doesn't.
And note : I'm not playing the English release of Re:Chain, but the extension of KHIIFM+. TNÉ En avant Bravo ! 11:42, October 24, 2009 (UTC)
Organization Moogle Page
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Morghman - Now! Let's savor the utmost of suffering together! TALK - As the other dies, their agony radiates through my body, and living through it is pure ecstasy!
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I just finished Days on Proud,(no biggy), and I noticed that the Moogle seen on the coat is one individual, therefore I suggest we create a page for this Moogle. Who would deny this little bundle of joy his own page? Any objections?
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Nitrous X Talk! — Then I shall make you see...That your hopes are nothing. Nothing but a mere illusion! Don't I even warrant a hello, Lexaeus?
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I have no objections, this Moogle is definitely an individual. But, some other users probably would since there's not a whole bunch of info on the page.
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KrytenKoro - This is the song that runs under the credits; these are the credits, so this is where it goes. 'has nothing to do with the movie so we'll say, "Hey! Hey! Hey hey hey hey hey hey!" TALK -
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We don't really have sections on the individual Moogles from 1, Com, and 2, though. It would be a good idea to cover what we do know about the characters here (Org Moogle does not have enough info for its own page, but would work well here), and have shop listings and mechanics on the Moogle Shop page.
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Nitrous X Talk! — Then I shall make you see...That your hopes are nothing. Nothing but a mere illusion! Don't I even warrant a hello, Lexaeus?
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Huh... I always thought that the moogles from KH1, CoM, and KH2 weren't individual moogles but a multitude of moogles. Maybe the Organization Moogle will appear in a future installment with more information... even though he (or she) wasn't in Days that much, they're still one of my favorite characters.
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After Days
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Nitrous X Talk! — Then I shall make you see...That your hopes are nothing. Nothing but a mere illusion! Don't I even warrant a hello, Lexaeus?
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What do you think happened to the Organization XIII Moogle after the events of Days?
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IT BLEW UP AND DIED! Kidding, I don't know. Maybe it went back to the Orgy and we just don't see it again after that.--User:PrincessAndie8thprincessofheart/sig 22:25, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
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Nitrous X Talk! — Then I shall make you see...That your hopes are nothing. Nothing but a mere illusion! Don't I even warrant a hello, Lexaeus?
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How dark, Andie. I hope that he's the Moogle that lives in Twilight Town in KH2. In the Fanon I'm writing, I have Roxas and the Moogle reunite as friends after the events of KH2 (Roxas gets ressurected).
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A Quote I need
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Nitrous X Talk! — Then I shall make you see...That your hopes are nothing. Nothing but a mere illusion! Don't I even warrant a hello, Lexaeus?
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I really need some help here. Can someone tell me (word for word) what the Moogle in Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days says after he and Roxas escape the Organization and return to Twilight Town. Something about missing his Munny. Please help!
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How do you even get the Moogle to talk to you? Every time I go up to it, it says that it has new stuff to sell.--User:PrincessAndie8thprincessofheart/sig 22:26, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
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Nitrous X Talk! — Then I shall make you see...That your hopes are nothing. Nothing but a mere illusion! Don't I even warrant a hello, Lexaeus?
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To get him to say something different you have to either unlock Mickey or Sora, or talk to him right before you fight Xion for the first time
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I guess I have to unlock Mickey or Sora, because right before I fought Xion the first time he still said the good stuff thing.--User:PrincessAndie8thprincessofheart/sig 22:34, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
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Nitrous X Talk! — Then I shall make you see...That your hopes are nothing. Nothing but a mere illusion! Don't I even warrant a hello, Lexaeus?
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Oh... maybe it was a glitch. Ugh... I really wish someone knew that quote.
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I got it last night.
"I couldn't let you leave the castle alone, kupo! Your munny always has a place in my pocket, kupo." 24.184.119.6 16:15, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
Holy crud! THANK YOU!!!!! --Nitrous X 01:49, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
Castle Oblivion
Don't Moogles also reside in Castle Oblivion? --User:PrincessAndie8thprincessofheart/sig 14:50, December 23, 2009 (UTC)
Moogles as D-Links?
Really? What powers do you get from using it?Keyblade474 12:20, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
Names
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Nitrous X Talk! — Then I shall make you see...That your hopes are nothing. Nothing but a mere illusion! Don't I even warrant a hello, Lexaeus?
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Moogles don't have names in this series, do they? Then why does it say "Mog" and "Elmina" appear in KH2???
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Eternal Nothingness XIII - You have to be strong. Strength of heart will carry you through the hardest of trials. TALK - What I do, I do for friendship. — 00:01, February 22, 2010 (UTC)
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That's because, if one looks carefully at the shops when they enter one, they'll see "Mog's Shop" in the far corner or something like that. Those are the names of the Moogles that run said shop. So yes, they are named.
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UxieLover1994 Tiempo de morder de nuevo con el poder! El tema de hoy: su sorpresa! — 08:00, April 30, 2010 (UTC)
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It's true. I remember a Moogle named Artemicion being in Space Paranoids. (I don't know why Artemicion did not have her own Data appearance, while the Moogle in Timeless River had his own Retro Form. More confusing is that the Moogle in Halloween Town did not have it's own Halloween/Christmas form like Sora and his friends did there).
Also, in the second trip to the Pride Lands, you can't visit the Moogle there at all! When you reach the Oaises, you are warped back to Pride Rock after Simba rejoins the party. (I would go kill Heartless with Lucky Lucky equiped, until I have at least 50 of each, then once I have defeated Groundshaker, I would give all of the loot to Artemicion in Space Paranoids!)
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Original Character?
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Organization 13 - I'd rather we just skip the formalities. TALK - How I love a game!
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I know that Moogles are Final Fantasy characters but is there any way the Organization XIII Moogle could be called an original character?
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Not really, they're still the same species, the only difference is this one's wearing clothes.
ewwwww naked moogles O_o Lying Memories 02:23, August 13, 2010 (UTC)
Issues with article
- "Appearances" section should be reworked into "Story"
- Needs to be in-universe (No "In Kingdom Hearts II", etc.)
- "Furthermore, a Moogle falls on Donald Duck after completing Neverland." -- the Furthermore sounds ridiculous.
- "An unnamed Moogle" -- Moogles, as a general rule, are unnamed. "Unnamed" should not be used as a descriptor, since it doesn't specify anything. Only the named ones should be called out.
- "When Sora speaks to the Moogle in the First District in Traverse Town, it is revealed that Pinocchio enjoys ruffling the Moogles' pom-poms." -- change to "According to the Moogle in the First District[link], Pinocchio etc."
- "—The Organization Moogle, quoting Xemnas when asked what its name is." -- change to, "The Moogle, channeling Xemnas."
- "In Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days, a Moogle appears in various locations throughout the worlds, always donning a Black Cloak." -- this is incorrect. It appears only at the Grey Room and the Station Plaza.
- Each section should include a divved table, based on SorcererNobody's draft (as used on Avatar Menu) that details all the things the Moogle sells, synthesizes, or redeems. SN's draft has this done for Days already, I believe.
- "In order to unlock The King and Sora for playability the Multiplayer Mode, they must be purchased from the Moogle." -- would be unnecessary.
- The section should have a quick summary of the types of items that can be obtained from each method, if that is feasible. Something like what is done with Treasure Chest.
- "While the Moogle appears to hold some relationship to Organization XIII, as exemplified by its black coat, it is unknown if it is affiliated with them. For example, the Moogle flees the Organization with Roxas, saying that he would miss all the munny he spends at his shop, seemingly more interested in simply collecting munny rather than serving Organization XIII." -- WRONG.
- It clearly has a relationship, it is set up in their lounge.
- This should be worded to focus more on that it does not serve Xemnas, and instead followed its best Org. customer, Roxas, due to its love of munny.
- "In Kingdom Hearts II, the Moogles use holograms to run their synthesis shops, except for Mog in Radiant Garden and Elmina in Twilight Town. According to Jiminy's Journal, it is because they hate getting their pom-poms ruffled." -- I believe Moogles have hologram shops in BbS, too, indicating that this is the natural way. This should be in the lead, with a direct citation to the Journal. Something like, "Moogles usually operate their shops on other worlds through hologram, as they dislike customers ruffling their Pom-poms."
- "The Moogles also appear outside of synthesis shops as well. While on Destiny Islands, Selphie's purse has a Moogle clip attached to it. In addition, there is a special Gummi ship modeled after a Moogle." -- should be in other appearances, or something similar.
- "Appearance" needs to be "Design", and should be combined with "Origin"
- Party navbox should be removed.
- World-based categories should be removed, since Moogles appear on pretty much all worlds.
- We need a rip of the Moogle Gummi Ship
- Dissidia section is missing mention of the Mognet, and we should see if the Mognet has references to the KHverse.
"We're werewolves, not swearwolves." (KrytenKoro) 01:03, 30 May 2011 (EDT)